P41 – Thriller in Manila

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Ever wanted to be handed the keys to a Ferrari, meet the sexiest voice on iTunes, or perhaps kiss a little C down under? November 2017 at Desire Pearl may be your chance. Come along with us on a swing trip of epic proportions by letting us know you're interested on one of our sites. A personal message on Twitter with your names and email addresses will work as well. As soon as we have the details finalized, you'll be the first to know. What's your thing? Care to join us? Come along and find out. Fuck you later. This is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.

So you've just finished listening to something that we tacked on to the beginning of our previous... Tacked on lovingly. Lovingly, yeah. It was lovingly tacked on, but it was still tacked on to the beginning of the last pod. You have just heard three very sexy ladies. Whoa. Yeah, you have. Blowing a bit of wind up your own ass there? Absolutely. Wow. One must. Just throwing it out there, saying... Sexy. Confidence is sexy, baby. So you have just heard three very sexy ladies talking about something exciting. A little teaser script. We'll talk more about that soon. I do agree.

There was three sexy ladies. Yeah, you do. Yeah, fuck yeah. They're all very, very sexy. Yeah. What are we going to talk about? What are we going to talk about? Yeah. What, you know, what, like the dates that we might be. Maybe. Three. Well three new weeks. We've got a threesome of exciting new things. We do. We do. We are officially the lifestyle sponsor for ASN Entertainment. Absolutely. And ASN Radio. Yeah. And it's really nice.

We've been talking to the guys at ASN for a while, and they've just given us a press release now, which we'll get out soon, to say that we're on their channel full-time. It's pretty exciting. Yeah, so now you have more than one place to hear my irritating voice and C's loving, sexy, charming voice. An intelligent, witty conversation. Yeah, and of course the very good C jokes, the perfectly timed, well-punched lined callback reference. Well thought through. I think that just generally witty banter. Amazing jokes. Join in for Swinging Down Unders witty banter.

In the worst possible radio voice that you can do i'm practicing so yes that's pretty cool so we've um not only can you hear us through our standard podcast stuff now all the pod catches but also on asn lifestyle radio which is cool speaking of hearing us now um we just want to let everybody know we're currently in Manila, Philippines. We are. So we are recording this on one microphone, hodgepodge inside of a, what is that, a napkin holder? Let's call that MacGyvered. Okay. Yeah.

For, well, actually, for anyone who's like a naughty or a 90 birth, yeah, you don't know what MacGyver means, but let's just say that it's been pretty well crafted by myself. Excellent. Yeah. Should have just actually sticky taped it to the ceiling and hung the cord down. Damn it. Yeah, I know. We'll be right back. Speaking of radio, though. Speaking of radio, yes. Pretty exciting second news. Yeah, absolutely.

We've been asked by an Australian, a major, in the morning not so good yep but other than that it's pretty awesome we will be um interviewing with kiss radio with hosts sophie and matty and that will be out in a little while we're not 100 sure when they're going to air it yeah yeah because it's because the timing difference between sydney and manila manila um it's going to have to be a pre-record scenario but but yeah at 6 30 in the morning yeah so i'm going to be like mainlining some coffee beforehand but we'll be um we'll be on there as soon as we know though we'll let you know yeah so we're talking all things lifestyle and um what to expect what you know the way that the lifestyle is today versus perhaps 1970 yeah so we So we're excited to share that.

We hope to bring some insight and hopefully maybe some sexy more couples into the lifestyle that, you know, we can eventually shag. That's the end game. It's actually all very selfish. We just want to get laid ultimately. Yeah, that'd be nice. Yeah, it would be. Oh, okay. So, should we get over that? I've got a few more zingers I'm going to punch out throughout the cast. Yeah. Oh, nice. I've been practicing them all day. Have you? Well, I've been so pent up. There's the second one. You like that? Third and final exciting news.

Probably, I'm going to say this is this is up there well this is in reference to what what uh you listened to tacked onto the beginning of our podcast i was gonna say that this news trumps everything else but then i didn't want to actually mention his name on the podcast and i've done it anyway but oh my god well that no good that is um if you've been practicing that all day it was still shit okay good hey sometimes constructive criticism works yeah well that that was all destructive but the exciting news is on top of the other two um that we are actually uh headed to desire everybody probably knows this by now.

Desire Pearl. Desire Pearl, yeah, November 2017. We'll be there from the 11th through to the 18th of November. Yep, next year. Next year. So, look, we're not planning on making any money out of this.

What we're planning on doing is trying to get some people along because it's the more exciting bit to us and to the joneses from we got a thing and from the curious couple so tna the most exciting thing for all of us i think is is the ability to get what we learned at naughty in new orleans is that the couples who come to who uh who listen to us all seem to be very similar minded and also drop dead sexy yeah so you may have heard us talking about naughty new orleans 2016 one of the positive things that we spoke about for that event was realizing actually that a lot of the uh listeners for the for the joneses when they did their seminar are really interesting, intelligent, and sexy people.

And what we wanted to do was really capitalize on that. Yeah, absolutely. And so, please, if you want to come along, come along. If you head to our website, you can check out more details. Yeah, you can book through our website. We'd like you to do that.

be great if you can if you can't if you want to do direct that's not our preference of course because the reason behind that and there is a reason behind that right the reason behind that is because if you book through us we're going to we'll be putting together some stuff to um uh to keep the week a little more interesting than just your standard desire trip. And the desire trip is already pretty damn interesting for us. But, yeah, so we're hoping to get some other people on that can help us with some sexy, cool stuff and some other things. Yeah, absolutely.

I'm not doing a very good job here, am I? No. okay though constructive criticism so that's really cool we're looking forward to that because well number one we get to meet up with the joneses and tna at desire pearl yeah so it's going to be pretty cool you may have heard us talking about our first trip to Desire, which was Desire RM. And yes, we went 24 hours overseas in a plane and decided to head there. And I tell you. Worth every minute. Yeah, so come and join us if you guys get a chance.

So that's 11th to the 18th of November next year, and you'll see more information on our website but getting away from that yes talking about some interesting some sexy time swinging in asia swinging in asia how you finding it how am i finding it tough yeah yeah i'm struggling a little um swinging in asia well i don't think it's been to be honest i don't think it's been any different to finding our niche our niche group in australia it's just more going through it the second time rounds giving me the shits i'm gonna convert that that's an australianism and it does not mean that he's not having diarrhea right now it means that it's making him angry it's making me it's making me somewhat angry some of the time somewhat frustrated somewhat frustrated yeah yeah and certainly you know our recent experiences have not been anything to make it less frustrating would you agree yep i do we do have though i mentioned before that we're currently in manila in the philippines and in the time that we are here in the very short time we're here Thank you.

i do we do have though i mentioned before that we're currently in manila in the philippines and in the time that we are here in the very short time we're here we have two dates with two couples a date a date each with yeah i said that wrong we have two couples that we're seeing and we also have one single guy that we are seeing yes so possibly another couple really oh yeah Yeah, that's next weekend too.

So, yeah, we're filling the we're filling the the buffet at the moment well you know where we're at with this is that out of the four potential three potentially four dates yeah maybe someone's going to drop out we were well what we were actually working on is my 50 percent my 50 percent dropout scenario that we use generally unfortunately well not unfortunately well unfortunately for your day job um it appears that that might not be the case that everyone may actually come through which is which is awesome and also very tiresome for you yeah yeah and also also I think that someone needs to shout us at least one of the dates because otherwise, like, we're not Oprah rich.

Aren't we? No. I'm not Oprah. I know that's shocking for you. Geez, I wish I had known that up front. Yeah, sorry about that. Well, okay, tis what it is. We did actually catch up with one couple last night, though. We did. Lovely couple. Local couple. Well, yeah. Local. Live in the Philippines. Yep, live in the Philippines. Yeah. Half foreign. Yeah, half foreign local couple. Not going to tell you which half, but half foreign local couple.

I mean, it's like a lot of the countries in Asiaia there's a quite a a large expat population population so the and the majority of the expats typically are guys so um typically it's an expat guy and uh an asian lady and that's how it is this time around and interestingly enough actually the um the way that we have managed to contact these couples is through um sdc as well as the app field so f-e-e-l-d um so we mentioned before that there's really not this there's not one website here that's a little bit more um you know in tuned or dominant yeah it's not a dominant site but i think we think we've come closer to finding a dominant site now though we've run into a site that has a lot more people on it Thank you.

in tuned or dominant yeah it's not a dominant site but i think we think we've come closer to finding a dominant site now though we've run into a site that has a lot more people on it and we're throwing it out there we'll throw it out there because we really want everyone to uh to go there if they can um and it's the adult hub.com which i believe is actually i think it's from the uk originally yeah it actually is registered in um the uk i did notice that recently that was it came up as being registered in the uk yeah so but that's fine i don't care where it's registered but it seems to be a lot more couples couples and singles here in asia than than what we found on any of the other sites which is good with sdc you do get a lot of transient people so sdc is quite good for that if you're intending on taking a holiday vacation yeah or catching people who may be coming into your country on holiday then you can actually go into the travel section of SDC and you can either put your travel up or see other people's travel into the country so I think probably that functionality on SDC is probably one of the better functions yeah having the ability to kind of catch up and see other people that are traveling maybe you're both traveling into the same country which we've had in in for for our upcoming thailand trip yeah absolutely other people that are going to be also there traveling traveling yeah at the same time we are yeah so um we've met as as he mentioned we've managed to find a to hook i'm going to say hook a few couples here and a single and we caught up with one of the couples last night and they were lovely yeah and well i mean go some detail well we had we actually caught up at a wine bar which let's be honest is a real surprise they said hey let's go get some wine and cheese to begin the night and i was like what you had me at wine and at wine and cheese.

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the. If you walk through the door, you're here and you've actually, you can string two words together, then. There's a fair chance you're going to get to shag. There's a fair chance that I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. Which, look, they were a really interesting couple. Yeah.

We spent maybe, we actually went in with a bit of an interesting plan this time around because it was a school night it was sunday night and we did the pre-briefing we did a pre-brief that that mr and mrs jones talk about that we wanted to be we wanted to have a decision made by nine um and we weren't meeting them till eight so we had an hour to sort of feel figure out which way we were going to go and which way we're going to swing yeah i was i tried to steer clear of that pun but thank you for dragging me back you are welcome uh yeah so we tried to we tried to have an agreement that we'd get something sorted beforehand before nine now what that meant is that we needed a way to because code yeah code we needed a way to code this out so we came up with a code yeah no was hey i think i might have a bourbon yeah because nobody likes bourbon nobody in the world likes bourbon i don't know who they're selling it to i don't know either the pixies bogans in australia australian bogans okay yep maybe possibly for all of our australian bogan bourbon drinkers out there i am just kidding no you're not no i don't like bourbon but the positive yes was extremely funny it was hey maybe we should get some takeaway cured meats to take home no it's amazing you don't even remember it yeah salami it was sal funny.

It was, hey, maybe we should get some takeaway cured meats to take home. No, it's amazing. You don't even remember it. Yeah, a salami or something. It was salami. Yeah. It was, let's get some salami. Yeah. Because it... Because we're in a cured meat and wine. No, because it was meat in the shape of a phallus. Yes, and it was referenced because we were in a cheese and cured meat facility.

We were in a cheese and cured meat facility, were in a cheese and cured meat facility yes more commonly known as a spanish restaurant they had to pass they had did they did have tapas tea pass so we uh so we used the code code we did but um so you mentioned 8 p.m and 9 p.m there yeah no this is where it got interesting because we had a conversation manila traffic is by far we've traveled quite a bit it's the worst traffic on the planet that i've seen would you agree yeah it took me three hours to get from the airport to our hotel which is not even 40 kilometers i don't think no no no it's only like 25 kilometers yeah so what's that half marathon basically yeah 25 kilometers so it's only 16 17 no it's not even that much 15 14 miles 14 15 miles and we that it took that long three hours so the traffic and that wasn't even peak hour that was just regular everyday traffic that was regular traffic yeah so the traffic here in manila is just appalling so we had a conversation beforehand why don't you tell what's so we were talking about you know the allowable wait time so we always run with you know people may be late and and i have a fairly firm rule what's your rule i'm not going to call it a direct rule it's more like a semi And then we'll see you next time.

with you know people may be late well and i have a fairly firm rule what's your rule i'm not going to call it a direct rule it's more like a semi hard rule um i i think half an hour without any comfort without any conversation to say hey guys we're running late we're really sorry you know with some justification behind it so you're half an hour without any hello yeah with a hello you're a little bit more i can deal with longer if there's some justification behind it but what we did decide was that in the philippines really you need to allow at least an hour minimum yeah you need to be flexible so anyway we digress but the point is this they turn up at 8 45 yeah so we had so we had 15 minutes to essentially meet them and decide whether or not we wanted to bring them.

We obviously extended that time frame out. No, C's a total slut. She was like five minutes in. She's like, yeah, salami me. Salami me. I was not. I don't know. Because I was still actually trying to finish my wine and eat my cheese. And eat some salami. And have some salami. You did eat some salami.

So, yes, we did eat some salami so yes we did ask them um in fact i asked i actually made the move you did make the move because you totally neglected to notice earlier that i said twice see would you like some more salami i heard you oh did you yes we were just in mid-conversation and i couldn't exactly like and he just ordered some drinks so i couldn't do anything about it so i did ask them eventually back to the hotel and we came back together you did ask you did i'm very proud of you i think that's probably the first time second i think second or third I feel like a fist bump Fist bump, excellent Ooh, with fries Yeah, we've got a nice hotel.

This is actually a really good hotel room for hosting. We actually forgot to mention that we did find a nice little bar beforehand. Because we knew because they were we knew they were going to be late they did keep in contact with the whole with us the whole time but we were already ready we were ready but so we decided being that we're australian we'll go for a drink we'll go for a drink we'll go for a pre-drink drink pre-drink drink so we did that but we went to a different bar because there's nothing worse than being in the same bar right it's ludicrous yeah so. Yeah.

So we went to a different bar and we walked in there like, wow, this is a really good bar for a swing event. And then 22 minutes later, when our first drinks arrived. We decided it was not a good bar for a swing event. Especially when, what was mine? It was a, I got a Bloody Mary. Yeah. I mean. I don't even. A Bloody Mary. You just pour, it's just three things in a glass. The only thing I can think of is that he's running on Manila traffic schedule. Maybe. Maybe he had to get the tomato juice delivered. I don't know. But they came back to our place and we opened up some wine. We did.

We held up and had some more discussions. We did. Some touching and hands wandering.

We got very cozy on the couch, which couch which was really which was nice four people on the same couch yeah well i mean it's a pretty big couch it's a pretty big couch yeah although he's a pretty big guy he's pretty tall yeah he's very tall it'd be like what i think actually we talked about that yeah i don't remember because we um we were having a discussion about whose legs would be deeper embedded in the into the back of the person in front of us on an aircraft yeah he won did he yeah he was i think he's seven foot seven foot six or something like that and i'm only no sorry six yeah and i'm only uh six one so he won yeah and i'm still pretty awesome, just to throw that out there.

So, to get things moving, I went and got in some... You got into some lingerie. Well, you know what? We were talking about lingerie. We started talking about Wicked Weasel and what was the other brand? I can't remember now. Not Pleasure State. No, it's the Australian... Honey Bidette.

Honey B it honey but it yeah we started talking about that and so then i actually had some wicked weasels here so i made the move to go and put on the wicked weasels and come back out and show her on my wicked weasel set yes which it took about i'm gonna say 15 seconds after you walked out the door on your wicked weasel set for everyone everyone to follow you into the bedroom. Yeah, I actually don't really recall how that actually – You walked out and said, look at my set. Oh, wait a second. I think you said, let's go to the bedroom. No, I didn't. Didn't you? No, you did.

I said, look – you came out and said, look, this is my set. And I said, well, now we need to see both the ladies in their lingerie. And she said, well, no, let's – she said, no, let's just take – see.

I c i'm just gonna take her to the bedroom that's right well are the boys allowed to come and watch and then we came and watched okay yeah and that was pretty cool yeah two sexy ladies she's got a lovely bum lovely bum nice little spankable bum although she became the spanker of the evening every chance she got she was like senior swinger but for spanking I do recall being mid play and all of a sudden the spank came out of nowhere you had three finger marks on your ass for most of i did which was kind of cool don't want to get into too much detail i suppose but what what we will say is that we ended in a half swap a half swap yes yes so we see um continues her fantastic um uh well you're about to say ability well i was going say superpower but like it it's like the evil genius superpower no this is a good lead-in keep talking evil genius superpower for um turning erect penis is not erect yeah something like that it wasn't it wasn't a great night for the full swap scenario.

But there was soft play. You also had a little bit of fun with a strap-on, our new strap-on. Yep. That I just purchased, which didn't work very well. No, it did not work very well. Not at all. That's the third one that's not worked well, I might also mention. Yeah, look, trial and error, babe. Yeah. You know, you've got to invest in things. This is like making money out of startup companies. You just invest in a lot of them in the hopes that one of them will make it big. Okay. It's like Kickstarter for sex toys. Exactly. Kicks, no, there's no way of, no, I'm going to let that go. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, so the play was good. I mean, we played quite a lot with her. Well, you did, I did. We engaged quite a bit with her. I was getting her partner to engage in the time with her as well when he was having some difficulties. So I was kind of trying to get him to come back to, you know, touching on her, kissing her, et cetera.

What we did learn, though, is that they had a bit of a play session night before last that may have also not um does that happen not helped i don't think not doesn't happen to me generally so if you've had a big play session one night and then another big play session the next i'm just going to touch wood here because you know because there's we's... We've got day breaks between our dates. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, again, though, I still have the same packet of Viagra that I've taken with me since Desire last year as a just-in-case scenario. It's always there, just in case.

So you played, though.

You had a lot of fun um yeah i did i did and uh i had i had a lot of fun right up until i realized that you weren't having a lot of fun or you weren't getting what you would what you were um hoping for which was a good shagging yeah sorry what are you i thought you might want to actually talk about some of the fun that you did have oh okay sorry this means like you know talk a bit more while i'm drinking my wine so um well i uh i managed to take her from behind whilst she was going down on you well first of all you're actually you were going down on her with your fingers inside i noticed were you doing the come here the move that you've been practicing for yoni massage i'd be i i wasn't doing the come here the move no i was doing a a circular rub of a g-spot area which is supposedly less intense okay yeah just you know She seemed to she seemed to be enjoying it she did seem to be enjoying it um along of course with some uh tongue play on a clitoris didn't hurt things either i don't think um then you got involved she went down on you and i took her from behind whilst you she was going down on you.

That was pretty cool, and you were sucking on his dick as well at the same time. Yep. Yeah. And then from there, I don't really remember what happened. Yeah, there was a lot of play. I mean, we don't need to.

Yeah, we don't need to go into every single trick that that i have do we no we don't but um because i guess what what did occur later is um it got to the point during the end of the evening where d was going round two or three with the lady and he was putting on another condom and being quite unfulfilled up until this point i looked at him and said hey so what are you doing sounds a lot more you know you've put a lot more emphasis on it now it was more like hey what are you doing well i was trying to be sexy in the moment actually maybe maybe it did maybe it didn't whatever and meaning i was meaning come and actually have sex with me actually Actually, what you were meaning was, please come over here and fuck me.

What he said to my question was, yeah, I'm going to go fuck her. Well, it was a question.

We've established now, this afternoon, we've established that there was perhaps a lack of receptivity on my side and a lack of full communication on your side would you agree yeah so we've uh we've we've learned from that and so i got up to go to the bathroom and i was in there i think for the whole time you were having sex with her you started as i got off the bed and you'd finished as i finished in the bathroom so that was that was actually the first time that you've had sex with somebody and i've not been in the room i didn't finish um she stopped it oh that's right it was actually um uh what we probably didn't mention is that even though he's six foot something she's uh quite a small filipino lady so um i and she'd played the night before as well so i think she was just done she was done yeah which is fair enough i mean i'm i was i was uh quite impressed by her backup skills anyway you know one one day to one night to the next yeah so um and i don't think it is the first time either by the way not that we like there's been other times where we started you've gone to the bathroom or there's been other things going on okay yeah yeah the interesting thing there though was that um i thought about it after and i was i remember listening to a podcast actually that the joneses did and there was one really funny funny session where mrs jones says that when i think mr jones is telling the story actually and he said all of a sudden the leg hairs were getting ripped out of the back of my leg and that's when he knew that mrs jones you know maybe had something to say and i thought about that after i was like damn it i should have gone for the leg hair pull yeah and i think that's probably what's going to happen in future isn't it yeah yeah it's a tough one i mean i we thought that we were both we both thought that we were trying to communicate well or that the other one knew what the other one was thinking or doing by my asking what are you doing of course that is not the case um so next time you know we're trying to figure out how to how to engage but um what we're going to do is if there continues to be failed um sexual attempts at me being with guys then d is going to try and pay more attention and if that continues to happen then i'm actually just going to outwardly say i want you to come and spend time with me yeah which, which I think is a way that should work for both of us.

Because also you had not understood or noticed the full depth of the failures. Yeah, well, as I said to you earlier, it's kind of difficult when, you know, if you're going down on a – and I don't know whether you can hear that in the background folks but uh that's manila traffic the beeping tooting means hurry up tooting means i'm going to turn um or it's a taxi or tooting means also hey uh you folk would you like a taxi yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of beeping going on it also means my hand has not pressed the horn in a little while and i just feel like doing it. I'm bored. I'm bored.

I'm just going to press the horn as I'm driving down the road. Yeah, so we, again, every event, every slip-up, you generally tend to learn something from it. So hopefully we've learned something from that as well, both of us, and we can do a better job of keeping each other satisfied moving forward. Yeah. Did I just say moving forward?

I feel person all of a sudden it's like we're in a meeting no look i think that you do you tend to learn a little bit from every play session or every situation doesn't play session every scenario you know every failed date or successful date or conversations with different people all of that stuff you kind of learn stuff from and you grow or change or adapt your style so i think it's kind of as shitty as it is it's probably a good thing i did go to bed saying that not only was i hungry but i was unsatisfied yeah you're hungry in two two occasions yeah yeah but i mean i did offer my services to satisfy you at that point but you just weren't down with that no i turned you down at that point yeah yeah you had your hating on i was hungry and unsatisfied and you're like second offering me hey well hey now i have a penis span now would you like it okay fair enough well but to be fair i mean what i've thought about in the last because this occurred last night so what i've thought about in the last what 12 hours 12 hours is that you know again i'm having a bit of a bad run yeah i mean i know that it's i know that it's us it's it's us as a couple but um you know i think that a lot of the different podcasts people have spoken about this and even we've spoken about it with lifestyle friends but when you continue to have these constant issues constant battles and it's not just battles about you know like guys guys being able to perform for you the battle is also oh he didn't go down come along even oh but no but even that i mean if you cannot if you cannot perform that way there's other ways you can perform he did not go down on me he did not touch me yeah there's other ways that you can engage if you're having issues down there yeah and that's the difference between somebody who it happens to and they just get on and deal with it and and decide they're going to actually have a good time anyway or show the other people a good time versus people who just go oh well this is terrible and i'm just gonna going to shut down.

I'm not going to do anything, sit back and watch. So you do kind of have a moment of going, well, I mean, statistically now there's been one common factor amongst all of these situations. And what's that? Me. And so as much as a woman can sit back and logically go, that's not my fault or it happens to everyone or it's medically or it's whatever, realistically, that doesn't begin to come into play because you go, well, hey, this continues to happen and maybe it's something I'm not doing or am doing or I don't know. It's not.

For all the ladies out there that have been caught in this situation, it's not. It's generally the guy's in his own head and making it worse for himself. Anyway. Yeah. This stuff happens. The reason we're communicating this is because I think we want the world to know out there that this stuff happens. You know, certainly the last few months have been tough for us to rebuild that group of people that we enjoyed hanging out with that could also perform, get you off. Well, here's a question.

Since we want to try and be helpful about it, what is your advice to the men out there that this may occur to what advice would you give them during that moment yeah look this is a it's a loaded question for me because i'm not but i can i can give my what i would do what i would do is quite simply um i would state the fact that i'm having a problem but then say i so now i'm going to do other things to to enjoy myself with you all right that that would be so like you've said and i think probably that's where you've got where you sort of get that idea from i would then go down on you and i'd use my fingers and i'd use other things other range of stimuli to try and get you off that would be my course of action and certainly when it happens which it will at some point that will be my course of action yeah and hopefully with doing that relieving the pressure on myself hopefully that will allow me then to get out of my own head and start regaining that or you can go back to your partner i think is another good yeah but that's no guarantee either yeah that's true it's no guarantee i mean for me i mean i try to i try to also make people feel okay by engaging them in the other situation that's happening yeah so i would engage him into you know touching on his partner you know engaging back you know so that's's yeah but that again that didn't so it may or may not help i'm just saying it's possible that sometimes it might and if it does great i guess you know yes i'm sitting here telling you all that it i don't feel that great about the situation at the moment but i what i will say is to other women is of course it's not you It's nothing to do with you.

And try not to let that affect you and your enjoyment in the lifestyle. Yeah, because it does happen to everyone. Sometimes you just get an extraordinarily bad run. Yeah, I don't know whether it's better or worse that people sometimes just don't turn up.

You know, I think that that's actually worse it can feel that way because it's one person having not fun yeah i mean up until that point you had no idea you had had you know oral you had um been with penetrative sex twice up until that point everything was roses yeah so from your aspect you know i think that it can also be very lomp-sided you know one person doesn't have a good time the other person does so that in itself can either be a good thing because you can just say yep selflessness fine happy my partner had a good time or you can say well we're in this together and actually one of us didn't so that's pretty crap crap.

Well, that's how it works for us generally. Yeah, after. After you realise, but during it it's... Yeah, but without knowing it's very difficult to realise that something's going horribly wrong without knowing that it is going horribly wrong.

So my question though that I was going to really throw out there is that think about the strike rate that we've had with couples and then think about the strike rate we've had with single men i legitimately believe that the couples that we have played with that have we've had a high percentage of much higher men having a struggle than the single men because i almost feel like if they're single men and they're in the lifestyle they maybe know they're comfortable they probably play more i think it's probably more to do with do with the fact that the single men if they don't perform in the lifestyle then they become almost superfluous don't they well that's what i mean like it's it's they they know they've practiced it it's fine whereas couples maybe the guy is less practiced maybe he's not used to being with so many other women maybe the single guy is and so that may come may come with one of the reasons why i'm seriously beginning to think whether or not couples are the path that we should be focusing on so there's a there's a gauntlet slap for all you couples out there no it's not a gauntlet it's just that i mean thinking about the strike rate no i agree so if you look at it it looks very it looks very biased toward the single guys the problem with the single guys is getting them to show up yeah absolutely so generally when they do show up they have they have no problem performing but they have to show up mind you though if you then add in all of the other things that we love about the lifestyle the social aspect going out having intelligent conversation fun friendly flirty if you add that all back in it's back to the couples again so it really depends on what you want to focus on i, if you're focusing on just actually having a sexually good time, it's a single guys for me.

For you? Yeah. Not a lot of fun for me. Well, I mean, it is. I get to watch. But what do I do? Jerk off in the corner. It starts to get a bit weird after a while. I'm pretty sure generally you're still engaging. Maybe. Maybe a little bit of engagement.

Or if it's, you know, wanting to have that other relationship and that that intriguing conversation and sexy yeah conversation flirty conversation you can still have 30 sexy conversation with a single guy though yeah but i'm just saying like it's a dynamic right there are four people it's a lot easier though when you find a single it's a lot easier because you're only looking for a three-way connection when you're talking with a single guy right whereas with your if you're talking with a couple you're now looking for again that four-way dynamic which can be more difficult to to get right so i think it's less tough as well with the single guy to get that dynamic right because you do find um well yeah i suppose you're only talking to one person and the message is one person that you're setting up the date with and you can tell pretty quickly whether or not you're interested and frankly it's pretty simple if a single guy i think honestly i could train single guys out there and who want to get into the lifestyle if they're you could probably write a book oh if they're a nice enough if they're just going to be a nice guy they've just just got to be.

D's top 10 hints at being a single guy in the lifestyle. I've given some of these guys some of my hints. Manicorn 101. Oh, fuck. It's terrible. Just be, for starters, just send a text message every now and again. You know, once every, what, three or four days would be enough, I think. Even a week would be enough. Just to keep you engaged. God, we get less texts from our friends that, you know, once a week. Yeah, good friends than once a week, and we still consider them very good friends. It's just, yeah, it is such a simple thing for a single guy.

If a couple's looking for you, my God, they will absolutely give you kudos for just being engaged. Yep. That's the simplest thing. And we did actually say that to the single guy we're catching up with on Thursday night. Thank you.

give you um kudos for just being engaged yep that's the simplest thing and we did actually say that to the single guy we're catching up with on thursday night yeah we actually said outwardly said to him you are the true man you are the true unicorn yeah but the thing was the thing with him is we we actually really has have run out of time we weren't going to catch up with him because we – But do you know why we are? Because I would actually like some interesting time in the bedroom. Some cock. Please. Would be nice. Here's what you want. Not necessarily.

I did have fun playing with her last night. I mean, that was a lot of fun. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, having that dynamic or feeling a little bit like a little bit lopsided is the crappy thing yes again you get to watch me over on one side of the room doing stuff and you sitting there trying to do stuff yeah i didn't give it a red hot go though you did you gave it a red hot poke i did i really did there was a lot of oral there was a. There was a lot of, hey, come back over here and, like, touch your wife and suck her nipples and watch us playing with her. Yeah.

You know, that was always, you know, giving a good go. Oh, you were bang on. Thanks, babe. Oh, you're totally fuckable. Yep. I'm there. Time will tell. Woo! What else? I mean, a really funny thing actually happened this week. Yeah.

So you probably should say you're here in manila this week i was actually in bangkok beforehand and i was there for a bit of a couple of days of um uh client meeting yeah and during this meeting one of the evenings because you're in bangkok i mean hey what else are you going to do right you head out to one of the red light district streets yes and we went out and with a client your client took you a client. Your client took you. You probably should say that. Yes, the client was like, hey, let's go get some drinks. And, of course, you need to make a decision at that point.

Well, frankly, if you go for a drink in Bangkok, it's pretty hard to get away from titty bars. But this is why I say it's a titty, not titty bar. I know. This bar was weird. Because, in fact, actually, this particular bar in Bangkok, it was it was and by the way they claimed to be the bar out of the hangover but it was written on a dodgy piece of paper and handwriting that was sticky taped above the door um they probably tear it down when the bangkok marketing 101 the um so inside the bar every little bar area had a pole above it.

And the pole were ladies a table it's a table pole pole table yeah yeah and the ladies had the same uniform on exactly the same thing and they all had a number stuck to the front of their shirts yeah and um because their names would be way too hard to say they don't even their names they don't dance no they just stand there with a pole in one hand and kind of slide to the left and right a little bit and why is that interesting though it's not yeah but what's oh they're not wearing underpants yeah there we go only the most crucial fact of the entire part of the entire place so it was just so strange but then we were having some drinks in there and actually shouldn't you call that a vajayjay bar then rather than that's what i mean it's a titty not titty bar oh but the client actually he ordered one of the ladies and he pretended to order one of the ladies for another guy who was there come on we all know what your game is buddy yeah she came over she was dancing for a bit everyone was just kind of chatting around the table not really paying attention to her at all except for him everybody else was just engaged in conversation and um next thing i know i look over and she's now squatting down with her legs apart and her skirt lifted up just putting her pussy facing him yeah he paid her for that he was just looking at her pussy yeah that's all he was doing like this and maybe 30 centimeters away like a foot is that i'm not a weird thing what to have just to like have a girl just lift her skirt 30 centimeters away from you and go hey pay me for this and not to if you're um well you know my my theory on strip strip clubs anyways it's for me i've always been well if i can only look at it it's not that really that exciting it's you've got to be able to touch it to make it fun so strip clubs is not really my scene but i have seen an awful lot of guys out there who do love a strip club but But this isn't even a strip club.

This is not even a sexy dance. This is just I'm going to stop, lift my skirt, show you my vagina. You can stare at it for 10 minutes. Give me some money. Yeah, I can see men totally paying for that. You can? I was like, I just don't get it. I know men who pay that money to see your vagina for 10 minutes. That's weird.

It awkward for everybody involved no not really not when you're getting like 30 every every second of the 10 minutes yeah i don't think she was getting paid that no i know but anyway that's my random bangkok story so there you are titty not titty bar yeah so i don't do we have anything else we want to cover off tonight i think that's think that's it. We're golden. So we have some more dates coming up, and we plan to try and get some other pods done whilst we're here away in Manila. And we are looking for the thriller in Manila. Oh, man. Yeah, you're right. No, that's bad. That is bad. Damn it.

That is me. Like, what's happened? That's radio. I just went radio. What has happened? I never said radio hardcore radio i should have said it with my radio voice on oh i did decide something interesting last night benefit of internationally swinging oh yeah you get to wear the same like a good old fateful yes your dress and yeah your standard dress yeah it's awesome nobody has ever seen it yeah they rock it but i don't think anybody really cares. That particular dress you're talking about is fucking stunning. Yes, but I know, darling. I know. Yeah. Okay.

So, yeah, so we're catching up with a couple tomorrow and then the single guy Thursday. Yeah, and then possibly another couple on Saturday. Please. I'm just praying to the swing of gods. Yeah. Yes.

I another couple of um not failures i mean that word's pretty rough it's pretty negative but i think another couple of ones where maybe it doesn't progress so well i'm probably going to start wondering about certain aspects yeah so i'm sure we'll be fine i'll just from now on in i'll text them beforehand like solo out of the group chat and say bring your a game all right well that's it yeah thanks for listening guys i hope you found that interesting and we'll catch up with you again soon but for now this is c and this is d and this is swinging down under