C Caught Between a Rock and a D – P42

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This is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under. Welcome to, I'm going to say, a pretty special episode. Oh, really? Why special? Well, what we're talking about today is a recent single male or hashtag manicorn date that was a raging success. A raging cowgirl walking success. A rock hard success. A sturdy, strong, firm success. Yeah, suck-cess, exactly. Before we get into that though, we did have another failed date before this particular awesome date and we just kind of wanted to cover off on some things that we learned.

And we've learned these already in the last two and a half years. Yeah. We continue to learn them. Yeah. Well, I use the term learn loosely. Yeah. Because that would insinuate that you've learned something and you've moved on. And you use that learning next time around. Yes. To prevent dumbness.. Okay. So apparently we're still in the process of learning. Of becoming less dumb. But the point is that I guess you continue to grow and I don't think it'll ever stop. I don't know. We're two and a half years in. It's nearly three years, babe. You keep saying two and a half.

We're like a month away from three years. It's time to round up. Oh, is it? Yeah. I don't know. Anything past six months, you round up. Anything over 30, you're still 30? What? Age thing. I was trying to be funny. How'd that work out for you? Great.

Just ask the audienceickets the crickets chirping but uh what we found recently on a date that we were heading out to was i guess that there was a number of things that were going wrong we just need to say straight up straight up front gotta say trust the swing of gods trust the swing of gods when they give you enough signals to tell you not to go to something, be smart, don't go. Yeah, the swing of gods. Stop trying to make it happen and just let it not happen? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So what went wrong? What was the... Well, let's start out from the very beginning. Right.

From the very beginning, we had a lot of trouble even conversing with these guys with this couple they were they were difficult to get hold of and they wouldn't give us photos oh i think they gave us a couple but yeah i know where you're going with that it was it was a very it was a grind yeah it was a real grind to to chat with them yeah but when they did chat they were kind of you know they were they seemed okay so that sort of made it okay yeah but okay so swinging god one I don't know.

chat with them yeah but when they did chat they were kind of you know they seemed okay so that sort of made it okay yeah but okay so swinging god one i think the second thing for me was that we had a very small window of opportunity so we were pushing a date into a monday or tuesday night and we'd already had um we'd already had a date on the sunday night and we'd had a date lined up later in the week and so it was this like we're we're forcing and we're pushing a date in very little time frame and so i guess my my my second thing is you know don't try to push too many things into don't over commit essentially yeah and add to that when when the Uber driver loses you twice, then ignores your calls for five minutes.

Yep. That's also another, you know, so what are we, like strike three or four now, I think, where we're a few strikes in. But I guess what we learned from this, what actually ended up happening was we turned up finally at the venue a little bit late. I just want to step back a little bit and say, yeah, sometimes Uber can suck as well. Uber. Yeah. Just an FYI to everybody out there who's a big cab bagger. I like Uber, but this time around, no good. Not that great. No good. No good. One star rating. Oh, man.

If I could have rated the guy who just drove away from us and kept driving away and wouldn't answer the... Because you cancelled that too. Did you have to pay the fee? Oh, man. No. No, that's good. So, we finally turn up at the venue and guess what? We're at the wrong venue. Well, actually, we're both at different venues. Let's just say that.

Let to be i don't know reasonable try and make ourselves sound smarter than we actually are well the thing was is that they recommended to go to the shangri-la the shangri-la hotel well-known brand they knew where we were staying in this particular suburb and we turn up there and they're at a different Shangri-La. Yeah, so... An hour away. Lo and behold, there are five Shangri-La's in Manila. Yep. Which obviously being inward guests to the country and city, we did not know that. We do now though.

We do do so given that the people we're catching up with were locals one would think it prudent to let you know which of the five shangrelas you may actually be attending so response solution confirm the exact address well can just confirm an address yeah yeah so yeah i mean that was sort of the last straw at this point it was what 9 p.m after 9 20 and trying to find everything and at that point i decided to listen i think we decided actually to listen to the to the um swing of gods well what we were facing was it was a school night it was another 45 minutes to an hour's drive from where we were in the worst traffic imaginable so that's placing you at nine to about 10 10 quarter past 10 and then you that's your first time meeting people so you've got a small window of opportunity to meet them to make a connection and then if you want to progress further you're playing on the first date and it's already kind of starting to get a little bit squished yeah yeah i do understand though why manila is the first city on the planet to have uber heli yeah because a helicopter would have been absolute godsend well actually when we took off on the plane um the whole time i was thinking wow it'd be really quick if we could just fly jets around the country everywhere yeah rather than driving for three hours yeah it's got to land them somewhere so helicopters probably you know better yeah a little better a little better anyway i guess what we wanted to share was you can learn something so can we get away now from the really horrible shit and get onto some cool stuff all right take it away oh what am i taking away i I don't know.

Someone's virginity, I'm sure. So, I think you've got something to say first up, actually. Do I? Yeah, as a precursor to this entire single man conversation. Oh, yes.

So, originally, we actually weren't we weren't 100 confirming again there was difficulty in calendars we were everyone was really busy um we had something on he had something we struggled to find a date and because we already had three dates lined up we thought let's not make it a fourth now the couple that we spent a bit of time with on the sunday had actually caught up with this guy yeah and he came highly recommended yeah and then after we had the whole flaccid incident with that couple i thought potential opportunity here potential recovery let's try and squeeze this date in let's try and make time for this date squeeze it in that's a an appropriate comment which we'll come back to a little later so we we reached out and and he was also interested to meet with us and fit us in he was a lot he was a lovely guy the whole conversation up to this he was a he was a spectacular communicator you know there were a lot of things going well but i think you've missed my what i was pointing out in the notes here is in terms of what there's one one line there.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting to. Well, you're taking your time. Don't try to steal my date, bitch, was what I'm getting to. So the couple from Sunday, after we had met with them, later messaged us and said, hey, we're having an orgy party for couples on Thursday night. We're going to invite this guy.

What are you guys doing come along and we were like well this is awkward because he knows them maybe he already knew about that and we were trying to fill it out whether or not he wanted to go to that or meet with us on our own and we didn't want to be disrespectful so the simple feel out was that d ended up sending a message i look at that i thought i spoke about myself as a third person. Nice work. Yeah. It's like there's two of me here. So I sent a text message or whatever the message media was to ask whether he knew of the event and whether he was going along to that.

And his response actually, I think, stepped him up the ladder for both of us as well, didn't it? Yep, absolutely. Because we were feeling like, oh, maybe we don't want to sidebar him or be sidebarred, I guess. Yeah, because it was a bit awkward, given that they're good friends as well. Yeah, that's right. So what we ended up having to do was ask the question.

And when question was asked his response was fantastic he said i actually much prefer um just a male female intimate or intimate intimate setting um i prefer the dynamic i prefer the passion involved i prefer the intimacy um so he really answered that question which worked well for us because I was not interested in going round two with the couple that couldn't perform and wasn't interested really in engaging except for her. And additionally, not only that, we didn't know the other two couples who were attending. There was a whole lot of things along with that that made it not interesting.

And also, I think, now we haven't actually given his name yet. The Rock. Yeah, which is an appropriate name. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Rock. The Rock. The Rock. So, his nickname is The Rock.

And, yeah, he did a fantastic job of answering that question and also did a really good job up until that point as to how I suppose how to get into C's pants so so you mentioned before he was a good communicator and he communicated you know during before we got there during we were there you know lead up to even on the night he was in constant communication you know telling us if he was on time going to be late what the situation was.

I he's just a fantastic communicator yeah well i mean he was um concerned that his night might stretch because he was in manila for business as well so he was concerned his night might stretch so as soon as he got wind of that at work he sent us a message to say hey guys just so you know i know we'd set up for eight it might be 8 30 you know and this was i'm gonna say like two o'clock in the afternoon yeah and then he gave us a further update around six or seven because i responded hey we're getting ready we're easygoing we'll go get a drink we'll get a table just come when you can come along yeah so um so he also said one thing which you know made this blue What was that?

I hope you don't mind, but I'll still be in my suit. So, he's already in seaman lingerie. And I think I said that as well. I was like, you're already dressed down for the evening, are you? Basically. But also, I think one thing that I wanted to mention, and this is, I guess, a little bit of a... We figured this out after the fact, is that, in fact, it had been for us five months of having penetrative sex issues between me and another man in the lifestyle. Yeah, let's... You mentioned only the penetrative sex there, but I think the real issue is not the penetrative sex.

It's the fact that there was no other... Yeah, engagement. No other engagement after the guys had issues. Guys have issues. We've all covered this. You've heard this over many podcasts. But the guys that have had issues have then just sort of withdrawn from the situation. Yeah, they get a bit shocked, I guess, or they don't really know how to manage it. But, I mean, they've almost vaporized in the room. Yeah. Which is really difficult because now you're sitting there as a third wheel, effectively. Hey, I think I add some spice. Don't get me wrong.

There is all wrong with uh with a three-wheeler but you know yeah it's still called a tricycle isn't it rather yeah so i guess reflecting on that we've had some we've had some concerns some difficulties and some hard conversations about the lifestyle and where where we place and how we feel about it and reflecting on that would be i guess a lot to do with this or some some part of it is to do with this you know having I don't know.

where we place and how we feel about it and reflecting on that would be i guess a lot to do with this or some some part of it is to do with this you know having perceived lack of fun um you know in the bedroom in the lifestyle and there's many facets to the lifestyle communication etc we've covered this before but this was something that was a bit of a light bulb moment for us yeah absolutely for you yeah yeah not really that much of a surprise to me it kind of was actually you were like wow five months that's a long time yeah well i mean the the time period is long yes but you know we still sneak in our occasional penetrative sex you and i oh yes of course we're just talking about once every two months out of that, five months, like roundabout.

That's just accidental. Rounding up. Because you fell over. Yeah, exactly, and you just happened to be laying there. So, yeah. Oh, wow. That was awkward. So, what was the next choice for us was which bar? Because, again, we don't know the city. No, we don't.

And trying to find a trendy, sexy um slightly intimate but still happening bar yeah a little bit tough it wasn't as easy as we thought it would be but we ended up doing that we persevered we did we tried three different bars i think and we did and we found one that was really quite cool with the right ambiance now the ambiance is is important for us it's more important than we i think we give it credit for care to elaborate sir well we don't i think we struggle in a bar that smells bad one we experienced that earlier in the week you know we struggle in a bar that is really overly noisy or too quiet or bad service or bad service or yeah i suppose Thank you.

You know, we struggle in a bar that is really overly noisy or too quiet. Or bad service. Or bad service or... Yeah, I suppose you're right. You kind of want it to be... When you wrap all those up into one, you know, shitty bar cigar, like we had the first night that we caught up, we were going to catch up with somebody. It doesn't make for a very sexy... No, it doesn't get the juices flowing straight up. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Yeah. So he arrived and actually, in fact, he wasn't as late as he had anticipated as well.

So he was slightly earlier than his revised, I guess, arrival time, which was nice. And by that point, we'd already ordered a bowl of wine.

I think it was only like 10 past 8 when he finally arrived which is you know so again single guys under promise over deliver you know it's not that hard to say look this is the time that I'm going to be add a little bit more say I'm hoping I could be there by then you know you make yourself look a hell of a lot better when you turn up early that's true yeah that's true so we had bottle of wine yep snacks ordered nibblies nibblies yeah he turns up should we should we cover the nibblies that we'd ordered in anticipation no i think we need to go into nibbly depth i think we should no no the nibblies we ordered at the hotel oh those, those nibblies.

I think I did have that, the cheese platter, not cheese platter. I think it's actually further down in the evening. Cheese, not cheese. Yeah. In anticipation, because he had seemed like quite a nice guy, in anticipation we'd actually ordered a cheese platter from the hotel. And a bottle of wine. And a bottle of wine. Delivered to the room. It was a package. Ready to go. Oh, my God. It was like a bowl of cheese. Here's where I was at with that. We'd walk into the room, in our suite, actually. We'd walk into our suite.

And there would be this beautiful bottle of wine in a cooler with glasses sitting around. There'd be a cheese platter. And I would be like, yeah, that's right. Bitch got game. Yeah. But instead instead I was like, wah, wah. Instead we walked into a bowl of cheese, literally a bowl, and a bottle of wine that hadn't even been put in the fridge. The whole thing was just a bit of a down. Yeah, but we recovered. Anyway, that was just my little foray into the future. I guess, though, the usual chit-chat occurs over dinner, right?

You're meeting somebody, there's the usual questions, work, personal life, all of those casual questions, and then you roll into something a little bit more sexy. How did you get into the lifestyle? How did you hear about it?

He told us a funny story about how he came out to his brother as a swinger and his brother, no his brother came out to him actually as a swinger and he was sitting there trying not to wet himself laughing because he'd been in the lifestyle for like a couple years yeah two years as a single guy so then he said it's okay i'm also a swinger yeah keeping it in the family so now they have a new conversation or new discussion every time they catch up yeah actually he's so his brother lives somewhere in the states i think also yeah so yeah it's an interest so if you happen to be the brother of a single man who is traveling into asia pacific asia pacific manila in particular last week yeah and listening to this podcast hello what do you, and also, you know, feel free to travel around.

Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, feel free to come on down. Yeah. Come on down to Manila. No one on Manila is not going to do it. Come on down to Singapore. Exactly. But, I mean, you know, during the evening, to get into the next part, this is where, I mean, we have amazing, interesting conversation. There's a little bit of light touching. Not enough for you.

Do you want to get into the next part this is where i mean we have amazing interesting conversation there's a little bit of light touching not enough for you do you want to go into that no no no no hang on hang on let me step back so um i think he was very appropriately um touching you throughout the evening he he was um always always you know either engaged with eyes of conversation or he had a hand on your shoulder or on your forearm or something like that, occasional leg touch, you know, all totally appropriate conversational touching effectively is what I think.

So I thought he was really good at that.

My concern was when we got back to the hotel room and i mean we'd had our conversation to to be sure that we were both interested in in him at this point and uh i was concerned at the fact that you weren't engaged with him touch-wise like you weren't you weren't touching him anywhere near as much as i thought you should be to give him the idea that you were interested in and see this is where this is where we differ a little bit because i don't know whether you recognize when i do touch people i don't think that because it's not this amazing big display of you know eroticism i don't know whether you pick it up all the time because I touched him at least 10 times throughout the date.

Do you recall that? Yes. Okay. Absolutely. Most of those 10 times I believe occurred back in the restaurant rather than when you were sitting side by side. Yeah. But anyway, so they did. Yeah, more in the restaurant, yeah. So. That's where I thought we're still at because you've got here light touching and nothing. Yeah, yeah. So we've already moved into the hotel room. Have we? Yeah. Because we didn't mention that I invited him back. Oh, well, let's get on to that then. Nothing, that's all I wanted to say. I invited him back and he said yes. Woo-hoo. Yeah. Little Miss Fancy Pants over here.

I managed to get a single guy to come back to my hotel room. That's when I give myself a high five. Yeah, go on then. One-handed. One-handed high five has been done. So my concern, I mean, I was concerned with the lack of touching in the hotel room. On the couch. On the couch in the hotel room. So we poured the glasses of wine. Yeah, well, I mean, there's wine, there's cheese. We've already covered that. I mean, there's, I'm doing air quotes, there's wine and cheese and crackers. They were actually crackers. And music. And music. Oh, yeah. We educated him as well.

More conversation about the swinging lifestyle. Yeah, absolutely. He's a very interesting guy. He is, and this is where it gets a little bit tough for me. Because we have a limited amount of time, I was super engaged in knowing more about this man and his life, his personal life, his lifestyle life, his swinger life i'll throw a question at you did you want to shag him yes but that's not my problem my problem is lack of time i would have lived to spend more time talking to him and it just got to the point where time was becoming a difficult resource we didn't have a lot of time.

Well, it was very simple. You did your, you know, we can continue to talk with the guy now. And we do. We're still talking with him now. Yes, but there's a difference between talking over social media and stuff like that and then actually talking face-to-face. I agree.

I just don't want to be painted as the as the you know the nasty man who who um forces his wife into lingerie forces his wife in the lingerie yeah so what did you say to me next honey oh what are you gonna you're gonna leave it like that and make me sound like such a bastard is that what's happening yeah Because it's amusing to me, mostly. Yeah. So, what happened was, as you were relaxing, the rock had his arm over your shoulders. Can I? I mean, I've really interrupted. Did you notice a hard cock at any point in time? What?

Did you notice the shape of his cock to understand how big he might be? You think I'm looking at his crutch? Is that what you're asking? I'm just asking if you notice because, like, I'm just curious. Oh. I probably should pay more attention to that. It just occurred to me just now. So, back to the touching thing. You can't just... Well, I suppose you can. About to have sex with a man, so what's the difference, really?

There we go.'s that light bulb realization i was looking for it happened i actually saw it was a little bit well it was a bulb it kind of fizzled it fizzled i just for you i would like to say that d knows me very well and he knows that he knows when i'm in different moods and he knows when to push things along. What he's about to say is not a reflection of him being a bad person or a bad husband or a bad singer. Now you've made everybody think that I am a bad person. No, I'm not. I'm trying to say that you know how to help me along and you know what I want. You see the signals.

I know when you're frozen like a kangaroo in the headlights of a car yeah and that's where you were at the lack of touching sort of gave that away so heads up next time around you want to find out what a man might might be hung like or you know might have you can actually just politely reach over and give that thing a touch up okay what do you reckon all right then so i uh noticing that the the night had stalled and knowing that she did want to progress further from here i actually said to her perhaps you could the word of the conversation the word show came up now i can't remember why the word show came up but it was something to do with like a oh that's because of your um your bar you went to with some clients the week earlier your titty no titty bar whatever so that came up and i said well perhaps you could put on a show for the rock like you know you've got some nice lingerie here could perhaps we could perhaps a bit of a show.

And you took the chance to say yes. You walked into the room, put on said lingerie. I was having a chat. The conversation continued when you weren't there, which is great. That's another thing that's important. Of course, it would be awkward if it wasn't. Yeah, but it shows that the guy is not just interested in you, right, and in getting laid. He's actually interested in us as a couple. That's an important factor. So then you walk back out. Yep. I mean, I can explain this, but it's better off coming from your perspective because you're the one sitting there on the couch.

You're the one seeing what's going on. I'm walking out. I can tell that, but... Yeah, so you walk walk back out and what was the reaction from the room uh hi there yeah yeah absolutely that was the reaction yeah you walked out into a room with two men in it in lingerie and the whole room said hi there yeah yeah that's exactly what happened they uh there was swooning There was compliments. You did a twirl after me asking you to. I did a little booty shake. You did a little booty shake, which was cute. And what was your next comment after that? Let's go into the bedroom. So as we can see...

I feel like that's pretty straightforward. But as we can see, folks, the time from when you put lingerie on, walked out into the other room and then asked for us to move back to the bedroom. What was the timing on that? 20 seconds? Yeah. So I'm just using this as evidence of how you actually did want to go to the room. You were keen to get there. Yeah. There's no denying. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just hilarious because you're like, oh, I can't believe you instigated me putting a lingerie on.

And then within 20 seconds of walking out in lingerie, you're like, let's get this shit off me and get this stuff started started so we move into the bedroom and this is kind of where i mean it's funny listening to other swingers podcasts because i you always laugh when people just don't get the series of events actually by their timeline and even thinking about it i'm like well we did that and we did this and then we moved on to that. No, that's right. He was going down on me first. Oh, but then I had your cock in my mouth. Was that later? I don't know.

This is where it gets a little bit blurry. Yeah. And this is just with three people in the bedroom. So you can imagine four, five, six, seven. Yeah, yeah. Impossible to remember. Yeah. But essentially we start dressing down. Well, I think I can add a little bit. Please, please do so. In fact, you walked in and he asked us both if he could kiss you. And you said yes. I didn't get a chance to say yes. I actually, I thought I asked if I could kiss him. I could be wrong. There's a blur. I think it was the other way around. So, and then you realized how tall he was. Quite tall, actually.

I think I actually said something to him about that. Yes, you did. I think it was, wow, you're tall. Yeah, because you were up on your tippy toes. And he was still well taller than you. Because he's probably got three or four inches on me, I think. Yeah.

And you're already on your tippy toes to he was still he was still well taller than you because he's probably got three or four inches on me i think yeah and you're already on your tippy toes to kiss me so we were i was kissing him and i was starting to kind of unbutton his shirt and undress him a little bit we were kissing and you and d comes in for the assist yeah you come in and kind of start removing my lingerie from the back Well, I unbuckled your bra Unbuckled?

Wow, it sounds like it was my ye olde bra Yeah I undid your bra I mean, there's a new meaning to the word, like, passed down I unclasped your bra Yeah, and what was your reaction to that? Do you remember your comment? No, what did I say? You said, I only just put it on. Ah. Didn't you? I don't remember. Yeah, you did. You're like, I only just put this on. And I said, the best lingerie spends the least time on your body. That is a measure of good lingerie. So, time, price per wear. Oh. Price per wear on lingerie is not a factor you take into account. You can't. No.

There's no return on investment if you look at it like that. Nope. So, I'm undressing him, and then I turn around and I start kissing on you, actually, after that point, and I'm undressing you. Yep. We're all undressing each other. But you knew how to get my clothing. You're familiar with my particular clothes that I was wearing. So you got my clothing off quicker. He was in a business shirt, so he had the cuffs and all that sort of stuff to undo, which you kind of forgot about. And he got trapped in his shirt because you trapped him. No, I just moved on to you.

I unbuttoned the front of his shirt, and then I was moving and working on you. You've got to share the love. Yeah. So you unbuttoned my shirt, you undid my belt, and by that point, I reached down, took off your... Panties. Your panties. You love the word panties. I love the word panties. Say it again. Panties. So you... I reached down and took off your panties, and then you turned around and started kissing on him again. Yes. And I actually thought this is probably a good time for me to just kick on over to the other side of the bed and just relax and watch what was going on.

No, you started going down on me. For like a fraction of a second, yes. You did. You were going down on me and I was kissing him. He was like touching my boobs, rubbing my neck. Yeah. You were going down on me. For seconds. Really? Yep. Seconds. Lazy. That's what everybody out there is hearing right now. Lazy. Jeez, man, that is lazy. Lazy shit. Yeah. Huh? Couple of seconds. That's all you got. That's all I had.

I was there and then I thought I'll just let you two have some fun because it had been a while since you'd managed to play with the guy as we established five five months um that so i wanted you to have some time right then how was it that i then came to be sucking your cock uh because uh he at that point still had his undershirt on and his pants and his shoes and socks and And he, at that point, still had his undershirt on and his pants and his shoes and socks. And I said, see, there is way too much clothing on way too many men in this room.

So, you then proceeded to take the rest of the remainder of his clothes off. I proceeded to take my clothes off because I'm a pervert apparently yeah um and then you okay to cross the bed now i know now i know the next thing i i was sucking your cock but i was on all fours yeah my butt in the air yes he came underneath me and started licking my pussy yes and i was a little bit uncomfortable with that yes you were and i. And I was a little bit like, oh, my God, what's going on? No, no, hang on. He didn't come up. This is not him coming underneath you. Oh, he kind of faced forward, isn't he?

Yeah. So, he wasn't lying on his back. That's what made it awkward for you. That's what made it awkward. So, I was like, okay, I can't keep sucking your dick anymore. I want to roll over on my back. No. Yep. No. Yep. No. Okay. No. So then you maneuvered yourself so that he could get underneath you and be face up into your vagina. Okay. Then he went face up. And then you were sucking my cock whilst he was licking your pussy face up. So when do I stop blowing you and rolling my back? Because that happened. Next. Okay. Yeah, after this. Right. And you had your first orgasm on his face. I did.

It was great. I mean, I had a fantastic time.

it was probably the first orgasm with another person i've had in many months yeah after i'd i suppose not i'm not given permission but you were you were on you were trying to still trying to suck my dick whilst you were getting close to orgasm and i'm like you can just sit up and ride his face you know which is exactly what you did thanks for that permission honey yeah well i mean look you gotta hand it out when you can yeah you seem to enjoy it i was enjoying it very much so yeah very much so he was pretty good yeah pretty good he got you off in like a minute pretty good well what's exceptional what's exceptional like i don't know like where i don't know how to explain that let me come back to you Thank you.

Okay. You'll never come back to me on that. Yeah, I will. You can't get any shorter than that. No, it's not about shortness. It's about the strength and the type of orgasm. Okay. Yeah, well, see, this is... This is why women are so very different to men. We have kinds of orgasm yeah we have a couple that's about it best case so after that though i think was when you suggested that i should get on top of him actually no what happened is we rolled you over okay because you came you rolled off him and then he invited me to fuck you. Oh, that's right. I remember this now.

So it was very awkward funny. What was awkward? That you were like, please, sir, you go first. No. I couldn't possibly. You go first. That's right. Like you were lining up or opening a car door or having a meal at the buffet. I believe your comment was, we don't need tickets for this, boys. Yeah. It was a bit weird. It wasn't weird. It was cool. Kind of funny. He made a nice offer. He was being a gentleman is what was happening. All right. He wanted to see me fuck my wife. Do you think because he's trying to figure out how to do it? I don't think so. He seemed to know what he was doing.

Not like that. I mean, like how we have sex. Anyway, I handed him a condom. Okay. I know what you mean. But I don't think it was the case. No, I think he was just being polite. He didn't want to take the reins, steal the keys. Okay. Yeah, that's what I think. So this is where you tell me to have my signature move, right? Well, yes, but first what happened? I gave him a condom. Yep. He agreed. Then I got into position.

Now, at this point in time, we forgot to actually pack our lube when we went overseas, which is a bit of a swinger foul we didn't forget we did yeah we did we ran out oh okay yeah and then you bought some but it was a brand that we hadn't previously played with so just a just a quick interlude this is awesome um if you probably don't use a new product in the first place session with a different partner because you don't know how it's going to react with you or even you're not used to using it. I mean, this is a standard lube, everyone. This was KY. It wasn't anything out of the ordinary.

No, this is a liquid or whatever it's called. This is KY, was it? Okay. Because we bought two during this trip. So I'm about to hop on top. Dee goes in with the assist and passes me the lube. You put it on your hand. But I put way too much, way, way too much. It was like I was shampooing my hair. I don't know what the hell happened there. And I put it on and I thought, and actually I said it out loud, what the hell am I going to do with all this excess lube? So Dee comes in, we actually kind of almost shake hands and slide our hands off each other.

He takes the excess lube and I would say catch cry of the night was your comment. Yeah. Which was? Which was swinging is a team sport. Yeah, which he thought was absolutely hilarious. It was hilarious. It was pretty hilarious at the moment. Everybody out there in podcast world right now is pissing themselves laughing. Okay, just to put a visual in your head, there's a guy on his back with a hard cock and a condom on. There's a girl straddled over the top of him, putting on lube but having too much.

The other male partner comes in with the hand movement, swipes the excess lube off and then says swinging is a team sport honey let's just understand why i came in with the assist because there's that much lube in c's hand that had she wiped it on the top of the bed it would have been like a puddle of lube we would have been swimming in a puddle of lube for the remainder of the evening well that and the housekeeping staff probably would have been super angry. They would have been kind of pissed, yeah. Yeah, like super angry. Yeah.

And they would have known, and they would have been like dirty perverts. So? So I did my signature move. But let's just go back a step. There was a hard penis. Oh, yeah, right. Why did we not set off fireworks? Well, you nearly did. I nearly did. By the end of the night. I was like, good job. Yeah. Good job, you. You actually nearly high-fived him. Yeah, I should have actually high-fived him. Yeah, you wanted to, but he found it awkward. So, yes, he... Laid on his back. Laid on his back, hard cock, and very decent-sized cock, actually, is in fact. It was a big cock. It was a big cock, babe.

You can say that. Yeah. It was like 10 inches long. Really? Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Yeah. We should text him and get him to measure it. No, we can't do that. Can we not? Maybe we can get him to send us a photo we can use it for the podcast i'm allowed to touch the man on his cock what i can't ask him what how how big it is yeah you can go and throw it out actually does he have a profile online we can like ask it as many awkward questions as you like okay i probably won't do that no and it was And it was also decently girthy as well. Yeah. Which I'm going to throw it out there.

I'm going to ask you a question. Biggest cock you've ever had? I think so. I think so too. Certainly the biggest I've ever seen. You know what? This may have been why I accidentally had an excess amount of lube because I was thinking it's been a while. Back a truck up to my vagina to get this thing in. It's been a while. I may need to really get there and... Meep, sploosh. To be fair, though, the position... This position does require a certain amount of lubrication. I mean, you were pretty wet as well. I think you just totally over lubed.

It was like a lubricant fight in there it's just too much it was it was everywhere yeah it really was i might add she's sort of glossed over the fact you had to wipe your hand off on my hand twice yeah not once twice i think i did say where's your other hand there wasn't that much splooge on your hand we had to get it off it was hilarious oh god anyway last time i think i'll probably make that mistake I'll see you next week. That much splooge on your hand, we had to get it off. It was hilarious. Oh, God. Anyway, last time I think I'll probably make that mistake. Funny. Yeah.

Hilariously funny because, again, he did mention to us that he enjoys the dynamic of a couple, and that's one of the things. He said he just feels when you're with a couple and they've got a great dynamic, it's actually really intimate and quite fun.

And so I think that, and he has said to us after that, you we had he had a lot of fun with us and the ability to kind of laugh mid-sex when you're about to climb on top of someone's hard cock is great yeah absolutely well sex is supposed to be fun yeah so you then so my signature move do we want to explain what it is i think so we do yeah let's go your signature well i the funny thing is it's you know my signature move but i'm sure there's a lot of women out there who do this yeah so it's it's cow it's cowgirl but up on your feet yeah and really using your ability to be able to have strong thighs and just squatting over the top of the guy riding up and down.

Yeah. So the only things in contact between you and the guy is vagina on penis. Yeah. Pretty much. Just fair warning. Don't do this after leg day because you actually do almost collapse and it burns. You've really got to have a lot of stamina because you need to stay up there for a while.

So I'm just forewarningarning if you haven't done it before or you randomly start to do a higher squat and weight rep just maybe don't do this after and i uh i was actually just sitting down the bottom enjoying the view yeah you love this position why because of the view there's a few reasons so the views the view is spectacular because it's so not intimately intimate or something i think is you know like you're fucking him but there's only very small points of contact additionally it's you know there's no nothing blocking the view you can see exactly what's going on from my perspective from the man's perspective yeah additionally from the man's perspective whether you're the man looking down on your own cock or the me looking up, it's just a spectacular position.

Now, the other thing that I liked about it or I like about it is that on the withdrawal, there's a certain amount of pulling power on your your vagina which pulls it out along with the penis, which I didn't realise up until that night, actually, how much I enjoy watching to see you. And also you were kind of straining. On yourself? Like when we play as well as other people? I mean, do you find it more interesting and perverse when I'm with somebody else? The angle's different, right?

I think if you if you were to reverse cowgirl it would be just as interesting because at the back looking from the back there's no um folds to block the the view if you know what i mean it's just a straight pull out and it's straight skin and it's really cool i really like that so you were watching like a naked pervert Yeah Yup That's what was happening Yeah Trying not to You know Trying not to rub one out In the corner Were you touching yourself? No Were you?

Maybe a little Just the occasional touch Oh that is funny So I just gotta make sure He's awake It's a nice looking cock too It is I just wanna throw that out there Yeah you gotta good looking cock nice and hard if i didn't already mention that additionally the rest of his body looked quite nice as well probably should throw that out there the man was probably at this point unless i found him in intelligent as well as sexy physically stimulating absolutely yeah i just needed to throw that out because you know sometimes people read into things and think that wow it's just all about the cock it's not all about the cock stop reading into things jerks yeah jerk faces so then what happened um so then I I came you came riding him yeah yeah and I then got up and got off yeah you rolled over I rolled over yep.

And then we had sex. We did. And there was more, so you were fucking me. Yeah, I was taking your missionary. But with pillows underneath me, so you kind of leveled up, which was funny, again, because we actually invited him to go in with the assist this time, and you were like, hey, do you want a couple of pillows underneath your pelvis? And you were like, hey, The Rock, can you just pass me those pillows and put them underneath C? So he came in with the assist then too. So it was a team sport. Really, it was.

And then whilst I was fucking you, he was spending all his time uptown, kissing you and playing with your turds. I don't think, did you, he didn't maneuver no he was actually just being really quite um intimate with you he was you touching your neck um but also at this point um i asked him to get the vibrator out of the drawer yes and then i had the vibrator and then i was using that on me while you were fucking me and then i think at one point then i was also sucking him, sucking his cock while that was all going on.

But he was actually, I remember this distinctly, the vibrator by the end of it was sort of pushed off to the side. Because he started rubbing me. He started rubbing your clit. Yeah. And you came again. Oh, I did come again, yeah. So, hey, pretty good night so far. I'm just going to throw that out there. That's three. And I came as well. Yes. Actually, before we get on to that, though, something I missed before, when I was having sex with him, actually, we were also doing it missionary. We forgot that. Skipped straight over it.

Because there was one point there where after I was on top, he was on top of me and i was looking at you and then looking at him and i said have sex like fuck me why are you nodding because this happened after i finished fucking you you sure yeah okay this funny though you went you for the first time didn't wear a condom you're skipping skipping right to the end now. Wait a second. So we had sex twice and then I had sex with him twice. So we had sex. Okay. Maybe I am getting wrong. Yeah. Take it away, Dee, because clearly I'm a mishmash.

So after I finished fucking you and came in a condom, I then pulled out of you and you laid there for a while and you then got up and went to the bathroom and cleaned up we were chatting he you came back and then he was um he was touching you again i we were chatting for a while and then he started touching you again he started playing with your vagina that's right then he started having sex with me and then he said to me to suck your dick. Yes. So that's how that sequence of events turned out. I told you I was right. Yeah, I told you. Totally. Totally right.

So he then, he was fucking you and he asked you to suck my dick. Yeah. And then he really likes that. That's like his favorite thing, I think, to watch, to be fucking somebody whilst they're... I think just it goes back to that intimacy and involvement of everybody as well. Yeah, absolutely. You know. But it was very hot. And you were... You before... Well, you sucked my dick for a while and then I stopped because I was enjoying watching. And you actually looked me in the eye and you said, yes, The Rock, fuck me. And I liked that.

When you looked at me and were talking dirty to him, that was cool. Thanks. Yeah, you should do more of that. Don't do that every time. If do it every time it just becomes normal nah gotta be surprised it's coming out nowhere no way coming out of nowhere look at me i'm coming from nowhere so yeah so that happened and then um you came again yeah so i don't know whether we're keeping track at this point i I don't think we are. No, but there's a lot. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then we went back to having sex together. Correct. And then, again, I was giving him head while we were having sex.

This is where I would like to go back. So, this was the first time where you have not won a condom while we're having sex with other people. And there's a reason behind why we wear a condom. A couple of reasons. Yeah, but, I mean, yes, there are, but primary is that you're allergic to me. Yeah. Which I explained to him when you went to the bathroom after I finished to clean up. Oh, okay, okay, that's handy information to share. Yeah, because he was like, he, actually, before we get to there, ooh, explain what happened. You know what I'm talking about. That he was touching me down there.

Down there? He was touching my pussy after you'd had sex with me. Yeah. This is a sex ed. Yeah. To us, we're like, so down there. And the birds and the bees. Oh, my God. So? Yeah, so he started touching my pussy just after you'd come in me. Yeah. And he was like, ooh, that's sexy. Yeah. That's the first time that's ever happened. I was like, whoa. Well, it has to be because it's the first time. Yeah. But I was like, whoa. Yeah. Did that kind of freak you out? A little bit. What was your thing then? I just, well, because it's never happened. It was just something new.

So whenever you have a new experience, there's always that like, hey, whoa, what do I think about this? Yeah. And you start digesting it. So now what do you think about it now that you've digested it? I'm still, I'm still, I don't know. I'm still a bit like unsure. But I think that I can see how that would turn people on. I can see how noticing and having, I guess, almost evidentiary support of somebody being pleasured is a sexy and erotic, very erotic thing. So, I can see how that kind of would turn people on. Yeah. I liked him doing that. That was quite cool. There you go.

I thought it was interesting. There you are. Yeah. But I got up and obviously attended to myself in the bathroom and came back. But the finish off. I have to ask a question. What? So. Yes. Tell us your question. The squiggly walk to the bathroom. It's more of a question in the podcast land. Okay. How do you do the squ walk to the bathroom when you're full of cum? Is there a way to do it that makes the lady doing it feel sexy? Dead silence because you're putting it out to the podcast. No, I'm asking you as well. I don't know. Well, if I knew that, I would be doing it in that method.

Do you ever feel sexy? No. I'm just like, well, this is awkward for everyone involved. Can everyone just stop looking at me? Actually, you know what else? What? He got up at one point and dimmed the lights. He didn't turn them off. He dimmed them. Yeah. And that, we were talking about this after and. We're not at that point yet. Are we not? No. I thought he only turned them off after we had the first sexual experience. No? No. Oh, sorry, guys. See, at this point, you can obviously see everybody that she has... Orgasm brain. Orgasm brain. That's all I can say. She can't put the dots in line.

I'm just like, I had a great time. La.

When would somebody typically be feeling they're most vulnerable after sex after after sex when you're sitting there talking and you know you've got your least favorite bits exposed you know you're naked so that's when he he got up just before that he got up before you went to the bathroom to turn down the lights but i believe it was in anticipation of the fact that you know when you arrive back he wanted you to feel comfortable okay so I did feel comfortable and I came back and we actually again in true comfortable swinger fun sexy naughty night it's great to finish it off with just relaxed conversation and laughter and enjoying each other's company.

Yeah, absolutely. And finding out what people liked and didn't and all that sort of thing as well was awesome. Yeah. Yeah.

But during this, actually, he was probably, out of all of the previous partners we've had, I think that he was the most attentive and i don't know help me out here with the well he was still he was still touching still touching you after sex he was still giving you the occasional kiss on the cheek and the neck and rubbing you know putting his hands through my through my hair and touching your breasts and doing all that sort of thing which is something you were concerned that i'd have an issue with because you were concerned that it might be too intimate i didn't have a problem with it i mean he was he was a gentleman from start to finish yeah and then i i so i think at that point we were almost almost spooning which is why i was thinking oh he was cuddling me maybe this is is this too intimate but i did roll on my stomach at that point i know that you were both commenting about my ass for about five minutes and that was getting very awkward for me.

Yeah, well, you have a great ass. So you were both like patting me on the ass and commenting about my ass. Touching, groping. It was weird. He may have slipped his fingers a little earlier, a little further around the front as well, you know, just to remind you that you had a vagina a vagina really test there so what was your comments after coming out of the bathroom second time after the fourth round you're asking me this uh-huh me the person who has gotten every move do you remember what your comment was no hey boys was it i think you broke me. Remember? Yeah, I do, yeah. Yeah.

Which was totally true, by the way, actually. For the next two days, you walk like a cowgirl, yes. Yeah. But satisfying night. Great night. You did not walk out of that room unsatisfied. Look, I think from start to finish, we said he was a a great communicator we said that he turned up he was you know intelligent interesting fun all those things and then you roll and wrap that up into a really fun and exciting and naughty and perverse and all of those amazing things and you put that in the well. I mean, that's just a nice little Christmas present right there. Yes, absolutely, I agree.

It was a really good night, and I hope we manage to achieve that again. However, he does travel to… He travels around Asia-Pacific. Yeah, he does travel around Asia-Pacific, so we're hoping we'll catch up with him again soon. However, he also travels to the Philippines quite regularly, as do you, and we're hoping that, well, I'm certainly hoping that at some point you might agree to play with him without me as well. We'll see how that conversation progresses. Yeah, of course. What was, so, I mean, we've shared our amazing night, and there's no doubt about it. I mean, it was sexy. It was hot.

Yes, I was a little bit damaged post-evening. Happily damaged. Post-evening. And we did our usual, we always follow up with a message after. It's just polite. So we always do the thanks very much, great night, you know, catch up.

Maybe the next day, too, we'll write something like, you know, hope the rest of your work, because it was was a work day hope your work day goes well that sort of thing what was your standout for the evening what was your favorite or top few favorite things my favorite would there were a few things the first one was um you being excited enough that when you walked out in lingerie it took you all of 20 seconds to say let's take this to the bedroom that was cool yeah i liked that because it showed that you were actually um really XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX than that but you seem to be engaged with this guy in all ways yeah i really i really We did find him interesting.

Yeah. And then the other one would be when you looked me in the eyes and asked him to fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you hard, I think was the word. That was... It's probably one of my mistakes right there, really, isn't it? To lead up to the, I feel sore now. 20 minutes earlier, fuck me hard. Yeah. I have some commentary on what he liked. Do you want me to share? Did you actually ask him? I did ask him. So he has two favorites. Yeah. So he said, for me, the hottest was when I was inside you and you were blowing D or vice versa. I'm getting hard right now just thinking about it. Awesome.

I also really enjoyed when you were riding on top of me, wink face. Well, I mean, he's definitely male. Yeah. I liked the sex. No. You know the part where we had sex, I liked that. Is that your best male voice? That's my male voice, yeah. Wow. I liked sex. Awesome. You do like sex. Give me your female voice then. I like sex. See? Equally funny. No, mine's awesome. Okay. Hi. Hi. I'm Dee. I like sex. So that was it for our evening. We then, he, after chatting for a while and him touching on you. We called it a night just up to midnight. Well, he called it, actually. Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he called it. He said, look, I think we've had a good. He said, I'll leave you. I think he said, I'll leave you to enjoy the rest of your evening. I'll leave you guys to enjoy the rest of your evening. Yeah. To which you then proceeded to fall asleep within... Seconds. Three minutes. Yeah. We did walk him out, as we do. To the door. Yep. Yeah. And then there was sleeping. Yeah. Then you fell straight asleep. I firmly believe that C is very much a man in her orgasm style. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Hey, don't be a hater. No, I'm not hating. I'm just saying that's what it is. You're like one orgasm.

Drooling on somebody's penis whilst they're... I'm drooling on their penis. We've spoken about spittle usage in play. We have. We have. We don't like it. No, spittle... Anyway. Well, yeah. You don't like it. Yeah. together finally actually i think for the next two days we were just randomly saying to each other yeah hey hey it was good it was a very good night with a very good man it was and i do hope that we get to relive it actually and yeah i too, actually. And yeah, I think that finding those single men in the lifestyle can be tricky.

But once you have one that you can perhaps continue to have play with, I think that that's really the ultimate goal. Yeah. Oh, without a doubt. Yeah. I mean, it's just so bloody painful finding them. It's just exhausting. Yes. For you. For me, it is horribly exhausting. Yeah. Yeah.

And you just go through so many of them that are just rubbish yes which i think actually just a side note um we have another podcast coming up soon and it's actually all about single men in the lifestyle yeah i've decided to on the back of meeting the rock and also my own understanding along the way of single guys i'm going to do the 12 days slash 12 ways of getting into these pants so look out for that it's a bit of a bit of a chrissy bonus bit of a chrissy bonus little bonus episode yeah christmas yeah um before we finish up the only other thing that i wanted to talk about was our upcoming desire trip just real quick so we've just announced the dates for everyone out there who follows follows us on twitter and our website so you can jump on there at www.swingingdownunder.com we have a section for desire and we'd love you to join us in november 2017 yeah should be a cool event we've um it already looks like we've got quite a few people that are coming along with us.

Yeah. So it's pretty exciting. Absolutely. And we're heading there with, of course, the Jones. Well, this is the most exciting people coming in. Yeah. Should I say that? No, you can't say that. It's equally exciting. So we have Mr. and Mrs. Jones from We Got A Thing podcast and also TNA from The Curious Couple podcast. Yes. Hopefully I can be less awkward this time. So we're all heading over to November next year to Desire. So let us know if you want to come. And, of course, we're on Twitter at Swing Down Under. Yeah. And that is it. That was a spectacular evening.

And let's hope we strike platinum again soon. I feel like we should have, I'm crossing my fingers for The Rock episodes 2, 3, 4 and 5 and 6 and 7. Yeah. Perhaps we could interview him. Maybe. Ooh. We'll see. Boggles. So thanks for listening. We hope you enjoyed that, found it insightful and if nothing else, funny. Yeah. So this is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.