Are you curious how a gangbang in the swinging lifestyle is created? Wanting to gather some tips for arranging a gangbang for your hotwife?
In today's episode we're sharing our 6 tips for arranging a gangbang, we run you through how to discuss the gangbang, setting expectations, vetting and plans for the evening.
Worried about creating a transition to play? We share a story on how D was curating a themed gangbang night which set up how the play would unfold.
In our latest swinging lifestyle podcast episode we share our 6 tips to arranging a GB; here’s a quick look ⠀
Why – Why are you wanting a Gangbang
What – What is it that you want to get out of this, what are your rules, boundaries and desires
Vetting – It’s time to run through our best practice ways to vett people with some hints on companies you can use
Logistics – How, what to plan for, what items are you going to need and why
On the night – what to expect on the night, how to transition to play
Aftercare – some tips on caring for yourself post GB Play ⠀ ⠀
These tips might seem a little over the top for you if you’ve had a GB before, you might be more of a fly by the seat of your pants couple and that’s totally cool! You do you (ya sexy thang), but in this episode we share how to curate a themed event
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The Playpen East Melbourne
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You're listening to Swinging Down Under, a podcast about the swinging, non-monogamous lifestyle from two crazy Australians with over four years of lifestyle antics to keep you entertained, informed, angry, happy, and horny. Join our international swinging adventures. G'day guys and welcome back to Swinging Down Under. This is episode 113, Six Steps to Arranging a Gangbang. Daryl, do we have a stardate? Do we have a scooch number? No, refusing. Refusing? Yep, Sunday afternoon. On all points? Sunday afternoon. Okay.
Well, I'm sitting here with a cup of tea and I've just previously had some Anzac biscuits. I I'm literally very Aussie today with a cuppa and some Anzac biscuits, but enjoying life. How are you doing? Good. Yeah, I mean, you're a little bit of New Zealand, New Zealander there as well, though. Yeah, a little bit of New Zealand. Yeah. Absolutely. Just the Z-Z-Z-A-C bit. The Z-Z-Z-Z. The Z-Z-Z-A. The Z-Z-Z-A. Yeah. Look them up, Anzacs. Yeah, look up Anzacs. A-N-Z-A-C. Look it up. Check. Before we get into our six steps to arranging a gangbang, I wanted to just say thank you very much.
We've had a few emails lately, actually more this month than I think we've had in quite a number of months, and some new podcast reviews. So thank you, guys.
Appreciate you reaching out and sending those lovely, delightful little messages about what's happening in your world yes and wherever you are around the world so thank you for that coming up after the show i just want to clarify the the way to pronounce bunderberg because after the show today i'm going to give you guys some audio and it's from west of west over in canada who wanted to make these down under mules and they were so delightful to leave us a voicemail on our website, and I played it to Daryl three times because the way that Bundaberg was said just cracked me up. I loved it.
I think it was like Bundaberg, right, if I'm not wrong, which sounded very German. I don't remember. You don't remember? No, sorry. So Bundaberg is how you say it. Bundaberg is a suburb of Queensland in Australia, so there you go. It's not a suburb. City? Yes, so there you go. It's not a suburb. City? Yes, it's a city. Come on, man. Really, is it, though? By Australian standards, yes. It's definitely not a town. I grew up in a town. It's a city. You reckon it's a city? It's got 30,000 people in it. All right. That's by Australian standards, it's a city. All right. Calm your tits.
Calm your tits, Sarah. Oh, man. I do love the way that you butcher sayings. Oh, yeah? You like it? Yeah, like calm your tits. Calm your tits, Daryl. Oh, man, I do love the way that you, like, butcher sayings. Oh, yeah, you like it? Yeah, like, calm your tits rather than cool your jets. Hey, as always, we're going to get into some Would You Rather random questions with Daryl before we kick into the episode today. So have fun, listen to those. We're coming up back again soon. By the way, I get brutalised by these every time.
I have nothing to do with these daryl good morning would you rather see me have sex with somebody who is dominant or would you rather see me dominant a more submissive man in the bedroom male i'm talking about specifically i don't have a preference you don't have a preference whatsoever for Just enjoying? Yeah. That surprises me. Why? Because the whole, like, you'd like to see me fucked, I would imagine that that's an element of, like, you'd like to see a more dominant person. You can also fuck yourself. Interesting. Okay. I'm sure it's interesting for somebody. It's interesting to me.
Oh, good. And that's what matters. Okay. That's what I'm saying.
I'm going to work yeah okay all right bye wait so you go on the 10 seconds into the next room i'm walking up the stairs you're going to transit to work yep okay have fun i didn't put a shirt on before i arrive at work did you buy a new train transit ticket to get up there or what yeah i've just got to swipe it through your pussy see instantly i was like that sounds quite painful so don't do that yeah i mean you could end up with like paper cuts yeah yeah don't do that all right hey babe what would you rather would you rather stepping out of your bed onto a luscious rug that's like makes you just super happy to wake up in the morning and feel joy in your life there is no reason i would ever wake up super happy in the morning or god could reach down and jerk me off and i would still wake up unhappy or stepping out of your bed onto a spiky spike blood-filled mat depends is the blood yours no it's like i don don't know, bad blood.
Bad blood. Ooh. Not bad blood. That sounds terrible. Half of it is like wolf blood. Coagulated. I don't know. So what's your choice? Taking the blood. You're taking the spiky, spiky death spikes. Spiky death blood. Why is that?
Because it would wake me up in the morning, so, you know, I'd be all alert alert and stuff versus you just don't want a fucking rug in the bedroom just admit it i've freely admitted that more than once to you and you still won't fucking listen so i'm taking the blood it's comfy and classy babe there's nothing classy about that might as well put a rug in front of the toilet that's disgusting why you're gross why gross. Why? Gross. Why's it gross? You're gross. Daryl. Yes, Kate.
Would you rather participate in the gangbang or have to sit in a chair blindfolded at the gangbang and you can only hear the noises? Participate. Really? Yes. You wouldn't want, like, the sensory version of... No....being restrained or anything like that? No. Hmm. I'd like to watch. I mean, as soon as you take away the visual part of it, I'm not interested. What about playing in the gangbang or sitting in a chair, no blindfold this time, but not being able to participate? Either or. Right, okay, so that's just the blindfold. Yeah, the blindfold's the problem.
But you would like to see it, but not have to participate, not fussed. It's not that I'm not... Is my pussy not good enough for you? Well, I mean, you know, I've been around it for a while now, it's like 10 years now. I think it's like 12 or 13. Yeah, I know. So, I mean, like, you know, maybe get a new pussy or something. Okay, I'll get a pussy overhaul. Yeah, not an overhaul. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. Just get a new one. Just a new one. Yeah, just clip her out. Clip in a new one. Yeah, big faff boff. Show on TV, dummy. Yeah. Nice. Thanks, Daryl. No problem. Love you.
All right, guys, we're back. Let's get into it. Six ways to arrange a gangbang, right?
Now, by the way, Daryl, have you ever heard the term sex fest term sex fest no so in my search of looking at various things online about gangbangs which by the way if anybody actually ever finds my internet search history the stuff that's going to be there is going to be a bit ridiculous but i heard somebody say i don't like the term gangbang and instead now we're gonna we're calling it sex fest and that's what they do in their town with all of their people at their local club they call them sex fests rather than gangbang hang on is that a gangbang or an orgy that's no it's gangbang you sure yep so the but the sex fest was like it sounds like it's with multiple multiple like people's ladies yeah i know okay i'm confused okay let's move on well i mean i don't understand why people have a problem with the term gangbang.
That is... Because they do. Because they do, right. That's the reason why. But that's, I mean, you raise a good point, the difference between an orgy and a gangbang. Let's talk about that. So gangbangs for you, how many men in your mind need to be involved in a gangbang? Three. Three including you or three... What do you mean? Three. Just three total. It's just three people, three men. Three. Or three, yeah, three men. Three men need to be involved in a gangbang. Well, in a female gangbang, yes. Yep. I mean, if it's a male gangbang, then four men because it's three plus one. Okay.
I like how you did your math there. You didn't even have to kick off a shoe. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I live to make you happy. You do. So number one in the six steps of arranging a gangbang is why are you actually doing the gangbang, I think. That is first and foremost, like ultimately what's in it for you both. I think there needs to be an understanding of that because I think that is going to dictate how the actual gangbang is going to pan out, you know what I mean? Is it a fantasy that you're fulfilling between you and your partner? Is it a fantasy that you just have?
You know, what is the actual intention of it? Don't you think that's really important to begin with, Daryl? I suppose so, yes. I mean, it depends on whether somebody wants to be aware of the fact that you're organising a gangbang or not. Well, but I think, yes, but ultimately... What if they say, well, I want a gangbang, but I want it to be a surprise in an alley beside our favourite bar? But that's still part of the discussions of why you're doing the gangbang, right? Like why are you actually doing the gangbang? Pretty fucking short discussion, but, yeah, I suppose I get we out.
It can be a short discussion, but I think critical to this, I liken it to Lego, right? Lego? Yeah.
Because there's six holes in a Lego and and six things to fill it no but that's really good that's actually not why because obviously there's different lego pieces but that's quite clever yeah no i think because like this is the foundation like why are you doing the gangbang is the foundation i think that you're going to throw everything else on top of it and if that's a bit wishy-washy then i think you're fucked to be honest you've probably well Well, I mean, getting fucked is kind of the required outcome of a gangbang. Dude, that was beneath you. Like, that joke was beneath you.
Well, I mean, yes, but... You've been hanging out with me on weekend. That's the problem with you. I know. Rubbed off on you. It's like hell. All right, so that's number one, I think, the foundation.
Number two for me is what do you want, and this is where you come in with what you just said, Daryl, like your limits what are your boundaries and buddy rules so for example if you've been having those discussions and this is where number two comes in and I said to you don't want to know what a gang bang we're both we're both on board with that we've got the bottom Lego block or the Lego land green grass thing and then the next thing is I feel like you should change your what you're using here I don't think Lego blocks is a good thing I think foundation and building blocks is kind of where you're at all right fine so that sets the foundation okay that's the conversation the foundation yeah and then the next block let's say the and we're back to Lego okay hold on no and by the way I'm pretty sure that the you know the company that uses that trademark may be a little upset with us using that term in this podcast.
I also debate that plurals of Lego is Legos. It's not. It's just Lego. So all those people out there that are like, I stood on Legos. You didn't. You stood on Lego. Yeah. Can we all disagree on that? I realize this is not a Lego podcast, but I'm just saying, like, help me. Are you sure? Because it's starting to feel like one. Okay, so, yes, the foundation. And then the next thing is, like, what do you want out of it? Now, if this is where your partner says to you, don't want to know, you go off and do it, then that's part of your, like. Go off and do it or go off and sort and set it up?
Maybe it's both. Maybe she wants you to have a gangbang and she doesn't want to know about it.
Or maybe she wants you to go off and have a gangbang and then report back and be part of a gangbang you don't know might not be for her yeah you're right i don't know you don't know it's getting really fucking confusing though already that's what i do know i'm not so let's just let's just say from here on in we're going to we're going to limit this to a gangbang for me a gangbang for females shall we all right and using the standard you know terms for male and female okay that works for me work for you all right so number two fuckers they've gotten less confusing for me what do you want what are your limits what are your boundaries what are your rules so some of the things that i thought about was what kind of people that do you want there what number what type start considering how you want the play to take place as personally i, I think you're going to need this later when you're thinking about logistics.
That's my kind of… You have to think about logistics. I mean, you've got to figure out how many lubes you need, condoms. Well, you're skipping ahead of you. Tequila. Yes, yes, all those good things. Consider even writing it down, what you want, right? And if you're not sure what you actually want to happen or to take place or whatever, I think go and maybe watch some gangbang porn and then sit down and go. I wouldn't advise that. You don't reckon? A bit too scary? A bit too full on? Yeah. Gangbang porn's pretty fucking frightening. Well, it is for me.
I think it's really full onon like generally now everything's about throat fucking and and like anal double anal hand fisting and shit it's it seems to be that it's gone to a very extreme place now true and i think well again maybe people want that so maybe that's a good place to start is like certainly the um 18 to 24 year old boys that are sitting at home watching really do want that yes they want that but it is a good thing i mean consider consider what you want consider how it's going to look in your head into that range please send me an email and you know what what's going to be something you want to do to see at should we actually just start a complaints at swinging down under email could Could do.
Like an info ad but a complaints ad. What does it look like and what's a clear no for you? So like if there's something that's completely off the table for you, this is a really good time to be talking about it between you and your partner, like what are the limits, what are the boundaries? And that's regardless of whether they're going to go off and arrange this without your knowledge or whether you're going to be involved in it.
Yeah, the old safe word might be an idea as well if you were going to be you know together at the same time yeah i'd agree so that a safe word yeah definitely um just a tip fist fuck my ass is not a good safe sentence no that's not a great safe sentence no especially if i have to say it yeah you reckon yep and i think you can you can definitely add to this or subtract from it later but it's it's i think this is critical because without actually explaining this your partner could go off and start arranging something that may be just completely out of your wheelhouse um or you the flip side of that is you're you may not get what you want and if you want something very specific then they need to understand that now so they can help with arranging that but without it you're up shit's creek without a paddle yeah it could be quite literally yeah i mean i mean obviously anal is a discussion that needs to be having in this second tip here what do you want what do you limit boundaries and rules well yeah i mean if yes if certainly if you're not interested in it that's for sure yeah to back out one might say and because you need to then and this is why i say it's part of the it's part of the first blocks really the the construction the building construction because some of these things that you're actually possibly even writing down could then be used later when you're actually talking to the guys to make sure that they're okay with it as well um because for example you might want anal and they might not want to do anal or the flip side you might be completely no anal and they really love anal so they're not going to be compatible in that regard right yeah well i mean that comes down to who you're inviting and and the like you know you gotta be very well i know i'm probably skipping forward aren't i so only to the next one though so the next one is the vetting and i think this is a huge part of arranging gangbang.
Like this step is one of the biggest, I think, steps as, you know, once you understand the why you're doing it, the second one is what do you want, what do you limit, the third one, the vetting. This is what takes the time, I think. Now who's going to do it? You know, am I vetting? Is Daryl vetting? Do I get a say in it? What involvement do I want, if any, right? Do you think, Daryl, that tips for vetting a gangbang are different for tips Thank you. is Daryl vetting? Do I get a say in it? What involvement do I want, if any, right?
Do you think, Daryl, that tips for vetting a gangbang are different for tips for vetting a general single guy for an MFM? And tell me why. What are your thoughts? Yes, I think it is because you can't be everywhere in a gangbang situations.
You can't be watching everyone at the same time i think especially if you want you know four plus guys there you have to be at least somewhat comfortable that these guys are not going to do something that you have asked them specifically not to do or do something sneaky that you know you you've you don't expect so i think it's i think it's more important much more important so do you think that the level of safety and consideration then is greater during a gangbang that it might just be for a threesome because you've got an ability to watch one guy to see if he is doing some like stealthing for example and taking the condom off so you what you're saying is that you think that the level of trust and consideration for these guys needs to be much more yes okay that's that's really interesting i i understand what saying.
I hadn't really thought about it before, but it definitely makes sense, you know. I don't know. And in my head I'm like, is this because it becomes almost a feeding frenzy? You know what I mean? It's like when lions are eating something and then they see another lion eat something, and they're like, yeah, food. Is that what you think? People can't control themselves because it's like a feeding frenzy? No, not at all. Not at all? No, and I'm not sure lions are the best example of a feeding frenzy. I mean, most people would probably go to sharks if they're thinking feeding frenzy.
Okay, well, you don't like any of my analogies on the episode today. I know, they're actually, I mean, you are running on an empty today at the moment. So I would say not a feeding frenzy, just an opportunity.
Okay if you have untoward ideas the opportunity that's there affords you the ability to potentially get away with that okay so there's a greater risk involved in your mind as well i think so yeah okay tell me about so potentially potentially yeah say for example that we want five guys including you so four guys that you're going to try and have in the gangbang room yeah how many are you vetting tell me about that all of them no no I mean um let me see how how many do you start to try and engage with to then get to a smaller number to then make plans with x number to end up with four in your bedroom tell me through that process so it depends it depends on the way you go forward with it, I suppose.
The way I did it was nothing at all to do with me doing all the vetting. I did it the lazy man's way. So I did it the lazy man's way because I knew somebody who I knew had organized an orgy in the past.
So I spoke to him and had him him asked him if he could put forward some guys that would be a good fit for the scenario so you're suggesting that you didn't vet any single one of them oh i vetted the guy who well sorry we we know the guy obviously who actually did the did the vetting on my behalf so you trusted him to select absolutely i mean we've we've played with him in the past and he's an awesome guy and so we yeah we we basically there's a trust associated with that i know he's done this sort of thing in the past so that's why we went that way and so you trusted him inherently with everything including like sti testing like just every like whether or not i'd like them whether or not they're decent guys.
You just threw this guy. Well, I didn't – I wasn't too – so STI testing is something that I wasn't going to ask people for anyway. I mean, it's not – the reason I say that is because it was going to be as safe an engagement as we would normally have.
So – I think it's really interesting that you just kind of threw it – I knew that you had that you were working with but i'm i didn't throw it completely out i still spoke to the guys and and asked them you know just had some small conversations via text and stuff to make sure that they weren't psychopaths but i trusted the guy that was that that we were talking that i was talking to to help me organize the event so you know why would i why would i then go back through and do all of the all of have all of these conversations again to make sure that these you know that that what the guy was telling me was the case because they'd been involved in other gangbanks that he'd organized in the past so not only did they know the gangbang but they also knew from his you know conversation with me is that they also knew that they were required to meet certain expectations so they all knew that well there are actually some services to to use for people that do this sort of thing but before i get onto that i i thought about you know i wanted to be helpful and i think there are some questions that you can ask the guys when you are arranging and vetting them.
And, I mean, it's going to be pretty damn similar to when you're trying to find a single guy for an MFM anyway. So, like, some of the questions that popped into my head at the last minute here would be, what is your experience with doing a gangbang before? You know, I think that's a question that we tend to ask people anyway, especially if they're having a threesome.
But inbang situation again I think there's a desert it's a different level right so I would be well that's why we were going with that's why I was going with guys that I knew had already been in this situation before and had followed the rules in that situation yeah because I think that having some experience with this is definitely going to be something that one would imagine would put them at the top of the pile to be honest you know and maybe even they could afford use if this is your first time arranging a gangbang they could actually probably help you with like some understanding of the logistics or whatever you know you might even be able to pick their brains about it so i think that's definitely you know a tick the other thing is as always i think like you know even with a threesome situation you've got the whole like being around other men comfort level of being naked in a room with other men and I think that you know with touching other men or the slipping of the accidental maneuver I think that that is heightened on steroids during a gangbang so really when you want to make sure that these people are going to be completely okay with the fact that if she is currently engaged with two or three other guys you might be there naked as well standing on the edge of the bed and understanding that you know hey cocks are going to be out right that's why it's important to have people who've been involved in this sort of thing before i think if you if you have vetted people or they have been vetted or have been involved in this and have done well in it previously then it immediately adds some credence to their capability to deal with that sort of thing yeah now recently we were having a discussion about when we were doing this episode and I said that there's a number of different groups and organisations now that actually arraigned gangbangs on your behalf.
Yes. Now, a quick scan of the internet and Red Hot Pie, the dating site down in Australia. I knew that these two groups existed already, but I found an actual third one. There's not hundreds, there's tons. There's quite a few of these, but there are a number that seem a little bit more, I would say, professional is not the right word, but they seem like they're a little bit more organized perhaps than some of the others. So there's one here that's XTC gangbangs, as in X-T and then C, but meaning the word ecstasy gangbangs. Well, thanks for spelling that one out. Thank you very much.
Well, I'm sure that was, was i'm sure just about everybody missed that and these guys actually will arrange a gangbang for you so here's what they say they said ecstasy gangbangs we'd like to bring quality and full enjoyment out of fantasy gangbang scenarios with a 15 years experience organizing gangbangs around the world our coordinators can help you tailor make your evening that was pretty cool i thought yeah i would agree i think it's i think it's important to find the right people to organize these sorts of things if that's the way you want to go would you hesitate using a you know the person that you were speaking to in perth you know you said before you knew him we've played with him before you had a level of trust there how would you feel about using an organization like this i would be less i'd be way less confident less confident let me just let me just pause on that too on um Hot Pie, you can leave people reviews and they've also got a Twitter site and stuff like that.
And the reviews on Red Hot Pie are quite good and they're also mentioned often in the forum. So does that matter to you, seeing that? Does that give them a level of, again, like professionalism or creedness to the fact that they do a good job? To some degree. And the main reason behind that, though, the main reason for my lack of faith in that is that that sort of thing can be quite easily fake these days as well. So it depends on them. It depends on how they would interact with me in a lot of ways, rather than what their interaction with social media is.
I can pay hundreds of people to positively review my business if i wish to interesting i don't i don't trust social media is what i'm saying the other one that's commonly mentioned is the gangbang bros and it was funny in the forum somebody said wait a second are they actually brothers and somebody was like dude no like come on come on man and this one is interesting because this is for under 40 under 40s so it says, we're a group of guys under 40 who arrange straight and bi-friendly gangbang where we cater to girls, couples, and multiple guys' fantasies.
We take the frustration out of organizing your own gangbang by organizing the guys, booking and setting the venue. All you need to do is share your fantasy with us, decide how many guys you want and turn up. Nice. I think this is a pretty goddamn easy way to go, if I'm honest.
Like how long would you say if you were vetting the guys if you didn't have a lot how many hours do you reckon you would have dedicated to hundreds yeah hey what i'm saying is as part of number three for the how to arrange a gangbang in the vetting section go on your local dating site have a google go to your local club and see if they even arrange gangbang nights because i tell you what being able to just go oh cool and give them a list of things of what you want and your scenario and your fantasy or whatever it is and say here you go guys and then just turning up sounds like a bloody good idea to me yeah it does provided you're you're comfortable you and your partner are comfortable with that that's the biggest thing i mean i would be less comfortable with that just for the safety factor or because you don't know if the guys are going to be you don't know who they are you don't know what their involvement with the lifestyle is you don't know what their understanding of of the safety requirements are you don't know anything about them really well i'm assuming you would do that you would provide that to the organization to say here's what i want and they would be briefing the guys and you and everything else yeah i also buy cars from somebody and expect the car not to break in the first week but you know that still happens sometimes true true enough and then the last one i found online is actually in east melbourne so the other two guys are in new south wales and they didn't mention anything about cost or pricing this the reason i'm mentioning a third one now so it's the playpen and they they're in East Melbourne and they do arrange private parties and they charge $200 for, I guess, some admin fees and the venue and stuff like that.
So I wouldn't mind paying. I would have no qualms at all with paying for this level of service personally. I don't see a problem with it. Does that make it feel sex worker-ish to you or how does that feel? No, not at all. I think the issue there that I have is that you wouldn't have any qualms with paying that sort of money for something like this to work. I just, I don't know, I find it concerning that it could potentially not work and then the outcome would be disastrous. What do you mean by that?
Well, so in the conversations I had with the person who helped us or me organise the gangbang, he had a vested interest in your happiness, right, because he knows you, he knows us, he's been involved with us in the past. So he had a vested interest in that. There's nothing to say these businesses have the same vested interest. Okay, I got you.
So using that car analogy again, you know, if you're buying a car of your best mate, they're more likely to be going to tell you that there's a small oil leak in it versus somebody else who's just going to be cleaning it up and then off your drive kind of thing. Yes, absolutely. Like it's good enough, not perfect, if that's what you mean. Yeah, okay. I got you. I got you. All right, so that's the vetting, right? Number four is logistics, which is, you know, one of my favourite OCD topics, logistics. I love logistics. How do you feel about logistics just generally? I hate them. You hate them.
Do you like saying the word logistics? No, not at all. I do. I love it. I know you do.
So in here I've got like where are you hosting, what do you need, get a list together of all of the stuff that you're going to need on the night because you alluded to this earlier this earlier stuff that you need it's it's a lot right so hotel room or the suite is it big enough is it going to cater to everybody like where are you actually going to be hosting this or is it in house or their house or a club you know are you doing it there using setting ups obvious condoms lube all the things that you would normally take to a swingers event yep fine that's pretty obvious i got douche here daryl what.
What? Tell me why I got douche. Oh, you don't have douche. You have a douching kit is what you have, not douche. Yeah, but tell me about. Well, it's just in case you wanted to clean up for anal, basically. Yep, so that's part of the logistics, right? Toys, lingerie, you know, whatever.
My question to you is I've got time in in here under the logistics item when you were arranging this gangbang was there an idea around how long i know you've got a theme and we'll talk about that in a little while but how long each person would be maybe interacting maybe because again if you've got five people and it's like say 10 or 15 minutes each do you know what i mean that that goes out so does this is that something you've just given an indication of how little gangbang porn you've actually watched there to think that that's the case i mean it's it's generally within short minutes that that happens you know they're not stretching this out so it's i didn't have anything in in mind no it was entirely you know it was entirely up to you and whether you were enjoying it if you weren't enjoying it i mean all of the guys were aware that if if it was called then it would be called whether they'd been involved with you or not it didn't matter it wasn't about them they were they needed to understand that they were there as part of the support act not as the act itself and in terms of logistics as well one of the other things i had in here was like a group chat between the people um and maybe the person who's organizing it so again if you don't if as the female if i didn't want to be involved like obviously i would not be in that group chat and it would be daryl but to have a group chat where it's like almost a bulletin board where you're just saying this is a go this is the go this is what's happening you know i think that's good and you you had one of those going with the guys didn't you yeah absolutely i i wouldn't treat it any differently than what I'd treat any other event that you and I would go on.
You know, everybody, we kind of need to chat to people first, make sure that everybody's okay with what's going on.
Yeah, and with the guys as well, I think you were sending a few photos of me and stuff like that, but it wasn't exactly like it's a chit-chat of like happy Friday, you know, like how was your weekend?ay motivation or you know all that sort of stuff who the fuck has those chats lots of people i'm part of a group and i woke up the other day and i was 650 new messages and it was like morning and this is this is why i'm not part part of chats like that i just yeah i just deleted it all um so yeah so that's kind of the logistical side of it.
You know, I mean, look, it's pretty obvious, but I think there's some things in there you need to consider, like, for example, are you going to be actually douching or something like that because you obviously need to get all the different equipment. You need more lube, multiple lubes as well. You know, you can't just have your standard one lube that you normally take to your swingers' event.
You now need four or five of them to be placed around the room, know well yeah i mean i planned on putting one in every person's hand yeah just to make sure that we had the capability for for each guy to actually use lube every time a guy was potentially interacting with you yeah and uh you know just having having that around as well i think having that many around as well it a bit more handy, obviously. But then also I think it stops the continual transmission of all the different fluids around the place as well.
Because if somebody's using their hand on you and then swapping over and doing another lube and then touching another lube that another guy's touched or whatever, I think, again, it's just more of a concern about the pH balance of your pussy, you know, making sure that that's all right which by the way speaking of ph balance again talking logistics and getting ready i mean that's something that you need to take into consideration too because if you're someone who's prone to having utis or bv or thrush after a session or swinging session let alone a gangbang you know what are you doing to your body in the lead up to this i think i actually think this is more this is more controlled you think this is more controlled than absolutely absolutely because you're using yourself it's very simple I don't know.
I don lubricant it's it's use this or don't come you know it's it's very simple you would never have that same conversation in a swinging event a swinging event you would you know generally people have their own preferences to lube their own preferences to to condoms and that's either on the guy's side or on the girl's side depending on what they're what they're interested in so for me it's real it's it's really really simple yeah i think yes and i mean it depends if you're if orals involved so all of the guys are having different things in their mouth that are then going on my pussy so there's that element especially, especially there's now five of them potentially.
So, you know, I think. I mean, one of the important things on my list of things to check was, you know, that they were personally hygienic as well. So, you know, a set of brushed teeth would be an expectation of an event like this. You're just pulling people off the street, aren't you? Like, you and Coles, you, sir, come with me. Would you like a free balloon? Yeah, no. I mean, that's, yeah, there's standard expectations there that I don't feel we need to mention right now. We don't, no. But again, going back to you as a female, as an individual, the lead up to it. Me as a female.
Me as a female. One, one as a female.
The lead up to that is, you know, do you know things that are going to put you at high risk for example for me if i go running or whatever and then i come back like i need to get the hell out of those gym clothes like straight away if i'm having sex with you in the lead up to the to the week weekend or the party you know making sure that maybe we're having protected sex so there's no fluids and getting angry and stuff like that like just simple things that i would know to do in the week leading up yeah but that's the simple things you would do prior to any potential play outing yeah i think this would be a little bit more heightened i think as well um why i don't know i just reckon i'd be a bit more on the defense like the week before like making sure everything's perfect is it just so you don't fuck people over uh maybe maybe that's what it is maybe but also it's because i think if i'm if i'm not running at my best in the week leading up to this then for sure i'm going to wake up the next morning with something going wrong and i'm going to be super pissed off so yeah maybe it's a combination of letting other people down because there's more people that you could be letting down and then also maybe it's because just not wanting to wake up and have you know no regrets you know what i mean gotcha so that's logistics number five is on the night obviously it's best to get yourself in a state of mind ready for play and whatever that looks like for you right so if it's going to have a few drinks then have a few drinks bobs okay obviously don't fucking overdo it with the drinks that's obvious that's like any other say did you just try to shorten obviously and then oh then explain what it was i did because i didn't think it was going to come through on the podcast yeah i think people would get it no they probably wouldn't I don't think it was going to come through on the podcast.
Just checking it. Yeah. I think people would get it. No, they probably wouldn't. So if it's not knowing anything about the night and having a surprise, I'd do that. I'm not cool enough to be dropping out the obs. I'm definitely not cool enough. Not young enough either. If it's treating yourself to like a manicure pedicure or whatever, whatever it is is going to make you feel like you're best on the day. And maybe that's nothing. Like maybe nothing. Like maybe you're just so casual with the flow that like, you're like, whatever, like I'll be there at six and you're just cool.
Like whatever that looks like, do that. Right. I think that's really important. And I think it's really important to check in with your partner again on the day, on the night to go through some of the rules and boundaries, make sure you set up a safe space, you know, prepare your room, do that. Yeah.
Before the play started, when you were getting ready for arranging the gangbang daryl did you have anything in mind for on the night or like what was going to happen for me during the day or how to get me in the headspace have you read the plan all right let me have a little rest a little read here so this is part of the gangbang that daryl had arranged for me these are text messages or a themed or a curated at curated evening. I have not read these because we actually didn't end up going through with the gangbang, unfortunately.
So I know Daryl and a friend from Perth put in a hell of a lot of effort into making this gangbang a reality and it didn't actually happen. And so as a result of that, I have not, one, read these messages or, two, even understand the theme. So I'm going to go ahead and read that. Now you're ready? I am definitely ready. You're bang ready for it? Yes, I'm bang ready for it. Okay. So what I mean by what have you thought about for the night that day before, like in your mind, were you sending me away to like have a lovely lunch or get a manicure pedicure or anything like that?
Like had you thought about of that side of it or was it just like a normal day for you and then this was going to happen yes of course i'd just of course i'd had a think about what the what the day before looked like and all that sort of thing because nothing but baked beans sorry i just knew that you'd want to feel you'd want to feel nice you'd want to feel gorgeous sexy you know so there's a whole lot of things that needed to go into that certainly making sure that you you would dress well you had the right things on your feet etc in terms of manicure pedicure absolutely to be sure about that yeah okay all right let's go ahead and read it so let's see here themed curated event for kate so theme kate is being audited at work and has been called to drinks at a bar to discuss with her boss after some discussion it has decided that the inconsistencies must be looked at back in the office on the ride back to the office boss says that he can make it all go away rest of the night is her trying to her way out of travel who am i with right now who's my boss out of trouble did you say that yeah out of trouble yeah it sounded like travel oh out of trouble okay who am i with who's my boss a friend who organizes the event set up i will get her dressed and send her to a bar to be agreed upon and close to the office in perth once she is there alone i will use an unknown sim to tell her that the boss will be there soon to discuss a problem with the audit.
Okay, so you're going to get another sim and everything. Yes. Okay. The bar scene. Jason, the boss, arrives to sit with her for a drink. Jason says that he has a plan to get her out of the problem, but we have to go back to the office. The car scene.
Once in the limo, Jason says, we can probably start on this solution now unzipping pants and saying you can start by sucking this the car ride will be anything other than fucking oh okay car ride will be anything other than fucking so what you're saying here is that we're in a limo and i'm with the dude and he zips down his pants and then he's saying suck my cock yes and additional to that of course you have to find a limo that's willing to allow that to happen you have to organize it with the driver and figure out how that logistically could work and had you done that yes so you found a limousine company and what did you tell them exactly so i worked with jason to figure out a company in perth that he knew had been involved in something like this in the past and so they were well aware of what was going to be going on in the back they were absolutely did you have any fears about them filming secretly filming and selling that shit on i was going to say ebay but that's not what you did fucking ebay i don't know hey maybe no i didn't have any concerns with that eho okay you didn't no why did you stipulate here that the car ride's going to be anything other than fucking because i wanted to make sure that the gangbang was the gangbang that you weren't fucked and then had the gangbang after okay so i'm in the car alone with this dude yes that's a high level of trust right there okay we've been with him before so let's move down here so hang on back up we know we know him we know him well you've had sex with him twice so you know like we know this man quite well i mean he's he's the person who's going to be he's the person who helped curate the entire event so yeah i mean it's a high level of trust before you got into the car with him the office scene kissing and play continues in the elevator into the boardroom and the auditors are waiting jason instructss Kate to suck all the cocks under the table as penance.
Once this is from that porn that we watched, well, that particular bit is. Once this has played out for a while, into the office with the lights on and blinds open. She is then told to bend over the desk. All men get naked. Brackets, please, no shirt cocking. Yeah. Good. I like that. Well, you don't like shirt cocking. I know I don't. Thanks for adding that. That's nice. As many cocks that can be in reach as one order to lift her dress and begins to fuck her from behind, dress comes off as men take turns in her pussy talking dirty about business splut, sorry, splut.
Don't say business splut during a dirty talk because that's not on. That's weird. No, nobody wants to be a splut. Nobody wants to be a splut. Business splut, this will teach you, this can move into any other location in the office. All men to possibly finish on her as gangbang is finishing. After finish, put her dress on and tell her not to speak about this at work and that she's a good slut. Put her in the car alone and head back to the hotel. Where are you in all of this? I'm in the gangbang. You are in the gangbang. Okay, right. That was unclear to me. Right. So you're in the gangbang too?
Yes. Okay. So you arranged this whole office thing because of my fantasy about an office thing, eh? Yes. I like it. And the auditing because of the fact that that's part of what I used to do for my work as well? No, that was just because it was a clear and easy way to make it work. Okay. So, no, nothing to do with what you used to do or anything like that.
It's just that it's a clear and easy way to figure out what you, you know, to get you to the location for starters and also then to make it worth, make it a requirement for you to do something, you know, well, not a requirement but also give an excuse for why these guys would be expecting you to do these things right and this is why i wanted to stop and pause and mention that actually because if if you're arranging a gangbang and as we just went through there was a theme a little bit more curated for the one that darryl was arranging for me i think that's a really good way to stop any of the awkwardness that maybe you're concerned about if five guys just turned up to your hotel room.
Well, yeah, that was the idea behind it. I mean, you had a thing that you'd liked and wanted, so it made perfect sense to do it that way. Yeah, it alleviates any of the potential awkwardness of transition because, like, everybody's then in role-play mode a little bit too and I think that that is a really, really helpful way.
If you're worried about, like, guys just turning up and you're in the room and you're like so how's it going like how was your day and yeah i mean find out find out the fantasy as well so you've got the capability to to put together something that somebody actually wants like i said the fantasy may be i just want to be taken to the alley next to our favorite bar and fucked in the alley by four or five people well then so so be it you know you just got to find the people that are willing to do that and obviously it be somewhere that it's hidden enough that you can get away with it because that that's going to take some time so it can be done you just got to think it through yeah and i guess it can be done without something as elaborate as a bar, a limo, and an office space being rented.
You know, if you'd have done this again and you wanted to reduce it. So the limo was the only rented thing out of there. Okay. The bar was not rented. It was just a standard bar, and the office space had been kindly donated by one of the friends of Jason. Right. So you could also do this in a hotel room, though. Have everybody in the hotel room pretending to have a meeting and have me walk in to the hotel room as well and walk into that. I don't know.
of jason right so if you could also do this in a hotel room though i have have everybody in the hotel room pretending to have a meeting and have me walk in to the hotel room as well and that was that was a backup plan so we had we had some backup plans as well in case things went awry on the way through because it needed to make sure that you know we had somewhere to be if there wasn't anywhere to be because one particular aspect of it fell away like for example the limo driver there was a backup for that as well yep interesting all right so that's so that's number one was why are we doing the gangbang two what do you want three the vetting four logistics five on the night which we just went through and finally number six on how to arrange a gangbang is the aftercare and the follow-up because i think i think this is extremely important and we you know a lot of people talk about aftercare in terms of BDSM or kink play, but I think that having some aftercare and follow-up after this gangbang I think is really good for the headspace of everybody involved as well.
And let me just explain what I mean by that. So I think it's a good idea to plan to have a time that the gents all leave or have another space that you can personally leave to. I think that's a really key thing here because if I was going to be doing this gangbang, say we had used one of those companies down in Sydney or whatever, I can then go, cool, it's at three, I'm leaving. You know what I mean? Or if it's in a hotel room, I would like to know that all the guys are going to be out by 10pm or something like that. That'd be personally something for me.
I think I'd really like that because then I can then start to get into a headspace where I'm like okay this is now moving along and then we're alone together right so then that's where we can start doing some aftercare and one of the things that I would really like to see in this and I was running through these scenarios in my head was that say for example we were in our hotel room and the five guys were in there and it was 10 p.m or whatever and they left I would like to go off and basically freshen up like that is obviously going to be crucial for me at this point in time um probably going to feel very you know just dirty covered in fluids well that's why you were sent straight back to the hotel right and then I think but if you were doing it in your hotel for example allowing like me the female to like go off and jump in the shower yeah and start to freshen up whilst maybe you then were like doing a bit of room tidy or grabbing a drink for us both, putting on some music or something like that.
Like I think that would be nice. I just imagine walking back out of the shower and then the room's a little bit more tidy than it perhaps was. You know what I mean? Do you get where I'm going with that or does that seem a little bit princessy? It's just pretty standard, Kate. Yeah, that would actually really be lovely for me.
Yeah, you'd like down service to come in pretty much can you imagine like calling down for room service me like hi can we get a you know can we just get a freshen up in our room like some new towels and stuff like that that'd be hilarious I can't imagine that I think that would be lovely and then I think you know having a drink together with you would be really part of the big aftercare for me and the follow-up of like that day or the next day no that night that day and that night potentially a very late night though so I'm not sure that that's feasible in a lot of occasions may may not be may not be um you know I guess it's really down to how you planned it I think that'd be a nice thing and then the other thing i was thinking was like the next day i actually think that it would be really important for you to text the guys and just say like thanks and i also think i know that when we spoke about of course i would be doing that i know you would be like anything else but one of the things that i thought really about was leaving them a review on the websites and i know on on an episode a couple ago when we were talking about, you know, single guys and how to find people and leaving reviews, I think you were pretty bang against leaving somebody a review.
Because some of these guys didn't have names on websites. Okay. Some of these guys were in, you know, polyamorous relationships. So it's not always applicable. Okay.
Well, when it is, or if that it's i think that i would like to be leaving leaving them some feedback on one of the websites or if it's one of the companies you know leaving them some feedback about this because to your earlier point a gangbang might be you would not have known any of these guys names well i would ask you to do it okay sorry then i would ignore you really yeah i mean i don't like doing reviews what i'll just give a double thumbs up and say good shag so if i explicitly said to you like hey can you leave some lovely reviews you just ignore me no i'd totally do it wow you suck well i think that that would be a lovely thing to do particularly if you do use a company because i think those reviews really would matter to people who are looking and wondering whether or not they can have a level of trust they do they do matter to some people but they don't matter to me which is why i don't like giving reviews but that's it that's how to arrange a gangbang what are your thoughts i think you've made something that should be quite sexy into something that's very organized but that's just your way i think it's important though i think it's important and again like you might be sitting out there and going this seems like a lot of work or this seems like it's over the top or it's overdoing it like just have some fun and have a gangbang yeah if that's your if that's your mo if i can go for it like you do you i'm just like the way that i would do it and the way that i would want to know is prepared would be like this if i stepped into a gangbang that hadn't had the level of thought behind it that this would be, I would be very concerned about it.
Attention to insignificant detail that can potentially turn something from something very sexy into something that's very organized.
You know, like I could have sat there and organized every single facet of the evening in terms of how, you know, given everybody a name each a penetration timing and a you know or a sexual interaction timing but you've got to allow for some without fluidity it's not a it's not a fluid event you know you've got to allow for ad lib in this stuff because otherwise it just becomes regimented and timed and for for the people involved in it on the other other side, potentially very boring. I understand what you're saying.
You know, I'm wanting to make it fluid, and I absolutely agree with all of those things. And like I said, you don't need to go to this level of detail. Yeah, and I don't think you need to give people, you know, at 5.05 you will stick your cock in Kate's arsehole. I think that it still needs to be fluid.
I get what you're saying, but, like saying but like having an understanding of like how long are these fuckers going to be in the room for is probably a good good shot you know what i mean well again it wasn't that they were going to be in a our room they were going to be in a location that is away from our room so having an idea of of the logistics of how long it would go for, that doesn't play to me because if you halfway through sex with the first guy decide that you're not interested in being with anyone else because, you know, one, you've hurt your pussy, two, you're just not interested, three, you want to go home and go to sleep, then that's how it ends.
You know, there's no – this is why I'm saying you've got to be careful about how you plan this stuff because if you plan too much detail, you could actually put yourself in a situation where the expectation Thank you. There's no – this is why I'm saying you've got to be careful about how you plan this stuff because if you plan too much detail, you could actually put yourself in a situation where the expectation drives the outcome, which is not what you want. I mean, it should be fluid. Somebody should be able to make the decision halfway through.
Like one of the guys might have arrived and gone, you know what, I'm not interested in fucking your wife. Yeah.
Well, I can't then say to him, well, to him well sorry mate you know you were supposed to be inside her from 4 15 to 4 45 can you fucking get your cock hard you know like that it's not how it works it's got to be more fluid than that because everything no matter what you plan ask anyone who's ever planned a fucking wedding whatever you plan something will go wrong yeah right so one of i mean of the guys that i had invited i over invited we had extra guys because i was banking on the fact that somebody would have something happen you know like a family in emergency or something or just people being cocks and not turning up you know so i was banking on that but we we had reliable guys who'd been to events before who'd been involved involved in gangbangs before, who'd followed the rules and followed the instructions.
Rules and instructions are two very different things along the way.
So there was a level of capability associated with them, and there was a level of trust associated with them, because rather than having a reference on a website that I don't know who the fuck you are and whether you've actually been involved with this person I had a reference from a guy that I knew that we'd been involved with previously and I knew that he had a high level of organization probably to your level of standard to be honest and because he organizes events not only gangbang events but other events in in Perth as well so shout out big fella so you know I knew that that the level of person that he would be willing to bring in you know with the chance of if he brings somebody who isn't of damaging our relationship it was this is this is a much higher standard of reference than me getting on a website seeing somebody on there and going oh look they've got a reference from x somebody i don't know who has just referenced them because perhaps they're mates and they had a beer out one time or something you know like that that's the difference to me personal interactions and personal personal pride is a much bigger scenario and a much some somebody's invested in their personal brand to get to that level versus some comments on a website that can potentially mean nothing.
Yep, got it. No, I agree with what you're saying. Yep. So, you know, his standard of organising this event was way higher than mine, which is part of the reason that I got him involved. Why you outsourced it rather than doing it yourself. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a detail-focused individual. So if I want somebody who I know is a detail-focused individual to be happy, I have to find somebody who is either at their level or above it when it comes to the detail focus. So that's what I did.
Would something like, say, for example, walking into a swingers club that we're having a gangbang night and just getting amongst it, would that be something that would be part of your fantasy?
Like just, you know, cautioned, like a Friday night and just rocking up, not knowing anybody and just participating in gangbang, Would that be something that would be part of your fantasy like just you know caution it like a friday night and just rocking up not knowing anybody and just participating in gangbang would that be something that you would fantasize about for us yeah i mean i'd i'd happily see you involved in a gangbang in a in a club yes yeah like random dick is what i'm saying yes absolutely i mean unvetted random dick yeah i mean in fact even the idea of just a dark room you know or a black room for you would be exciting to me just to know what happened while you're in I'm going to show you the next one.
vetted random dick yeah i mean in fact even the idea of just a dark room you know or a black room for you would be exciting to me just to know what happened while you're in there you know that so yeah i mean i don't there there is but again you know you make the you make the assumption whether it's correct or not that people who have and they may not be single guys and you know maybe a group of guys that are there with their partners but are involved in the gangbang, you make the assumption that people who are involved in this lifestyle have an understanding of what some of the standards are for that lifestyle.
But yeah, I'd happily see that happen. I mean, it's up to you as to whether that would ever be the case though because ultimately it's your body and your choice. Well, I actually, when we go to Australia the next time in 2025, I would actually like to look at using one of these companies in Sydney or in Melbourne, actually. I would really enjoy that.
And I think actually us collectively as a couple, maybe just saying, just, and I don't want to follow the script or anything, just saying this is kind of a fantasy that we have, or this is kind of a theme to go on, and then that's it, and walking away and letting them do it, I think would actually be a little bit exciting as well. All right, guys, so that has been episode 113 on how to arrange a gangbang. Look, take it with a grain of salt if it's a little bit too much information, too much effort and involvement, a little bit too much for you guys.
If you want to just kind of play it loosey-goosey, that is totally up to you, but we hope that you found some of those kind of tips a little bit. Probably should explain why this didn't happen. Interesting.
For all the friends and fans out there well you can explain it you're the one i want you i want you to because you arranged it and and actually whilst you're talking about why it didn't happen run me through your emotions around the fact that it didn't happen well it didn't happen because you got you got your period that's what didn't happen so you know that that was well given at that point as well you were on injectionsavira, right? Depavira, which stops you from getting your period. It's just an amalgamation of bad luck, really. You know, that's what stopped it in the end.
My emotions, I wasn't emotionally invested in the event. You know, I like the idea of actually being involved in a gangbang with you or you being involved in a gangbang. I liked the idea of that and I was excited to see it play out. But like most things, I had anticipated that it may not come off or something might happen in the middle of the night that may change your mind or the theme may have not fit with you.
So I'd already dealt with the fact that it was unlikely that it would be a perfect night and that it would run the way I would have hoped so it wasn't any detriment to my to my expectation at all the only thing that I was concerned about it was that well thankfully we had enough time to tell the guys so they that we didn't spoil their Saturday night as well, you know, by not having anything on if they, you know, because we couldn't go ahead with it.
So that was the only thing that I was concerned about, just making sure that we'd given them the same level of respect and grace that we would expect if they were able to attend. 100%. Yeah. So that was the only thing.
And look they all and in the chat that Kate has a small portion of that's exactly how it played out all of them were very gentlemanly in their response and said thank you and and look if you're ever interested or ever want to organize something like this again in the future we'd really love to be involved that was basically how it all ended from all of the guys that were invited along. So their response was exactly as what I would hope for somebody who's being asked along to play effectively a part in the theme. So that's how it ended. That's how it finished.
And it finished as well as it could have given the fact that we didn't go ahead. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, thanks very much, guys, for listening. So we're going to head out now and we're going to share some audio of West of West over there in Canada making some Down Under mules. So enjoy that. They left us a voicemail. If you guys want to leave a voicemail for us, just head over to our website, swingingdownunder.com, and you can find all the links there to everything else that we do. So cheers, guys. Thanks very much for listening. Appreciate the hell out of you. Bye.
Okay, take three style mule down under taste test hi guys it's mr and mrs west from the west coast of canada we're newbie lifestylers and listeners of the swinger down under podcast we've had some canadian style moscow mules they're good ginger beer soda vodka lime juice but someone told us that in australia and new zealand it has fresh mint in it and apparently we're supposed to use a proper ginger beer bundaberg from australia so i found a local shop that sells it and i picked up a four pack today okay so we usually use the cock and bull ginger beer non non-alcoholic from the U.S.
They claim to be inventors of the Moscow Mule. Yeah, but mint, we've never heard. Okay. We've never heard of adding mint to a Moscow Mule. So I tweeted at the Swingers Down Under to ask if this was a thing. And yes, apparently it is a thing. I may have caused some day drinking down under. We hope so. Yes. So we made one of each.
Adding mint to the Moscow Mule takes it right over the top oh my god it's amazing we did find that the cock and bull ginger beer is spicier than the bunderberg but both were pick your favorite but the mint is the thing the key so the recipe for the mule down under correct us if we're wrong twitter world is that it's got ginger beer lots of mint muddled with a teaspoon of sugar and vodka some ice juice from three limes and one more lime slice for the top and mint leaves to top it all up please use fresh mint and fresh limes no cheating you have to do it right we love the podcast cnd when one day we hope to travel and to australia and we'd love to meet for a drink specifically a moscow mule down under.
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