How to Lose a Swinger 8 Ways – P17

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Speaker1: This is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under. I'm going to start tonight's podcast off with a little bit of a disclaimer. You may be wondering what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a little bit of a negative event we've had here in Sydney that we've been, I'm going to say, putting off talking about. Yeah, it wasn't a whole heap of fun. We'll run through some of the interesting points we learnt along the way. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, look,
Speaker2: if you don't want to. Yeah, it wasn't a whole heap of fun. We'll run through some of the interesting points we learnt along the way.
Speaker1: So I guess what I'm trying to say is that, look, if you don't want to hear us talking about a funny negative event that we've been to here in Sydney, then tune out now. Hey, look, one out of how many podcasts are we up to? 16 now? One out of 16, not a bad hit. Not a bad run. If you do want to hear, and it's quite hilarious. Well, I don't know hilarious so much as frighteningly hilarious. It's still hilarious.
Speaker2: Yeah. I don't know hilarious so much as frighteningly hilarious. It's still hilarious.
Speaker3: Yeah.
Speaker1: Ben, keep listening, because what we're going to talk about today is how to lose a swinger eight ways. So before we start off on that, I just want to cover off something here. You may be hearing some noise in the background now. I need to apologize. That's our batshit crazy Sydney weather that we're having at the moment.
Speaker2: Thank you. uh cover off something here you may have you may be hearing some noise in the background now i need to apologize that's our batshit crazy sydney weather that we're having at the moment which uh you know of late has been between uh what 13 degrees and 40 degrees depending on the day and and there's only been two day space in between those it's been really quite nutty here at the moment but all to all of our friends though in america there's been tornadoes weather issues droughts floods yeah but you know sydney's tougher have you seen our kangaroos i mean they're pumped as bro yeah okay so back to how to lose a in eight ways. So this podcast actually, like I said, we've been putting it off for a little while,
Speaker1: mainly because we didn't want you guys to think we were negative.
Speaker4: But this happened, how many months into us swinging, would you say?
Speaker2: Four? Four or five, yeah. Four or five months in.
Speaker1: So we were looking at going to a party. we'd already been to a club and we thought maybe we could check out house parties and see the difference yeah absolutely um just i suppose to give some time perspective that's now seven eight months back for us because we're coming up to our swingversary we are we're nearly one year one full year in the uh in the lifestyle so So as we said, one event out of the – Yeah. We are. We're nearly one year, one full year in the lifestyle. So, as we said, one event out of the year and the whole heap that we've been to is probably not bad. It's not bad. Not bad run. So, the first way.
Speaker2: Number one.
Speaker1: Misadvertising expectations. I'm going to introduce everyone. Yeah, that would be spectacular. It would sound like an 80s radio show.
Speaker2: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker1: So we heard about this particular event on our favourite lifestyle get-together social networking group. That's a really long way of saying red hot pie. Yeah, basically social media site meeting swingers on Red Hot Pie. Yeah, absolutely. And it is advertised on there as an event, you know, a flagged event, as a... Sponsored event. Sponsored event, good get-together, that sort of thing, with a great location and a house with a spa and that sort of thing but i'll let see probably give a bit of a descriptor of the walk-in you know i actually want to talk about why we decided to go first okay i mean you alluded to it but the the event is up on red hot pie it's a sponsored event but the banner and the advertising is professionally done so first and foremost your reaction to that is okay is, okay, this looks like a really, really cool, sexy, trendy place. Well put together, well thought out. Well put together, well thought out. Secondary to that is their descriptor about this amazing beachside location on the south side of Sydney with a spa and all these kinds of really great pop highlights. And so you kind of get this picture in your mind. I don't know about you, but I was thinking double stories. I was thinking rumpus room, social area. I was thinking massive, massive spa or jacuzzi. That was not what we got. Wow, I wasn't thinking those things at all. Were you not? No, I was probably half that level of thought. You were half? Yeah. Okay. And I still was disappointed. So, yes, the walk-in. The walk-in. So, upon walking up to the actual location, first of all, it was in a suburban area. Which is not unusual. Which is not unusual. And we took a taxi out there. I think it was about $80 to get out to the location one way which is which is fine you know you want to have a couple of drinks and have a relax so that's not a problem upon walking up though what we noticed was the wreck of a vehicle that was sitting in the driveway yeah yeah let's just say it was very very old very very rusty and not yet fitting into the classic or vintage style car.
Speaker2: No, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker1: However, upon arrival into the actual premises, a few things happened. What we noticed was that the place was not at all clean. No, not at all. In fact, well, we'll get to the rest of the house in a minute, but I took a wander during the evening, as you do, out to the men's only to discover some awesome things in there, like pubic hair and the soap on the sink where you wash your hands. Actually, there was no towels. There was no clean hand towels. No hand towels to wipe your hands. Cleanliness in a swingers event is a lot higher than godliness given that fingers can end up in places that are a little less anticipated by your average soap i suppose so uh the soap was um you know less than desirable to pick up and then add to that the open rubbish bin beside the sink which had a uh open zavirax case in it now for those of you who aren't aware zavirax is a cold sore medication which um you know not again not the first thing that you want to be thinking of when you're involved in play with a group of people so that was uh less than inspiring throughout the evening but just the general overall cleanliness of the house, it was very dirty, very dusty. Cluttered and all those kinds of things. Yeah, absolutely. Look, I mean, at this point, we've come all this way. So for us, we're committed. But secondary to that, we're thinking, we feel like we've been led a bit astray here. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we have been. Yeah. There's no doubt at all. So that was the first one is just keeping the expectations realistic. It's fine if people are cool with that and that's the kind of party they want to go to because don't get us wrong. I'm sure there's many different – there's people who like different things in the lifestyle. There's people who are bisexual, people who aren't, people like who don't so you know i'm sure this there's there's parties for everyone and this is our perspective on this particular party yeah absolutely um sorry to introduce number two clientele yes the uh the clientele as uh we would say in australia rather than the clientele which um C has alluded to here. Look, we're not ageist. We really aren't. We've had... Or sizist. Or sizist. We've actually been with some people a long way outside of what we would have thought was our mandated or... Bracket. Age group and weight group and that sort of thing. The interesting thing we've learned along the way, I suppose, is that age is not defined by the number that's associated with your name. Unfortunately, we've met some very, very old young people and some very young old people. It really depends on what they look look like how they look after themselves um knowledge brain intelligence whether they're interesting to talk to exciting people you know that that's that all makes up the person that we we you know in the end want to see whether we whether we want to be with now that wasn't the only issue that i mean what i was alluding to there is there was a significant grouping of older people which was not yeah they did advertise i think from from 20 to 40 and i was probably the youngest person second youngest person i would say at the party yeah you would at 30 so um look you know it's it's not a huge huge deal but i guess what came with that was also the expectations on then dress standards as well so we turn up you know expecting to have a date you know we want to we want to impress people we're we're dressed in a dress heels d is wearing i'm not so much in heels i'm just in surprisingly for those of you've listened to the podcast up until now i can hear it chanted out there in podcast land i was in a shirt and a pair of jeans but a nice shirt and pair of jeans i was i was well dressed yes yeah nice pair of shoes the whole bit. We were the best dressed people at the party. I would say that. But the more frightening thing, I suppose, was the couple that was dressed in matching tracksuits. Matching velour. Velour tracksuits, yeah. There was nothing juicy about that couture. No, and if it were a piss take, that would have been fine. But it really wasn't. It was actually, that was their best dress yeah another guy was another guy was there in a sweatshirt i do remember yeah and there was a there was a guy there smoking a pipe now okay so pipes aren't totally left of center well they are okay i mean it's 2016 yeah but what are you doing with the pipe yeah so but what made it really weird was that the pipe was the style that you would have seen Sherlock Holmes use. I'm sure there's a name for it, but it's the long one with the big droop. Actually, if our good friends, the Adams, are listening, I'm sure they're probably taking us to task on the name of that particular pipe right now. If they're not, then I expect them to next time we catch up with them. So the pipe was a was a real downer downer for me um it was just weird to be honest um a lot of people got well during the evening we were there for maybe a couple of hours i suppose two or three and we stayed longer than we wanted to and we'll talk about that at the end i guess yeah uh there were there were people who got overtly, disgustingly drunk and to the point of falling down the stairs and also to the point of vomiting in the bathroom right beside where we were standing. In the laundry sink, actually. Yeah, which was really, really exciting for everyone involved. Yeah, not great. No, not at all. So closing off that, I guess, again, it comes down down to advertising and setting those expectations you know if you're going to have certain types of people there then just that say it how it is because you will find that again people want to attend those certain parties we we don't so make sure that you're telling people the right thing otherwise they're going to be disappointed but also maybe there's some people out there who aren't coming to your events because the expectations are too high maybe they want to turn up in tracksuit certainly say in our experience the the chances of finding people below the age of 30 versus finding people above the age of 45 100 yeah is significantly lower yep there's there appears to be certainly in australia and in our limited experience there seems to be a lot less people below the age of 30 yeah i'd agree with a lot less couples i should say there's plenty of single men out there but most of them are tosses um and just to convert that that just means that they're foolish they're idiots maybe a bit lower grade so we're going to move on to our third topic of the evening vibe yes the vibe of the entire event um not sexy probably a lot to do with some of the things we just covered off it just wasn't sexy it wasn't sexy at all i cannot even imagine myself even if we found um an attractive couple or single male or whatever the case may be i really i i think what think what we probably would have done is evacuated that party and gone to somewhere else that was more sexy and had a great atmosphere. Yeah, evacuated. That's actually a good word.
Speaker2: Thank you.
Speaker1: Because that's what it would have been.
Speaker2: Run for the hills.
Speaker1: I can see SAS people dropping from the skies. I would have gone swat in. From a secret black rope attached to a secret silent helicopter. Let's just say that Kitty was not amused. She was not happy at all she was sleeping it off really she was she was like i can't believe you brought me here and not only that but you've made me get dressed up for no reason yeah yeah she was hating on you really so there's another few reasons the vibe was really bad i mean beside the sexy the total lack of sexy um also the lightning it was sorry the lighting it was so dark it was that dark that everyone was literally congregating like moths to a flame to an outside light where um you could actually see other people's faces because everywhere else and in the place you couldn't see anything at all yeah you know it was like yeah uh cave darkness in the middle of the house which was crazy because i mean if you've come along to one of these events and you've gotten to know somebody and you want to spend some time with them then you know you find them sexy you want to see them no matter what shape size age you want to see what but even maybe dimmer like at the beginning of the night you might want to have kind of more lights towards the end of the evening you maybe want to like dim them down some people do get a little bit body conscious yeah of course but then of course when it gets to time for everyone to go you turn them right back up bright again they're called the ugly lights oh damn what that's what happens in nightclubs here they turn the lights all the way back up it's 6 a.m you look across and, what was I thinking? You've been there. Don't pretend you haven't been there. No, but at that stage, I'm normally walking on the sidewalk talking to pigeons. Yeah, plucking to pigeons. So, yeah, that was the vibe for us. I mean, I just can't imagine feeling sexy or feeling adventurous in that kind of a scenario. And the next one one probably leads into the vibe as well which is feed me so which is not a reference to sticking your cock in my mouth by the way just for anyone out there who was thinking like oh this is going in a great direction no no it is not no kitty's still sleeping kitty's still sleeping she is not keen Feed Me is about, I suppose, what, again, the expectations that were set on the way in, that there's nibbles and food. No, I'm pretty sure it says canapes. Yeah, canapes and food. Yeah, but if you say food and then you tell me canapes, again, it's a different level of expectation. Just because one's a French word. Exactly. Yeah, it's so much much more sophisticated somebody's going to correct me i don't know whether canapes is french it sounds very french yeah i'm going to go with what it is okay great but uh yeah so sorry yeah so when we probably an hour and a half into the evening, the food arrived. Now, I say the food arrived for a reason. Can I actually just put a pin in that? Okay. If anyone has listened to our podcast previously, you know I'm a fan of the platter. You know I like having nibbles and things out for our guests. Where's the cheese platter? Yeah. Where's the cheese platter? And in one podcast, I actually complained because I realized that no one ate the cheese platter. Not the point. A nice, delicious spread of a few nibbles. Look, it goes a long way. Some biscuits. Something. I mean, that's the best. Or some fruit. Or some cracker. I mean, I would take a cracker at this point. I was hungry. Yeah. So along came the boxes of Domino's pizza. Now, I need to say, you do love pizza you would eat pizza breakfast lunch and dinner absolutely and then probably snack and i have when i travel trip to italy i ate it for breakfast or if i go away for work yeah that's what i eat pizza i like pizza but um it's not the right product it's not the right thing for an event like this all right um you know two pieces of pizza and seriously see looks like she's got a baby on board it's not even that for me it was not the pizza no it did not it was the fact that the pizza wasn't even plated up you mean that it was still in the box was shuffled around the crowd in a box yeah there was not even an attempt to do any kind of presentation no and you're probably right because i did shovel quite a lot of pizza well i think at that stage you you were starving as well and so you were like i'm gonna eat a pizza yeah so i did i ate a pizza i think you had a couple of slices i wasn't going to take my shirt off at that point true so i gotta get something out of tonight i was pizza in. I would have got my $40 worth out of the pizza. Yeah, so having no nibbles and that, I'm just a big fan, big fan of making sure your guests feel comfortable, and we did not feel comfortable at all. Yeah, which I'm going to push on into the next one now because the next one is related to that. Drink me. So, again, this is not about me putting my penis in anyone's mouth, unfortunately. It's actually more about the fact that, you know, if you're going to hold a swingers party at your house, and in Australia, you're not allowed to sell drinks. Yeah, so it's BYO.
Speaker2: BYO. Bring your own alcohol. Yep, whatever that might be.
Speaker1: Or you might want to bring some soft drink if you don't drink alcohol. Yeah, but normally the mixers, so the Cokes, the lemonades, all that sort of thing are all supplied. That's part of what you pay for coming in. Yeah. right um so when we came along to this particular event the only drink that was available to mix with your um with your liquor was diet coke now i i despise diet coke i really do i don't know how coke got managed to get it so wrong so that kind of ruled out again another little just it's all these little factors add up to to something that means not a good night so those those of you who do like diet coke out there well oh look i'm sorry but well power to you yeah but it's when it's the only thing there for you to drink to mix with you know whatever you've brought well gin i mean like yeah okay what are you what are you gonna do there yeah drink Coke. Baileys, I've bought Baileys, we have diet Coke. Yeah, so that was a bit crap, but the next one was... Oh, this was outrageous. Like, this was actually outrageous. So, again, it's bring your own drinks. We turn up, I think I had just been to... You'd been overseas. I'd been overseas. So we came back with one litre of vodka and one litre of scotch. Correct. Which we turned up to the party with, brand new bottles. Which typically when you go to any other club or party in Australia, because it is BYO, they ask you to put a number on your bottle, which is generally the number of the name tag that you're wearing, the wristband or whatever it might be. That didn't happen in this particular instance. But regardless, people generally don't touch your drinks if they're not theirs. Yeah. Yep, generally. In society, we don't take other people's things. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you've got to know somebody pretty well to take their beer. I mean, shit, I'd let them have sex with you before I'd let them take my beer. You don't drink beer? Well, my scotch. Okay. You know that's true. So what happened was, though, we were walking... I think I was walking back in to refill our drinks because at this point I think we were also deciding to have a couple of drinks just purely for the sake of dealing with the evening. And somebody was pouring out of my vodka. Yeah, absolutely. Somebody was pouring my bottle of vodka into their glass. And that was because the host had actually offered it to them as house vodka. That's right. So Dee overheard the host suggesting, here we have wine and a scotch and a vodka. I might add, the scotch and vodka were ours and the wine was somebody else's probably as well no it was so yeah it was uh a little disconcerting would be the best way to put it yeah I mean I'm not going to carry around a hip flask no because I don't want anyone to share and I'm more than happy and have opened up and suggested we're happy to share at other clubs I mean we've been to OSS and there's been a newbie couple who don't have drinks and we are more than happy to share. Yeah, we always share our booze actually.
Speaker2: Probably a lot.
Speaker1: You generally give our booze away regularly.
Speaker5: That's my fault.
Speaker1: Yeah, I do.
Speaker2: You do.
Speaker1: It's because I'm overly friendly.
Speaker2: Yeah. Whoops.
Speaker1: You're a sharer.
Speaker2: What can I say?
Speaker1: But, you know, if you don't ask and people are offering it up,
Speaker6: different story, right?
Speaker1: So that was probably... Yeah. Yeah, especially when it was probably the main thing that upset me is the fact that it was the host. Yeah. And realistically... Because they should know better. As a host, you should know better. Right. Especially, again, in Australia, giving away people's booze is something that, I mean... I'm surprised people don't get jailed for that. We used to... Our currency in Australia used to be rum. That's right. You know, go back... This is a while back, of while back of course a couple hundred years but it used to be rum short period of time yeah but you can't take that out you cannot whip that out of people in in this few generations between then and now no rum is still bourbon scotch tequila still a form of currency here it is i mean we still give we still give cartons of beer to people as payment.
Speaker2: That's true, actually. Christmas time, thank you. Here's a carton of beer. Somebody comes around and fits an air conditioner for you, you might pay them with a carton of beer or a bottle of scotch. You may.
Speaker3: Yeah.
Speaker2: So there you go.
Speaker4: Yep, so moving right along, though.
Speaker2: So number six, which kind of, I feel like this is a good flow. I'm happy with this. Are you happy with this flow? Oh, the flow is awesome. Oh, it's happening. It's all good here. Number six is be a host to make me feel welcome. Sorry, wait, I'll rephrase that. Make me feel welcome. Yeah, so when we first entered the event, now we all know that these events are, you know, pay to come. they are in australia anyway in some countries you've uh you've got to ask for a voluntary payment um but here it's more than okay for you to ask for a payment for people to come along and people are happy to pay oh yeah because of the mixes because of the food everything that we've discussed before the fact that you're hosting you've got to clean up after everyone the list goes on yeah so people ask for money and this particular event was 40 which really is actually quite a quite a bargain it is quite a bargain which was again part of the reason that we were drawn to it somewhat no i think it was actually um well at the time we were like okay put uh you know spa jacuzzi canzi, canapes, everything else, great atmosphere, $40, man, this is cheap, they should be charging more. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's exactly what we were thinking. But we get there, and before we've even been let one foot in the door, it's give me your $40. Yeah, it wouldn't have been so much even that. It was the abruptness of the payment. You know, it wasn't a, can you, hey guys, before you come in, can you just pay on the way in? It wasn't even that polite. It was just, give me $40. And a hand slap, I might add. It was a hand slap. Yeah. Give me $40. Okay. That's what happened. so now to set the to set the scene we're already in a dark environment because you can't as we stated before you can't see anything oh that's right i think i almost tripped over on the way into yeah yeah so which is not a surprise because i'm actually quite a clumsy individual yeah so probably that could just happen in the daylight yeah but but that whole you know pay me now scenario sort of, it just winds you up a little bit already.
Speaker7: Well, you feel like you're a thing, you're a number, you're not a welcome guest, you're not somebody who they want to engage in.
Speaker3: You know, at this point, it's a business.
Speaker2: Yeah, it's a business transaction. So that leads nicely into the next thing, which is, you know, icebreakers and intros.
Speaker1: So if I were looking to do this, I'd probably do it the other way around. Rather than asking for the payment right up front, say, hey, guys, come for a walk around. Have a look at the place. I'll show you what the layout looks like. Yeah, here's where you can put your drinks. Here's where you can put your clothes. And then you can add on to the end of that. And we'll take – we'll take... If we could take the $40 from you now, that'd be great. Before you put your stuff away. Yeah, of course. So, and I think that'd just be a... It certainly wouldn't get you as wound up as what just the slapping of the hand and give me the $40 does straight away as you walk in. Yeah. We all know we have to pay. I have no problem with that. No, not at all. and we're happy to pay decent money if there's a really great party on yeah um but the walking around and the introducing and the expectations if you were a newbie couple and we met a newbie couple on the night you have no idea what's going on you just at this party we were just fed to the sharks we weren't even said we weren't sorry big part of me weren't even told this is you know you can make your drink here and go out here and introduce to perhaps somebody else we would just shown gotten the 40 and walk through the door and that's it that was it me as a host i would say hey cnd great take you around and then also maybe this is a little bit of expectations you know we stay clothed until roughly this time and if you're interested in dressing down you can do so and this is the kind of expectation and by the way here is bob and tess and they're really lovely people chat to them yeah it wasn't of that no no it was none of that so we walked outside and everyone stared at us rightly so and we're quite um we love to meet new people we're quite chatty. So we just walk up to the nearest person standing near the door and introduce ourselves, which later we were told is quite bizarre behavior. Yeah, apparently. No, we just introduced ourselves around to a few different people, quickly figured out that it probably wasn't the crowd that we were expecting. But, you know, you never rule out a good night just because it wasn't what you expected so we we found ourselves a couple of a few people that were interesting to chat to and we started chatting with them yep next topic number seven be a good host yes good segue yes absolutely so if you were hosting a party at your home with your friends would you or would you not walk around and just check on how they're doing maybe refill some drinks maybe offer some water yeah introduce them to somebody else make it they make them feel welcome yeah show them where the spa is which i might add was a ew 10 meter pitch black walk from the house to the spa and probably given the state of the bathroom hasn't been cleaned i can't even i can't even think and the number of parties oh my god you would have had to would have had to crack the top of it like a creme brulee to get in oh just just don't even think about it yeah um so yeah you're checking on people you know you're asking to maybe refill the drinks you're just generally being a really decent host just i mean just introducing people to other people you know but again that steps back to when you first walk in the door actually asking people what they're into what sort of people they're interested in is first time is this your first time if it's your first time hey we've got some uh long timers here that we might team you up with and they can show you the ropes there's the yoda couple again yeah so maybe you don't know yeah it would be it would be nice but no no um didn't get any of that lead in so hence they didn't know whether who we wanted to talk to or what we wanted to talk about now at this point we're not finding this party great right where we're totally out i mean we are out we are literally out the door um we stumbled i had two belly buttons my penis was that far inside gross and i'm going to talk a little bit about i'm going to say the positives right because i feel i feel a bit bitchy at this point in time you have been bitchy i've been bitchy i feel like i've reined it in you're totally a bitch okay if i was going to be bitchy i would talk about the bathroom and the cologne shaped dust area the dust patch left behind from where the clone's been moved yeah yeah the frayed towel that's bitchy yeah that is getting bitchy i could go on yeah you could but you won't the stained mattresses dragged out into the lounge room at like 10 30 at night also would have been quite bitchy yeah yeah so i could i could go there but i'm not going to i'm going to rise above it you just did no i'm rising above it that was just an example of how i could go oh right gotcha sorry Thank you. So I could go there, but I'm not going to. I'm going to rise above it. You just did. No, I'm rising above it. That was just an example of how I could go. Oh, right. Gotcha. Sorry. We met a couple there. Absolutely. It was their third time doing anything in the lifestyle. And their third failure. What she said to me. So he was kind of leading the charge. He was trying to get her interested. And don't get me wrong, he wasn't forcing her. She was interested, but weary, rather. She's had some really horrible, actually, weary is probably a better word. Yeah, she's a bit tired at this point. She's totally worn out. They're lovely. They're older than us, but they're very, very friendly. They looked a little bit like deer in the headlight i think they did oh we came in after them actually because we introduced ourselves to them and they were like thank god there's some other there's actually human life at this party and we stayed longer than we would have because of them yeah because we were chatting to them and we wanted them to know that there is a some other stuff out there and some better things to do and we promised them that we'd take them to a decent club or party the next time we went and we've been trying to hook that up for a few times now we've just missed them you know there's they were going to come to our pub crawl and and there was an issue where they couldn't come it was a legitimate issue we saw photos um and uh but it would be really nice they've now been i think they have have had a positive experience but not thank god so the conversation that i had with her was see i'm at my wits end if this is what the lifestyle looks like i don't want to be a part of it and i i went out of my way and this is why we stayed longer because i spent about an hour talking to her about all of the different aspects of the lifestyle parties we've been to good ones bad ones indifferent ones things that we've found worked things that don't um because if this was her third and final she was out yeah well the worst thing is is that as every person that we i'm gonna say lose every person we lose who's come into the lifestyle seen it and gone wow this is exactly what i thought it was in a stereotype yeah cd keys and bowls yeah hairs on hairy chair like greasy hair every one of those that we lose becomes another voice against the lifestyle against the lifestyle and they can actually put their hand up and say we tried it and it was horrific and uh these guys if this was their third party and the other two were just as bad then um frankly i'm not surprised yeah we would probably have not have continued no not to say so i fully appreciate and understand her her position but that's why we stayed longer and in fact we then made the decision to really stop trying to mingle with people because quite frankly we weren't really keen on it that was around about when that the the young the the only person at the party who was younger than you the young girl decided it was time to throw up in the sink beside us true yeah and so we were talking to them for the party for the next couple of hours before we just basically cut it we said we've got to go and at the same time they said thank god we're going to because they were driving home i think about an hour away it was interesting we had to wait for an uber and they kindly let us because it was actually quite a cold night if memory serves it was actually and we didn't even stay in the house to wait for the uber no no we we ran we stayed in their car yeah we stayed in their car to wait for the uber they let us they let us sit in there and we chatted some more before the uber arrived and then we jumped in the uber and off we went yeah but that was the end to the evening you know a spectacular evening that it was no follow-up either which is our final final one number eight no follow-up with something nice so see you's totally forgotten the voice oh follow-up with something nice wow that that was terrible that was my telemarketing voice yeah i can tell yeah or my um gps voice yeah so please park here we didn't get any form of follow-up from these guys from this party at all nothing nothing to no but even on the way out even when we're leaving there was no showing to the front door thanks for coming guys really great to see you hope you had fun if you've got any feedback let us know interestingly the only comment on the way out was the young lady that i mentioned um who had vomited in the sink was sitting on one of the couches in the lounge room at this point which you have to walk through to get to the front door and And C was wearing her black leather dress. And the young lady yelled as we're walking out the front door, Oh, the girl in the black dress. I was so hoping to get with her as her boyfriend strokes the vomit out of her hair. You getting a little bit too graphic yeah but that's what it was you didn't even hear it nor did you see it it was horrific and i feel bad for the podcast listeners yeah well sorry guys that's where it is i mean so that was the end of it there was no follow-up um we really didn't get anything for quite a period of time to even acknowledge the fact we went along to this event Needless to say, we're out. I mean, the event is still advertised. It's still a common reoccurring event. They do different theme nights. But this one negative event, I mean, we... There's just no recovery from this. I mean, we've had bad events at... Not bad events, I shouldn't say that. We've's no recovery we've had bad events at not bad events i shouldn't say that we've had mediocre we've had mediocre events at at um at other clubs here in sydney and you know every club every event it's gonna be an off night it's gonna be an off night yeah you know that so i hate vegemite but i'll still try it once a year just to make sure yeah the only australian who hates vegemite and i'm not going back there that's it uh it's it's worse than vegemite it's it's worse than peanut butter you are right we'll never go back never not ever so that was probably i'd have to say our worst yeah ever event in the lifestyle however now to point out the upsides to this we learned something about ourselves we learned um that this sort of party is probably not for us um we also learned that no matter what the event you can still find something positive out of it we found some nice people at this event we've um we've chatted with them reasonably regularly since you know given they're not a surefire fit into our standard of uh i shouldn't say standard but our our um likes and dislikes that's that's fine you know we really enjoyed their company on the night and we've helped them out as much as we could along the way since then so that for every uh for every glass there is a glass that's half empty or half full and And even though it was a bad event, it was still a half full event. Look, we got dressed up. We went out. I believe actually after we left, I feel like we continued to have a couple of drinks at a bar somewhere, probably actually some dinner, I think, as well we were chasing. So, I mean, a night out with you is never a wasted night for me. No, not at all. It was good. And it also taught us some things. Yeah. Taught us what we like, what we don't like. Yeah, so we won't be back there anytime soon. But, so, you know, thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the ramble. This is our solo bitchy commentary up until now. We hope to not have any more, ever. But we held off on this for a long time because we wanted to be sure that it was right in our heads and that we would never do what we've done there again. And it is, absolutely. So that was us done. Yeah. I mean, feedback, if you want to drop me an email, yeah, I'm spruiking me, not you, you can get me on c at swingingdownunder.com on my email. Absolutely. Or you can get me as well, and I know where all the emails are going to go. They're going to go to C. But there is a d at swingingdownunder.com as as well our website's up at swingingdownunder.com as well yep and you can find us on twitter stitcher yeah we're just all over the place we're just like we're just like social media whores i i think yeah i think slut well no what is it no we're not sluts we just love love yeah exactly that is actually a direct is actually a direct quote from the Atoms of Love on Twitter. Yeah, absolutely. Or our good friends, the Atoms. Yeah, absolutely. But actually, upcoming events too, guys. Want to talk a little bit about it. We are heading over to New Orleans for Naughty in New Orleans in July 2016. So a couple of months away. Disgustingly excited by that. It's going to be awesome. And really looking forward to meeting a lot of our American friends. And, I mean, I say friends because we've only met them in the lifestyle and we've only met them via the web or emails or Twitter. Fellow podcasters who really have made our journey easy, informative. We've relied on them sometimes when we've been in a bit of a confused patch and a shout out to uh you guys i'm sure you all know who you are because we've been in direct contact with uh with all of you around and we constantly tag you on twitter and we're trying to uh we're trying to catch up with as many of you you as we can while we're at naughty and um we're headedy. We're headed off to Desire. Desire in Mexico as well. So really, really excited for our, well, across the world trip, really. I mean, I don't know whether you guys know and appreciate the fact that it's like a 23-hour flight over to New Orleans. Yeah, it is going to. So if you see us, bring me an espresso martini because I'm going to need one. Espresso martini is a definite leg opener for C at Naughty in New Orleans. At least seven. Seven? I don't want to sell myself short, babe. Seven espresso martinis. You're going to be that wired and that tired at the same time from the alcohol versus the caffeine. You're going to be likeer when he's driving is there chocolate in the final few just because they're desserts at that point but otherwise thank you so much for listening guys um really enjoy talking to you and we hope that you enjoy our podcast this is c and this is d and this is swinging down under