EP105 - What Makes You Wet with Casual Swinger Podcast

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you're listening to swinging down under podcast about the swinging non-monogamous lifestyle from two crazy australians with over four years of lifestyle antics to keep you entertained informed angry happy and horny join our international swinging adventures g'day guys and welcome back to another episode of Swinging Down Under. Today's episode we are actually joined by fellow content creators Casual Swinger. They're also a podcaster and you can go and find all their information including what podcast catches they're on at casualswinger.com so check out the show notes for all of that.

What we're talking about with Casual Swinger with Mickey and Mallory today. Having a little bit of fun first up we're going to do a sex game of two truths and a lie. Where they're going to talk about what makes you wet. What makes you want to go from that bar or that mingle event or that first meet to the bedroom. So we're each going to give some of our answers. And hopefully that helps you with your relationship, understanding even your partner, create some conversation.

And also helps you understand some signals that you may actually be getting from other people when you're out on those dates. We're going to finish it up with a listener question today that we received on the Swinging Down Under website as well about talking to your partner about getting into the lifestyle. So otherwise, we've actually got some really exciting content lined up for you guys. So here's what you can look forward to coming up, aside from the podcast today, of course, is the top 10 tips for single guys in the lifestyle.

And this is from a hot life and from a hot life and couples perspective so this is for all those bulls and stags out there some tips about engaging with us maybe things to look out for your profile how to send that first message how to present yourself etc so that's what's coming up we also have things that swingers say or stuff swingers say section and we're going to do swinging with clicks in the lifestyle so that's another podcast episode coming up and finally we also have swinging as an age gap couple many of you guys know that daryl and i are 10 years apart and we want to talk about how that may impact our journey as a swinging lifestyle couple the beauty about that episode too you guys is that we actually have an interview with another couple who is actually an age gap couple with a slightly longer age gap than daryl and i have so we're going to get their reactions to the swinging lifestyle do they find it interesting exciting do they find it difficult what questions what stumbling blocks that they may have and some tips on how to i guess prevent some of those things we also have some great content for that episode actually from our cassidy community as well so really excited to bring you that episode and these are going gonna be coming out every two weeks upcoming.

Now for those of you out there that are subscribed to our newsletter, you probably already know this, but we have been kicking off a YouTube channel, or trying to. We've been working on this now for a couple of months, you guys, and we have some recorded sessions, we're getting them edited, and we were ready to go live with our YouTube channel. Unfortunately, YouTube found something in our content that was against their terms of service and they terminated our account before we even got out of the gate, you guys.

So we are currently working with them to try and figure out what it was that went wrong and how we can get that channel back live so we can bring you that video content. We did actually show our Patreon members a snippet of that and thank you so much, guys, for not only your support, but all of your feedback on that as well. It was great to hear that you found it as interesting as we did. It is very different content than our podcast, you guys, Thank you.

of that and thank you so much guys for not only your support but all your feedback on that as well it was great to hear that you found it as interesting as we did it is very different content than our podcast you guys so we're excited to bring that for you check out our website and subscribe to our newsletter because that's where you're going to find out the latest information and how you can perhaps subscribe to the channel whenever and wherever it does go live so thank you again to all our patreon members we've had a fantastic response to that and honestly we couldn't and be happier does go live.

So thank you again to all of our Patreon members. We've had a fantastic response to that and honestly, we couldn't be happier and more humbled by your support. And one last thing before we get into today's episode, speaking of supporting content creators, you guys, Mickey and Mallory from Casual Swinger have a sex toy store, it's called casualtoys.com. Please do us a favor, if you've got to buy some sex toys, some lube, some lingerie, whatever it is that you're out there and you need to buy it anyway, jump over to casualtoys.com. Mickey and Mallory are fantastic content creators. Thank you.

Please do us a favor, if you've got to buy some sex toys, some lube, some lingerie, whatever it is that you're out there And you need to buy it anyway, jump over to casualtoys.com Mickey and Mallory are fantastic content creators And this is how you can support them by buying the things that you need anyway over on their casualtoys.com website The beauty about that as well is that if you do use the code SDU, Mickey and Mallory are going to give you 20% off your order So do us a favor, if you need something, jump over to casualtoys.com and support our fellow content creators I'm going to get into the episode today you're going to hear my husband daryl and i interview mickey and mallory from casual swing and we have a lot of fun and we hope that you guys get a lot of information and laughs out of this episode and until next time have a great day hope you guys are well hope you're happy happy healthy and we'll see you guys soon all right guys welcome back to swinging down under podcast we have some very exciting guests on the line with us joining in our studio and i use that term again quite loosely from their studio welcome mickey and mallory well hello there yeah me too hi hello well you know doing fantastic thank you just hashtag hashtag?

Is that what just happened? I'm just trying to get it wherever I can. You just said me too? Yeah, fair enough. We need to get it out there. I think it's a very important hashtag. I always wanted to feel a part of something. It's my opportunity. Well, if you like, you can be part of the podcast for today. We'll allow that. I thought you were about to say something really dirty like, hey, Mickey, lady, you can be a part of me if you want to. I know. I already have enough problems with Jay saying that I want things in my ass.

I don't think i need to flirt with daryl today i don't know jay's got a pumpy oppy thing now that he can cram on home he does good old penis before we get into rambling land because i know that with this crew that's likely to happen mickey and mallory if you guys don't know who they are i'm gonna hand over to you guys to do your elevator pitch. I got pointed out for that one. We're the Casual Swinger Podcast. We are completely irreverent. I think somebody asked us the other day, how would you classify your podcast?

We said we're infotainment, meaning that we want people to learn something, but you're here to have a good time. If you're not having fun, then you're probably not going to stick around. If you do stick around, you might have fun and learn something at the same time. Yeah, agreed. I mean, a lot of our stuff is tongue in cheek. It's very much akin to how we live our regular lives day to day. Yeah, but, you know, we're lifestyle. We have always been lifestyle. Our parents were lifestyle. So that's kind of where our names came from.

And, you know, we made some pretty cool friends pretty early on with people like yours truly. And we're having a great time doing it. Awesome. And, you know, I know that Mallory likes to do her little spiel. Let's get that right up the front of the podcast. Mallory, where can everybody find you? Oh, I love this. Okay. So we're Casual Swinger everywhere. That's SLS, SDC. Let's see. I haven't done this in a while. We're on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, Cassidy, oh, Double Date Nation, of course, and Quiver and CasualSwinger.com. Oh, yeah. Least of all our website, right? Yeah.

That one's last, yeah. Because I'm sure that one doesn't hold all the other, all the redirects to the others. Here's all the places that you can have sex with us. Oh, and by the way, here's where you can find our podcast. Got it. You know, subconsciously, that's exactly where my priorities are. You know, it's funny.

We actually direct more people to our peers in the content creator space than we do to ourselves on our website we have our partner say where we have everybody else's links and everything everybody else's does and their patreons and all that stuff more than we have links to how to you know for example get to casual toys there you go now we are having a little bit of fun for the first segment of today's podcast we're going to play a sex game of two truths and a lie right that's what we're going to do first up oh i am so excited i'm excited for this as well and because you've got so many and that'll lead quite nicely given that two ladies are excited it'll lead quite nicely into the second part of the podcast what makes you wet what makes you wet daryl's response is what water or ice cream you're pronouncing water wrong babe sorry water yeah sorry i've lost my australianism you could be a Jamaican.

Water. That's an Aussie joke. We don't know how to pronounce water. Jamaican water. We don't have a T in water. We have a D in the middle. Yep. Water. So two truths and a lie, but the sex version of this. So the aim of the game here is that we're going to go around the room. I thought it was just filthy shit. I didn't realize it was sex. But now I'm going to have to change at least two of my answers because they're all filthy shit rather than... You can carry on with that if you want to. I'm going to because I can't fucking rewrite it now. Filthy shit, D in the middle, Rocky Road, we're dead.

Rocky Road. God. Oh, yeah. Marshmallows in your bundle. That's the end of the podcast now. Thanks for that. That's whetting me up. I like what you're doing here. You're just making our podcast low rent. Thanks for that. Let's see. Were you expecting anything else? Not really. You've met me. What are you? The aim of the game is that we're going to go around the room, we're going to share each of our two truths and a lie, and the other couple has to guess collectively as a unit which is the truth and which is the lie.

The reason we are playing it that way is because ones that I bring up, Daryl obviously may know, and vice versa. So say, example, Daryl's going to go, Mickey and Mallory, you guys are collectively. I think we got the idea there, but this is not one of your standard board games where you've got to go through every rule and then you fuck it up halfway and then I throw the board into the window and spew and run away and go, fuck this, stupid game. Was that your two truths and a lie? No, that's just Monopoly.

So if I get this correct, like, so we have to agree on this, on the casual swinger end, what either yours or Daryl's lie is, correct? Yes. Okay, I got this. So you guys are playing as a team when it comes to guessing our ones and then vice versa. So you guys go separately, but when it comes to guessing, we've got to collectively guess. So we both need to agree which one's going to be the two truths, and which one's going to be the lie. I want to hear Mallory go first, purely because I know she's got a list, I know she's excited, she's this. Oh, yeah. Oh, Jesus. She's so horny.

I'm going to cut your finger off. Fucking sound effects. Mallory, you're on. I love the sound effects, and she's dirty, so this is going to be fun. You guys are two peas, I swear. All right, so me first. Let's start with this one. I used to peg my high school boyfriend on the regular and had no idea what it was until many years later. I'm obsessed with scented and flavored lubes, and I had sex in the park at Disney World. It's got to be the lube one. What do you reckon?

You could have told me any of these things before I married you you never asked so we're looking for the truth you're looking for the lie correct no we're looking for the lie we're looking for the lie yeah we're looking for the lie so i reckon it's the lube thing i reckon she was pegging a partner and i reckon she has had sex in a park in disneyland because mallory was it disneyland or disney world oh yeah which one's more progressive well I wrote I had sex in the park at Disney World. Disney World. Okay. Because that really makes a difference at this end. Which one? The lubes?

The centered lube, yeah, for sure. The centered lube, for sure. I reckon there's a man out there somewhere that's been pegged to death almost. We're going $10 on the lubes. We think the lubes are a lie. Damn, you're correct. That is the truth. Ding. You know, and you guys can play at home with this one as well, but I'm just going to put a big one down for SDU. That just tells you what they think of your degenerate nature right there. I mean, we're taking that reference from the man that she married. Well, and I'll be honest, that was the only guy I ever pegged.

And I thought it was something you did did you hear that jay i learned from porn well that's what i was actually going to ask you learn from porn sorry that's a very early porn oh yeah i mean let's be honest i don't do not recommend i want to do a follow-up question to that and feel free anybody you can pick one follow-up question to each of these ones but you were just one somebody yes just one you obviously didn't have a harness a lot of rules that i wasn't just using the dildo in his eyes. No, anybody, you can pick one follow-up question to each of these ones. But you were pegging somebody.

Yes, just one. You obviously didn't have a harness. There's a lot of rules that I wasn't aware of. So what were you doing there, just using the dildo in his ass? No. So he was a couple years older than I, and we were able to sneak into the sex store locally. And he got me a strap-on. I had a whole slew of sex toys that he stored in his safe in his room for when I came over. In his safe? Yes. You heard that correctly. Yeah, we had a sex safe. In a van. He had a van.

safe in a van he had a van he had a van but he didn't live in the van oh man yeah he had a shag and wagon i'm gonna say there's a lot of fucking alarm bells going off here i think you should i think you should just be happy with the fact that you're not locked up with somebody saying it puts the lotion on its skin fair fair my life could have turned it out very differently and then you married me what an upgrade right now you've got access to a whole dildo store this is correct it's probably in a safe it's a natural progression rubber dicks for years it's in a walk-in safe let's give these guys a chance to score a point on the bar shall we daryl do you want to go next up no you go next because it's going to be hilarious oh jesus fuck barra said hi guys okay i had sex in a field when i was 15 years old doggy style on my knees no blanket no rug you know just scratching my knees on the dirt i can't remember how old i was or the first person i ever had anal sex with and daryl and i had sex in the movies whilst watching the avengers so i'll read this to you again i had sex in a field when i was 15 i can't remember anal and daryl and i had sex watching the avengers in a cinema i'm thinking it's either the field or the anal so i think the avengers is bullshit because i think that kate and daryl were riveted and their nerd-like nature they were just riveted i think you want to believe that that's i'd be like off get away from me do you want that to be our final answer no i'll let you pick you guys i got to agree you've got to agree i've got to agree i mean really yeah you know you invited on this i know right so i think she did have sex in a field so that one's out okay i think it's plausible to not remember how old you were who it was the the first time you had anal, depending on how long you've been having sex.

Sure. That leaves the Avengers. Yeah, that does seem a little out of place now that you say that. Let's say, I'll go with the Avengers. Avengers. Wrong. It was the second time we saw the Avengers in the cinemas. First time we wanted to see it properly. And it was actually, I can't remember how old I was or who I had anal sex with for the first time. That was my lie. Oh, so close. Okay, next time I'm going with my gut. Don't ask me next time. That's how you win. Okay, all right, fair. We're making decisions in a vacuum via me. Perfect, exactly. This is how this game works. Sold.

Do you remember liking it the first time? That's a. No, that is a good question. I was about to ask the same. I don't think that there was additional non-bodily fluid lube involved. So it was spittle. I'm going to go with a no. It was spittle. I'm going to go with a no on that. Ouch. Purely because back then, I guess you didn't really, depending on where you live, depending on who your parents were, et cetera, you maybe didn't have access to a lot of that stuff. So, yeah, I'm going to roll with the fact. You're going to end up in fistfights on this show. I swear to God, it's like, no.

I've got a, you know, safety pen over here. Don't make me make it work. Excellent. Self-defense pen. Have you ever thought a fucking pen would be a self-defense pen? Seriously. And with that little thing that we don't really want to talk about, Mickey, Mickey, you're up. Two truths and a lie, man. Are you up, though? I mean, that's a good question. In the hands of a living weapon like myself, anything is a weapon. Oh, dear God. Just say your answers. Oh, your words are a weapon. They make me want to kill myself. My man. That's how I roll. All right.

It is my turn, actually, because the beautiful, beautiful wife. So you went, right? So it's my turn actually because the beautiful beautiful wife so you went right and so it's my turn yes sir i think kate might have actually told me to go yes okay i should pay attention go she did yeah i mean any time you could get the fuck on with it doesn't follow instructions well well you know i'm just actually just trying to put kate in a position where she has to put half the editing i've had to put some of the episodes we've done. So, all right, let's go with, let's see.

So I actually, I sang lead in a band during and after college. So there's one. And someone once sang Hotel California into my penis in a bar.

And I once had sex with a pregnant girl on the hood of my car in a church parking lot before i dropped her off at her sister's house oh you see sometimes what happens is people put these really fucking out there once to like confuse you and then you've met how much of a fucking weirdo this dude is and then it's like oh that seems too unrealistic and then it makes your mind boggle like oh i don't know man is it too far out there like come on where are you at what's your initial gut telling you my initial gut it tells me that he said somebody sing hotel california into his cock you think that's a true yeah because i mean i've seen him on stage and i can just imagine that it'd go that far okay yeah but i'm not unsold on the pregnant woman on the bonnet of a car at the front of a church yeah i'm not unsold on that i haven't spoken to because he then dropped about religion and dropped her off very sisters right it was it's specific enough that it could be actually on the money yeah or it could be throwing we're debating this way too long let's just pick one of those two so lead singer in a band where you're at with that i think that's think that's true, for sure.

Okay. Yeah. So the question is, the pregnant lady or the singing band in California? I mean, not a good lead singer in a band. By no means. I love Daryl's muttly laugh. It proves anybody can be a lead singer in a band right now. So parking lot or Hotel California? Parking lot. I don't know, man. We'll make the choice. Come on. All right. I'll go with parking lot as well, but I'm unsold on it. Go. Parking lot.

go parking lot fuck it it was the hotel california wasn't it wow actually i was not a lead singer in a band damn it oh so wrong casual swinger scores one point he fucked the brakes off that girl on the hood of that car actually had to actually have the hood fixed because she left ass-shaped dents in the hood of the car how big was she she was pretty along. I had a kink I had to scratch off the list. Love it. So hang on. I'm sure that scratched more than one off the list. It did. Out the front of a church, on the bonnet, with a pregnant woman.

I mean, there's at least three there that I can see. There's a couple of pieces of that that were circumstantial. Is that like a trifecta, and I did. I think that's a new hashtag right there. Yeah? Trifecta. Trifecta and I did. I think that's a new hashtag right there. Yeah? Trifecta. Trifecta. All right, I'll write it down. Let's get that going. So I can promptly forget it later. Wow. All right, so casual swinger, got a point on the board. Swinging down under, two points. How'd that happen? They got two. I guess it's my turn then. Yep, Daryl, you're up. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not.

Okay, so there should be three things here, yeah? Okay, so. Yes, babe, it's my turn then yep daryl you're up maybe i am maybe i'm not okay so there should be three things here yeah okay so yes babe it's called two truths and a lie two truths and a lie didn't even have to kick off a shoe to count those on my hands okay so number one daryl masturbates less than once a day while traveling he has tasted cum and he hates anal stimulation oh okay so we both travel for work, and if possible, we absolutely masturbate more than once a day. So my gut's telling me that.

I think you can taste cum, like, by accident or on purpose. I mean, of course. And, yeah, my gut's telling me the first one. Go with your gut? Yeah, I think that's the one. I've been fired from choosing over here, but if he likes his butt, I'm telling Jay. So, number one is it, for sure, because it's definitely more than once a day. It's more like three times. She got it. Boom. Yeah, you absolutely nailed it. Jesus, it's a tiebreaker, casual swing. I got one extra point on the board. I do really enjoy masturbating while I'm traveling. It seems to be my release. It is.

Who wants to know the cum story? Anybody? Yes, that's my follow-up question. But I also want to ask the Uber drivers what they think you're jerking off that much. Well, we don't have Uber down here anymore, mainly because I kept covering the screen with goo. They couldn't afford the lawsuit. They couldn't afford it, yeah. So tasted cum, yes. So I've not only tasted my own but I've tasted other people's as well, which is even more exciting. The first time – exciting may not be the right word. First time I tasted somebody else's cum was by mistake and I was quite young.

It was the local lady who enjoyed sex quite a lot, which i'm going to say slut but i use that in the most positive term excellent as i can because without sluts i'd still be a virgin and i really think it's amazing and we should all embrace it so she really enjoyed her younger years and in fact has since been diagnosed as a legitimate maniac and is on medication due to that medication due to that. Dude, get around to tasting the cum. Anyway, so yes. Bullet point is cum story. It was a Friday night and I was number three, basically. Yeah. Yeah.

And me being the man who likes to actually get the woman off as well, thought I should start with going down on her. And yeah, so I got a nice cocktail. That was it. Yeah. In it in her martini glass and yeah that's how it all started and you know my love of cum has only grown since then get it freak i love it yes it's not really true but the love of cum has not grown but that was a exciting introduction to the world of semen especially the world of world of semen? Is that a theme park in Singapore? It should be. Good Lord. There's a book. Have you seen the book on semen recipes? Oh, my God.

There was a book released two years ago on semen recipes and how to include semen in every meal. No, no. We're going to be up all night now. I know. Here's my concern with these sorts of things. You end up getting so many gag presents from all of your lifestyle friends because something will be said and then somebody will be like, oh, fuck yeah, I can't wait to send that at Christmas time. I'm going to find a 55-gallon drummer Rhino cum on Amazon and send it to Dee for Christmas. Do you know, if you're going to find it anywhere, it is on Amazon. This is true.

Also, if that clears customs, I'm well impressed. It will clear customs.

impressed it'll clear man terrified no no i'm sure if you just label it to singapore zoo care of this location it'll get here can i put a glove on and like strap it down and be like long and hard and just pretend like i'm inseminating rhinos all over the country i'm not going to say no to that because you scare me okay excellent hey guess what mallard's back back around to you you're up tiebreaker okay we've got two points this is the tiebreaker and i'm saying we're currently tied to get two points each no pressure yeah so this needs to be the time strong okay all right so the first time i got fingered strong well this is you okay over there come strong i this.

First time I got fingered was in my best friend's driveway by the boy across the street. First time I used a condom, I tried to inflate it like a balloon. And since I was a single mom, I stripped in my early 20s for extra cash. I think they're all fucking true. I was there when she blew up her first condom. Shit, so fingered in the driveway, blowing up condoms, stripping. Oh, man, I don't know where you're at. I think they're all true. I know, hey? I totally think they're all true. I mean, for starters, it's called finger blasting, just so you know.

That would infer that she was in a car, maybe. No, she was in the driveway. In a car in the driveway. I was sitting on the driveway. I was sitting in the driveway. In a car in the driveway. No, no, just sitting there, legs apart, and he's just finger blasting her. See, I think that that's too, maybe there is a car, and maybe that's too old to be fingered, so I'm thinking that one's false. She used the term fingered, so, I mean, fingered's pretty old by itself. Yeah, I reckon that one's false. Still say finger blasted. You going with me? Not yet. We haven't even discussed the other two.

What are the other two? Stripping and blowing up a condom. Stripping totally. You reckon the stripping is fake? No, that's real. Okay. Yeah, for sure. So are you fingering? I'm pretty sure I've got video of that. Fingering? If you don't, I do. I think I've still got a dollar bill. I think I've still got a dollar bill. Does it still smell? It still smells, Mallory. Don't need to scratch it. I hate you all. And what was the second one? Thank you. Does it still smell? Scratch and sniff. It smells of Mallory. Don't need to scratch it. I hate you all. And what was the second one?

It was blowing up a condom. Yeah, that's not a surprise to me. I think just about everyone's done that at some point. So you're going with the fingering. I reckon the fingering. All right, we're going with the fingering. We think that's the false one. Unfortunately, no. I did cocktail. I did cocktail in a strip club, but I never stripped.

Oh never stripped oh damn it yeah so who did that dollar bill come from jesus i really thought i had it there with the finger blast now that's a true story like it was a little sneaky and then i was like oh that feels good i'm just gonna let it happen were you in a car no i was literally sitting in the driveway on the broad daylight i don't know yeah wow what did the neighbors say i had my first nice pussy yeah maybe i don't know i had my first kiss from another girl on my driveway in broad daylight it was my neighbor yeah really yeah i was like oh five or six and she was like hey let's kiss because kissing girls is better than kissing boys yeah well i agree for what it's worth amen yeah boys are stubbly See you next time.

six and she was like hey let's kiss because kissing girls is better than kissing boys yeah i agree for what it's worth amen yeah boys are stubbly my driveway was gravel all i did was puke on it yeah boys are aggressive my driveway was a kilometer long so sorry what's that a thousand yards easy conversion one meter but our nails are always on point oh yeah all right here's my two truths and a lie hang on are we going again i thought yeah no no so this i'm saying like this round is the tiebreaker round okay i have never reached the mile high club even though i fly 140 000 miles a year i once put shampoo on my inner thighs when i was masturbating to stimulate cum to stimulate or simulate cum sorry okay so it's a big difference and i have faked it when i'm with swinging partners twice and i remember both times sorry let me get this i'm not part of the mile high club i have put shampoo in my leg and i have faked it twice so i think the last one's true because i think when you start off you have like that idea that there's an expectation that every time you have sex with somebody you're going to get off so i think that one's true and remember the number one reason women fake it to get it over with get it to fuck over okay get them to stop fair fair i think the shampoo is plausible and i wish if there was an age assigned to it like we could probably like eliminate or it's not going to do that so just you know come on here's my thing i think personally first one she is in the mile high club because her husband flies helicopters for fun and i think that's too easy though i know and just really hard to fly a helicopter and get light at the same time well also like in the mile high club you can't do it in your seat you literally have to go to the bathroom and i'm sorry like what like who wants she's not a germaphobe like you are they're they're from singapore also and they're singapore is supposed to be clean have you ever heard of business class yeah that's true right no i think he's trying to fucking throw me off now and then the last piece of it right so what was the last one again kate there was one more i have faked it i know i'm with twice.

She's faked it more than twice. Twice, and I remember both times. That's why it's a lot. I don't know that I trust your gut. Do you want to take this one? No, no, you do you. No, because I suck. Go ahead. You don't suck. I'll let you make the decision this time. Nope. I was just offering up some other. I think it's mile high. All right. Then go with it. What the fuck do we have to lose? Final answer? Final answer, mile high. You are correct. I'm not part of the Mile High Club. Oh! I have never done that. Boom. So, there you go. Well done.

Is it because it's gross or just the lack of opportunity? I think it's a combination. I think it's a combination of the two. Okay. We've tried it. I think Daryl's put the blanket over me before and he's like, hey, babe, let's just come. And I'm like, there is people literally staring at me in the face.

And that dude like old and that lady has food still on her face like it's just not a sexy environment so i think maybe that's why i think it's probably a lot more to do with the fear of getting caught and there's that as well that's the big one i don't want to lose my status babe that's why it's all about them points totally with you because that is my first thought and then it's you know like okay if i get caught yet I get caught, yeah, losing my status, getting kicked off the airline, but also, like, what do you do once it's done? Where are you going to go? Remember I got so mad at Jim?

How are you going to keep that under wraps? I got so mad at Jim for smoking weed in a Marriott that I had used points to get and I'm like, dude, I'm a lifetime titanium. Don't fuck it up for me. He's trying to smoke in his room. I'm like, no, no, don't fuck this up. This is important.

So you guys now have four points and Swinging under has two points so four to two babe we're getting smoked here getting hosed yeah it's not my go though it's not mickey's my go oh shit it's me let's hear it now i'm worried about my second questions whether any of them are truthful or lawful all right i have been in non-monogamous relationships three different times i got arrested in las vegas for climbing a pillar in front of a hotel and i got hit on really hard by my best friend's mom the only reason we didn't have sex is because she came home early whoa he didn't clarify whether or not the non-monogamous relationships were ethical or not.

Let's just, for the sake of argument, we'll call them ethically non-monogamous relationships. All right, then. Fine. Climbing something in Vegas. I'm a big climber when I'm drunk. There are so many photos of me, like, up trees, up buildings.

Which is hilarious because normally the next photo is Kate in a cast, you know one arm broken face shattered you know because your clumsiness knows little bounds yeah i kind of think that the climbing might be real purely because i can see myself doing that yeah got hit on by somebody and was going to have sex with a mom yeah that's i mean i mean who hasn't had that happen it's a real burden being as hot as we are, isn't it, Mickey? Oh, yes. The bane of my existence. Truly a cross to bear. Let me see. Which one are you guys? I think he definitely nearly fucked his friend's mum.

I think all of his relationships have not been non-monogamous. The last three he said. I like how he said all, so you've only had three. Well, I just assumed. I got the giggles now. I don't know. I reckon it actually might be true, and the climbing thing in Vegas is false. Yeah, okay, let's go with that. All right, we're going with the climbing thing in Vegas. Fuck it! Damn it!

Actually, the one that is not true is about my best friend's mom so she and i were flirting and her husband came home so that was a lie so it's just that the husband came home yeah yes i got arrested in vegas for shimmying up a pole with a strap like a lumberjack yeah and i sat on top of the pillar it was a wide pillar so i needed the strap to get around it and i shimmied all the way to the top that sat on the top wouldn't come down the cops told me to so they arrested me I don't know.

like a lumberjack and i sat on top of the pillar it was a wide pillar so i needed the strap to get around it and i shimmied all the way to the top that sat on the top wouldn't come down the cops told me to so they arrested me and i have been in three different non-monogamous relationships married two of them because i figured out after the first one that it wasn't normal and that i should probably try and hang on to him and i managed to get it right this time yay yay good up yeah i that. Woo-hoo, go me. Yay. I'm on my first, so jury's still out. Hey, let's not try again.

You'll get the next one better, mate. It's fine. The next one will be much better. You'll hit the next one. I'll say about the first dirt. Don't throw two more. Love you, babe. For now. So I guess it's so. These guys are hosing us. I'm going to go one more. They've won.

But we'll go one more because i had to rewrite a fucking line because i didn't have a lie no sorry the other way around maybe i didn't have a truth i don't know lover of all things semen is hard you got this okay so my three i lost my virginity in single digits i love shaft stimulation and i almost fucked a relative wow that must have been a shocker at the family reunion oh okay so i think it's shaft stimulation really yeah I don't know.

most fucked a relative wow that must have been a shocker at the family reunion oh okay so i think it's shaft stimulation really yeah i think daryl seems like he's been sexually curious like i get that feeling because i was curious from a like tiny age so i guess maybe i just relate to it okay and you were too weren't you yeah yeah i got my first job in single digits i mean it didn't really count yeah and i mean if you're talking about like extended family i mean if you grew up in the middle of nowhere there's a good chance you're related to there's no chance for me my whole family's ugly so i would be like fuck y'all not having i don't know i'm gonna go with shaft stimulation because i think like there's not as many nerves as people think are down there especially if you're circumcised.

And they streak ahead another point. Well, congratulations, guys, because that's you getting six to two. You guys have officially won. Smoked us. Two truths and a lie. We were out in front. We fell back. There's no recovery now. That's it. It's all done. It's all done. Do you know how we won?

We won because we let our best player do all the work i'm also highly competitive and i try to keep it together but like you don't want to go to like a bar on trivia night with me i will embarrass the crap out of you not not with her skill just with the thing she says yeah but i tell you what pretty much so just a little tidbit on the back end of that the almost fucked relative was not when i was young it was actually just before we left last week really you have to give a little background on that though well we we were almost fucked as a it's a bit of a stretch we were out having we were out with our friends heading to a club and there was a group of us there and then we realized that one of the attractive ladies that was there was a cousin actually one of the other guys said oh she's from around where you grew up and i said oh really and asked the question so what's your surname and she told me and i said yeah we can't we're related you just got it up there so you didn't go through like the triage of like are you like my third or fourth cousin because like once you get into like after third it's very close she was number one cousin at best yeah number one cousin yeah yeah that's like that's guaranteed in all of australia she has trophy thanks for playing two truths and a lie with us that was good it was good fun i hope you guys oh that was so much fun thank you always love hanging out with you guys let's quickly talk about not quickly let's just talk about what makes you wet We'll be right back.

out with you guys let's quickly talk about not quickly let's just talk about what makes you wet wow you should have recorded that on the little button so that you could press it every now and again welcome to 92.9 you're now reaching oh god stop it it's the only uh it's a caller on the line you know it's interesting this is mallory from florida mallory how are you today the buttons The buttons on the road control board, only buttons Kate can find. I love it. Let's talk about ice cream. Ice cream? Oh, yeah, that's right. I like Kate's radio voice, though. That's pretty hot.

I'm still upset about the fact that Daryl just said I can't get women off, basically.

I mean, that actually i mean i think it comes down more to you looking up constantly and saying am i doing this right to the point when one of the girls that you were first with looks at you and says babe your face is in my vagina it's fine just keep doing what you're doing stop stopping all right so what makes you wet what we want to talk about is what takes you from having a date you're out having actually let's set the scene you're out having some delicious spanish tappas and you're enjoying the wine mickey you have some italian tappas some some form of scotch or whatever the fuck it is that you drink some dodgy alcohol and you know mallory though she's high level she's drinking the good stuff and you're with a couple and what makes you click over from dating to I want to fuck these people I want to have sex with these people what makes you wet like what is that should we step past the obvious around you know exciting brains and all that sort of thing and just say what actually gets you horny yeah to make you switch let's yeah like obviously there's an element of understanding that you know we like intellect and we like humor else, but maybe like, is there a physical characteristic?

Is there something that switches that part in your brain where you're like, actually, yes, now I'm horny. Now I would like to go play with these people. Oh, so I have a million answers to this because it can be very specific to the person.

Everyone has their own like attributes that are highlighted by their personality and not just their physicality, but if it has to be something that like really sparks my interest, this is going to be really weird, but kind of encroaching on my space to let me know that they're invested with that deep eye contact and letting me know that they want to learn more about me. Like as that conversation scales on, it lets me know that they give a shit.

And for me, it's really fucking weird, but it's turns me on maybe i'm an egomaniac maybe knowing that they want to know more about me like feeds my ego maybe maybe a little bit probably probably all right definitely is that the same for females and males in terms of people that are approaching you like do you have a different set of characteristics for ladies versus gentlemen yes when someone feels comfortable enough to like kind of break that bubble of the you know space that most people try to give each other especially americans were really weird about like how much space we give between each other dude you didn't grow up you didn't grow up in a small country town there's no need for social distancing in my hometown because people don't get close enough when they talk for it to be a problem seriously it's like a two meter gap minimum no i grew up one house like 10 or 11 years that we lived there i didn't even know my neighbor's names like we never waved we didn't know anybody it's a totally different way of life so when they like i said they come into my space and want to get physically closer to me and also mentally closer i don't know it kind of flips the switch for me on the next episode of unsolved mysteries how to find mallory's clitoris the hunt continues paddling the pink canoe it's very obvious i mean i'm not sporting like a, you know.

Thunderclap? Pinky, but. Jesus fucking hell. It goes rawr. My girl, what game's on point? I don't know. I need to put the drink down. No, no. Are we asking this question to somebody else now? Keep drinking more, please. Please keep drinking more. That was a long answer. It's like all the, like, that's deep into the psyche of Mallory's vagina. I can still smell it on the dollar bill that I have. You're welcome. Yes, mic drop. You are welcome. Hey, Daryl, what's yours? Mine? Yeah. Mine is definitely when people start touching me.

So anybody can walk up and just like stroke your arm and you're like, boing. That's helpful on the tube. Have you met my penis? That is not far from the truth, unfortunately. So Daryl should never wear a skirt without underwear. We discussed recently. Short skirt without underwear. Yeah, no, because somebody will brush my arm and then the skirt gets weird shaped. Happened. So it becomes a belt. Yes, yes, because somebody will brush my arm and then the skirt gets weird shaped. So it becomes a belt. Yes, yes, it does. Interesting. I'm booping your nose next time I see you, by the way.

That's all it takes. So I am very much somebody who enjoys to have somebody confident enough to reach out and touch them. So that's the thing that does it for me.

I want everybody listening right now to just think about gregory heinz in history of the world when they were checking to see who the eunuchs were and they're going down the line and the girl's doing the dance and he's wearing the feather skirt yeah that's that's naryl somebody touches him that's a thing that was a good outfit we actually still have that costume that was a bam that we wore to Desire a couple of years back, and that's why it's just so short. We only have parts of it. Yeah, we only have parts of it because, you know, with costumes. Some of it may have gotten torn off or lost.

Yeah, and he was walking along the pathway, and we were with a couple, and he just got hard, and the whole front of the Bam Bam skirt just, like, lifted up. And his head was poking out the end of the skirt, and then a couple came up from behind us, and then it was like, loop, back down again. Yeah. That's a pretty good sum up. Yeah, I liked it. Yeah. Mickey, Mickey, where are you at? What's going to – hey, Mickey. No, don't. Wait. Don't. Here we go. Don't do it. I'm not going to sing this song. Don't fucking do it. I'm not singing this song. I'm looking at you. I'm right down the barrels here.

Don't do it. Okay, fine. We'll make you wet. Meanwhile, Mallory's dancing her ass off over here. You know what's funny? We had at NIN, I believe it was at the podcaster's meet and greet that you did at NIN, Kate. We had somebody come up and sing that to me, actually, that met us.

listener that came up and sang yeah mickey song to me which made me just giggle uncontrollably but that's not leading on to making him moist that's right oh oh oh that not that word ever that's not it that'll break it that'll turn it into a gummy worm but you know all right so, what does it for me to get anywhere with me? Honestly, I have met some amazingly beautiful people in the lifestyle, but the ones that I remember and the ones that really stick with me are the ones that get in my head. And it's not just about being brainy. It's not about being funny. It's not about being sore.

I was just thinking that whole time. I was like, I'll just drill into the side of that. I don't know why I went sore on that motherfucker. I was like, I'll just drill like scoop the brains out with a spoon. I'm just seeing your head like a monkey's head through the table, you know, like in Raiders of the Lost Ark and just somebody like never been happier that there's 10,000 miles between us. We're ruining his moment. Sorry. Someone gets in your head. How do they do that? What happens? You know, well, it's just it's one of those things. It's a mix for me.

But to be able to carry on a conversation and to be passionate about something that is not, you know, something that's divisive, something that really lights you up and look me in the eye when you talk to me and carry on that conversation and be excited about something. A great list is somebody that listens and speaks and has something that they want to talk about. Those are the things that really kind of drag me in, right? It's not about one thing or another. And Mallory is definitely teed up over here to say something. No. I'm just admiring your answer. That's all.

Yeah, it really is kind of strange for me. I love touch. I love when somebody leans into a conversation, much like Mallory said, I love when somebody is actively engaged in a conversation, especially in a lifestyle environment. A lot of times we're in a place where it's loud. We're in a place where other people are vying for their attention. So when they lean in, it shows me something. It shows me that they want to hear what I have to say and they want me to hear what they have to say. And when they have something to say, that really starts the process for me.

Because if I can get to know you and you can get to know me by the time I get below the belt line, I already know what I need to do to make it happen. Yeah. I think we've had this conversation before. It's like a body language tango. Yeah. I think that's where it really starts for us. And that's how we ended up rolling around in the hay. I learned your mannerisms from talking to you and from engaging with you and from having that bi-directional conversation. And when I learned those mannerisms, I know how you're reacting to what I'm doing physically. So I don't really need you to say much.

And do you echo those mannerisms as well? So, you know, obviously like body language and, you know, kind of stepping back into business mode a little bit. But when you're trying to sell somebody something, generally you tend to use the same mannerisms, you use the same verbiage back to them. Do you do that same thing when you're in a lifestyle situation to try and echo that person so they understand that because they're doing it as well? 100%. Mimicry is a wonderful way to have a conversation with somebody in a language you know they understand.

Once you understand somebody's personality type and how they communicate, you can tell how they want to be communicated with. So it's interesting that you said there about passion.

And just before I answer, I want to pause on that because we were lucky enough recently to have some time on i think it was a saturday morning we sat there on the we got a thing community kind of zoom group chat and the conversation was what's attractive to you and my answer was about people being passionate about something i don't care what it is it could be literally something that i have no idea about you, I can't, you know, comment a lot on, but to see somebody who's passionate about something in their life, I think it's very attractive because that is where you can then see somebody's facial features like light up.

You can see that maybe their voice changes a little bit. They get very excited. They're energized, you know, and you can start, you know, you can start answering questions or asking questions and kind of engaging with them on that. So I think that that is a very attractive trait to have something that you can actually be passionate about. And the flip side of that, I think it's very attractive for the person who's reciprocated to actually just ask questions.

Even if somebody starts talking to you about like, I don't know, jetpacks, you know, and they're very passionate about it, you've got no idea about it. You can at least be like, wow, you know, when did that passion first happen? Like, where did you learn this information? You know, you don't have to know anything about the jetpack because quite frankly, I don't. But you can ask questions around and I think that's very attractive. Mallory, you look like you're going to say something.

Yeah, that makes total sense because I think it's a key indicator to kind of maybe let you know that they have dimensions and levels when it comes to sex.

And maybe we don't think about that up front in our minds when we're engaging with them but someone who's very flat think of the teacher from ferris bueller's day off like how impassioned do you think that person is going to be if you escalate it to a sexual situation when you have someone that finds something they like and they present passion totally makes sense yeah i agree as well i think that yeah if you've got people that are quite flat yeah you know and you ask them like hey what's your favorite i don't know ice cream flavor and you're like i don't know or you know what's your favorite food i don't know it's like well yeah you're not passionate about certain things in life but do you think swingers have trouble saying vanilla if it's their favorite ice cream flavor i think they do honestly i think there is an element of like i don't want to say vanilla because you know vanilla but a lot of people out there love vanilla there love vanilla.

I don't know. They'll say French vanilla. They'll say something fucked up like that. They'll be like, oh, vanilla with sprinkles or. But, you know, I think you guys have touched on something interesting that is probably an entirely separate conversation. But I love when people are passionate about something they have involvement in that they have control over. I get really frustrated with people that are passionate about something that has nothing to do with them, no control over.

So anything, you know, political or anti-vax or this or that, it has nothing to, there's nothing they can personally do about it. If that's what you want to talk about, you're going to turn me off in a hurry. But if you want to talk about something that you're personally invested in, that you have skin in the game and it gets you up in the morning, that turns me on. Yeah, I have to agree.

I honestly, and and again just really quickly before i talk about my thing that can be something that could be perceived as quite mundane as well like if somebody came to you and they were like yep i'm a 35 year old woman and what makes me get out of bed in the morning is crochet like most people people like like you know in the vanilla world people would be like crochet like what are you you know 90 but i think honestly if they're passionate about and they're like yes and i started when i was this age and i've got this collection and i sold them here and i've got a little etsy store or whatever like have at it you know what i mean more power to you yeah i want to hear about it but i don't know that i'm going to stick around and want to see her crocheted bra collection like that unless you know you would then we're going to go back to the hot factor what if she came to and she's like and here's my crochet panties that actually have a little opening at the bottom then you'd be like all right edna let's do this yeah i see you're a skill lady crotchless crocheted panties come on come on ethel i can't wait to get into that i'm searching that on etsy tonight what makes me wet i think very similar to what mallory was saying before i mean again we're kind of taking out the fact that you know there's intelligent conversation and there's everything else but it is very much about that physical touch coming in because one I'm super silly with understanding that people are flirting with me and so that for me is like oh this is an obvious indicator so you know I think that that's definitely something that I like and it also helps me to understand their intentions but also one of the things that I've come to realize over the years, when I think about fantasy, sexual fantasies in particular, they all tend to revolve around being desired, being wanted.

So when somebody gives you that physical indicator, it's like, oh, I get it now. Like that makes me feel desired. It makes me feel wanted. And therefore it makes me feel sexy, attractive, interesting, all of those amazing things. So that's what turns me on.

Knowing that people find that interest in me makes me then get those little fantasy bombs ticking over where i'm like oh yes yes i really enjoy that and so that's what's going to make me interested in actually going and playing yeah i'm with you 100 the idea in the game of pursuit is absolutely a turn on so when i reference like encroaching upon my space like that for me is the first indicator because back in the day before I realized it was happening, I mean, they were, you know, already up in my grill going for a kiss and I missed all of the other physical indicators. Yeah.

So to me, that is the first one. And then, you know, it's the rubbing of the hands like, oh, it's on. I know where this is going. And I'm moving the corner going, well, I'm going to see her later.

To your point to your point too though mickey you made a good point which was that sometimes in those loud spaces somebody coming in to have that conversation that conversation in your ear in your erogenous zone as well can be quite a turn on you know and that's one of the things like if you're in a really loud area you can use that to your advantage you know touching of the small of the lower back you know the erogenous zone here on the neck to lean in you know, hot breath play kind of here. Those are all really good things that people can do in those situations to make somebody turned on.

It depends on what they're going to say, right? Because if they get in and they're like, you're standing on my foot, that's different. That's not the same thing.

But if they're in your ear saying, you know, things that you want to hear or they're, you know, basically inspiring more conversation, that's the thing that I think that that really kind of gets us up in the morning and makes us want to jump in and have more of these types of conversations which these days are few and far between yeah i love it well thank you for sharing that's awesome yeah that's how we roll yeah thank you for asking we're still going to be hashtagging that trifecta before we close out for today's episode do you guys want to help me answer a listener email if you guys have time you have time we would absolutely all the time in the world for you my dear okay this one is a little bit of a long one so i'm going to just bullet point it a little bit because it is quite a long email from chris the subject matter is go forward or pull back and he tells a little bit about his history his early 40s he's been married now for 15 years fantastic loving relationship really great sex life all of those really positive things they've been having some discussions he's been listening to podcasts and recently on a holiday you know and away from kind of that stress of family life right daryl and i always say that the versions of kate and daryl at holiday kate and daryl are the best versions of our life because we don't have to clean we don't have to cook you know the drill.

And so they're around holidays and they're kind of starting to talk about possibility of swinging. You know, they're playing out some fantasies, they're talking about role play. And his dilemma is that on that holiday situation where they were very happy to talk about it, to fantasize about it, to, you know, get excited about it. Now they're back in the real life and his partner no longer wants to talk about the lifestyle. She's kind of shutting down conversations when he's bringing it up, even though, you know, when there was the carefree version of her, she seemed quite into it.

And so now he's saying, what do I do? Do I continue to bring this topic up or do I squash it? He says, I'm worried if I bring it up in a headspace that it sits at the moment, she's going to resent his motives and not really understand it.

And he says though, part of the attraction to the lifestyle is the opportunity to escape their real life, know jobs and everything else so he's saying what do i do do i bring up the topic again and let her know what i'm feeling do i squash it and he's saying he's worried really when is the opportunity going to come if they wait until those children are out of the house what are your thoughts generally do you want to go first or do you want me to go first i can tell that you have something on tip of your tongue.

So I'm going to defer, as intelligent men should, to a wife who has something to say. Stop it. I think there's a lot going on. So when you're on holiday mode or vacation mode, you become this independent person with your partner, but everything is carefree. Caution to the wind or responsibilities are tabled and they have younger children. I would guess that there's some insecurity or maybe guilt involved with being a mom that, you know, even though those fantasies may or may not, you know, occupy the back of her head space, she is not able to get them to the forefront.

And maybe it's just something fun to think about on holiday, but the day-to-day normal life is too stressful or exhausting, or maybe she doesn't see herself in that light in those environments. So I think that one's going to be a tough one to answer. I think if it's going to be brought up, maybe getting her out of that environment into somewhere where there's no kids and there's no work on Monday or no school on Monday or wherever it may be and engage in that conversation and ask her what is her hesitation, not what he's feeling. Don't start with yourself. Start with your partner.

What are your reservations? How are you feeling? What may have changed your mind? And let their answer be their answer. You know, once you've put it out there, I don't push it, especially if their answer is, I just don't feel it's me right now in this moment. And then at that point, the ball's in their court. Yeah, I agree with that. And it's important to note, everybody out there listening to, when we do get these kinds of emails, I don't. I never respond generally with do this exact scenario.

And the reason I don't do that is generally because you don't really understand the whole dynamics here. Of course, we don't know these individuals. So, I mean, all of that being said, what I normally do respond with is questions around, you know, have you thought of this? Have you done that? And Mallory, I like your point there about, you know, the headspace back home. And especially from a mother's perspective, we don't have children. So for me that I can only make assumptions. So hearing your actual, you know, opinion on it is really valuable.

And I think that that's definitely something that this gentleman is going to be able to take away and further get in her headspace. So I really appreciate your perspective on that. I do agree that some of these conversations are best served when they're not in the general day-to-day area. And even that goes with Daryl and I, you know, in your house, you've got this area, I mean, especially now that you've been living in for so long and, you know, you're thinking about all these other things, you're thinking about the dishes, the bills, the whatever.

And I think sometimes escaping even down to a bar or going away to a hotel for a night, if that's an opportunity or a possibility, does get you out of that Kate at home mode and puts you into perhaps even a sexier mind frame or more of an open mind frame. Because now I've showered, which, by the way, I did this morning just for you guys. I've showered. I've, you know, I've maybe got a machine. Thank you. I've gotten into a nice dress. Maybe I've shaved my legs. Maybe I've done my hair. I'm in makeup.

So again, my headspace and even my physical characteristics are very different to the home version of Kate.

And I think that that definitely can open up a willingness to have a discussion i also do agree though i think you got to get to a point once you do bring this up that if the other person says i don't want to talk about it you got to respect that boundary and just drop it yeah i agree what do you think mickey well there's a lot there and i think you ladies have covered some pretty important stuff but what i'm gonna kind of look at this on the other side which is there is a emotion that drives nearly everything humans do. It's fear.

So if this is a first real experience for these guys, which is there is a emotion that drives nearly everything humans do it's fear so if this is a first real experience for these guys or even an early experience for them and they've come home and they've gone back to regular life and now you're taking care of the kids and you know we kind of made a joke when we were talking this morning you and i and i said hey baby what do you wear and sweatpants same ones as yesterday right and you kind of looked at me with like two you know fuck you right but think about that for a minute.

When, you know, you're a mom, you're a husband, you know, we're in the COVID world right now. So maybe your hair hasn't been cut in a while. So there's these insecurities that pop up with regular life. So let's fast forward to now we're having sex and all of a sudden you start talking about something that happened two months ago, three months ago, four months ago that you thought that was hot and you're trying to engage in a situation to create some sexy time. But I already feel bad about myself. Maybe I feel bad because I'm not having a good day.

Maybe I don't feel good because I put on five pounds or maybe I don't feel well because I was too busy dealing with sick kids or a problem at work. All these things lead up to fear. And fear is one of those things that makes you not want to engage in something that you are afraid could be threatening. So what I would actually suggest is let her talk. Get her to talk about what she's feeling, what she's thinking. Take her somewhere and don't bring it up.

Talk about your relationship and spending time together and tell her how much you love being with her and tell her why you thought this thing was great but that if she never wants anything to do with it again that's just fine but that this was fun not because it wasn't her but because it was her she was there right and for me i think those things matter to somebody that has some amount of fear in them if she's changing the subject there's a reason why she's changing it if she's walking away from it, there's a reason why she's doing it.

Let her talk because she's going to tell you at some point what bothered her. And when it does, much to Mallory's point, when it comes out, don't have an issue with it. Don't give her a hard time about it. You can't argue somebody's emotions. That's my general rule. There's no such thing as a wrong emotion. You just have to say, I didn't mean to make you feel that way.

Yeah, there's inappropriate reactions yeah but how you feel is how you feel you really can't change that especially in the moment that's my perspective and she may not even know what it is yet sometimes it's a whole process i think something scared her to really drill it down maybe yeah and i do agree that you know he's concerned there is that there will be some resentment and and look that's a valid fear fear for him to have.

You know, I'm sure that there, I mean, when Daryl brought this up with me, you know, when we had this conversation, there is an element of fear on his behalf too, of like, what's her reaction going to be? If I bring this up, is she going to bring this up in an argument every time we fight for the next 10 years, you know? And I think these are difficult conversations. These aren't easy conversations, you know, to anyone that writes into us.

that writes into us and that's why we i don't tend to say do xyz in a stepwise process because these are hard and these are real conversations and i think that hell yeah they are you know it's important i mean some of these things that we're talking about these tools of getting out of the house having this safe space you know making it about the other person making them feel comfortable those just general things that you should do whenever you're having a hard conversation, even if it's about things like finances. You know, you should be kind of doing that same thing.

So these tools aren't just something related. They're just relationship related, I think. And it's okay to want to be heard too, right? So, I mean, tell her how you feel or him, right? If it's the other way around, tell him how you feel. But just never leave out how valuable they are to you. I think that's the thing we're all most afraid of in the end is that I'm going to be sitting alone in a pile of my own filth starving to death because my partner doesn't want me anymore. That's the thing we're all afraid of. Just remember that next time you tell me no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No.

All these women are telling me no. What the fuck? All right, guys. Well, thank you for helping to answer that listener question. I really, really appreciate it and really appreciate your time on today's podcast. You may have noticed Daryl had to step away there and actually do some work. I mean, what a killjoy. So he wasn't able to help us on that last segment. But just to wrap up again, where can people find you guys and anything else that you really want to add in there about your podcasting experience thus far and the lifestyle as well? Feel free to add whatever.

Well, I'll let Mickey add color to the conversation, but I can tell everybody where we're at. We're Casual Swinger everywhere, casualswinger.com. You can message us, podcast at Casual Swinger. On social media, that's Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. I did forget YouTube because we do transcribe our podcast for the hearing impaired, as well as the dating sites, Double Date Nation, SLS, SDC, Cassidy, Thank you. Facebook, and YouTube.

I did forget YouTube because we do transcribe our podcast for the hearing impaired, as well as the dating sites, Double Date Nation, SLS, SDC, Cassidy, Quiver. And thank you so much, Kate, for having us. This was a blast. We could probably keep you on here for the next two hours, but I don't know that you could stand us this long. I don't know. We chat once in a while. You know, the thing I'd like to say about this community is it's been so accepting and so open to join a community of people that create content that love to do the same thing we love to do.

And people that aren't in the lifestyle and that don't engage in the sort of activities that we do from time to time don't realize that it isn't about sex. It's about connecting with people on another level and being open about things that are a lot more than just sexual, which is why the show Casual Swinger that we created is a variety show. You never know what we're going to do. You never know how we're going to do it. Honestly, I mean, one, we can have a doctor on one day and the next day I get my asshole waxed. That literally happened.

But for us, the thing that I love the most is the openness of this community and the embrace that we've received from people like Kate and Daryl at Swinging Down Under. And I could name 20 others that have done the same thing. It's my favorite thing in the universe, and that we get to call all these people friends makes Mallory and I happy in places that we can't talk about at parties. So thank you, Kate, for having us. Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. Really appreciate the hell out of you and everybody else out there.

If you're wondering about all of those links that the lovely Mallory has given us twice now because she's so goddamn good at it, they're going be down in the show notes so just click on those in whatever podcast catcher you're looking at and that's going to take you straight to first and foremost the casual swing out website because as we know that is the number one but if you do want to have sex with them follow up and go on those dating sites so it's been a blast guys thank you so much and we'll talk to you guys again soon if you're looking for for more ways to interact with Swinging Down Under, you can catch us on Twitter at Swing Down Under.

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