
WANDERLUST PODCAST · Cate and Darrell
First Event, Live Porn and The First Freak Out – P02
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Welcome to Swinging Downunder podcast 2, Join us in our first event. A first spa in a club and things that “swing” you may see in a spa. We also discover that rules are not our thing and we experience our first over commitment – read freak out! Swing Soon, C&D We are a… Read more
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Speaker1: this is C and this is D and this is swinging down under so welcome to podcast to everybody we're actually going to cover off our first event in this podcast and the lead up to it and some of the exciting funny sexy things that happened during it some really unsexy things that happened during some really Some really, really funny things that happened during it. Yeah, there is some pretty hilarious stuff. You know, first time in, you tend to get things pretty wrong, realistically. Yeah, I think so. So what we want to cover off is a little bit about why we selected to go to an event, the lead up to, as Dee said. So our first event was a club here in Sydney called the couples club as we covered off in the first podcast we were talking about our time currently in the lifestyle and next steps you know where do we go from here we've started watching some porn we're interested in looking to go further into the lifestyle and so you start researching to understand a little bit more about it and one of the things that we stumbled upon were you know parties and so we started looking online googling you know swingers parties in sydney because that's obviously where we are and a few clubs came up and we started looking at these clubs and thought you know maybe that would be a nice soft entry into the into the lifestyle yeah there's a few around we selected one that you know obviously it's called the couples club so for us we thought okay that really sounds like I guess a less severe environment some clubs allow both single females which are called unicorns and single males into the club depending on the the night so we looked up this particular club and we saw that on a Friday is a newbies night and it's just purely newbie couples into the lifestyle and you know again for myself I thought okay well this is sounding something like you know might be an easy introduction there's not I'm not well, this is sounding something like, you know, might be an easy introduction. I'm not going to walk in and there's going to be, you know, 10 million people trying to grope my belly bits. You were a little concerned, though, because when you go into one of these events, everyone's a little worried about what it's going to be like. And one of the things that we'll cover off is, well, we probably should start on that now, is the nerves that were involved in it. I mean, one thing we've learned about the lifestyle, even in the six months that we've been involved, is that there is an absolutely staggering amount of maintenance required to get yourself even to the point where you feel comfortable walking into something like this i mean for me it involves a whole lot of a lot of shaving and uh i don't think that's terribly dissimilar for c although she does also go the tan and you know all these other things as well it's a nightmare it really is it really is quite lot of work. We didn't realise how much maintenance was involved in this going into it. And that's an ongoing thing. That's not just one event. So in the lead up, you know, we're getting nervous. We're starting to think, geez, what happens? What do we wear? What do we do in the evening? All these kinds of things, actually. And so we, you know, start researching, Googling what to wear to a swingers' party, and I have to say, actually,
Speaker2: it was quite a joke for us because in those initial few sites they said,
Speaker1: you know, no track pants, no joggers, no gym sweats, and we were looking at each other going, well, duh. Who would wear those out even? Who thinks that's sexy? Yeah, but not even out who wears that stuff out to to any event i mean even a vanilla event sorry for those of you might be learning along with us vanilla event is something that is not that happens outside the lifestyle with people who are not involved in it we were quite confused by a lot of this stuff on the way through so please forgive us we'll try and keep track of the jargon as we go through but yeah vanilla event yeah so who would turn up to one in sweats tracksuit pants gym clothes there is nothing couture about matching velvet couture sorry pink tracksuit i know we oh matching velvet pink tracksuit oh geez that'd be awesome we'd be the life of the party would be would be so we're looking up you know what to wear what to expect obviously on some of the websites especially when when it's a club there's photos of the different areas and and perhaps some of the playrooms, you know, what to expect. Not generally a lot of photos of people, though. No photos of people. Which is not really a surprise, but you don't know what people are wearing on the way in. So we spent a lot of time on the wardrobe. Yeah, we did actually. And just, I guess, general maintenance and upkeep, as you say, you know, what do we, how do we want to portray ourselves what do we want to wear and I guess also you know like geez what what are our plans for the evening are we going to do anything because if that is the case then obviously you need to be you need to be thinking about that as well so yeah I mean that's actually probably a nice segue into something we were going to talk about possibly a little later but our first time around and a lot of podcasts that I've listened to and also a lot of things we've read they're all about setting the rules for the couple the things you know the the unbreakables and we set some rules going in and in fact in this event we both agreed that nothing would happen we were goingflowers. And, look, we'll cover off a little later that we actually ended up, well, one of us actually ended up breaking the rule here. Yeah, I think you're skipping ahead a fair bit. Probably, but I think it's quite important to set the foundation of this. I'm getting looked at with disgust right now. But, anyway, we'll move on. Let's just go back to the playlist. She is somewhat detail-oriented, so we'll just get back to that. So do you actually remember what we did before we went to the club? No, I don't. You don't? Oh, yeah, I do. Sorry. We went to dinner at the – there was a little place. Right around the corner. So, okay, so we'll fast forward to the evening basically getting ready you know a little bit nervous having a glass of wine putting putting the face on doing the hair the whole thing and again this has taken days because three days prior I'm getting a tan I'm sorting out sorting out my manicuring you know all of these sorts of things. One of the things that we have figured out as well from all of these events is that swingers are nocturnal, totally nocturnal. The really interesting thing in that is C's generally not nocturnal type individual. So prior to all these events, there's generally some consumption of some sort of energy drink to keep you awake for the evening. Yeah, or even a nap in the afternoon. There's been known to be a nap. We're going to a swimmers party tonight. Let's just have a quick nap. Have a nana nap. Have a power nap at five. I'd like to call it a nana nap. So we're getting ready for the evening, having a nice glass wine you know talking about what to expect of the evening but i thought let's just go for a nice dinner together beforehand kind of reset ourself as a couple have a couple of drinks and kind of ease on into it which was really really funny i think yeah and it wasn't it wasn't a bad idea except again you know prior to heading to an event like this, you're also a little concerned about the amount of food you eat because there's nothing worse than walking in with a dirty great pizza stomach poking out the front of you because you just don't feel good. Well, certainly we wouldn't feel good about ourselves um you know but can I say in in the clubs that we've been to and even this time around there's a broad spectrum of people and actually I think some people would be into the pizza belly well they may they may and good luck to them especially if you took pizza in with you pizza and it was good pizza and there is some good pizza in Sydney but that's a whole whole different podcast. So let's talk about our discussions before we talk about entering the club, I guess. What were rules and what we sort of discussed? Yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, as we've stated, there was quite a lead up to this. Even before we got to the point of the grooming part of the lead up we had a lot of discussion about how we were going to deal with this who we wanted to be involved in would we take one for the team you know all these there's a whole lot of you know phrases that come up you know a lot of online profiles and a few other things that you'll you'll grow along the way. But we were really quite new to this. I mean, I think we'd probably spoken for about three months before editing the first time. I don't think it was quite that long, but it was a substantial amount of time. Yeah, yeah. And we went in with the rule that there would be no play whatsoever. That's right. We thought, let's go in. We'll have some drinks, have some conversations. Enjoy the sexy vibe. People that have been in the lifestyle or, you know, it is newbie night. So, you know, I guess at this point we're thinking, okay, we'll talk to other newbies about how they've managed to get to the point of going to a club on a Friday night. And also somewhat, I mean, we've never really found one one but we were searching for a I like to term them a Yoda couple but you know somebody who's been around this for a while who has an understanding of how things progress and we never really found anyone like that which is probably the main reason that we're now doing this podcast because we stumbled our way through and made some mistakes and we're about to cover off on on some of those even in this podcast there's a whole lot more mistakes we've made after this particular event not really mistakes probably things that we've probably looked back and we think okay well we can see how that could have been misconstrued. We could have done things better in some particular instances. Sees looking at me, you know, thinking you're about to throw me under a bus here. Not at all, not at all. So we go in with these rules, you know, we think, okay, we're not going to do anything at all. There's going to be no touching, no kissing. We're just going to go there there have some drinks have some conversation yeah this understanding that this basis of the rule that we've set means that there's no need to set any other rules that's right because it was i mean we weren't even planning on having sex ourselves in in the club or at the event i think we said that we were possibly open to it but we weren't too sure and we just kind kind of assessed maybe if the mood's swaying. Swaying, no pun intended. We might kind of have a little bit of fun together, but certainly it was not something that was a definite. No, not at all. There was nothing definite about this evening with the exception of the rule. So we go along yeah some dinner we go along we have some dinner we enjoy each other's company which was great company yeah we go around to actually what we now know to be this club on a friday and i don't know each of the two clubs have been two or three now actually have all got buzzers of little cameras at the time yeah absolutely they want to expect the goods on the way in which is fair enough i mean it's to keep single guys out and Thank you. have all got buzzers with little cameras at the time. Yeah, absolutely. They want to expect the goods on the way in, which is fair enough. I mean, it's to keep single guys out. I suppose people just wandering around pressing door buttons. That's right, yeah. So at this point I'm in a dress and I can't remember what else. It was a little bit cold because I was wearing quite a substantial jacket. We had to get some cash out for the entry, so we went into a very seedy pub around the corner to get the cash. Right next to the location, there's a restaurant with some diners outside who clearly know what the deal is because the minute that you're walking anywhere near that door and the buzzer, there's whispered interest. Yeah, absolutely. So I suppose just to give a bit of insight on what we actually turned up to on the night or turned up in on the night, you were in a body contouring dress, which is one of my favourites. It shows off all your assets. Yeah. A nice set of heels, again, one of my favourites. Something we did miss did miss here though we also packed for the spa because we had planned that we'd get into the hot tub this is quite this is in general so a lot of these places especially in australia we've been a little bit different overseas but here in australia you take your own alcohol so it's a by alcohol situation situation so generally speaking you've got a bag of some description you're packing some protection you've got your condoms you've got some alcohol you may have a bit of lingerie you may have you know a bit of a bag of tricks really so yeah because certainly some of the clubs in here in sydney are certain areas are effectively lingerie only or lingerie or or down areas. Dressed down areas. So, you know, you have to take that along with you. But our first time into this event, you know, we'd already contemplated hitting the spa or the hot tub. And unfortunately, I suppose the decision was made that we'd take some swimmers with us. You know, bathers, brought along a very, very small bikini, but still a bikini nonetheless. I had a pair of board shorts with me. Now, we'll get to some funny parts to that story. I mean, that's pretty funny to start with because, frankly, if you're getting into a spa or a swingers club, you're getting in nude, aren't you? Well, yeah, you know that now. We do know that now. We didn't know that at the time. Clearly I missed a memo on that originally. Yeah, I think we all missed a memo on that. So just anyone, I mean, you can wear tops. You can wear some bikini. Yeah, you can, of course. I mean, you do what you want. You can wear what you you want that's right that's the glorious thing out there that are listening to this right now if you are going to a club with a hot tub or a jacuzzi or a spa just if you feel more comfortable wearing a bikini the first time around you can just throw that bad boy on throw it on yeah absolutely so we're not we're buzzing on the door we get let into the first downstairs entry area and again a lot of these places have a separate little area where you sign in and pay the money and do do what you need to do before you get into the main area yeah greeted by a lovely host s to be honest don't really remember her probably a little bit too nervous at the time I think you'd be the same very very nervous so they generally take your details down they'll take your alcohol and and number that and they'll give you a locker key so every club that we've been to you're allocated a locker for the evening to store your personal items yeah the locker key is a great idea because of course as we said we we packed some stuff and we took that and put it in the locker a good place for it the locker key also generally here in australia in sydney has a rubber band or a hair tie attached to it which is really quite handy for the ladies when they get into the spa they can tie the hair up with the locker key tie which you know it seems to be the way things are done there's an awful lot of women wandering around sounding like santa claus though with their jingling little hair yeah do you remember walking up the stairs no i don't oh i do uh butterflies were going this so the hostess is leading us up the stairwell oh sorry they give you an introduction to the're about to get to that, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah, sorry. You know, generally they say, is this your first time? And obviously your trembling voice, you know, at this point possibly, depending on how you're feeling, you know, you kind of go, yep, this is our first time. They will offer to take you around to the club. I might also mention actually we got there quite early. Yeah, the club opened at 8.30 and I think we buzzed at 8.31. No, we waited until about quarter past nine. Oh, did we? Because I remember we were in the restaurant and you suggested maybe we should go and I said, let's have one more drink. Just one more to calm the nerves. Yeah, and start chatting. So we're walking at the stairwell and into, I guess, the main area, which is just the entry area where generally there's not a lot of play going on. It's fairly tempered at this point. The bar is there. And we walk around and have a little bit of a look. Yeah, so the hostess was kind enough. And, again, it seems to be fairly standard practice for every club. They gave us a tour of where everything is, you know, where's the play areas, where isn't, what the closed doors mean, which for those of you who don't know, closed door generally means that it can't be open. There's a voyeur room in there. I'm trying to think of what else was in this club. It's a little wide back now. So the upstairs area has an outdoor terrace. It has a pool table and a pool room. It has a pole, so a stripper's pole, and some couches kind of surrounding in a bit of a U-shape, so it allows for talking amongst multiple couples and then kind of another little balcony closed-in area with some couches and some dark corners and those sorts of things as well. And downstairs is the play areas. There were a couple of rooms, double rooms, where the doors can be closed. There was a larger room where multiple players allowed your locker room and then the jacuzzi or hot tub area. Wow, you've really memorised that. Well done. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like it's etched into your mind. Oh, yeah. Is etched a good word?
Speaker2: Maybe.
Speaker1: So we head upstairs. We get a drink. We get a drink from the bar. Yeah, from, I might say, there was two people manning the bar. Guy and a girl.
Speaker2: There was a guy and a girl. Yep. Both fairly young. I mean, he would have been. Twenties, middle, middle twenties. Mid-twenties, mid-twenties. And so we had a drink, we kind of, you know, doing the wide eye, having a look around but not really turning your head as much or just peeking around who's here. And we see see the pool table and we think okay well this is actually quite a an easy easy in for us we're not going to be sitting around or standing around awkwardly we'll just get our drink and we'll just have a have a game pool and and look we play pool basically every time we're in a pub anyway so it works pretty well for us so it was it was a nice relaxed way to get involved absolutely absolutely at this point i think we were probably the only people in the club no there were about five couples or a few people out outside having a cigarette i think there was a couple on the balcony area okay but yeah it was it was scarce let's just say that okay so again your memory reigns supreme um so we're playing again pool yeah and um another couple asked whether they could join and play pool with us yep so they were a younger yeah sort of uh again probably same age same age yeah 2030s i suppose yeah guy and girl look we we spoke with them while we were playing pool they were really quite quite a cool couple very interesting to chat to to be honest i don't remember a lot of their detail because we're looking six months back now i remember a fair bit about them i know that they were together for a few years he was a fly in fly out person so not at home minor every weekend i believe she was something to with education so i mean it was just it's pretty standard we're playing cool we're chatting yeah you could have been at any pub on the planet nothing sexy at this like nothing sexy at this point in time no kind of innuendos floating around so what happened next though was what was really outside of my i was not expecting this at all actually actually. Do you know what I'm about to talk about? No, I don't remember. Go. I was bending over in my very short gold bandage dress, taking a shot, and the young bartender was walking past, and he obviously saw an opportunity to be sexy slash try to be funny, probably, and also just also just quite frankly get a feel up. He certainly got a bit of that. He did. So he was trying to, you know, pretend to put me off my game and I was having none of that because at this point I was kicking some ass on the table. He didn't put you off your game at all. The interesting thing though is I was blindingly surprised for one that he'd do that. Without asking? Without asking.
Speaker1: And the second thing, I was blindingly surprised at how well you just sucked it up.
Speaker2: Yeah.
Speaker1: Like I said, I was taking a shot. I was pretty sure I was on the black ball even. She was committed. She was on the eight ball and she was committed.
Speaker2: That's the game. Yeah.
Speaker1: So he was absolutely focused. He comes over, he's crouching down, I'm bent over and taking Thank you. She was committed. That was the game. She was on the eight ball and she was committed. That's the game. Yeah, yeah. So he was absolutely focused. So he comes over, he's crouching down, I'm bent over and taking a shot and starts rubbing his hands up my legs, up further on the inside of my thighs and up a little bit further underneath my dress. Did he actually make it to? No, of course not. Oh, I'm just curious. I mean, I was at at the other end of the table i only saw him touch your knee yeah so everyone was kind of laughing at this point in time uh he was joking around i i remember that i actually took the shot and sunk the ball so that was all very well and good and after that that's when we more people are coming at this point but we actually failed to notice because we were so engrossed in the game and talking to this couple that we didn't really notice a lot of the more people that were just coming into the club. And also the play that had started happening in areas, it was very, it was quite confronting actually when we walked out of that pool area. I still remember walking into the main open bar area and there was a guy being ridden by a girl just sitting on the chairs in the corner, you know, and I truly, you know, it was like we were walking out of a pub, any pub on the planet, into a porn show. It's really quite amazing. It's such a differential a differential again first time around you know yeah so the next step for us i suppose was to we spoke about taking a sort sorry going for a spa no no you're skipping ahead again i'm always ahead and go okay so after we were playing pool for a bit actually we had the attention of of another couple that joined the room and were kind of starting to bring this sexy conversation to the table. So they were talking about how sexy we were all playing pool and basically that they, you know, wanted to join in. And I think they were a little bit older, so we weren't neither the other couple or us. We were kind of not really that interested. Yeah, I think they were probably in their 50s, I would think. Yeah. But I have to say, they were very respectful. Oh, 100%. And I was quite impressed with the fact that the male of that couple actually came to me and said, I just want you to know that your partner looks stunning in the dress she's wearing and that was that was the end of the conversation you know I thought in any other club or pub in Australia C would generally make it about five meters in before she starts getting felt up by random guys and this club where sex is the let's say the the goal maybe not the goal but certainly part of the the experience yeah it's a high potential you at this point had been touched by the bartender and realistically he was kind of joking around he didn't mean any harm by it it just took us by surprise i suppose because suppose, because we were quite new. Yeah, so we're talking and playing cool. By this time, we're starting to have some sexy conversation about why we're there and what we kind of want to get out of the lifestyle when we get summoned. You know, the lights start to go down, some music gets louder and there's some disco lights shining around the place, and we get told to enter the main area where the bar is. How did I forget this? Not sure.
Speaker2: Wow.
Speaker1: Old age creeping up, babe. For all of you out there, yeah, my 40th birthday would have been nearly a month ago now. Yeah, but C likes to remind me. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. would have been nearly a month ago now. Yeah, but C likes to remind me. Yeah, absolutely. So we head out, we take a position on the couches and it's in a U shape. And at this point, like I said, we really started to understand that there are actually a lot of couples entering the club at this point that we've completely been unaware of. So we take a and we notice that gee the couples that are sitting in this little u-shaped couch there's three other couples and they are sexy they are same ages as us and very attractive same ages same ages they're same age as us and very very attractive and quite well presented absolutely i would agree and out comes the stripper, basically. So she joins and do you remember this now? Oh, look, I remember it, but I'm not going to run through it. I think that your memory probably will be much better at this than mine because can I say, I think you may have become the star of the off-show show. You were, like, not Broadway, but one straight back. How long was she on for? Maybe 10 minutes? 15? Yeah, yeah. 10, 15 minutes. So the stripper comes out. She's obviously taking off a lot of clothes. Hence the word stripper. Dancing around the pole. But she was also also as they generally tend to do she was involving the the crowd and i think she was down to her g-string topless with a g-string she was horribly interested in you when she came over and decided that i was the person who needed to remove that g-string out of the people in the room so So she's basically gyrating on me. The crowd hated this, myself included. I mean, I thought this was terrible. Well, I was, yeah, removing the remaining scarce underpants. Very, very small G-string. Very, very small. Sorry, G-string, thong. Thong? Yeah, thong. Yeah, we're Australian. Thongs are things that we wear on our feet. And so she's finished, and this is quite sexy, I think, as well, you know, so it's starting to really become, for us, quite a sexually charged environment. We're starting to think, okay, well, you know, we're talking around to the other couples. We're seeing a stripper. And I have to say the fact that we found the other couples very attractive in general was a very good start to that chunk of the evening.
Speaker2: Absolutely.
Speaker1: And this is where actually we noticed a couple in the background having sex on the balcony. So he was sitting on a couch in the darker area. But then after that, yeah, I thought I'd get up and have a bit of a go on the pole. You did have a bit of a go on the pole now understand C has done a basic pole dancing and also an intermediate pole dancing so she can hold her own generally. But it had been a while. It had been yeah it had been a little while it's been probably three or four years since you'd been on a pole with any sort of length of time let's just say that the crowd enjoyed everyone was pretty happy with it i was certainly very happy with it i mean sexually charged environment my girl up on a pole turning on a whole room of people. There's really no downside to that. Yeah, and it's generally always a conversation starter as well. Yeah, it is. We've found that it's a bit of a soft way in, isn't it, to get people to relax around you a little bit. So did we get to this horn again? No? Yeah, that's what happens now. Okay, sorry. So the next thing for us was the couple that we'd been playing pool with actually invited us into the sauna. Oh no, excuse me, let me step back a bit. They didn't invite us into the sauna. C decided that she would like to go for a spa. And this is where it all got a little bit interesting and somewhat dramatic in some points but I'll let C tell you this story because it's really quite funny I'll interject every now and again with the absolute hilarious bits so I finished dancing on the pole and head back to the couches the the couches that are in a new shape with at this point four couples sitting there D is obviously chatting away to the other couples and actually you had your eye on a lady that I remember did yoga. Yeah, I don't know that I had my eye on her at this point. It was more that she was interesting. She was interesting, yeah. I mean, she was attractive. She had a distinct personality. She had a brain, you know, she was just a nice, nice girl.
Speaker2: Absolutely.
Speaker1: So everyone's chatting away pretty vigorously at this point in time, so I joined the conversation. At this point, the couple that we were playing pool with had started getting a lot closer. I remember they were, you know, really making sure that we were aware that they were interested in us. And this is not uncommon in events or clubs, actually. If you start talking to another couple or other people, they generally will tend to, I'm not going to say stake their claim on you, but they make it obvious. They make it known, yeah, which is not a bad way for it to be to be because you know it at least then gives you the opportunity to say we are interested or we aren't yeah absolutely so we're talking the the female of the couple that we're playing pool with you know is starting to really sit very close to me talking about my time on the pole how sexy she found it and I decide like hey let's let's all go down and let's jump in the jacuzzi and I suggested this and it's really quite funny because the reaction on Dee's face looking back really kind of explains why there was just such a misunderstanding or a misidea in the next section he kind He kind of looked at me and he was like, what? Like, are you serious? You want to go and get in a hot, wet environment with people that you don't want to play with? And I'd just like to say at this point, in my mind, my interpretation and where my head is at, and the i was like yeah of course i'm gonna do this it's gonna be so much fun we are just gonna have the best time and because i'm thinking we're gonna go down there we're gonna take our drinks we're gonna have a bit of a bit of a hot spa have some conversation have a drink and it's gonna be just oh yeah i mean it was you were thinking it was going to be like a cigar lounge you just sit back with your glass of chardonnay in your hand
Speaker2: I'll see you next time. going to be just oh yeah i mean it was you were thinking it was going to be like a cigar lounge
Speaker1: you just sit back with your glass of chardonnay in your hand um enjoying the conversation between us and another couple so from there we went down we went to our storage area and got ourselves I was dressed in a bikini, myself and in my board shorts. And then we walked our way to the hot tub now it's about to get awesome and see we'll run through exactly why that is awesome i'm gonna set the scene actually so the way that the hot tub is designed there's a wall that is now positioned yeah you you walk up a hallway and there's a wall that is next to it so basically as you turn the corner you are standing your knees are basically touching the corner of the edge of the hot tub yes turn the corner and that's it the hot tub is there yes correct so at this point i'm leading the charge i'm there in my triangle bikini leading the charge to the hot tub. I round the corner and I imagine at this point my eyes kind of go wide. Very wide, I would imagine. I'm standing behind C at this point. So all I see is the abrupt halt, the abrupt halt. And again, I just want to remind everybody, this is newbies night. Okay, this is Friday, newbies night. And what I'm picturing in front of me is two couples in the jacuzzi in the corner, just going at it. I mean, there is... There were cocks in mounts and there were balls of swinging there was everything swinging everywhere yep so one guy's sitting on the edge he's got two ladies in front of him taking turns at giving him a blow job while obviously one of the ladies partners watches and they're just having a good old time so I'm saying a balls deep time. They're really having a great time. So I'm standing at the edge of the koozie. They're obviously aware that I've just arrived and just I'm frozen at this point. And I think to myself... Just arrived in your triangle bikini. Yeah, that's right. And I think to myself, I'm committed now. I'm standing at the edge. If I turn around and walk away, that's just a very bizarre scenario. So I think, fine, all right, I'm committed and I'm just going to get in. Which is exactly what happened. You got in and right in and I followed right in behind you. Yeah, I'll let you take it from here. So then the couple we were playing pool with, they turned up as well. Needless to say, they weren't wearing a triangle bikini and a pair of board shorts they actually jumped on in naked which is we have found you know from this time on that is generally the way it happens so they jump on in and before you know it we're talking in there and the conversation's getting fairly sticky at this point and before you know it the young lady reaches over and plants a kiss on sea yeah that's pretty much how it started things are getting pretty vigorous in the background too i'm i'm thinking there's there's a lot of there's a lot of groaning happening i mean we're just trying to have a conversation and there's some water splashing, there's some groaning. And I think all of the newbies in the tub were doing their best to ignore the thing that was going on in the background. If I don't stare at them, it's not actually real.
Speaker2: Exactly.
Speaker1: It was like we were all pretending like it was porn in the background running, just live porn. If you just ignore it, it won't come after you. Anyway, so female of the couple, plants one on sea. And before I know it, they're actually going at it pretty firmly, pretty vigorously. I don't think going at it is the correct terminology. We were kissing. Yeah, but there may have been a little more than kissing. I think, you know, there was second base action there. There was hand on boob. Yeah, there was. But why was my boob uncovered, Dee? Yeah, I may have had a small hand in that. I did notice that it, look, there was some strings. They were flailing in the water and they just needed to be pulled and that's what happened. Thank you. noticed that it look there was there were some strings they were flailing in the in the water and they just needed to be pulled and that's what happened and i might add actually before you got one planted on you you were actually nude because the bottom were the bottom was off as well yeah and my my my board shorts had disappeared as well he decided it was a really good idea that he would basically get me naked so at this point I'm freaking out a little bit I have to say it was very unexpected oh I just love you naked I mean sue me so he takes off my bikini and I'm feeling a little bit vulnerable at this stage I could tell by the way you were taking that kiss on so horribly you know you looked almost destitute in the way you were taking that kiss on so horribly. You know, you looked almost destitute in the way you were accepting that kiss. So from there, we start mucking around. Obviously, I'm starting to kiss Dee. He's kissing me back. He's fondling my, well, everywhere. Yeah. Really? Yeah, I'm fondling you everywhere. At this point, I'm actually starting to think that the other couple's hands are getting involved because I swear, I don't know. The other couple's hands were involved. How many of your hands are all over me? I'm not too sure at this point. So Dee is getting quite vigorous. He decides that it's time to basically have sex. Yeah. So I quietly slept inside you in the spa while the other two the the couple were making out with you and feeling you up and i think at this point as well they had begun well they hadn't started at that point i think we i think i may have actually let it but they certainly joined in very quickly after that having having sex with each other Yeah, that's right. So we're all still in spa at this point. So she's quite interested. She's kissing me. She's touching my breasts. You've got fantastic tits. That's why. I mean, I struggle to keep my hands off them. He reached over and touched my breasts. Yeah, he was touching your breasts and then he kissed you as well. And then he kissed me, basically. Which was a big surprise for all involved, I think. Yeah. Certainly there was a look of despair on your – not despair, but oh, my God on your face. Yeah, I think a combination of, like, this is really sexy but also, wow, this is too far, too far for me. This is exactly the point where I think the next part, the next line in our discussion topics, the freak out. Yeah, this is the freak out. So it was just pretty much like I had realised that this is not, this is not what I wanted to do, you do you know this is not what i came in for freaked out i thought we're going too far too soon i'm not ready for this what are we doing and at that point i just said i said i want to go what will be interesting for the crowd at home is why you actually got to that situation and this is something that i think all newbies need to be careful of yes yeah so for me obviously we'd spoken about this in the debrief and gone right over what happened and how how it all occurred and why we got to that stage but also why I felt like it was just too much and you know obviously very confusing for Dee as well because at this point he's thinking wow you know she's, she's really into it, this is great, this is really fun. Let's just understand that I was kind of freaking out as well. This was not, you know, I wasn't entirely okay with what was happening here and I'll explain that a little later. So we basically get out of there, we get in the cab and we come home. While we're at home, we're talking, what what happened and for me it was almost that i'd felt that something was expected it was the obligation you felt obligated to actually do something with this couple because we'd spent time with them earlier in the evening yeah which which is something that i mean we've discussed since then in depth and at no point ever should anybody feel obligated to do anything in this in this lifestyle and i think that would be the absolute downfall of any relationship who is involved in this but goes too far purely because they feel obligated so it is something to look out for because we went into this situation eyes wide open and we still had a had an you know a freak out yeah and it was purely because we broke some rules and we went too far yeah we broke some rules and went too far so to my mind I I thought that you know because we'd spent some time earlier in the evening because we'd started talking a bit sexy that you know there was almost this expectation and and for the people out there and both both men and women you know it's it's something you've got to work on and it's the ability to just say no say no yeah or remove yourself from the situation something that I now know is that it's perfectly acceptable if at any time you actually go you know what i'm uncomfortable totally out of my depth like i need a moment or whatever or i need to talk to my partner it's actually very acceptable for you to go you know what guys just can we can we get 10 minutes we're going to go have a chat we're just going to have a pause yeah so that was um something that i've picked up on now but certainly at the time just in over my head so yes so we we're now currently at the debrief because we have a 24-hour burger joint between our place so we're now currently at the debrief which is actually at home and we spent quite a few hours discussing the night and figuring out how we went wrong and what happened and one of the interesting things is i was actually kind of pissed off with c because we went in there with rules and frankly i felt like she had broken that rule by kissing by kissing the other girl now now keep in mind here though i didn't really have a problem with the the act of c and the other couple kissing my problem was with her breaking the rule so this is for us was a real uh breakthrough i suppose because we then decided that from here on in we wouldn't have rules per se we would only allow ourselves to go as far as we were comfortable with and I think we talk about that in future podcasts oh yeah yeah absolutely the ups and downs and the the mind changing but I mean I also felt just terrible so I remember we went to sleep after that and the next morning even I was very apologetic because I'd felt like, geez, I'd done something wrong here. Yeah. But again, I say I had no problem with what had happened. I more had a problem with the rule that was broken. Yeah. And I was pretty disappointed in myself as well, I guess, for feeling obligated and for feeling like I needed to go think. But look, I think all in all, I mean, we had a fantastic night. We did. It was great. It was a really interesting first experience. Dee had never seen me on a pole dancing before, so that was. Yeah, the pole dancing place you went to wouldn't even allow men in the room. No. It was terrible. I mean, we had a good time. Yeah, we did. We had a great time. I mean, if we had met this couple now. We'd probably have a very good time. Yeah. And not only that, we'd exchange numbers with them and probably catch up with them out of the lifestyle, just for drinks and possibly a meal. But, yeah, they were a great couple. It was just unfortunate that at that point we just weren't ready for where what where we were at yeah but certainly what we did walk away with was that was sexy you know the moments that we had both upstairs and both downstairs it it was sexy and so that was a big thing for us when we were discussing look you know what occurred and everything else absolutely I mean I think I would I think for the majority of the evening i was probably hard yeah that doesn't surprise me no robust man why thank you but i think that's probably yeah that probably covers covers us off for this one i really hope you guys have enjoyed what we had to talk about and certainly there's more to come and they'll get deeper more exciting more interesting in terms of the discoveries that we've gone through it's been great for tonight absolutely um so join us on our next podcast we'll be talking about our next club event and also if you have the time drop by our facebook page swinging down under and feel free to drop us a line absolutely we look forward to hearing from anyone if you've got any questions if you need any guidance even though look we're no experts here but we're happy to use our experiences to help you if if possible and we've got a lot of funny stories. 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Speaker2: Absolutely crackers. So, you know, rule 101, no track pants, no joggers, no gym gear. No gym gear. But that's it for tonight.
Speaker1: So this is C.
Speaker2: This is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.