P53 – Swinger Diversity and Awesome Listeners

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Hi there, my name is C. I'm Dee, and you're listening to Swinging Down Under. Our journey is a couple through the swinging lifestyle. Are you into open relationships? Or exploring new things in life? This is our podcast. Experiences, both good and bad, reviews and events, and more here at Swinging Down Under. Come on. Join us. This is C. And this is D. Oh my God, you're so annoying. I'm trying to be annoying. This is Swinging Down Under. Howdy folks. Hey guys. Look, I just took off my thong. Did you? Yeah. Just one leg or both legs?

Which is Australian for flip-flop or jandal, as the Kiwis would say. That's true. Yes. I'm really excited actually about this podcast. I think it's going to be really funny and great. Yeah, but you say that at the beginning of every podcast and then at the end you always say to me, oh,. Should we post this one? I don't think it's very good. That's not what I say. I'm going to say that's exactly what you say. Well, you know, hey, I'll tell you what.

You go back through and research and tell me the exact times when I've said that in the last 52 episodes and then from there, then I'll believe you and you'll have evidentiary support. Okay. Good. Glad we got that covered. Hey, so, everybody, check out the latest We Got A Thing newsletter because Dee has written a little story in there. A little story? A decent-sized story. Yeah. I think you could consider it a short story even. Short, perverse story. Okay. It's a short story. You know, it's nearly 2,000 words. I think you could consider it a short story even. Short, perverse story. Okay.

It's a short story. You know, it's nearly 2,000 words. I think that makes it a short story. Does it? I don't know. What's the definition? I don't know. It's definitely not a long story. But you wrote a sexy story about a dream you had. Yeah, I did. We've had a few people say, like, that was hot. Yeah. Well, you know, it was pretty good for me. It wasn't great for you. I woke up sticky and it was weird. No, you didn't. My back was all sticky. Yeah, no, that didn't happen. No, it didn't really. I mean, that would be nice. When was the last time you had a wet dream?

I was about to say that, about probably five years, I think. It's five years ago or you were five? Five years ago. Five years ago. I was five five I had a wet dream. I don't fucking know. No shit you don't know who the fuck has a wet dream at five a wet dream for starters requires wet um so at five you are not producing said wet. I don't have a cock I'm sorry. Yeah okay so you know when was your when was your first orgasm while sleeping? You know what, I'll tell you what, I had one recently, but I woke up, like, just as I started to orgasm, and I woke up just then. And it went away.

I was so mad. I was so furious. And when was that? You didn't tell me that. Yeah, I don't call you every time this happens, babe. How often does this happen? I don't know, maybe like once every two months, I guess. Fuck off, really? Yeah. Lucky bitch. Yeah. Here we go. I don't call you every time this happens, babe. How often does this happen? I don't know. Maybe like once every two months, I guess. Fuck off, really? Yeah. Lucky bitch. Yeah. Sorry, lucky biatch, because bitch is mean. That's so mean. Yeah, biatch. It's trending. It makes it trendy and less mean. I like the heads up. Yeah.

So, once every two months. I reckon. So, what is generally fulfilling these dreamy, passionate... No, I don't know what it is. Actually, I want to do some research on this, because I want to know, like, clearly there's Thank you. I reckon. So, what is generally fulfilling these dreamy, passionate... No, no, I don't know what it is. Actually, I want to do some research on this because I want to know, like, clearly there's some, like, leg movements rubbing happening, something... It doesn't have to be anything at all. Well, that's...

Because it's very hard to rub a penis, and we still have wet dreams. Just FYI. Again, I don't have a cock, so I can't... Well, I have a penis. A cock is a male chicken. Oh, my God. So, it's very, I mean, it's not like I'm rubbing myself out when it happens. It's all my mental stimulation, which is really interesting. you know which is really interesting i know it's i was about to say that no it is because i because it's i said it first no but it's mental stimulation i was gonna say it's a good segue because well yeah i mean introduce the point of this podcast and make the segue do it.

So we have had, we threw out a request to some of our sexy friends who are coming along with us to Desire in November. And the request was for them to give us a couple of minutes of conversation about them, so an audio recording so we could introduce them on our podcast and also have a discussion about how they met and that sort of thing. But additionally, the main reason that C put this forward and, you know, she's blindingly intelligent for everyone out there. It was such a good idea. Which is what I'm saying about mental stimulation, right? You're so mentally stimulating.

People are probably orgasming right now as they're listening to the podcast. Are they? Yeah, I think somebody just did. Are they doing that with their cocks? I know what's going on here. What do you mean? Whatever do you mean? Yeah, somebody said they like you saying a particular word. Oh, do you mean the word cock? I think it was cock. Oh, okay. So, yeah. Somebody said they like pussy from me as well. I think it's the pussy. I think there were some jokes about when you said vagina at one point.

But the reason we actually wanted to do this initially was because, you we talk about diversity in the lifestyle and we talk about everybody coming from different backgrounds how it's a cross-section of of everyday everyday life and and everything so regardless of who you are where you live what age you are what nationality what race whatever people are all over the place exactly and and by doing our podcast a lot of lot of the time, we hear from a lot of people around the world and maybe you all out there listening don't have that as much as what we do.

We get emails from people all over the world with different insight into the lifestyle or having a different part of their journey that they want to discuss and that's everything from poly know, whatever, kink, BDSM. It's a really large grouping of people. And so we wanted to share the fact that not everybody is the same here. Well, and also the evolution of the relationship and also the evolution of the relationship with the lifestyle between the couple and the lifestyle. Oh, I love some of the audio we got.

They may start out in BDSM or they may start out in kink or they may start out as people who are just interested and dipping their toes into... Or they might remain that way. Yeah, I know. They just want to meet with sexy people and have some really good conversation and then go home and spend some time with each other. Yeah, absolutely. So it was blindingly brilliant by C that she managed to put this forward and we were graced with a few people to give us some information back.

So what we're going to do is we're going to play you the audio from these friends of ours who've put forward and then we're going to try and digest it a little bit from our side and also give some uh just commentary some commentary and possibly some insight into our um into our relationship and perhaps if we've touched on any of the things they've touched on on the way through and i think also uh just before we get into that you know we we just mentioned what a great idea this was from us but what i want to now pause and say yeah from me is actually um thank you thank you very much to everyone who has uh you know helped by sharing some of their stories and and thank you to everyone who continues to email us and and connect with us on on twitter or sdc or whatever the case is because honestly it's i i really really love getting and receiving emails and and replying back it's just it really makes my day so uh yeah she does it's actually weird oh i'm a total weirdo um so let's have a listen to this and then we'll catch you soon hi i'm d and i'm d and we're break for fun 2017 on cassidy.com and we've been in the lifestyle now for just about a year but not really what do you mean not really well we took a little break for a couple months that's true well i mean actually we've been talking about being in the lifestyle for more than a year we've been talking about being in the lifestyle for like what a long time like 20 years maybe 25 yeah well we've been married for 25 years in may together probably 27 years and we've been talking about swinging it's been part of our fantasy life but we've got kids we got two kids so they've been kind of like wet blankets and they've you know we're like we can't do it but now we're thinking why did we wait so long because Because we're got kids.

We've got two kids, so they've been kind of like wet blankets, and they've, you know, we're like, we can't do it. But now we're thinking, why did we wait so long? Because we're meeting these people, all these fantastic couples, and they have kids. And they're doing it. Yeah, they find a way. But, you know, at any rate, we just started, and the fantasy has become a reality. And we were always kind of worried about what's it going to be like if we have other people involved in the mix. And it turns out that it's actually really been a good thing. It's not weird.

We thought it was going to be weird. No, I thought having other people, like the fantasy, you don't have to deal with a person there, but dealing with people and feelings and, I don't know, just everything that comes with that, it would actually make the experience less than or even uncomfortable. Well, have you found it to be uncomfortable at all? No, not at all.

That's the amazing revelation that we've had in our first year in the lifestyle i guess some sometimes it could be but how do you what do you mean i mean we haven't had like all stellar experiences but they've all been it's true well i would categorize it as we've had great experiences and then we've had some learning experiences. That's true. But all in all, though, I think it's been really good for our relationship.

And I just, like I said, the one thing that has been extraordinarily helpful in helping us understand that we fit into this whole community is that there are all these podcasts that have been extremely insightful, extremely helpful. I think we've got to end this, babe. Yeah, I guess we really shouldn't drone on. Hold on. We should say thanks for listening, C&D. Thanks for listening, C&D. Later! Okay, so first let me say, I love the husky tone. Oh, I know. Right? God, it's so funny. So many people constantly say, I love your Australian accents. You guys are so sexy. I mean... Constantly?

I mean, come on. Don't exaggerate here. I'm making myself feel better, okay? My God, roll with it. Sorry, you're the funny one. I'm just, you know. Exactly, because you just laughed. Yeah, I did. Ha. See that world? You've changed me. You're a broken man. I'm broken. I'm broken.

I now have to agree that C's the funny one because, frankly, every time I receive an email from anyone, it says, first thing, C is you know what's happening here what you know like on the dollop how everyone's constantly calling him gary yeah and now when he does a show they chant gary yeah that's what's happening that's what's happening yeah except i'm not gary no so um we just listened to bnd yeah the first well the first thing i've got to say the second thing now, because the first thing was the other thing I said. The second thing is at the end they mention insightful podcasts.

So who else have you all been listening to? Because I'm not happy that because they're listening to insightful podcasts that can't possibly be ours. They're cheating on us?

Is that what you're trying pod cheating they're peating oh my god i feel so used i know i feel like a pod slut you know what i loved about their um their couple of minutes that they shared with us and this is a theme actually through a couple of them i love the end i love the end where b is like oh honey they don't want to know any more about that like we should end this that is a theme throughout all of them I know I swear but that's because you gave people a Thank you. I love the end where Bea is like, oh, honey, they don't want to know any more about that. Like, we should end this.

That is a theme throughout all of them. I know. I swear. But that's because you gave people a one-minute window. No, I said two. I said two. Pretty sure you said one. Okay. But can I say the reason behind that was because we're trying to keep people to not – because our problem is with all of our podcasts, we drone on. We're babbling now. We're babbling. We take side notes. That's what we do. Anyway, 20 years. Well, 25... Yeah, but 20 years of discussing. That is a lot of foreplay. 20 years of... Right? Imagine the first unload, the first orgasm with the first couple. It would have been huge.

Well, no, it's such a big step. I know. And that's, you know, I think it's a big step regardless, but 20 years, I mean, that's a big step. It is, yeah. And good for you guys for having the courage and the communication to actually be able to talk about joining the lifestyle.

And when you mention one year in the lifestyle slash breaks, you know, I don't want to yeah cause an argument here there's some breaks in there yeah but it's it's almost i mean that reflects our start as well oh absolutely we had some breaks as well because you kind of you go a bit full-on i think at the beginning and frankly i've had some breaks along the way where i've just said i'm i'm we're out for a while i'm done for now yeah let's just stop not not stop communicating with our because we've got some good friends we can we continue communicating with them but the good thing about good friends in the lifestyle is you say to them hey guys we're not we're not we're having a break from from the pants off side and our good friends every one of them have all said the same thing that's fine we're happy to come around and have a barbecue and talk and, you know, enjoy sexy conversation.

It doesn't have to lead to sex. That's true. You know what else I loved about these guys? What? Their humor. I loved the fact that they're like, you know, we had some kids and they were wet blankets. I love that.

I mean, you know, just you've got to keep it humorous and keep it real and and but at the same side you guys also said you know you feel you know you're a bit scared you didn't know where people were going to be weird um the fantasy versus reality thing is a big deal because you know when you start having sexual fantasies versus reality you can't alter the people that are in the room with you in reality in your head when you're fantasizing about it they're your puppets a little bit can you can you not in some place i mean no i think i think um the the majority of longer term play partners that we've had or play couples that we've had you get to get you get to gain the ability to say no i don't like this let's let's do something else right um so i think and frankly can i say i think with possibly the fact that we play with single gents And I'll see you next time.

this let's let's do something else right um so i think and frankly can i say i think with possibly the fact that we play with single gents if you had a fantasy in mind the idea of you being able to say no no no do this now now do this now do this or even to a point certainly i think peppy would have been open to you writing a letter or something like that of what your fantasy looked like and then have him actuate your fantasy. Yeah, you're right. Possibly a lot there. But I get it. If you're playing with people for the first time, you know, you're really not sure what's going to happen.

Of course. Yeah, I really enjoyed the fact that they also said, you know, that they realise now about the community and about the fact that there's nothing really too scary. And they've, I mean, regrettably so, they feel like they've had some missed opportunities. Yeah. But, you know, hey, that's life. But it sounds like they've had some journeys. Absolutely. They said not so stellar and... Well, that's, I mean, that's part of life, isn't it? You don't know the ups unless you've witnessed some of the downs. No, I, yeah, absolutely.

But thank you very much for your, for your lovely chat with us. Yeah. We look forward to chatting some more in Desire. Absolutely. And joking about your wet blankets. Yes. And also just a quick shout out to Peppy. We miss you, dude. Always, yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's have a listen to the next one. Hello, this is Jay. And this is S. We've been married for about 17 years. We're from the Midwest United States. We've been in the lifestyle for about half a year now.

So I listen to a lot of podcasts, and one day while listening to a vanilla podcast, I heard an advertisement for a lifestyle podcast. This intrigued me, so I discovered a few more, and it ended up sharing what I found with S. When he first told me about them, I said it was really weird, but what I didn't tell him was that I started listening to them during my morning commute. A few days later, I actually brought it up to him and said that I had binged lists in several episodes and found myself really turned on by them. And you can imagine my surprise.

So it wasn't too long after that that we created a profile on our Lifestyle website and began to check things out. We eventually found ourselves attending our first event, which was a Lifestyle meetgreet. We were very nervous before we walked in that night to the venue. We sat in our car for a few minutes, watching people enter the bar where the meet-and-greet was being held. Eventually, we high-fived and walked in. And to our pleasant surprise, these lifestyle people were pretty cool. One of the most rewarding surprises has actually been the people that we've met.

We found that they've got similar interests and backgrounds and crazy senses of humor like us. One thing that has stood out to me has been the women in the lifestyle. They've all been so uplifting and encouraging and helpful with each other. That's something that you don't typically see in the vanilla world. And while we're still kind of new at this, we've had a blast thus far. And we are looking forward to a lot more exciting adventures in the future. I mean, where do we even start?

J and S, I mean, you guys, seriously, some of the stuff you covered here have been some podcasts that we've done in the past. And do you know what's weird? When we're sitting here listening to the recordings and we're nodding our head and like pointing and like, yes, I get it. And actually, you know, these guys too, we've kicked message with them. So genuine and total nerds. Super nerds. We love it. And just like us, high five you guys. Yeah, we're totally... Where do you want to start with these guys? I don't even know.

Like so many things i'm gonna start with one thing that i really bring it dislike about um the vanilla world and i use the term vanilla fairly loosely because you see this in a lot of aspects of life and and we actually had a discussion with this just recently well i had a very honest and frank discussion with you and and mrs belay recently around this that um that women outside of the lifestyle are so hurtful to each other like and and can really do their best to make the other ladies feel bad about themselves and i find it even sitting in the room sometimes when i hear it i find it horrific it's it's i don't and i don't understand okay i have a theory on it if you want to know i'd love i have a theory so so and look people out there listening i get that this is a broad brush.

I get that there's going to be differing opinions. Of course, yeah. And, you know, everything else that goes along with this. And if you're listening to our podcast, you know that we know really not a lot. We just make shit up on the fly. So, what my general thoughts on this, and this comes, I guess it comes from a little bit of personal experience as well, but when you join the lifestyle, when I joined the lifestyle, I became more confident in myself. Now, when I became more confident in myself, I became less judgmental to other women and more accepting and praising of other women. And why?

Because I didn't feel bad about myself anymore. And so when women often, you know, and I'm sitting with my girlfriends and maybe- Sorry, just to interrupt, my head literally just exploded. Can you clean it up? We just cleaned the house. Like, come on, we've got a date. We've got a date tomorrow. We've got a date tomorrow. I'll clean up my great motherland. Can I have brains all over the floor? They're not zombies. Maybe, maybe.

But yeah, so when, you know, when my girlfriends and I maybe used to sit around and an attractive woman would walk into the bar and they'd be like oh look at that um slut such a short skirt i'll look at her she's flirting with everybody that was coming from a place of self insecurity and then when you join the lifestyle you become more confident you become more self-aware and you decide you know what i am valuable and and therefore you're no longer threatened by other women what your shape size or anything is um you're still i mean again we've i've been with since being in the lifestyle such a variety with such a variety of ladies and and some of them are bigger some of them are smaller some of them are tiny some of them are very tall you know they and all of them have have been excruciatingly mentally and sexually exciting to me and it had nothing to do in a lot of cases with their body shape it had a lot more to do with the fact that they were um comfortable and to use a phrase that seems to be used a little too often they're comfortable in their skin yeah and i think that was essa's point you know when when she talks about the fact that the women in the lifestyle were supportive and and she really you know enjoyed and embraced that i think that's why well i mean there's also you've seen um swingers jogging groups and things like that right where people are getting fit together and in like it.

It might have been. I didn't want to say that because I wasn't sure, but, you know. Damn you. Damn you. We want to swing as a running group in Singapore. We just want to swing as a shaggy group. Start with that. Yeah. We should start importing people. Yeah. That does not sound right. No, it sounds very illegal. Okay. Very illegal.

And you know what else is coming out in this one for me i mean you had your start the fact that they said that they realized how amazing lifestyle people are and how they're so similar and so cool that is a another common thread when people start to join this community they realize that actually everyone is kind of cool well i think one of the biggest things in that kind of cool broad brush phrase is the fact that people are not generally terribly outwardly judgmental in anything okay so for example um you know somebody's into having a thousand needles stuck through their testicles not my thing i mean that literally freaks me the fuck out but are the testicles just below the cock so i um for me that it's it's kind of it's kind of scary right but if somebody says oh yeah i'm i'm into this you don't judge them i don't judge judge them.

I may come home and have a conversation with you about it. Or questions to them. Or questions to them, yeah. But the conversation, even with you, would never be from a point of judgment. It'd be more of a point of, well, these are my concerns with it, and these are the reasons that I don't think I'd ever want to do it.

And I think the people in the lifestyle, certainly the ones we've met, and I we continue continue to meet the same style of people they hear this sort of thing and they might say yeah no not for me not sorry vice versa that other person might go yeah i also don't don't necessarily want to participate in your lifestyle but i respect you yeah i don't i respect i respect the difference yeah and respect of the difference of opinion is, because opinions are like clitorises. Every cunt's got one. Wow. That's out there now. What? It's true, though. Oh, my God. You're just on a roll.

Well, that's, sorry, that was a very Australian saying, so, you know. I don't know whether people are going to like that. Well, look, it wouldn't be the first hate mail I've received. That's true. Add it to the pile. It's not a big pile. That makes me sound horrible. We've got a third bedroom just for your hate mail. Oh, yeah, okay, fine. I thought that was where Panda, sorry, Paddington B. Bear lived. No, he does not live in there. I want to talk about two other things because I'm really excited about this, but I think it's your turn to maybe bring up something you liked about it.

Well, can I just go? No, go nuts. Okay, great. Not like there's any plan to our podcast. So, 17 years together, so another long-term couple, half a year in the lifestyle, joining us in November for their lifestyle vacation. I mean, awesome. Should I say welcome fresh meat? No? No, but you know what I love? It's not appropriate. I love two things about this recording. I'm kidding, guys. The fact that they were listening to Vanilla Podcast, heard an ad about Lifestyle Podcast. I mean, how, what, when, why, for starters.

And the second, the fact that S was then, well, you know, then I started to kind of like listening on the side, got real horny, came back home, told Jay about it. I mean, hilarious. Beginning of a very open discussion about a relationship topic. And super fun. I mean, they're talking about high-fiving each other before they go into a meet and greet. And might I add, while we were listening to this, I said the high-five came after four or five drinks. That's my guess. They were in the car before they went in. Yeah. Because nobody's ever been known to drink in a car.

Average swingers are looking at you. Average swingers, yeah. Nobody's ever drunk an entire bottle. You've got to be humorous. I mean, you've got to have some humor about you along with everything else. Yeah, and the majority of people we've met are batshit crazy in their own way, which is a good form of batshit. Welcome to the club. Yeah, right. What do you got? Every relationship is as different as the people that are in it. Absolutely. Anything else before we go on to it? Just thank you, of course. Thank you to you both. And look, we're probably going to nerd out at Desire.

I'm not going to lie. You guys love arcade machines. We love them. Oh, my shit, God. Oh, my God. It's so not possible. What if we could get an arcade machine to Desire's like we can't do that can we can we oh fuck why are you looking at me like i'm gonna organize i don't know of the of the couple i'm gonna look into that so uh just an fyi as well um if the arcade machine does arrive at desire and it it happens to be Ms. Pac-Man. Step back, because I'm the master champion of that show. No, actually, I think it's probably more like that you will literally be dripping at the Pac-Man.

Oh, and somebody will be like, hey, can I, like when you're a kid and some other kid wants to play a game, and they're like, can I have a go? And you're like, no. That'll be me. Do you have a quarter? You don't exist to me. Go away. Do you have a quarter? I'm even Americanizing that. You see that? Straight to quarters. Because we used to use 20 senses. Yes. Yep. Up to a dollar sometimes for the really good games. How rich were you? What was it? Double Dragon. Was that a dollar? It was a dollar. Per life? No, per life. You get three lives in every game. Seriously? That's insane.

That's expensive. Yeah, well, you know, my area was flush. Apparently so. No, they weren't at all. Got that bling bling. So, thank you again.

Yeah, thank you you on to the next one hey guys i'm a and i'm em we're from florida we've been in lifestyle about two years together six we got interested in the lifestyle by watching the playboy channel a show called swing which i'm sure many of you have heard about it just kind of piqued our interest and we really got turned on and ended up deciding to do our first event at a nude resort takeover um and ended up meeting an awesome couple and having a soft swap in the hot tub and then one of our funny stories which i'll let em tell you about one night we ended up going to a local lifestyle club around here and I ran into my boss's boss's boss at the bar and this is not a guy that I'm a big fan of and I enjoyed spending my entire night making things as awkward as I could for him because he was absolutely shocked that somebody recognized him.

So a little poetic justice for him. He's not as cool as he thinks he is. Anyway, that's our story. Hope you guys enjoyed it. Okay, so we love the story. It is fucking awesome. I really love that story. That is, I mean, look, I'm a believer of karma. Yeah, well, you've got to say karma. Karma. You've got to throw an R in there because karma is the beginning of the karma sutra, which is actually sex. I only learnt this because I worked for an Indian company and I said karma and they all looked at me funny. A&M, you guys got that down in a minute. You killed the minute.

And clearly, yes, maybe I was a bit harsh on my one or two minutes. But you guys fucking nailed it. Well done. Well done. And you managed to get some really interesting information in here. Together for six years, swinging for two. Yes. So a younger relationship, something like us when we started. Absolutely. And you know what? Also like us. Playboy Swing. Swing TV. Yeah. We both got into it the same way around, which is interesting because it was, I mean. I want to know who, I want to know who, what, yes. How they stumbled. Yes. I mean, yeah, how this happened again.

We should talk about that. Yeah, something from, we'll get something more at Desire to find out how they came across it because unless you have Playboy TV. Which we don't down in Australia generally. No, but we're, I mean, you know. We also don't have Netflix. Don't judge us. We have that. We just don't have it. So when people Netflix and chill, we just chill. We just chill, yeah. Netflix is available, we should say, in Australia. We don't want to make it – Australia sounds like a backwater if there's no Netflix in Australia. Bing. No, that's – I know. Yeah.

But, yeah, that's really interesting because the reason we started watching Playboy Swing was when we were discussing fantasies, my fantasies, and started saying, well, what do I like? I don't know. And some episodes were super hot. Some were super horrendous. Thank you.

swing was when we were discussing fantasies my fantasies and started saying well what do i like i don't know and some episodes were super hot some were super horrendous and not horrendous but some of them were like okay not uh oh actually no the fighting ones if their couple had a bit of a fight yeah but then some of them you'd walk away i remember one time there was um a couple of people giving some oral to a lady on the edge of the pool between the spa and the pool. Do you remember that? I can't. You probably don't. It's not the only time that's happened. Well, whatever.

But it was super hot. Was that, I think it was, was that Nikki? No, no. It was earlier on before they joined, but it was super hot and I thought, and what we used to do is watch it and then after I'd say, you know what? I liked that, I liked that. That was really not my flavor. And then Dee and I would have this discussion on, okay, cool. What did you find attractive? What did you find sexy? What makes it possible?

it and then after I'd say, you know what, I liked that, I liked that, that was really not my flavour and then Dee and I would have this discussion on, okay, cool, what did you find attractive, what did you find sexy, what made you, what turned you on? Was this after you made the porn nest? That was the first night, I made the, explain the porn nest. So, please explain the fact that this is the first time we'd have done anything like this. So, the very first time we sat down to watch Playboy Swing, I had downloaded them again because we didn't have availability of Playboy TV.

So please excuse my pirating here. So to any law enforcement that's listening, we've since paid for all episodes as well. So we're totally kosher on this. But I said to C, how about we sit down and watch this show? And she had a rough idea but had never seen any of it, but I watched a little of it just to make sure that after it was downloaded, and people are going to judge me on this, I needed to make sure that it actually worked, right? Because one of the problems with this sort of thing is it may not work.

So I had watched a little bit of it, said well what's it like and i told her that it's got sex and you know active live sex in it and there's some fairly uh interesting scenes and she decided to make a little porn nest you remember getting takeaway and stuff too yeah we got takeaway and then c put out uh like a doona a duvet on the... A blanket on the floor. A blanket on the floor, which she then put like pillows around it and I was away somewhere. I don't know where I was. You were out buying the takeout. Oh, that's right. Takeaway. And then I came... Takeout? You were just...

I was trying to convert it. You've graduated. I was trying to convert it. So, yeah, so I came back and here's this porn nest waiting for me. I'm like a bowerbird. Yeah, I'm not sure that – had we ever watched porn together? That's what I'm saying. This is my first – oh, wait, no, we had. We had watched porn together numerous times before then. Yeah. In fact, we'd followed a porn together. Like what they were doing, we were doing. Yeah. I think maybe, why was this one so different? Maybe more people involved. I don't know. We hadn't done anything like that for a while.

Yeah, it had been a while since we'd done it. Whatever. I mean, my porn nest was the bum diggity. It was pretty extremely awesome. And we sat there eating Thai food, watching Playboy Swing in my porn nest. In your porn nest, yeah. But it was awesome because the porn nest eventually got a little broken up. And you know what? I do remember, too, that the first couple of episodes, or maybe the first one or something, I wasn't as much of a fan. And then we had Dr. Jess and then after Michael and Holly joined and that was when I started thinking actually to sink it. You started to sink into it.

Yeah. I started to feel like actually these now make sense to me. You know, Dr. Jess's input makes sense to me and what she was saying and everything and her knowledge and the interviews at the end of the show started to really formulate my ideas and my journey. Well, I mean, I think it opened up the fact that just because you're in an open relationship, it doesn't mean you're a sex fiend pervert.

I think that sort of solidified for you if I'm calling it from the sidelines, which is always an easy place to call it the so stepping away from that now and saying yeah yeah double finger to to the boss to the boss i love that i love the fact that you embrace that rather than like awesome freaking out and turning away you just thought you know what i'm i'm gonna i'm here he he's here oh my god whatever we're gonna have some drinks and let's see if we can make him feel awkward. And hit on his wife. Oh, yeah. Totally hit on his wife. So mean. You're mean. Thank you very much, guys.

It was awesome. Loved it. Cheers. I'm Bob. And I'm Jennifer. We're from Missouri. We've been married 18 years and we've been in the lifestyle for about a year and a half. How did we get in the lifestyle? Way back at the beginning of our marriage we just fantasized and it was all just talk about having someone join us in the bedroom just to be a third party and that's really as far as it went for many years just talking. And then I got the bright idea to actually try to make it happen and we did a lot of research and found a local meet and greet.

And we drove two hours from home because we were afraid of anyone around us knowing about it. And we went to the meet and greet. And it's been a fun ride ever since. What's your favorite lifestyle memory um i would say it's not it's more of a general idea that we were able to overcome a disagreement about something.

It was actually during a big party event and we withdrew ourselves from the public eye and went back to our hotel room and we were upset and and emotions were high and we were able to talk with each other about how each of us felt and and we figured we found some miscommunications that had happened and some misunderstandings that had happened and we were able to get back into the mood to return to the party and it turned out to be one of the best nights that we have had in the lifestyle and I I truly feel that it is because that one or two hours of time that we have had in the lifestyle, and I truly feel that it is because that one or two hours of time that we spent communicating with each other in depth that we felt stronger and able to have a good night.

I agree. Our communication is so much better than it was two years ago before we got in the lifestyle. Every night that we're doing something in the lifestyle, we're constantly checking in and navigating problems and working as a team. It's been wonderful. And the sex is better, too. That's a plus. better sex is definitely a plus definitely definitely yeah we're good for those guys well i mean what do you mean those guys you don't think our sex has gotten better awkward are you being now is this a biatch moment? No, it's trying to be funny. Tell me what you thought about that. It didn't work.

So, see everybody? Not the funny one. So, what did I think about that? So, B and J. I'm going to call them B and J because I like BJ. I know, right? All right. It just works. It totes works. um so bj uh it was – I mean, some of the interesting things in there that I found was – and I think a lot of issues in relationships, vanilla or chocolate relationships, are around miscommunication or misunderstanding, right?

So the ability to be able to pull yourself away from the situation that put you in that but also pull yourself away from some of the emotional investment in that is is something that i think the lifestyle has helped us with as well you know the ability to just say this is not something we want to do in public right we're not happy with how things are going so let's move away from this and also i'm not happy with how this is how something is happening so i'm going to communicate that to you even though i know that it may cause a fight that's something that a lot of relationships are not happy to deal with.

Yeah, I think the fact that Bea and Jay had the courage to recognize the fact that some things were not going to plan, not just recognize but then remove themselves, have a discussion, come to some form of an understanding, realign and then go back in to have a great night i mean that right there is the stuff that people and we can all try to aspire to because i mean honestly relationships are made of the ability to do that because sometimes if you have a bit of a hard conversation you know maybe you can feel a bit raw for a while and maybe you're not gonna you know but these guys they went away they addressed the issue they they rallied they went back in and they were like you know what that we've figured it out we're gonna go back in we're gonna have a great time provided that i mean the glorious thing about saying sometimes the things that are going to draw out a fight is that you put them to bed and then you get on yeah you know you get on with life and you get on with what's happening around you which in this particular case led to an awesome night i mean you you couldn't have a better written play than what these guys have done i i mean i applaud you b and j i think it's a an amazing relationship that people have when they have the ability to do that i also understand that we don't always have the ability to do that you know yeah sometimes you remove yourself you walk away you do have a disagreement or some emotional words said and then you decide you know what we're done for the year we're done for the evening or we or we're taking a break for a little while no dramas with that absolutely but i think um well done for that for that for starters but uh and also again we've got another long-term couple here we've got got an 18 years together, one and a half years in lifestyle, talking about the possibility of adding someone to their bedroom very early on.

So this was a fantasy that they were kind of playing out.

And it took, what, 16 and a half years to start with that fantasy when they were, I'm assuming, maybe talking about it, adding it to some role play in the bedroom to then deciding to hey let's uh you know as as as uh b said like make it happen let's go to a meet and greet um 16 and a half years later after that that fantasy was kind of playing out so i think having also having that ability to have the conversation and in recognizing yourself that you know we've been role playing for a while now we think we're ready to take the next step and let's have a discussion about that so what is this our fourth this is a fourth couple that we've um listened to now yeah and the thing that i find interesting is that if you look at the dates of starting and versus the dates of lifestyle again it kind of all over the place right some people have been talking about this for a long time some people have only been together a short time and it came on very early um the different ways that people got involved in the lifestyle and we're only a couple four you know there's more to go so you know i suppose for anyone out there who's stumbled across our podcast or stumbled across any of the lifestyle podcasts and, you know, concerned that their way might be not the right way i think this is a perfect indication that there is no right way there is no right way whatever's right for you works for works for you um and if it doesn't work for you then stop doing it yeah find the right way for it to work for you i mean there's no psychoanalysis involved in that it's just whatever stings stop doing it you know even a lab rat only licks electrified water once i wonder how hard bob's cock was when they went to that meet and greet though what do you think just out of curiosity i'm i'm not sure I bet you he had had a really hard cock yeah pussy sorry should we listen to the fifth couple of course all right let's get on it hey c and d i'm al and i'm d and we're from atlanta georgia we've been together for well we've been married for how many years now?

23. 23. I think going close to 24, right? Almost 24. Yeah. How long have we been together? 28. I thought usually the women are supposed to know these things. How did we get into the lifestyle is one of the questions. So I guess that was about a year and a half ago, right? Our daughter was getting ready to go to college. And we were discussing what does our life look like after she leaves? Yeah. And we realized that we needed to transition from being mom and dad and parents to getting back to being not just husband and wife, but girlfriend and boyfriend.

And I guess the first step was to pick up things a little bit just in our own relationship. And it kind of ignited some things. And we started sharing some fantasies. And I think I had mentioned that it'd be fun to try out a particular club here in town. And just to go, air quotes, check it out. Right. And so, yeah, that was our first experience. Thankfully, you met some very nice people that night who, again, air quotes, check it out. Right. And so yeah, that was our first experience. Thankfully, you met some very nice people that night who, again, air quotes showed us around.

I was absolutely in shock. I could not I couldn't even fathom what was happening at the time. But it was a blast. Yeah, we had a great time. That was I mean, I guess that was our first time in but I think one of the things that we did was immediately realized that there's a whole community that we started to get to know. Right. That's true. And that's made this a lot more fulfilling and a lot more fun. That's true. I think that prior to meeting anyone, I didn't know what to think.

I didn't know what these people would like it just sounded all so sordid and they're really just normal nice people that's been the the best part of this entire experience we we came into it just to be kind of naughty but we found that we've developed some really great friendships you said it all okay so how would I even reply to that maybe you don't have to oh yeah that's it thanks so much for the great podcast you guys do and we look forward to seeing you guys face to face in desire in november absolutely see you then okay so we look forward to seeing you as well what is it with people and sexy voices good lord right i mean most of the people that sent these in were like oh i hate listening to myself i've got a hard cock yes no that was uh that was very sexy guys um yeah it was i mean it was just sexy you know what another one and a half year um in the lifestyle couple yeah absolutely i think um well i think part of the reason we started this podcast well the reason the sole reason we started this podcast realistically was because when we started looking around we couldn't find the yoda couple i mean we're not a yoda couple by any stretch of the imagination don't do what we do don't do what we do but um we hoped that we could pass on a little bit of information just something you know, some way for you not to trip over and make the same mistakes that we have.

And to hear you guys speak very sweetly about what, you know, our podcast and that sort of thing is, it's really humbling. And when we say don't do what we do, what we mean by that is not necessarily that we're doing the wrong thing, but everyone's journey is their own. Yeah, absolutely. And everyone, you know, we can only speak to our experiences and what we have found has worked or not worked. That doesn't necessarily translate to what's going to work or not work for you guys.

What I liked about these guys, so L&D, the fact that they said that their daughter is going away to college and not just that they have to transition from being a mom and a dad to a husband and wife but ignite the spark and also be boyfriend and girlfriend yeah absolutely that was really cool um i mean and we don't have kids but i but i get it i mean because even you know us uh us, we're coming up to almost nine years together now. And you do have to put in effort.

It's a constant, not concern, but it should be a constant diligence that you actually still continue to be each other's boyfriend and girlfriend. Yeah, to make the other person feel special and exciting and new and fresh and all those really great things. Look, I get it. 23 years or-ish married. I love that there was some debate about that. And I really enjoyed the inflection on the end of 23 years. Maybe. And you're right, the woman should know. Oh, that's going to get me hung out the dry. 28 years together because, yeah, I mean, you have to flirt with each other.

You've got to flirt with your partner and, you know, maybe when you're taking time to raise your children, to spend time worrying about mortgage payments, worrying about what school they're going to go to if they're happy, if they're doing well, you might focus your attention elsewhere.

and i get it and i think it's really great that you have realized the need to kind of get back to having a bit of fun and yeah and just like everyone who listens to us guys we we all listen to a whole lot of other podcasts as well oh yeah about lifestyle and non-lifestyle stuff but um i think i was listening to the jones's last cast and they were talking about how they now touch each other more and grab each other's with each other more and flirt with each other more and i think um that is something else that comes from this is that you know i suppose that realization that sex doesn't have to be dirty almost it can or sexiness doesn't have to be dirty or doesn't have to be the wrong type of slutty you know there's good slutty bad slutty well i don't even know that there's bad but you know what i mean like well and also um you know just because you're grab assing or whatever doesn't mean that your partner that you have to have sex oh of course so I think that's a key message as well.

You can flirt with your partner. You can have a good time. You can be sexy. It doesn't mean that, you know, oh, this has to relate to then going to the bedroom. It doesn't have to turn into this, well, I better go and do that because he or she has shown me some attention and, you know, they've flirted with me. That's definitely not the case.

Also, though, another comment about the fact that fact that you know they weren't too sure now they've joined the community and and really they said community they said one of the most fulfilling and fun things was actually some of the friendships that they've gained yeah and that's only in a year and a half yeah i mean can you imagine where they're going to be in three four or five years if they remain in the lifestyle or whatever yeah i mean our biggest problem now is keeping up with all of our friends we've got i mean we've got met some lovely people and we unfortunately we've met a lot of a lot of them in the u.s and and you know we've still got some in australia so we with time zone spread that we're looking at sometimes makes life a little bit more difficult thank god for skype oh absolutely otherwise our phone bill would be immense um but yeah we we love hanging out with all of the people we've met along the way um you know some more than others like all friendship groups you've got people who are tight friends and people who are less you know they're in a secondary area and then you've got people in a tertiary area or whatever that might go out to.

But, you know, we've certainly got some friends in there that we would hope to never see go away or leave our life. Oh, for sure. Yeah. So, no, that community thing is a – and I don't know whether you've noticed this, but I think every one of our guests so far has used that word, community. Yeah. And that's, again, the other thing that we were hoping to build by being involved in this podcasting thing was to help the community. And it does feel quite special. Like I said earlier, we have the opportunity to actually kind of meet and talk with so many different people from all walks of life.

And, you know, that's really special for us. Yeah, it is. Should we listen to the last one? We should. Okay.

opportunity um to actually kind of meet and and talk with so many different people from all walks of life and uh you know that's that's really special for us yeah it is should we listen to the last one we should all right hello hello c down under hey it's t and w w we're driving home from dinner and we wanted to record our story for you guys for your podcast down under of course w well we were both drinking so hopefully this will come out great for you guys and i wanted to give you a little bit of background of who we are and give you a little bit of insight of where we have come from in the lifestyle and where we're going to and we're going to okay so basically we are we're 47 years old w is just turned 47 i'm 46 yes really we're from we live in the northeast quadrant we're in pennsylvania in the united states and too much information no it's not and we've been in the lifestyle for just two years a year one year one year like i said one year and so what do we want to start uh we want to okay we've been together we've been together for 30 years yep um married for 22 how did we get in uh wait let's go back up let's back up we have a 21 and a 23 year old i don't think they give a yes they do and also we have a grandbaby a one-year-old grandbaby okay whippy nobody cares thank you see okay so how did we get in the lifestyle babe so how did we get in the lifestyle okay well about 10 years ago we had some fun times with good friends of ours who were a few years younger than us but few few you were 30 she was 20 no i was like 40 no honey it was more than seven years ago it was like 10 years ago no yeah we had a friend that said hey oh shit i just said my name hey w but you know my name hey w um we have a my wife really is attracted to your wife and she'd like to have sex with her and i was like okay great go ahead so long story short she tried to approach now i said your name who didn't take part but then later did and then we played with them essentially a couple times it was a lot of girl-on-girl action and we were with a couple but it was a lot of fun but kids got in the way work got in the way careers got in the way 10 years goes by nothing happened by the way w travels all the time so it was very difficult for us to even have our own relationship let alone a relationship with anyone else now you're referring to me as w i am you are w so anyway a year ago finally I was like we need to go away and he never wanted to go away because he travels often.

He hates going away. He wants to come home, which I totally get and understand. I get it.

So, T entices me by saying, how would you like to take an adult vacation to Temptations and I go you have my attention so we go to Temptations and they ask us if we are in the lifestyle when we check in are you guys lifestylers and I go what'd you say and she said are you guys in the lifestyle and i go of course we are what do you think we're doing what do you think we're doing although we had no idea i didn't know what she meant what the lifestyle i thought that meant free drinks and maybe an appetizer we were very intrigued by everything and started looking into what the lifestyle was.

And from there on, we basically came home. We did nothing that week. We met a couple couples. Zoom. Let's fast forward to what they want to hear. Okay. So basically, after Temptations, we were very intrigued by what was the lifestyle. So we went to some parties.

We went to some hotel takeovers we got involved we did a um sls site um and actually for a while we were very much to ourselves yeah taken back and and thought that we would not meet people that were like us didn't think anybody was weird for what they did just spent our time together yeah we went to these parties we flirted and then would go home together yeah which was great which is always awesome it was always awesome better than ever and then we we kind of got discouraged for a little bit and we're like we're not going to meet people like us that maybe this isn't for us maybe this whole lifestyle thing isn't what we thought it was fast forward to last week t was a unicorn for another couple so i mean you could see the gap that's happening within a year we've really truly come full circle we've met some amazing amazing people and i will tell you and i want to talk about see no let me just say real quick see the reason why we are doing this for you and why you asked us all to do this was to get different realms of people's views of the lifestyle and our view of the lifestyle in the beginning was very much oh I don't know about these people it's a little strange to me too we love everyone that we've been meeting we have met some amazing people we have some great friendships to the point I just told T tonight I think we're going a little lifestyle heavy and we're hooked and we love the people we meet.

We love the fact that we can hang out, drink, do nothing, play, not play, talk dirty, not talk dirty. It doesn't matter. And maybe it's just that the fact that possibility is there and it may or may not happen. I'm not sure, but who knows? But this last past month I was on the road for five weeks and she was like, I really like to meet so-and-so and so-and-so from a hotel takeover we met. And was like, I'd love you to go be their unicorn. And I could tell you C. And D, by the way. Yeah, I'm sorry. We don't want to discount D by any means.

This doesn't sound like me, and this doesn't sound like her. So, as much as you couldn't hear it coming from me, equally her ten times.

To be where at the place we're at now and then she went and was a unicorn and it was sexy they shared videos they included me on everything so i thought it was cool that that was like kind of a new level it was totally a new level hey i'm there but i'm not there we're sharing everything we do yep but that being said the initial video they shared everything with me who's doing what and it was hot so sexy i mean so fun i don't know how it was for them feeding it but for me watching it as a kind of a voyeur watching my wife kind of partake in this weird situation that wasn't weird i wasn't really i was skeptical wary of it and not 100 sure but i could tell you I did love it.

I don't know if I want it to happen again. I jerked off to it several times. Well, you're getting a little detailed here on this little podcast. But C&D, here it is for the final information. Hopefully that it will help you guys put out a great podcast is in the last year, our relationship has become totally tenfold over what we have ever imagined. And we've been together for 30 years since we're both 16 years old. And a year ago, the lifestyle today is not even probably a little bit of what I thought it was one year ago.

We have met so many amazing friends, amazing people, and we get so super charged and excited to see each other. As we said earlier, W travels all the time.

So it's very difficult difficult for us we do share a lot of video and a lot of pictures that we can stay connected with each other and that keeps it very interesting but this has the lifestyle has even brought us closer and we have a bond that we never have had before it is so cool to actually meet so many other people that have had the same connection with their spouse and we really just are so excited about sharing our story and hopefully that will connect with other people to bring them closer as um, we are so looking forward to meeting you guys at desire and, uh, we can't wait.

So thanks so much. And hopefully you can use some of this information, um, since we were drinking a little bit, um, from dinner this evening as we did not see each other for five weeks.

So we are ready to go home and have a good time together so thanks guys and we'll see you soon bye thank you for taking the time out of your evening yeah hadn't seen each other for five weeks and then they're out to dinner and recording a podcast section for us i mean that's talk about feeling special yeah absolutely i think that that's feeling spesh even can i just say too yeah bloody hilarious, bloody hilarious. Oh, my God. I loved the constant banter. They're so much like us where it's like someone says this and the other person has a bit of a semi-go at them. Like, no, that's not right.

Shut up. The other person doesn't want to hear that. Stop talking. I'm pissing myself laughing throughout this. Yeah. Well done, guys. Apparently, you have a very similar sense of humor to us. I liked the, you know, and I said to myself, blah, oh, shit, I said my name. I said to myself, W, da, oh, shit, I said your name. I love that. It's so much fun. It was fucking awesome.

And yes, we have kindly added it out or bleeped out your names yeah to um to keep you know those uh those guilty those guilty um more innocent five weeks of travel is tough i mean we've we've done some i've done some fairly brutal travel lately as well and again skype and messages and all these sorts of videos and photos But additionally, and I just looked at them again today, for me it opened up some potential fantasies. I mean, you've seen, I sent you two emails while I was away in terms of what my fantasy might be for when I'm traveling.

and i suppose something like um what you've just said do i know whether i'll enjoy it second time around i can't be sure do i know if i'll enjoy it first time around well i don't know that either but what i do know is that the idea of that is quite interesting to me and the reality may be different but i'm willing to willing to try it once. And that's what I liked about that. You know, W makes a point of saying that the tea went off and had some fun. And he says, you know, I jerked my cock off on it. But he didn't, you know, he said, like, I don't really know if I want it to happen again.

But it good and they shared the video and you know it was kind of cool and all the rest of it but i mean that's what it's about right it's about experiencing open yourself opening yourself and your relationship up to new experiences and then walking away and saying you know what yep yeah no wasn't really for us so um that's great and let's kind of you know on to the next the next yeah so i mean congratulations for starters and like like us i suppose we we've learned to push our boundaries a little and and i don't think not even just our sexual boundaries but also some of our relationship boundaries in terms of you know what defines a relationship our relationship to us you know understanding truly understanding what that means to us and what you know even for you we've had a discussion just recently about well romance what defined romance for you and what defines romance for me what defines horniness we had a conversation about that this morning whilst we were washing the dishes because because i made a statement that that a particular skype session, and we'll let them figure out who they are, made me quite horny.

And you said, well, I mean, I enjoyed it, but I'm not horny per se. And I then said, well, define horny. What do you call horny? and you said you almost described exactly what i call horny which is excited and interested and and uh you know potentially looking to the future to do interesting things um it doesn't so we we discovered even something new this morning yeah absolutely and it's because we're not i think again going back to one of the earlier people, that discussion around the topics that may sometimes be considered taboo in a traditional monogamous relationship, like horny.

In a monogamous relationship, the true answer is, what makes you horny will you do? That's the required answer almost. I can't think of the word horny without doing the, me, so horny, me, me, so horny. Me, so horny, me love you long time. That is just such a horribly racist song. It's a funny song.

They're not trying to be racist yeah yeah i know but neither's donald trump if you ever say his name on our podcast again like i'm gonna straight up murder you and then it'll be here's c at swinging down under yeah actually i can i say i think you may do better without me because you know there's a lot of people out there don't say that sort of stuff like a little bit of c but getting back to t and w yes i mean funny yeah yes Thank you. Because, you know, there's a lot of people out there that like a little bit of C. But getting back to T&W. Yes. I mean, funny. Yes. Super funny.

And I liked their humor towards each other and I liked their friendship. I mean, that's clear. I mean, they obviously have a great friendship and can kind of take the piss out of each other. And I liked that about them as a couple. And I think that kind of that humor and that ability to be apart for five weeks or when they're traveling and then kind of come together and have a good time but, you know, be friends. And can I say nice try at some Aussie-isms at the beginning there? I mean, epic failure. Oh, no, apparently it was British, apparently. That was British? What?

It's a bastardized version of American, British, Aussie, I'm going to say. Actually, I just think it's your Irish because whenever you do Irish, you end up at something just... W specifically said to me, I'm shit at accents, and I was like, hey, join the club, buddy. I'm so bad, especially my Rastafarian.

No, no, everything you do turns into rastafarian yeah it's all those years of listening to um if you if you disrespect bob marley right now there is no there is no talking about trump on this podcast and there is no disrespecting i'm just saying you blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl at the end of the microphone here who's really deep down inside is a Rastafarian wearing her... I'm a Rastamon. Wow, see? I mean, you can do Rastafarian pretty well. Do Irish now. What are they? I am a lucky charm. Okay. To be sure, to be sure.

So it takes a few more sentences for her to revert to Rastafarian for Irish, apparently. Yeah. Although you do sound like a little Irish dudes. Leprechauns. Leprechauns. Yeah, you sound very Leprechaun-ish. Esk. Esk. Leprechaun-esque. But thanks, T&W. We look forward to seeing you guys as well, of course. We look forward to seeing everybody, but... Oh, sorry. Also, the very detail-focused conversation in there in the beginning. Oh, that's funny. Oh, they don't want to know that. Oh, shut up. She loves that shit. We're this age. Oh, just tell them what area we live in. God.

Here's our social security number for Pete's sake. Well, I mean, if you want to send that. But if you want to send that on through. Yeah. And possibly bank account details. We've got a new bed we've got to buy, you know. Yeah. Well, we're possibly moving. Wait, do swingers' beds get worn out twice as much as normal people's beds? Well, we should ask. We've got a very good friend. We do have a friend who works in mattresses. Mattress design, actually, R&D. How can we ask that? He's not exactly... He's a vanilla friend.

Actually, our only vanilla friends that we have left, and we love them dearly. What should we just say? Hey, just out of curiosity, if you would have had four to six people on this bed at a ratio of X number, blah. I think I could ask that question. I'm happy to come out to them, but you're like freaking the fuck out. Yeah, I don't want to lose them as friends, to be honest. We never lose friends. That's the thing. You never lose friends. You only lose acquaintances. I mean, come on. That was some poetic shit. Poetic, babe. Slogan is, you've put a marketing spin on poetry. Yeah.

You just made it awkward for everybody. Oh, you're a hater right now. I'm not a hater. Haters got to hate. Don't make me sing her. I know, I know. Anyone who's listened to our podcast has listened to you sing her. That was Miley. This is Tay Tay. Oh, like, I can keep up. I don't know this shit. You don't even know all the trendy stuff. Trendy? They're now old. Miley and Tay-Tay are now old. Excuse me, Tay-Tay just released something like three days ago. I haven't heard of it, but it's, you know. Yeah, but they're like old school now.

This is what the middle-aged 22-year-olds are listening to now. The middle-aged 22-year-olds obviously joking but you know when you're not joking your math skills are just super shit when you're 16 when you're 16 a 22-year-old is middle-aged right you know i remember when i was like what was i think 14 and my uncle was 20 and i was like you are so old and he had a bike like a motorcycle so what's your number now What do you mean?

Your birth number I feel like 95 is like yeah you're old i don't think 95 is old either i don't i honestly don't i think age is uh something that you live not something that a number defines well exactly tell that to the japanese 95-olds are lapping to me in the park. And I might add, still smoking cigarettes as well. Did you hear about the, sorry, total side note, the woman who just died, the oldest woman ever. Yeah. 123, I think she was. Oh, yeah. And she only gave up smoking 15 years ago. Yeah.

not a fan of smoking no no no no i i understand but i'm just like how long would she have lived oh exactly i mean she hadn't smoked yeah she might have been 200 man anyway to to leave on that mind well yeah i mean look again you know i hope that i hope that explains to you all a little bit about the diversity in the lifestyle and and a little bit about i guess some of the people that you know we interact with they're amazing people I don't met these people face-to-face yet, and already there's quite some camaraderie there and some great chats. It's amazing.

A quick note that we will be in Dallas on the way down to Desire, and we are actually visiting Colette in Dallas on the 10th of November, and we're doing that with the average swingers. Really good friends of ours. Well, we call them really good friends. We hope that they're, you know, they say the same way. They're laughing at you right now. I know. And taking the piss. And taking the piss. So if we... Probably calling us cunts.

Jay's arranged vip room um if you want to come if you're in dallas or in the area drop us an email at cnd at swingingdownunder.com yeah and uh and let us know so that's november 10th in uh dallas in collet um club but please understand the obviously the vip The area is not super huge. have limited space very limited space so um you know uh but again happy to if you guys come along and and want to say g'day to colette um the um swing oh wait the swinger bandit swinger bandit will not be in appearance the swinger bandit might might arrive.

No, I've been explicitly warned by John and Jackie Melfi that the Swinger Bandit is not able to join the club. But may still join. No, so there'll be no... May still join. Hold on. Jackie and John, I promise you there'll be no Swinger Bandit appearing from me that night. May you still join. My split personality, however. He's totally going to be up in the house. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah, if we see you there, that'd be great. For those who we are seeing at Desire, it's going to be awesome as well. We are fully 100% booked, I believe. I can't wait. It's like 70 days. Yeah.

I mean, the countdown is on. Countdown's been on since 130 days. Yeah, but now it's like, no, it's actually 365. We announced it almost 12 months. And now you're just hanging out. Well, it's kind of, you know, when you work real hard and you're just kind of waiting for a holiday or something and you just, I say that and we've been to Cambodia last weekend. Jeez, we sound like assholes. Thanks for listening. As always, had a great time. Hope you guys enjoy it. Drop us an email. Please rate us on iTunes. Give us the good stuff.

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