OnlyFans announces that it's banning sexually explicit content from October 1st, 2021. We dig into what we're calling the OnlyFans purge, we give you alternatives to OnlyFans, tips on moving your fans across to your new platform and what you can do now.
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you're listening to the wanderlust swingers podcast with aussie hosts kate and daryl if you're curious about exploring your sexuality or the swinging hot wiping and non-monogamous lifestyle you've definitely come to the right podcast or maybe you just love travel adventures either way we share our personal sometimes juicy sexy stories as well as swingers club and event reviews interviews with other sassy people and of course our global swinging adventures we try to bring you a look into the diverse lifestyle that the swinging and non-monogamous community has we hope you enjoy now let's get into the episode g'day guys and welcome back to another episode of wanderanderlust Swingers Podcast.
We are today in a bonus episode. You know we like to talk about all facets of sex positivity. And Daryl, do you remember a couple of years ago how I tried to run a segment that was social media buzz? Yes, years ago. That was since we've been here. No, no. Social media buzz was three properties ago in Singapore. It was when we were living in the loft apartment. Yeah. So today's episode is kind of about that. It's about the recent OnlyFans purge of 2021. We are going to talk about that on today's episode. We're going to talk about what's happening with OnlyFans.
We're going to talk about some of the information that's been put out there, what you can do, and then we're going to get Daryl in.
Andl and daryl's going to try and stay awake i mean he's going to offer some insight into the sales picture and then we're going to get daryl in to talk about some sales tactics so this is not a normal type of podcast but we'd love you guys to hang around and listen anyway because we think this will be a little bit of fun maybe and a little bit interesting to you guys or you can piss right off it's entirely up to you you can come back and listen to the next episode that we're going to publish very soon right let's get into it so what's happening with only fans i'm going to run through some dates and some data and just get some facts straight before we start talking about anything else right june in 2021 only fans writes publicly that they are seeking funding and that the company's been valued they have a valuation of one billion dollars as a company right so that was back in unicorn that was back in june now in august august 19th to be precise the first report of this actually came out in bloomberg media and bloomberg from a spokesperson from only fans said that they will soon from october 1st be removing sexually explicit content and that's as much as they could talk about they didn't talk about the terms of service.
They didn't talk about any of the changes that would be coming. They were very gray about it. And they said information's forthcoming, but we're looking at banning or removing sexually explicit content. So that was August 19th. So of course, this hit the media everywhere. I mean, it started on Bloomberg, but then it just went crazy, colossal, because you can imagine, right? Yes, there's one or two people on OnlyFans, which from now off I'm going to call OF because it's just gotten too hard already. 100%. So, in fact, you're right, there is one or two users.
There's, in fact, 130 million users, and they had a huge spike, of course, in 2020, which we spoke about in a blog that I posted back in 2020. So 130 million users, $2 billion a year in revenue. And they had come out with this. Of course, everybody started flipping out. So some people were freaking out and trying to be proactive about it, which is where I wrote a blog. And I'll talk about that soon. Some people were saying, stop being fear mongers. This is not going to affect us.
They were talking about this being about, you know, you need to be verified, and some sex workers were saying stop being fear mongers you know this is not going to affect us they were talking about this being about you know oh you didn't you need to be verified and some sex workers were saying everybody just calm down and so that was august 19th two days later on august 21st so remembering during this whole flipping out and this whole media pr nightmare i'm going to call it only fans deadly quiet nothing on their twitter accounts didn't release any kind of report or say hey guys calm down nothing which alluded to the fact that this was coming right because you know otherwise they would have said something to the contrary august 21st so two days later only fans officially updates its terms of service which come into effect on 1st of october and this is where it kind of gets a little bit sticky so i'm not going to read i'm not going to read the the terms of service out to you.
Please don't. What I will say is the why. I want to talk a little bit about the why. Some people were saying it's about getting funding. Some people were saying it's to create a saleable company in the future. There's a whole host of reasons why people are suggesting this happen. What has actually happened? It comes down to the payment processor. That's it. We know payment processors don't necessarily like the sex industry. We ourselves have had problems with payment processors cancelling our accounts with no notice.
So what's happened is MasterCard, which is a payment processor for OnlyFans, was lobbied by a conservative group called the National Center on Sexual Exploitation or the NCOSE. That organization actually came out and said, yes, we did lobby MasterCard.
And yes yes this is a win for us and this is the reasons why interestingly though mastercard spoke to cnn a spokesperson for mastercard had a conversation with cnn and i quoted by saying the changes on of are nothing to do with mastercard they did not suggest they had to do them it's got nothing to do with us yeah it's almost like somebody's claiming it just because it makes them look better. Yeah, so OF is saying we can't do it. They're not saying because of MasterCard. They said it was because of their payment processor. Yeah, but they didn't say MasterCard.
They didn't say MasterCard, correct. MasterCard is saying nothing to do with us. We didn't tell OF to do anything about this. And then this National Centre on Sexual Exploitation are saying yep, fuck yeah, it's a win for us. Cool. It's a lot of smoke and mirrors. Hey, so I wrote a blog about this, swingingdownunder.com forward slash OnlyFansPurge. The link will be in the show notes. Head over to that because that explains a lot about what's been happening.
I also go into details on some recommendations on some sites that you can jump to if you are currently on OnlyFans and are seeking a new site. I thought we agreed we were going to OF. Sorry, if you are OF, if you're on OF and you want to find a new site, I had a few recommendations in there and I'm still going through some other recommendations and vetting them, I guess, so I can actually talk about them properly. So what's happening? October 1st, as of October 1st, you cannot put any new sexually explicit content on OF.
And what that means is anything that sex related masturbation related or even alludes to sexual body fluids or anything like that so even if it's fake what's it called when somebody tries to do something fake fake no fake news you can't put any of that on there for new content from October 1st December 1st if you're an existing OF by December 1st, all of your content that breaches this terms of service that's considered sexually explicit must be removed from your account.
There is no if, buts, or maybes, so anything you've got on it that breaks this by December 1st has to be gone, which also means that any... Well, it doesn't have to be because they'll just take it down. Yeah, they'll just take it down. Yeah. That's true. But you said in no if, buts, or maybes, and I just provided an if, a but, and also a maybe. Okay, fine. You can leave it there, but eventually they will find you. I'm not sure they're going to kill you, though. They have a certain set of skills. Yeah. That they've created. Okay.
Hey, the one more point I want to make about this before we start talking about what you can do about this situation. I'm not sure I can do one more. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm not sure I can. Anyone who has bought your existing content that will soon be deleted either by you or by OF will no longer be able to access that content. Or just download it, put it on their home porn server. Right. But a lot of people are saying they've spent thousands of dollars on pay-per-view messages and stuff like that that they'll no longer be able to access. That's true. Don't you download pay-per-view messages?
You could use your computer to capture the data. Or just download it by pressing the download button. No, you can't press the download button. But you could use a Chrome extension to pull the data. Yeah, I mean, that sounds hard. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure people who have spent thousands of dollars on porn on OF are incapable of adding that Google Chrome extension to actually I don't know.
I'm sure people who have spent thousands of dollars on porn on OF are incapable of adding that Google extension, Google Chrome extension, actually, because they don't sound like they're into online pornography at all. No, no. They don't sound like they know what to do with a computer. I'm pretty sure they know what the I and the T stand for in IT. They are definitely on the interwebs. They are on the line. So. Let's talk about what you can do now to move it.
So you and I were having a conversation on the couch because I was like, a lot of people who have spent years maybe getting a following are rightly so freaking the fuck out, right? Because how are you going to entice people to move over to a different platform with you? It's hard. Yes. So let's talk about that.
So you dropped some figures to me me what did you say like out of customer base out of it's just any customer base exactly in the world of sales generally there's 15 who are unhappy with your current service whatever that is and there's 15 who are extremely happy so you've got two ends of the spectrum there the unhappies are already looking for else to go. Whereas the happies are really stuck with you and they believe you're providing them exactly or better than what they're being paid for. The issue is, is in the middle, there's a zone of indecision.
And everyone who sits in that zone, especially with a change like this, is now evaluating, is it good enough for me to stay with this person? Should I continue with even this service? So it's not just content creators who are on OF that have this problem because also people are now evaluating the next, whatever the next site is, they're now going there. If you're trying to draw them across, they're now going to the next site and saying, is this easy to use? Am I satisfied with how this works?
So not only is it just the people in the zone of indecision that are now at risk of moving or leaving or just never signing up, also the people who are in the happy place, the 15% at the top end, they're also now evaluating a whole other service with the potential that they might decide they don't like the format of that service.
So it's not even just the things that the content creators are putting up, because you may be putting up excellent content, but if it's very hard to use or very different to use, to find, to access, to pay, all that sort of thing, if that becomes too difficult, then people will just slip back into the zone of indecision. And then all of a sudden they're at the point where they may disappear forever. So you're looking at a solid 85% of people who you could lose immediately. The 15% will go. If they're already in the zone where they're not happy, they won't resign-sign.
So let's talk about this and let's just pretend you've got 100 fans that are following you, right? So you're saying 15 of those fans are going to fuck off anyway. Yeah, they're likely going to go anyway. Whether they're unhappy with the platform or with your content, either way, they're going to disappear. They're going to disappear from you. So they're not the people that we're going to focus on because there's nothing you can do about that, right? Not really, no. They're out the door. You may capture a few of these as they move across, but it's really unlikely.
If they don't like your content or don't like the platform, you're done. Yeah, okay. So the 15% that – sorry, the 15% of the 15 people out of 100 that love you, do you think that they're hands down going to move?
I mean, you just mentioned if the platform platform's difficult there's still a potential for the platform to be destructive to your brand as well because you don't own the platform you're also reliant on what the platform offers so if they don't like the platform then they potentially could not move as well it's less likely though it's highly likely they will move all of them and deal with the bullshit of the platform just because they don't like it just because they really enjoy your content okay so so out of those 15 people you could assume that 15 would come across you could assume just like that yeah i mean it it's going to be maybe a little less maybe a little more but call it 15 and those people you would say don't really need a lot of enticing because they're already uh they'd still just because of the platform change i would still say it's worthwhile to offer an enticement to get them across let's talk about the 70 let's talk about because that's a lot that's a lot it's a huge amount this is so 70 of your following now are in this indecisive bracket and could swing either way now very easily either way right as well in terms of then when you're trying to make a sale to people let let's talk about that for a second.
When you make a sale to somebody, it's difficult, right? And then what do they say? To retain a customer is easier than to find a new customer, right? Yes, because people, there's a cost to move. Right.
You know, you've got to go, even in this particular circumstance, you've now got to go hunting a new person that you find better than the current person you're with right so there's a there's a cost either in time or literally a funding cost to make that move you know there's somebody who's potentially providing better content may be more expensive right exactly so you're now making the decision do i upspec to that better content and pay the extra can i afford that so there's a whole lot of things that go on there and and it depends on the gap of course if there's if the gap's not big enough that people say okay well yeah i can i can deal with this movement because of the because of the gap um then they may move to somebody else because of that or they may simply just shut down their account because they go well fuck it it's too hard i'm going to go through this process again especially if you spent thousands of dollars i'm going to go through this process again and let's be fair it's only a matter of time before any of these sites have the same the same requirement exactly so i actually just want to pause there and mention one of the pieces of what i'm calling gold star advice in my blog is that i would urge you to actually go on i've recommended a number of sites one of them in particular i've said is the one i'm moving to but out of the other ones that i've recommended i've also gone ahead and secured my username on all of those sites so even if you're going to use a primary site and maybe you might upload a few videos to another site or whatever and test the waters i would suggest that you go ahead and get your username well, nobody knows what the primary site's going to be in future.
OF has been the primary site for quite some time. Yes, the dominant, yes. Yeah, and that may not change because what you're also forgetting here is that people may risk it and stay with OF, not only content creators but also users.
I do have some tips on that that I'm going to talk about towards the end after we talk about the sales process, but go ahead, set up your accounts, get verified on all of those sites, even if you're not going to use them, just because that way you've got your username secured and so nobody else can take your username or put fake stuff up on your username or whatever, because I just think that's a really good piece of advice.
You've also got to be careful here that you don't start sending people to different sites to too many sites no no to any other sites you need to pick a site oh 100 i have said that in my blog i i wholeheartedly so there's two schools of thought on this there's don't put all your eggs in the one basket spread them around right because then you can do that after you manage to transfer people that's what i think too i think you've got to focus and hone in on a site which is what i've done in my decision in my blog and then i've gone and secured sites in the other secured users on the other sites but at the end of the day if you start then trying to dilute your fan base particularly these people that are 70 on the fence and you give them too many options you've created yourself a barrier to entry another barrier to entry where you're saying to them go here and here no the way to keep people in this transition is to make this transition as simple as possible exactly as simple as possible so anything you can do to make it easier on your on your fan base the the higher the likelihood they'll maneuver with you because they so that may be even helping them with giving them instruction to the logon or to the to the process to start a new account you know all of those sorts of things will help you know and i think the people who are on the front foot when it comes to that make it as easy as possible for them to them to move they're the people that are going to keep the majority of their fan base okay so i'm going to bring we're all inherently lazy yeah that's true i'm going to read through some of the tips um that i gave in my blog and i want you to jump in maybe with some additional sales processes i haven't read it yet what if i hate them you may you may completely disagree with them yeah uh and on that fact if you read my blog or if you're listening to this podcast and you yourself have some awesome advice, email me, c at swingingdownunder.com, because if you've got great advice or you disagree or you have other sites to refer, send them through to me because I want to be able to update this blog and share best practice, best information to try and collaborate.
One of my pieces of information that I gave in my blog is to move now, right? So between now and October 1st, don't wait, don't wait until October 1st and certainly don't continue to promote only fans and getting new subscriptions. That makes zero sense to me. I know a lot of people out there are saying do a 60% off sale for your current OF account. That's getting a new client. Why the fuck would you do that? Then you've got to remove them somewhere else.
So you're to them twice it makes zero sense to me i understand people like make you know make hay while the sun's shining on of i i completely disagree with that i think fine look after your existing fan base there whilst you move them over to the new site but all of your potential new fans send them to that new site that you're going to pick the the one new site because there's no point selling twice to them You're just giving yourself some heartache. Yeah. And also if you're going to give people a 60% discount, why the fuck haven't you done it till now? Yeah.
Just because the site's closing, you've decided that's the best way to gain followers now. And that's why I said it's going to be twice as hard to resell them then because on the new site, it makes no sense to me. Obviously you need to move people from your existing platform, OF, to your new platform. There are certain things that you can and cannot do and certain tips that I recommend. One of the things is that, obviously, you cannot say on your OF account that you're moving to a new site or it's because of the terms of conditions or here's the link for my new site.
You can't put a competitor's site details all over OF. And what you really don't want to do right now is piss OF off where they close your account, limit your account, require verification, hold your funds, all of those things that we know OF can do. If you piss them off right now, then you've lost the advantage of the now less than 40 days that we have. And they may also take the time to just take down all of the content that they believe doesn't fit their new... Exactly, before you've even had a chance to get a hold of it. So don't piss them off. Do this strategically and... Stealthily.
Stealthily. Stealth it. Because even if they could put your account on pause for two weeks and then you've lost 14 days out of the 38 that you've had.
Rid so don't don't say hey join me here you can't say that what you can do is be smart smart about how you can advertise so rather than putting an actual post up on your wall with hey join me over at this new place or putting details on your social media accounts website whatever you can do things like put a picture in and send it in a direct message free to everybody and in that picture put your new link there because it's not text it's not going to show up as easy on the analytics of OF right they will totally be inspecting pictures for that it's highly likely and that's another thing i actually put did put a disclaimer in my blog saying like this is trial and error i think it's highly likely they I mean, they've got algorithms that are scanning images anyway on the way in.
They already have that. That's the only way they could offer that they will kill off anything in future is they have to be able to scrape the data. So they're going to be already having that operational. So I think the likelihood of them closing or limiting your account if you do that is reasonably high. Okay. Well, I actually did that yesterday. I took all my money out of OF and I did that yesterday. So time will tell. Another idea I had is actually two ideas. Video. So you could do a video and you could verbally tell people, hey, go to this site, here's my username.
Especially if your username is the same on OF that's going to be on news site and of course it bloody well should be that's an easy one hey go to this new site search my username new site forward slash my new my username you'll find me there that's an option so put a video up and send that again direct message is a much better option than picture okay great you're sending a direct message to everybody and it's not a pay-per-view message obviously people it's a free message and that's the way you're going to do it so my third option was to go live on your account and do the same thing so between now and then obviously you don't just do this once either what's the here's a question in terms of when you as a consumer get new data and then you're making your decision how many times do i need to be touched, touch points, before I'm actually going to make my decision?
On average, it's seven. Right. But also, on average, people don't actually even recognize what you're telling them until you told them three times. Exactly. So they don't even – like it won't even be a thing to them to prompt any action at all unless you've done it three times. Okay. Seven times is the average touch, amount of touches you need with a consumer to get them to potentially buy from you. That's potentially buy from you. Yeah. That's just to get them to act. Right. Yeah. So that's- If they're interested in acting. If they're interested, yes, which is the 70% of people. 85.
You've still got to bring the other 15 across. You can't just ignore them. No. I'm still saying, yeah. So you're right, it's 85. Yeah, you can't just send one message or one video and expect that this is going to be done. So that's why I'm saying act now, act fast, start doing this now because- Start including it in every video you do from now on in. I mean, everything you do should now have that as part of the conversation. And put the video in those direct messages. And the third thing I thought you could do is also go live a few times.
So again, you're hitting them with the private messages and then you could go live on your channel to people that are then seeing it. And obviously that's only a certain percentage at that exact moment in time that are going to be online and going to be watching you.
it's another tough point where you can go live and tell them what's going on those are some of the things you can do where to move them to i said you've got three options and i did say pick one and move to it we've just mentioned that a couple of times you can move them to social media a few people have mentioned that i do not recommend moving them to social media the reason why people might mention moving them to social media is because then they're in better contact with you and then not necessarily under a it's still a third party because it's a social media site but not a third party fan site right so then they follow you there so any other changes that may or may not occur in the future you've already got a hold of them realistically you should already have them on your social media anyway you should be promoting you should have been promoting to them once they're in your fan site to connect with you on social media yes yes the other thing is uh to a personal domain I'll see you next time.
have them on your social media anyway you should be promoting you should have been promoting to them once they're in your fan site to connect with you on social media yes yes the other thing is uh to a personal domain and i did write a note about that in the blog so i'm not going to talk about it today but the other thing is obviously to your new fan site and that's the one i recommend move them straight to the new fan site so why are you recommending that over the personal domain why am i because again it's a it's another barrier to entry so for me if i You could set them up an account on your personal domain and they're already ready to go.
How? So what, you're selling your own content on your own domain? Yeah. How are you going to do that with payment processors? What are you going to use? You're Rose House and you've just set up a new account on GoDaddy or whatever. You don't have a payment processor. You can't use PayPal. You can't put your own bank account up there. So what's your recommendation then? Okay. Don't be a hater.
I don't you can't put your own bank account up there so what's your recommendation then okay don't be a hater okay update your any links link trees etc on social media platforms now remove of links directly now send them over to your new fan site this includes anything on your put if you have a personal domain reddit instagram forum sites whatever the fuck remove of people there, send them to your new site. Okay, so marketing on OF, how are we going to get people across? How do you move, how do you make a sale to people? What's the thing that's going to get them across the line, do you think?
Well, there's a few things here. Price is always a facet, of course. It's not the deciding factor, but it is always a a factor so that's something that you might want to look at to help people move across the other thing is the content that you have on of now should be tailoring down while you're ramping up your content on another site to make sure that people feel the urge to move across now you have to tell them that that's happening because they don't know that's happening until they move across.
So you have to tell them that, you know, for the last 60 seconds of me finger-banging myself into massive orgasm, please go over to here. You know, there has to be an upsell reason for them to make that decision to move.
uh that's certainly the primary reasons to get the primary reasons that people would buy is because of that there's better value at one site or it's a lower cost two different things value versus cost are two very very different things because we all apply a higher cost perception to a louis vuitton bag than we do to one from ikea Even though they might have cost the same to make they have exactly the same value because all they do is transport your shit okay right so value versus cost sorry um cost versus value two very different things yeah um they're the they're the two primaries after that it comes down to now making people feel welcome and making it very easy to change.
So that is anything you can do to help them feel more comfortable on the new site. Again, tell them how to use it, tell them how to find you, give them rewards when they move across, you know, so that they will then speak the good word of how it's easy to move across to you. hopefully get some people on board that are, you know, spruiking your particular flavor of good news. And that might mean actually offering crazily somebody to do your marketing should be paid.
So in the way that you can't pay them right now, you know, there's no real way to pay them what you can do is offer a a lifetime potentially zero zero cost solution for them or or the next six months potentially to help them drive the other people on your site across third party reference is a much better driver than you marketing yourself somebody else saying how good you are is always better than you saying it. So that's what you're looking for with that third-party reference. Anything else? No, I can't give away all my sales and shit.
Otherwise, people will be like, you know, I could totes do that job. Let me take what you've just said and I'm going to talk. By the way, anyone could totes do the sales job. I'm going to talk about what I said in my blog and then I'm going to take what you said and I'm going to flip it into OnlyFans or other fan site terms. You mean OF? OF. What I said, similar to exactly what you're talking about. So I said. Similar to exactly. Similar to exactly, yeah. Obviously. Put them. Offer an investor discount. So like a seed investor that's coming across to your new location.
You are going to want to offer something. You mean a foundational so say hey if you come across now here's what i'm offering and that can be a discounted structure it can be so you mean the first 10 people get blah yeah the first 20 people get blah or if you're part of my current of fan base you come across and you select this particular perk you get let me know and then here's something i'm going to give you. So the other thing is offering free exclusive content.
So if you come across, which is what I've tried to do on my OF, if you come across to my new site, I'm going to send you a free XXX rated video just for coming across. So once they come across to your new site, you're giving them something. Again, it's that perception of value.
You're spelling that C-O-M-E-e-i-n-g right you're going to give them that perception of value coming wrong now one of my other things was help others move their fans across and create a gang so similar to what you're talking about with the reviews and i'm going to talk about how we can use that now actually so three of the things you said that stuck out to me was the reviews meaning something So if you put a pinned post on your OF account in a bikini, something... Third party. Three of the things you said that stuck out to me was the reviews, meaning something.
So if you put a pinned post on your OF account in a bikini, something... Third-party reference, you mean? Yes, third-party reference. So if you put something in there that's going to be able to stay past December 1st, and here's also something that I think everybody should do. Don't leave OF.
Keep your account there as a free account, because if you get people following you on that on that account and it's a free account when they come to your site or if they stumble upon it or whatever and you've got a pinned post there in a bikini or something like that that will be able to stay past december 1st there's an option for you to then find people and then continue to feed it's just a marketing click through it's a marketing click through exactly but on that particular pinned post, if you've got those 15% diehard fans that are going to follow you across, ask those diehard fans on that pinned post to comment underneath it, talking about how they love your spicy content and definitely people should follow you kind of thing.
I think that would be really great to do.
But you need to offer them something in return and here's what you would offer them out of all the content that you've got on of right now some of it you're going to move across some of it's probably just going to die maybe original content or whatever what you can do is create a shared dropbox or one drive folder put that content in it and maybe some of these seed investors kind of like people that are coming across or these diehard fans or the people that are going to drop you reviews or whatever they can have access to that dropbox or one drive folder which has got maybe potentially hundreds of photos in it or something like that that's an option yeah absolutely or of course you could offer them girlfriend for a day or bloody blah blah yeah so many different things that you could offer them like a video video where you're using their name, something that's exclusive to them, something that's going to entice them absolutely 100%.
Yeah, just make sure it's not voiced over. No, with the robot voice. Don't make your mouth move to somebody else's name. With that Dropbox or that OneDrive shared folder too, that's also a saleable item. So if you pull all of your data out, you've got an option here to also sell that lifetime access to that folder potentially for $150, $250, $350, whatever you're selling it for. That's an option as well. Or $3. Or $3. Or $7. Keeping your OF account for free, keeping it open, that's definitely something. So offer some sort of investor discount, offer some sort of free exclusive content.
Can we call it foundational discount rather than investor? Okay, foundational.
Because investor makes the assumption that they own part of you okay fine foundational there we go foundational person or seed yep don't waste don't it's actually a good pun i said seed before yeah but you said seed investor oh man god damn seed funding versus seed investor two different things yep uh do this now can't say that can't stress that enough and help others also so nah don't be you know don't be stingy with your time if you're able to help other people that are creating sex positive content just just fucking do it don't be mean but i like to be mean uh yes gold star advice as well is to remove your funds i mentioned it before but seriously guys remove your funds right now from of i cannot stress that enough you need to get them out and if somebody I'll see you next time.
well is to remove your funds. I mentioned it before, but seriously, guys, remove your funds right now from OF. I cannot stress that enough. You need to get them out. And if somebody else gives you tips, get them out again. Frankly, if you haven't been removing your funds from OF over the last, you know, like every time it gets to the OF minimum value, then that's not a very financially wise thing to do for one simple reason.
They're making interest off your money instead of you exactly i mean it might only be one two three percent but it's one two or three percent that's better off in your pocket than a huge corporate giant who's now going to take probably tens of thousands if not tens of millions of dollars out of accounts because if you're below a certain threshold you can't you can't move it or or disperse it back to your account can you nope so if you're below a certain threshold and you can't upload content to get people to buy in to add enough money for you to be able to draw that out that means that money stays there people like me i got a tip from somebody overnight and it's below my threshold so there's nothing i can do with that tip right now until i either get another tip make more money or you tip yourself the rest of the money so you can get it out which is exactly what which adds another 10 to their i know their profitability isn't that fantastic so you're paying them 40 now because i've lost the commission or has already paid a 40 tip isn't that a nice tip Thank you.
So you're paying them 40% now because the person the tipper has already paid a 40% tip. Isn't that a nice tip? That's a nice chunk of cash. So they're going to make, you know, you were concerned. This is one of the things you said to me. Oh, they're going to, this is going to undermine their whole potential for sale in future. Their profitability this year is going to be fucking epic, epic.
Because they're going to have all these funds that are people if people will close their accounts all this funding will end up in their pocket yeah all the extra dollar here it could be two bucks here five bucks there whatever it is yep it's going to be that actually makes me fucking mad i wonder if you actually do close your account whether they have to actually disperse that out i'm curious if you actually shut it down. A lot of companies now give you the option to give it to like a, you know, charity or something like that.
Of course, though, you know, in moving that money, there's a cost to move it as well to that charity. It's almost like they're a profitable entity wanting to make more money, which is lunacy. Like who would want capitalism to succeed?
I it well capitalism is the way of the world unfortunately okay guys so look if you want to read the blog i'm going to continue to update it i've already done two updates since i actually launched it so swinging down under.com forward slash only fans purge again link will be in the show notes hey daryl guess what shock me days after this is all unfolding, OnlyFans finally just responded to their people on Twitter. Oh, yeah? So they posted, so four days? It's almost like they were trying to figure out what the fuck to do because they're about to lose half of their base.
But then they realised, well, fuck, we're going to make a lot of profit out of this, so we actually don't care. Listen to this. See ya. Four days after. Yeah. Dear sex workers, the OnlyF fence community would not be what it is today without you the policy change was necessary to secure banking and payment services to support you we are working around the clock to come up with solutions hashtag sex work is work and this is exactly why they have backed themselves into a corner now and they are fucked they've just fucked.
They've just realised how many people are about to disappear out of their network because I would say, is there anything on OnlyFans? Yeah. Like how much? Musicians and gym people and stuff like that. But it's not a large proportion, I wouldn't think. I would be really interested in finding out. Yeah, give OnlyFans a call and see if they'll let you know. But I'm sure they'll be like, yeah, yeah, 90% is, you know, sex workers. Yeah. My question now, actually, as we're leading out, people are saying they may stay on OnlyFans. Yeah.
Knowing what I've just told you and knowing what they've now said, would you want to support this company? Would you be out? Like, where are you at? If you were on there, would you be like?
Right, but they just told you and knowing what they've now said would you would you want to support this company would you be out like where are you at if you were on there would you be like but they just told you how important you are to them yeah they did in their twitter they're working around the clock around the clock which they could have said fucking three days ago but they chose not to but they're but they're not engaged with social media i'm sure they haven't done any other posts other than that one in the last no they do they they constantly promote.
They constantly promote OnlyFans creators that are non-sex workers. Yeah. So musicians, et cetera, yeah. Yeah, constantly. Yeah. Yeah. Not a sex worker in sight on their promotion of their OnlyFans page. So would you stay with them is my point. Would you want to continue supporting a company? Well, the real question is why were you there to start with?
Because at that point they allowed it and you were getting fans and you're getting money you're making bank okay so you've now now they've removed one of the reasons that you can be there right and it's the only reason that you're there where do you think you and every other sex worker who's involved with that with of right now where do you think you sit in the 100 or the 100 people that we were just talking about before.'re in the 50 of the fucking angry people well no i mean there's 75 70 75 people plus 15 in the bottom half potentially in the bottom half of this conversation 70 plus 15 yeah so sorry 70 plus 15 so that that puts all of you in the area of the indecision or i fucking hate you.
I mean, it's not really that hard to figure out, is it? Nope. They're not making it easy for you to continue moving forward with them, for anyone to continue moving forward with them. So with that in mind, with those stats that are to date accurate, what are you going to do? Most people are going to leave. Yep. Most people will leave who are in the sex industry at all on OF. Yep. They will find some other way to do it that meets with their particular needs. Cool. So I'm out. I've already created my new account.
And if you don't leave, just quietly, you're probably going to get turfed out anyway. Yeah, you're probably going to get turfed out anyway. So, look, that's been the OF Purge bonus episode, guys. But if you're showing your vajayjay or your boobaliciouses, boobalishai, you've got to get out of there. You've got to get out. Yep. Get out. Purge. No, don't purge. We don't want to purge. Next episode's coming up. We are going to be talking about our trips to Cup d'Arg, to a Paris club, and we have some really good interviews. It's not our club. We didn't buy it. We didn't. We just went there.
I kind of wish we would own that place, though. There's a lot of clubs I wish I'd own. Yeah. Actually, not that place because that place is probably doing as well as it could. There's some other clubs we've been to that I reckon we could make a lot more money out of. Oh, that's what you're doing. Change it around. So we've got some other episodes coming up right now, which is closing the orgasm gap.
We're going to talk about why and if your partner actually has a type uh and then we're going to talk about our trips to there's an orgasm type what what closing the orgasm gap yeah one episode totally on its own one episode different episode okay is if your partner has a type oh do they do they not what sort of type like you mean like a keyboard type yep that's exactly right because i really i really struggle using yeah they're qwerty uh no it's not qwerty here that's the problem no no my keyboard is qwerty in front of me i know but mine isn't because the local keyboard is not a qwerty keyboard yep it's qwer z it's a qwer z keyboard okay which really fucks with Does it?
Yeah, well, the Y and the Z are exchanged. I don't think people care, though. I think they do. This is a bit of bonus episode all about the OnlyFans ban and of explicit content. Just in case you missed the whole thing. Just in case you missed the whole situation. And if you fast-forwarded to here and missed all the rest of it, you probably should just stop downloading our shit.
So we'll see you guys soon for more swinging content lifestyle based content thank you very much for listening and to all of the sex workers out there of people hang in there um there is this is just a hurdle and uh as long as we do something about it now and as long as we're on the front foot and helping each other it's not the end end of the world we'll get through it it's just a change in platform some people this is their livelihood so yeah i understand that but if you have a livelihood that is based on somebody else's platform then you have to be prepared for the platform to make a change yep and they might do that and not give you any notice exactly they could do that the next day so if you've learned anything from this particular change in platform their terms perhaps you should prepare for that with the next platform exactly so what daryl said before is that you know now that once things get stable and you're on the new platform start getting people following you on social media potentially get them on an email distribution list something like that so that in the future you can market direct to consumer uh that's all i've got to say let's go ciao bye
