
WANDERLUST PODCAST · Cate and Darrell
Cap D Agde V2 + Recent Swingers Parties
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Wanderlust Swingers – A Swinger Podcast Hotwife Lifestyle Stories EP206 – Cap d’Agde Recent Swingers Parties Is Cap d’Agde still the planet’s wildest swingers playground… or did we just hit it on extra-chaotic mode? In this on-the-road episode (recorded from a very “upgraded” Las Vegas suite), we recap our second 2025 run at Cap d’Agde — from Babylone poolside antics to a Le Glamour Beach foam party so packed you could crowd-surf — plus two very different European events: Flamigo Events in Belgium and the SDC 25th Anniversary World Party in the Netherlands. We talk wins, fails, costs, dress codes, and why playrooms (or the lack of them) can make or break your night. Cate also shares a real-life health check-in on managing recurring UTIs in the lifestyle and the impact on travel, play, and partnership. What You’ll Hear in This Episode Cap d’Agde, Round Two: language barriers, daytime soloing while your partner works, poolside flirtation, and making the most of peak-season crowds Babylone Pool Party: why it still tops our list for “sex-charged pool vibes” (and how to navigate it as a couple) Foam Party at Le Glamour Beach: shoulder-to-shoulder mayhem, VIP bed sticker shock, and strategies when you can’t secure a cabana Flamigo Events (Belgium): great DJs, pricey drinks, token systems, and why “sexy party” ≠ “swingers party” if there’s nowhere to play SDC World Party (Netherlands): last-minute municipal restrictions, and how to salvage a night out Costs Value: what we actually spent vs. what we got (tickets, hotels, water, and those sneaky cup fees) Safety Autonomy: why Cate feels safer at lifestyle events than at normal clubs — and how to set boundaries when attending with friends or a single guy Travel Planning for Lifestyle Events: don’t over-commit for unproven parties, read past reviews, and always have a Plan B (after-parties, club backups, pre-arranged connections) Quick Tips Takeaways Verify the format (swingers club vs. sexy dance party) before you book suites and tailor outfits. Have a backup plan: pre-message on dating sites, line up an after-party, or keep a reputable club in your pocket Mind the logistics: token drink systems, locker processes, heat/AC, and dress-down rules can heavily affect your night. Health in the lifestyle: proactive UTI management, pacing your play, and honest partner communication. Trip length matters: 4 days vs. 6 days at Cap d’Agde — what actually feels good for different personalities. Coming Up Next EP207 – How Not to Get Laid at Lifestyle Events (aka: are you “social swinging” your way out of play?). Useful Links from this Episode Libertine Events – U.S. EU Takeovers (Miami, Scottsdale and France in 2026) Patreon – BTS photos, outfits bonus audio Wanderlust Swingers Website Join SDC the worlds largest Lifestyle Swingers Dating Site Swinger Podcast, Cap d’Agde Swingers, Cap d’Agde Naturist Village, Babylone Pool Party, Glamour Beach Foam Party, European Swingers Parties, SDC World Party, Ethical Non-Monogamy, Hotwife Podcast, Swingers Travel, Lifestyle Events Europe, Non-Monogamy Tips, Swinger Clubs Netherlands, Belgium Swingers Party Review, Libertine Events, Wanderlust Swingers
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Speaker1: You're listening to the Wanderlust Swingers podcast with Aussie hosts Kate and Daryl. If you're curious about exploring your sexuality or the swinging, hot-wifing and non-monogamous lifestyle, you've definitely come to the right podcast. Or maybe you just love travel adventures. Either way, we share our personal, sometimes juicy, sexy stories as well as Swingers Club and event reviews, interviews with other sassy people and of course our global swinging adventures. We try to bring you a look into the Wanderlust Swingers podcast with Aussie hosts Kate and Daryl. the diverse lifestyle that the swinging and non-monogamous community has. We hope you enjoy. Now let's get into the episode. G'day guys and welcome to an on the road edition of the Wanderlust Swingers podcast. On the road, zooming. On the road, zooming. We are in Las Vegas in our pimped out hotel room. I mean, I'm not sure it's pimped. It's pretty good. It's pretty plush. We've got an upgrade asked at the check-in desk. We got to ask for stuff. If you don't ask you don't receive. Yeah I agree. Which happens in the lifestyle as well. If you don't ask for the goods you don't get the goods but we asked for an upgrade and we got a $1,500 a night room for $250. Yeah. Currently in Las Vegas I'm heading to Texas. Daryl's heading back to the Netherlands. Today I'm heading down to Dallas and then San Antonio to host the Libertine events takeover down there. Now for my UTI girlies I'm also on some new medication. I've just started this low dose antibiotic that's supposed to be helpful for my UTIs. And I'm going to give you guys an update on how that actually works. If it works. Hasn't? Yeah, it's not been working so far. I had a UTI. What, four days in? Yeah, I don't really hold a lot of hope for that given. It's not like, you know, they take a period of time to start working. To start kicking in. It's just like they should. Yeah. So I continue to try and make this better and figure out how to stop having so many goddamn UTIs because it is affecting our lifestyle journey for sure and our own sex life. Yeah. It's getting Ridiculous. Frustrating might be the word. Frustrating, painful, annoying, just anger inducing. All the positive things that should be associated with sex. Yeah. And another update is we are heading to London for Halloween. We haven't been to a swingers club for Halloween, what, eight years? Six years? No, it's not that long. It's a long time. You're getting crazy. You're crazy. Eight years. Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. How long have we been married for? Seven years. Oh my God. Anyway, moving on, we're going to be talking about our second trip to Kapdarg. We're going to be talking about two other parties that we also attended recently, the Flamigo Events Party and the SDC World Party. So let's just get into it. So we went back to Kapdarg. We did. We haven't spoken about the second trip before. Yet, rather. So yeah, we went back because... Oh, if I remember correctly, you got a UTI. I did get a UTI. That's exactly correct. Yeah. That's actually what led me to... He says prior to or post every event that we've gone to recently. Right. Which is what's, you know, led me to, I guess, getting more serious with doctors. I actually am going to see a physical therapist when I get back as well. So we'll see. But yes, we went back to Carp Darg because why not? It's the summer season. And we thought we'll fly there and go back and, you know, get nakey, get crazy and have a bit of fun. But you had to work. So I will say that this trip, when you were working kind of during the day and I was just a bit of a shag on a rock at the parties on my own it's it's always interesting when you're kind of not able to be there throughout the day you're you know you're in the room you're working you came out at night time but I don't know how was that for you this is kind of the first time you've been at an event or at a location and working I mean how was it for me not good not ideal would be the best way to put it although I enjoy the idea of you being out having fun by yourself as well so that was good but yeah it's certainly not Would you go back to an event or a resort or a lifestyle area and have to work again during the day? I'm not talking one or two calls, I'm talking like you did a full eight-hour shift. I would, but it's not ideal. It's certainly not what I would prefer to do. I would do it to be able to be there, but it's just not ideal. So I went for kind of an extended weekend. Now, one of the days that you were working was the pool party at the Babylon, which is normally crazy, and I went on my own, and I did go a little bit later because I wanted to go when it was hyped. I think I got there at like 3pm when it's normally really starting to kick off. I had a little drink, sat around for a little while, spoke to some people and then flirted with some people, which is why during our last carpet episode I said I need to learn French because there was two groups of younger, attractive people there and they didn't speak English. So I was trying to hit on them and flirt with them and they were like, sorry, you know, so next time I want to be able to speak French to them. but I did suck a guy off poolside. You did. So I came back and again you were working and I wasn't really updating you so when I came back in naked sunshine and you were still on a work call if I'm not wrong and you were like how is it when you're on mute and I was like yeah I sucked a guy's dick poolside and then you had to continue on your call. Yeah. So I came back and I told you. Thankfully you checked whether I was muted first which was a really good call. Also we had to make sure that there was no reflection in your laptop camera. Yeah, we made sure that I was only facing walls, no mirrors, no anything else. I also had, I mean, it's always blurred anyway. You had to get on a work call. Yep. You were naked and then you would have to get clothes on to go to work call and then get back naked again and flip-flopping around. Yeah. To enjoy, you know, the nude city. But yeah, I came back. So what happened was I, you know, was trying to flirt with these couples, that religion didn't work. There was a lady in the pool and her husband was on the side of the pool. legs dangling in the water are very, very common. And she was giving him a blowjob. And I came over and was talking to them. And I was like, can I, I said, hey, can I, can I have a taste? And she was like, absolutely. And so then I sucked his dick for a little while. And then she went back to sucking it. And then I basically left and come and told you what had happened. Yeah. When you're on the calls, though, and I'm young. What exactly drove you to do that? What was the drive? It just looked sexy. Just a good looking dick? It just looked sexy. And I thought that seems like a little bit of fun and nothing too committal. I guess so nice to kind of come back okay being on the work calls and I'm out at you know the Babylon pool party which again is a crazy sex-fueled one actually I think it is the craziest sex-fueled party in the world yeah I would say that as well certainly the craziest sex-fueled that we've seen pool side party yeah yeah that we've actually seen and you know we've been to a lot of parties around the world how was that like were you thinking were you on the calls and just wondering what I was getting up to yeah of Yeah, of course. I mean, that was a cool part. That's a cool part of the whole thing for me is just what you're doing. Are you, you know, whether you're enjoying yourself, whether you're being sexy, whether you're enjoying the event. So yeah. Do you ever get worried for my safety? So if you, if there's guys out there thinking, you know, if their partner's going to an event like this, do you ever get worried for my safety? I feel safer with you at a swingers style event than I do with you at a normal nightclub. So forgetting me being there at a, at a swingers event, I'm fairly confident that there would be other people who would help protect you as well. I think the lifestyle is much more aware that if a woman is feeling uncomfortable, that means that there's really no chance of sex. So people are very focused on making sure people are comfortable, male and female. I think that's really a very big difference between that and... in France. So do you feel that that's the same for me being a party in France? I think it's pretty much the same everywhere in the world. Versus the UK versus Australia versus America? Yeah I mean yeah. Okay however then because I was rejected we did have a quick date with actually a listener who just happened to be in at the same time as us a couple and he's also a pilot and also flies Cessna so it's quite funny so we had a little catch-up a little date with them went out to some of the clubs after but the phone party we went to on a Saturday so we're flying in on Sunday we did the We had a foam party on Saturday at Legolama Beach and we really loved the foam party but that particular day it was shoulder to shoulder. Yeah that was crazy. It was fun. I mean that was a lot of fun that party for sure. They actually tried to auction my bed too. I booked a bed off the top of my head I think it's like 250 euro and then we got there and I was like hey I have a bed and they said cool 1500 and I went never mind. No thank you. Because it was peak season so they tried to they tried to kind of auction it back off. to me, which I thought was hilarious. But we just partied in the middle. We actually had some friends from the UK who spent the entire month in carp. So they went down for the entire August. And so they were there as well. So we hung out with them, kind of pre-gamed at our apartment on Saturday. And then we went to the foam party and partied there. Had an absolutely great time. Where again, I got on my knees in the middle of the foam pit and sucked a dick. Yeah, a random dude that you didn't even know, actually. That was... You were there on this occasion tell me about that from your perspective that was dancing yeah I mean well you I mean I think it was a surprise for the guy as well I think that's possibly the first time that's ever happened to him but he was very happy that it did he got singled out by you ladies because he had a very very big very big penis very big penis yeah I mean it's lovely it's always lovely to watch it wasn't just you it was another the other lady from our group did the same as well yeah well I invited her to yeah I like seeing you have fun and being relaxed and you know about what's going on sexually as well so I thought it was really cool yeah but I like seeing you have fun did you like when you see that though because in those circumstances again I'm just kind of flittering around having a bit of fun like I suck basically I said hey can I suck your dick got on my knees in the foam pit yep sucked his dick for a while then I wasn't in the foam sorry it wasn't in the foam pit it was out in the middle of the dance floor yeah in front of the DJ in fact and then I said to my girlfriend like hey come down and suck his dick as well and so she you know she got on her knees and we were doing that for a little while but then we stopped and then we continued dancing and just having a really good time. When that scenario happens though because I'm just like flittering around having a good time do you want things to progress and do you kind of get a bit disappointed when they don't? I don't ever get disappointed but I mean it'd be nice if they did. I enjoy I mean I'd happily watch you get fucked where you were there giving heads so yeah I mean I'd be happy for that to happen but it's not it's not disappointment but certainly I would happily provide encouragement for that to be the case in future. Yeah we met actually a few other people that knew that we were there as well. So because I did put it up on the local dating sites that, you know, we were traveling there, trying to make connections. And so there was a few people that actually stopped by at the phone party and they said, hey, you know, we saw your photos, we saw your travel connection, your travel announcement on the dating site. So again, it's super important if you wanted to make connections to do that sort of thing, because people do look, they look at your photos and they see you at a party and they'll come up and introduce themselves at a party. So I met a few people, I think from the UK from Wales if I'm not Scotland that had all come over to carp so it's so so so important and then that night we actually had a bit of fun in our bedroom in our apartment we had some parallel play with a couple yep that was really fun I agree and then we fell asleep and got eaten alive by mosquitoes naked you did that was horrible yeah her and I fell asleep cuddled up together got eaten alive by mosquitoes it was horrible yeah you both did but yeah that was a quick little trip four days. What do you think about the length of time? Would you go again over a four-day period? Yeah, I think four days is kind of my maximum in terms of what I'm capable of dealing with without me needing time away from people. We just did five days and you were fine with it, but I think the four days for me, the issue is... I think four days is my limit where I feel fully comfortable. I might have just done five days. I also go to work five days a week in a role that expects me to be very outgoing. Over the last two weeks, I've been at two events that also to expect that of me. That doesn't mean that I can sustain that for any period of time, nor do I want to sustain that. That's fair enough. Yeah, I think for me, I don't think that's long enough because the flights in the transit down, getting into the village and then getting back out again, that's a day gone, really. So I don't, for me, four days just does not feel long enough. I would much prefer five or six. Yeah, I mean, but that is and has always been a difference between you and us. Yeah, that's absolutely true. In fact, actually, in 2020, We are going back in July to Carp, and it's a new location that we're going to, and I released that internally in our community, and I think we are 95% sold out already for July next year. So I love the fact that people are embracing it. I love the fact people are wanting to try new things, and I'm super excited already to go back next summer, but I think what I will do is book us another trip, a second trip that's just you and I for four days to kind of let our freak flag fly. So I'm keen for that. Yeah, it kind of sucks that it's only... Summers. Yeah, it kind of sucks. It's a bit of a bummer, but I don't know. It is what it is. What do you think of staying in the apartment this time? Good. I mean, we had a good apartment. Yeah, the apartment was very different to the last one. So yeah, I like the apartment. It helps with the sexiness, of course, when you've got a nice apartment. Yeah. That you can feel comfortable bringing people back to. So yeah, I think it was good. All right, let's talk about Flamigo party, Flamigo events party. So we drove to Belgium to go to this party. Well, it's kind of on the border of the Netherlands and Belgium. Yep. We found it advertised. It looked really interesting. It was in an old monastery type thing or an old castle type thing. It's not neither of those things. It's an old entertainment venue that's styled to look like a monastery. It's styled to look old. It's not actually that old. I think it was built in the 1980s or something. something like that it's not an old it's definitely none of those things okay yeah and so this party they were moving it there and we saw it advertised thought on sdc i think and we thought okay we'll head to do that the interesting part about us going to this particular event is we actually went with a single guy well yeah we did and this is the first time we've ever had anyone staying in our room before yep and especially a single guy we've stayed with friends maybe one night when we've been in transit yep like jay and angie i think we stayed with them one time but outside of that We've never had anyone really sleep in our room. And certainly not a single guy. So he came with us, stayed in our room, obviously in a separate bed. What was your, how'd you feel about that? Like this quasi-thruple type? I mean, it was good. I enjoy his company. I enjoyed, I enjoyed the time. I mean, the only downside is I was hoping that you might, you guys might play and you didn't. So that was, that was something I was looking forward to because I haven't seen, I haven't seen you guys together. I mean, you've played with him previously. Only once solo, but yeah, I would have liked to have, I would have liked to have, like that to have been the case. But otherwise, yeah, it was good. I mean, he was pretty, you know, he wasn't... Clingy. Yeah, I mean, we had the agreement with him when we went to the event. We said, you may want to go and hang out with some other people and we may want to as well. This is just the reality of it. So let's just make that agreement now that that may be the case. And if it happens, it happens. And if we end up deciding to play together, then you and him decide to play together. That would be a good outcome as well. But there wasn't... I think one of the things I enjoy about him is... that it's not, this is not, you know, we're not tight at the hip. Yeah, and I think that discussion and those kind of prerequisites are really important to have, not just because of that scenario, you know, that dynamic was quite unique where we were taking a single guy to an event, but I think even if you go with friends to an event, that sort of discussion needs to happen before you go, because you want people to know, hey, we are not beholden to each other right now. If you find somebody you want to go and connect with, go do that, we're going to do the same, because we don't want to meet a couple, for example, with a single guy who assumed that we came as a thruple together. You know, we don't want them to go, oh, okay, we're going to write you guys off because you're a thruple and we're not necessarily vibing with a single guy. We want to make it very clear that, hey, we are not tied to the hip. We are not coming as a package deal. And the same thing with friends. If we were there with a group of friends and then we were connecting with a couple, I would hate for the other people to write us off because it looks like the quad kind of comes as a package deal. Yep, absolutely. So those dynamics are really important to discuss up front so everybody knows where they stand. There's no miscommunication. There's no hurt feeling. If we just like, you know, if we fucked off and the other couple felt like we'd abandoned them, this will make it really clear that, hey, we're going to go off and play. And that does not mean all four of us are going to play. It could, but it's not guaranteed. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. Let's talk about the party. So this was another party where it was advertised as a swingers party. But after going there, I would say it is a, Sexy Party? Sex Positive Party, but not necessarily Swingers Party. Not a Swingers Party. So there was supposed to be playrooms. There was no playrooms on site, which we were really, really bummed about. They had a bit of a meet and greet before the party, which is a little bit unusual, but we're seeing that also at the SDC World Party, which we'll talk about in a bit. When we first turned up to that pre-mingle, what was your impression? Yeah, it wasn't. It was a bit of a scary introduction to the group that was to follow, I suppose. It was definitely an older group of people, even by my standards. So, you know, given I'm 50 now, older is a stretch for many. I think that was, and also, I think when I, and I hope that most people recognise this from listening to our podcast, Rob, when I talk about older, in many cases, it's not that they're older, it's just that they've kind of given up. It's not an age-based thing. It's not necessarily about the age. You know, I've been in groups of 30-year-olds where everyone's dressed like they're 60, and it's still not attractive. I think that's the big deal for me. And then there were, so there was a group, there were a group there at the pre-meet that really set a concerning expectation for the... Yeah, just frumpy. Yeah, they just, they, yeah. Yeah, just frumpy and like lack of effort, I guess. If you go to a meet and greet, you want to put your best foot forward, look nice. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be your best foot, but it should be a foot. Yeah. Yeah, so the party didn't have any playrooms. I think that the venue was fine, really, like they had the lock, the locker set up, which was good. They had, you know, the DJ area, the bars and everything. So I think the venue was perfectly okay. Yeah, yeah, I agree. No, I think the venue was nice. I mean, was it ideal? No, but it's very rare you find an ideal venue that isn't a specifically designed swingers event venue, you know? Well, you know, one of the two of the DJs were actually really good. I actually went up and spoke to one of the DJs because I said, hey, your set was fabulous, like really, really good. So the DJs were pretty good. There was one or two that were crap, That's buyer's choice. Everyone has a different style and likes different kind of music. But I will say some of the cons. So it was six euro for a glass of water and they handed me tap water in a glass that had lipstick stains on it. Yeah. And I paid six dollars for the privilege. Yeah, the drinks were quite expensive at that event as well. If memory serves, it wasn't, it was, yeah, in many ways not ideal. I also hate the, it's a personal preference, I'm sure, but there was a ticketing or a token scenario at this event. and the next event we'll talk about as well. It just pisses me off. I just hate having to go to one place, then go to another place. It's just like, yeah. Anyway, I'm sure most people are used to this, but it just annoys me. Yeah. So I think all up for this party, we actually spent, I worked it out, it's at home. I can't remember how much it was. It was 580, maybe 580 or 600, including the hotel room, the drinks, the ticket. Now, I will say something sexy that happened. I don't know if you're aware of this. or were aware at the time perhaps. Probably aware after. The next morning though, after I got out of the shower, I came by and sucked your cock. And our single guy was actually over in his bed. I thought he was asleep. No, he wasn't asleep. Did you know he was watching? Yeah. Did you make eye contact with him? No. Okay. Did you pretend that you didn't know he was watching? No, I just was more, I was getting my dick sucked. I didn't give a fuck what he was doing. Okay, I thought he was asleep. And so it wasn't until we went to breakfast and he texted me and he was like, Like, hey, that was nice. Thanks for putting on a show. And I had absolutely no idea that he was awake and saw that. Adam. What? No. How not? I thought he was asleep because he came back at like four in the morning. I figured he would be sleeping. The dude snores, Bo. He wasn't snoring, was he? Doesn't he snore? Holy shit. That's probably like the worst part of that. Yeah, he is quite the snorer. Rating. What would you rate that event? Would you go again? Okay, so I liked the event, but let's be clear. The event was not what it was advertised to be. It was advertised as a swingers event and it didn't, they didn't have anywhere to play. Yeah. Well, they did, but it was right beside the dance floor and there wasn't any. It was two couches, right? And it was two couches. It was small. So this was not, it was advertised as a swingers party. It was not a swingers party. I'm okay with that. I don't mind that it's not a swingers party. Just don't advertise it that way. That pisses me off. I don't think I would go again because it didn't. Go again, but I'd go with a different mindset. I would. To the next one. Yes, but this particular, the crowd there was definitely not. No, maybe not that group. That's what I mean. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. But the event, the event was nice. The group, the group. Yeah. So I think those things combined would make me go, no, I'm not, you know, I didn't find anybody. There was a few people, but I didn't find, you know, a bulk of people to be attractive and interesting to me. And then you add on top of that, all the other concepts mentioned. However, what I will say is that I was due to have my period. And because we're going with our single guy, And because we're going to a swingers party, I delayed my period. I took medication to delay my period so I could play. Yep. Now, I'm pissed off about that because by delaying my period for that particular event, which again, as I said, I give it a low rating, I wouldn't go back. Party and me delaying my period for this party actually had a fall in effect and impacted two other events of mine. So it pissed me off. Let's move on and let's talk really quickly about the SDC World Party. So SDC turned 25 and they had a party in the Netherlands, 1,200 people attended. So quite a lot. Yeah. Huge, huge venue. They had five or six different areas where they had different DJs playing different types of music. The venue was massive. They had a huge locker area, that locker system that they had, I thought worked really, really well. That's quite a good positive. When we first walked in, they had some performers. some stilt walkers and like a photo area there were people that were quite well dressed and then there were people that were not at all the lead up to the event nobody knew what was required in terms of dress in terms of even how the event was going to lay out they falsely advertised what was going to be at the event well let's talk about that so there was supposed to be playrooms at this event and the organizers and there was five organizers the organizers since this event like the next day had put out a statement. So they did put out an official statement apologizing for the lack of playrooms on site and advising people that the local municipality had at the last minute told them you cannot have playrooms on site. Yeah, it's almost like you should know that before you advertise an event though. And I think, do you remember seeing police later walking around at the event? Yeah. That's why they were there. They were there to make sure that there was adherence to what the municipality had said. late last minute and as a result of that they were not able to have playrooms on site but it's also why people weren't allowed to actually dress down and get into sexy lingerie because it yeah some people were actually asked to change back into less sexy gear that and that's what the police were there to do was to enforce that so if they saw people in dressed down into lingerie making it or engaged in sexual acts anywhere they were there to actually enforce that and stop people from doing that so it's it's an unfortunate situation that I guess the way that this event was advertised, the way it was perceived, what we thought we were getting into, didn't happen. Now, the... I feel that a business that's been around as long as that should have a better capability when it comes to making sure this is organised right. Yeah, I mean, shit does happen. You know, there was a hotel takeover here in the US that last minute, I think the week before their event, corporate head office came down and said, no, you can't host it there, even though they did have a contract with the hotel itself. So shit happens and sometimes things are unavoidable, but I think making sure that the event still runs well, that people are still happy that you're communicating with people what's going on. I think that's the piece here that was a little bit missing because people didn't know they weren't playrooms until they got on site. Keep in mind the prices for the drinks on the walls were inaccurate. Yes, yeah. Because they charged you then as well for the cup or bottle that the drink came in that you weren't able to return. Get a refund on. So, I feel that every aspect of this was misleading, not just the initial advertising, because when you got to site, there was still things there that were misleading. Yeah. Well, again, there was multiple event organisers. So I think that... Let's not get into the fact that there was a, the air conditioning didn't work in parts of the venue as well. And they're literally people who passed out due to heat exhaustion. I mean, I just... Yeah. The cons for me, so definitely no playroom was a con. the heat, crazy. You know, you were in a suit, you'd had to take your jacket off and roll your sleeves up, like I saw many gentlemen doing. Also, you weren't able to dress down. So there was a guy who unbuttoned, I think, three buttons and he was told he had to do one of them up because his shirt was too far unbuttoned. And so that was really, really tough. Price of drinks and water, again, I think we were paying €8 per bottle of water. We spent €230 on drinks that night. Just the lack of sexy dress down. You know, I did appreciate the fact that they were initially trying to do this kind of red carpet gala look. And then it kind of did go a little bit pear-shaped at the end. I mean, let's give the people respect that had actually put in effort with their outfits. There were quite a few people who were in big long dresses. Yeah, there were people who didn't, but they were entirely undermined by the fact that there were people literally there in thong flip-flops and t-shirts. Like, they didn't in any way protect their event at the door to make sure people got what they were expecting. And that's because, again, from start to finish, the organization of that was not good. Because nobody knew what the expected dress was. You know, it started as advertising one thing, which was red carpet, you know, red carpet wear, which says ball gowns and tuxedos or, you know, suits. And before we arrived there, it had slipped all the way to where you can wear your superhero outfit. Yeah, I think, so let's talk about a few of the positives. What I would say this was, again, it was not a swingers party because there wasn't playrooms. It was filled with people that were in the lifestyle, but it was also filled with people that just want to come and have a bit of a rave. So it was, again, it was a sexy party, not a swingers party. But I think that was okay. That's what I'm about to say. Because there were different areas where that was appropriate. Yes, which I think, so they had five different areas, which had five different genres of music playing, five different bars. They had the mainstay. which had the performers on there and that was kind of the big area. And they had performers in other areas as well that were, you know, I know that one of our friends was there, Kerry Gold, she was performing. And I think that was all really cool. If I'd have gone there with the mindset of let's go, let's dance and go to a dance party and a rave party. Yeah, it's fun. I would have been happy with it. I think that because I went there with the mindset, and we had friends that went who had that mindset and they were like, yeah, it was great. Because for them, they only went to drink and dance and rave whereas we went because we were thinking it was a swingers party so i think that if i'd have gone with that mindset i would have had a better time the heat and stuff was still bothersome but i would have had a better time i think that because i went with the mindset of like i was a swingers party i felt let down because of the fact that we're also coming off the back of this other party in belgium having thought the same thing so this party i think all up we spent 680 euro for that one night not including the outfits that we had purchased yep so would i go to that party I would, but with the caveat that I probably wouldn't get a hotel room this time, I would go with a different mindset that it's a dance party, a sexy party, and not a swingers party. Yeah. What about you? Yeah, exactly. It's the same thing. But I, yeah, I have a significant issue with how that party was advertised and organised. Yeah, yeah. And they have made apologies after, and they've offered people some vouchers and stuff like that. But, you know, I think that had it been communicated in advance, that would have left a little bit of a better taste in people's mouths. Well, at the event, they were charging 50 cents more a drink than what it was advertised. And you were unable to recoup that 50 cents as you would normally in any other European event or festival. You were unable to recoup that in any way. Yeah. Let's talk about tips and lessons learned then as we get ready to finish out the podcast, because I also have to do go to the airport and get on my flight. So make sure the party is going to be what you're looking for to avoid disappointment, financial loss, potential missed play opportunities. So for this party, I probably would have preferred to actually just go to fund for two or fata morgana go to one of the clubs instead for that night yep to be honest agreed so that was a missed play opportunity for us however if you're unsure look at past reviews consider not committing fully so we went in we had the big hotel room suite i got the biggest one i could get we had brand new outfits you got your suit altered i got a beautiful new gown yeah but again that was on the that was on the expectation so maybe it was being advertised this is a new don't commit fully like what we did we went and we committed fully Maybe you could lessen your loss by not doing all those things. Again, pass reviews if you're going to a new party. And the third one is consider having a backup plan. We did not have a backup plan. So we didn't, because we thought it was going to be something else, we hadn't taken the time to like go on the site, look at who was going, message them, arrange details, plan an after party. And so again, looking back, that would have been something. So consider having a backup plan if you're going something new, get on the dating sites, connect with people beforehand, have a backup plan, have a party, a pre-party, a post-party, connect with people so you can have that connection and salvage, I guess, the evening, if it is that you're wanting to play. Yeah. I mean, we were there, so we also, single guy friend who was at the last event, he was there as well with a... Girlfriend. Yeah, friends with Benefit girlfriend, I suppose the best way to put it. We had a good time with them. We enjoyed dancing and chatting and all that sort of stuff, but yeah. Yeah, we had a good night, but it was because... It was just a disappointing night. because it wasn't what we expected. No, exactly right. So coming up next, we're going to talk about how to not get laid at lifestyle events. And are you two social swinging, socio-swingers, and stopping you from getting laid? So that's coming up on the next episode. We're going to talk about how to not get laid at lifestyle events. But until next time, guys, hope that you enjoyed that kind of carp and other parties you've been to, you know, not always knocking things out of the park. It's not always home runs, but, you know, that's life, right? That's the lifestyle. All right, I gotta get bored of my flight, guys, because otherwise I'm gonna miss my flight to Dallas. But until next time, we'll see you guys later. Thanks for listening. Thanks, folks. Bye.
