Some swingers say that the holy grail of swinging is a 4-way connection... what about putting together a 6-Some play session. We talk about how to navigate that, how we transitioned from talking to swinging play and run you through some of our pre thoughts.
How do you get ready for a swinging date or play session? Do you have reservations about the way you look or your ability to flirt and get people engaging with you? We share our thoughts before heading on this date.
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We finish the episode by sharing something really insensitive that C said during play that we have previously warned you against... don't do what C did. We work through the issue and discuss it live on air with an apology by C.
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You're listening to Swinging Down Under, a podcast about the swinging, non-monogamous lifestyle from two crazy Australians with over four years of lifestyle antics to keep you entertained, informed, angry, happy and horny. Join our international swinging adventures. G'day guys and welcome back. What we're going to talk about is a six-time that we recently had in Singapore and... Welcome back. Where are we coming from? Oh, we've actually been holidaying around the Caribbean. We've been attending a lot of parties. We definitely were on a yacht at some point in time naked.
What else can I add to this fanciful non-existent holiday that we've been on? How many COVID injections you've had to try and fix all those problems? Oh, none many, because I'm immune. Oh, so funny. So no, we're going to talk about a 6M, but before we get started, have we had a 6M? I can't remember now. It's been so long since we've done anything in actual in the country that we live. Have we had a 6M in Singapore? Yeah. No, this is the first one. Yeah, I think it is too, right? No, I don't think it is. It definitely is. Yeah, so that was pretty funny.
So we're going to talk about the Sixam that we had. We're going to run through some of the leading up to the event. We're going to talk about the actual play. And then we're going to finish off with something that I said to Daryl during play that was, quite frankly, inappropriate.
And so we're going to run through a total dick move yeah we're gonna run through that with you guys that you know it doesn't always work out rainbows and lollipops and sometimes you fuck up so yeah we're gonna talk about that and i just want to kick this off with the fact that i posted up on twitter how do you get ready for an event when maybe you're not feeling your greatest and that can be anything that could be could be you're tired, so you're a bit fatigued. It could be that you've been stressed with work. Your kids have been irritating. I mean, it could be...
Or you're just feeling like a fat cunt. Or you're just feeling like a fat cunt. And I had some really fantastic responses, you know, about ways that people kind of pump themselves up for these events. Well, if you're feeling a fat cunt, you're trying to, you know, slim yourself down. So that's not going to work, is it? No, it's more around the mental side of it. Of course, I'm joking. It was a funny. How do you pump yourself up for heading out to an event? Some of the responses were like, put on some sexy music, wear something lovely.
But one of the responses, which I thought was really good, was kind of about the pre-work.
And it was like, well, kind of anticipate we're going to feel that way and so we do something before the event which is exactly what i went and did so i actually did a spray tan because i'm like that'll help sorry who who now did who did a spray tan you put the spray tan on me so thanks thanks babe for getting involved because it is a team sport and these sorts of things where i went and got my toenails painted and did did that to try and help me feel a little bit better but i tell you what one of them just a little bit pretty a little bit what does i feel pretty not really please don't that's uh that's high pitch that's you don't have the you don't have the vocal range i feel covered i feel fat rolls are rolling around yes and i've eaten so too much cheese so much wine please let's get on because this is it's like death my ears.
So, yeah, that's what I did. I tried to make myself feel a little bit better. Got your toes done as well. Got my toes done. Here was one of my concerns, though. Or your feet, I should say. Yeah, mate. Got the plates of meats done. My plates of meat. I was concerned I was going to be the biggest person at the party. And let me clarify, I don't mean the fattest person at the party. I mean the biggest person at the party.
Here in Singapore, we have mentioned on a number of occasions that i am taller my boobs are bigger my butt is bigger and most of the women here are very small framed and as a result of that generally speaking i go into a party feeling a little bit like godzilla yeah but like without the grower and the little short front arms yeah although your arms are you know disproportionately shorter than your legs but that's just you know that's a whole different conversation but that was a serious concern of mine and i don't know confidence wise daryl did you notice any shift in like my mental state going in or anything like that like did you know did you actively notice that absolutely i think tell me about it i think there were a few points throughout the night one we'll get to after else, where it was obvious that your mental state was not where it should be.
I did raise an eyebrow when you took your panties off, or not your panties, when you took your shirt off, and someone said something about the colour of your jogs. I raised an eyebrow about that because I was like, dude, I like Daryl's jogs. You actually don't like those ones. They're not the ones that you like. Are they not?
No, you've told me before that hate those and i should not wear them oh okay and the floral ones the rest of the party agreed then so no okay they didn't agree they just pulled the piss out of me because i was wearing floral underwear you know what fuck them fuck everyone i felt good in them i don't really give a shit what anyone else thinks that's where i'm at and you know the interesting thing about this party is and actually i just want to give a shout out to singapore who has again had now 14 covid free days congratulations singapore it's fantastic the people that we were going to see one of the couples we'd seen before and one of the couples we hadn't and the other couple we didn't really didn't know anything about really hadn't spoken to them it was just a hey you guys seem cool and i know these guys and you guys know these guys so let's like get these guys together yeah let's let's smudge them smudge some uh some bits together some bits together did you have any reservations going in and meeting a new couple like this is a question we actually got online was of course okay so what's your reservations like i mean uh the first the first reservations are around safety of course given the covid scenario throughout the world and, of course, how other people might feel about that and whether I'm putting them in danger as well.
And, look, I have to say, well, right now it's an infinite chance of being infected here in Singapore because it's an infinite probability, I should say, that it's entirely, one might say, impossible or very close to impossible, very highly improbable that you would catch up COVID here. That's certainly one of the things that comes to mind for me. And even prior to the fact that we've gone 14 days without any infections whatsoever in Singapore, prior to that, I would say there has been a less than one in six million chance of actually running into somebody who has COVID here as well.
So, you know, as much as I was concerned about what the potential for that was, it realistically was very low in terms of the chance of that happening. So that's one thing I took into mind very quickly. And I think we both did.
You know, that was that was a concern for both of us actually it's been a concern for both of us since we started since we started meeting up with anyone yeah in in singapore what i will say is when the the actual host couple put this forward as a suggestion and we booked this i think three weeks out one of the things that they said very quickly was that this this other couple was very a to us, which is basically, we don't do shit. We're all basically isolating anyway. That's the reality of where we sit right now, which is very different to the rest of the world.
So if you're going to judge, judge away. I have no issue with that. We've been very obvious and protected in terms of how we've acted throughout the whole COVID pandemic, and that won't change. We We are moving soon and we are moving to a country that the COVID exposure is much higher and that will, again, unfortunately, restrict our play to a much higher level than what we've had here or what potential we've had here in Singapore. So in terms of actually meeting a new couple, though, what other reservations do you have about them?
I don't want to put words in your mouth, so I'm not even going to make some examples but what else did you what else went through your mind well i mean given that i'm not happy with where i sit right now in terms of my my weight i was concerned that again i might be the fattest one in the room and that's got nothing to do whether they're fat or not or whether they're you know physically what i define as that it's got nothing to do with that at all what it's got to do with is me and and how i feel about myself so that that was that's certainly a significant aspect of my consideration additionally additionally just just interacting with other people again you know we've been out of this for now the better part of a year in fact in terms of our interaction with people and you know like every skill it's a practice skill in terms of you know where you're from all that sort of thing right you know sounding interesting keeping conversation flowing it's all practiced so if i don't have the ability to you know offer offer a good conversation then then that's also a problem the other other thing is we're looking to leave soon, you know, literally.
So with that in mind, what is the, you know, what is the reaction to somebody when you tell them that now?
Yeah, I honestly would have, I think it would have been the same reaction that we had to people four years ago when we'd go on a date, and then they'd be like, oh yeah, we're leaving in sort of situation right yeah so i don't know it is but coincidentally everyone was leaving in less than three months yeah so that was pretty funny all six people at the table were all like yep we're leaving next month we're leaving the month after and we're leaving like two months later so there you go one thing i did want to say that really ties in nicely to your last point though which was about being out of practice with meeting new people and that i'm actually just saying meeting new people i'm not even saying meeting swingers because like we haven't spoken or met anybody new in like a year so i think not only are we out of practice in terms of like being around other lifestylers we're completely out of practice and actually just having conversation with new people i think anyway yes well one of the things surrounding that was my my concern in the first i'm gonna say hour that they just were either very very shy or didn't like us i think i mean let's be fair here they didn't like you because everybody loves me maybe i felt like i don't know i was getting a really strange vibe i was having trouble getting them to engage back and i i think it was maybe shyness on their part because it was just a bit strange there for about an hour it's almost like you should take into account the fact that um other everybody else has gone through exactly the same time you know away away from people that you have yeah i would say though after a little bit of time and a couple of drinks like they really they started changing their body language they started engaging more opening up a little bit more did you find that as well yeah I think that was just again you know new people new people meeting I think the expectation sits when you're when you're meeting with people who you know and people who you don't there's always that concern I suppose there's a click there that you're going to have to bust through as well so I understand why the I understand exactly why it was like that and I we so you were getting that vibe too it wasn't just me?
I don't think I was getting it to perhaps the level that you – it wouldn't have been something that I would have isolated as something obvious. Okay. Another thing that I did think of was like, oh, my God, are we being those really loud, obnoxious Australians? That's what was going through my head. Well, that's how – I mean, that is where we sit, you know. Yeah. We're number two in the world scale. Like, the world scale in terms of most obnoxious country. What I will say is that the manoeuvre to play in this particular instance was much better than last time.
So we spoke about this couple last time and we said, like, all of a sudden it was a really, really strange transition. And a lot of people ask us this question, like, how do you guys transition from talking in getting getting to know each other having a couple of drinks to play and we've spoken about the last time where it was just really strange and and it felt a bit jarring this time the transition to play worked really well what am i talking about do you remember yeah absolutely so it was uh we were i don't know playing a game is the best way to put it i'd say i'd game.
I don't even remember what it was that we had to discuss. Do you remember? Nothing. Was it pick a song and get Andrea? No, that's what it was. No, it was pick a song that you'd strip to or be sexy to. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then every time you did that, you had to take off an article of clothing, basically, which is, you know, puts Kate in a fairly lackluster position, given that she was wearing a one piece, one piece. I was wearing a jumpsuit with nothing underneath it, so one piece of clothing, which is pretty common.
Thankfully, we gave you some compromise and said you could just, you know, undo the halter top and bring it down for the first manoeuvre. So you got two, you got two goes. So we're going to start talking about the transition and then we're going to talk about the play. So this transition, I've got to tell you, worked so much better. Thank you.
the top and bring it down for the first maneuver so you got two you got two guys so we're going to start talking about the transition and then we're going to talk about the play so this transition i'm going to tell you worked so much better than last time i think that it just put everybody at a little bit of a frisky fun kind of mindset definitely so the idea behind this game was that you know we had spotify running in the background which by the way actually just a note on that if you're going to do this please pay for premium spotify what is it like ten dollars a month, we had Spotify running in the background, which, by the way, actually, just a note on that, if you're going to do this, please pay for premium Spotify.
What is it, like $10 a month? We had a lot of fun at the expense of the person who... The host. Yeah, the host. He's a lovely guy, I might add. It was just, it was a lot of fun. We had a bit, every time he changed the songs... An ad came on....you'd get the ad, so it was a bit of fun to just make his life a little miserable.
Although, I think I might have gotten a little carried away with my piss takes given how well we know them like we know them well ish but not perhaps to the level i was taking the piss yeah so i actually felt a little bad about that afterward and i almost sent him a message afterward just saying look dude i know i got a bit carried away i'm hoping that it's all okay and and you know sorry if it went it went too far. I don't know that it did, but I just felt a little out about it afterward. Yeah.
So the game essentially, so there were six of us sitting around in a circle and no one was next to their partner and it was just, which also, by the way, that worked really well. So instantly, I don't know whether you noticed, but instantly as soon as we walked into the area, I sat next to somebody else because I was like, I'm going to get ahead of the curb here and I'm not going to allow people to be like, oh, you can sit there and you can sit there next to you, as much as I love you, darling. But I was trying to like... Yeah, no, I totally agree. I think it was a... I'm glad...
Because I was the first person through the door too and I was like, hi. Yeah, because regularly you don't do that and I actually really...
You have to be the one to do it i really prefer that you do um not not that i have to do it no normally in a four-person situation you'll sit down beside you'll sit down on the other side of the chair which means or or you put or i arrive after three people have sat down and you've already effectively put us in the position where i have to sit beside you and i don't have a problem sitting beside you but it really does make that transition harder if you don't have the chance to physically engage with people as well yeah so the game going around the circle was to yeah pick pick a sexy song that you might might be your like stripper song coming out song and and then take an article of of clothing off it was a great idea and it's something that i may steal and try and use in future 100 yeah i thought it was a great idea great idea so there were six of us just going around.
It was a spontaneous idea as well I don't think there was actually anything behind that. I think it was a spontaneous idea too so mad props for that. Absolutely. And then it got a little bit hot and heavy outside I'm going to say and again I would like to remind everybody that actually being nude in your own home inside your four walls is actually illegal.
So you can imagine six people being nude on a balcony it's not a balcony or a veranda outdoor area yeah it's a unprotected unprotected outdoor area other than the well it's got a roof but no nothing around it yeah so i think at one point we were like yeah like we need to go into the bedroom at this point right because otherwise hey ho yeah thankfully we're the thankfully the property that we're in has uh has bounding fences that are that are quite large and quite overgrown oh yeah but there is one uh one area that or one neighbor that over overlooks but you know we were keeping a watch here there's nobody there but anyway it's not worth the risk yeah 100 so so then we make our way upstairs and into their bedroom, which I think everybody was pretty eager to get up there, I've got to say.
By the time this game had been finished playing and then people were fooling around downstairs, I think it was time to move upstairs, absolutely, and everybody was pretty excited about that.
Now, when we got up there, the first thing that I did was get out our stuff out of our swinger bag because i noticed that nobody else has a swinger bag in this scenario too so i'm actually going to bring that up to the couple this weekend nobody else had a swinger bag did you notice that yeah i think that's probably because uh they weren't anticipating things to go as quickly as or as far as i as they did given it's a essentially first date yeah we did play on the first date and yes i did take a swinger bag because i was trying to be prepared in case of situations such as these you took it so you could take the wine and gin that's the main reason you took it oh yeah our swinger's bag is actually an alcohol transportation device that also has additional pockets for swinger related items so that's actually the primary purpose of it but i just call it a swingers bag so i started taking everything out and getting ready and the last time we actually play with these people i went and got changed into lingerie and this time i specifically didn't take lingerie because i was like that's going to be pointless because by the time that i get into it i have to go get into it and then come back out everybody's already doing stuff which is exactly what happened last time so this time smart.
I was like, fuck it. I'm not even going to waste time with the lingerie. I'm already naked from being outside naked. So let's do it. So I got stuff out of the swingers bag. You started to play with the new couple straight away, right? Yeah. So let's just keep in mind everybody at this point is sans clothes. Well, the game worked well. The game worked well, so it was a pretty natural progression. Actually, it wasn't that I – I mean, there was no real choice. It just happened to be that they were the couple I was closest to. Is that how it happened?
Because I was wondering how the pair off – Actually, hang on. I was getting stuff out of the bag. I think you're actually a little confused because the two – there was a two-couple change there. While you were getting stuff out of the bag, it was opposite partner. So the male from one partner – the male from one couple was with the female or the other, and I just joined the one I was closest to while you were getting things out of the bag. So what was happening over there? What was going on in your mind?
And run me through your review of the evening, and then I'm going to run you through my review. Not review. Run me through your – Jesus. Run me through what happened with you and then I'm going to run through. Maybe we should yelp it. I mean, where are we at here? And then I also want to know how many times you looked across of what was happening because basically we subdivided straight away. And so I want to know, like, when all this will happen, like what was your – what happened? We did. That's because you chose to join the other non-couple couple that was closest to you at the time.
Anyway, so, I mean, we were standing up for a while playing the two guys, one girl scenario, and then... Am I allowed to, like, constantly interject? Well, then, yeah, but why would you have your review after this? No, I was just going to ask you a question.
Okay, go okay do you find it awkward when you're just standing up standing up playing because i know years and years ago not to start okay carry on so i was playing with with those guys for a while and then we proceed i mean it was a standard sort of the only things you can do while standing up you know finger play and things like that and mutual manual stimulation. Moving from there, we got on to, well, we moved on to the bed and, in fact, that group's kind of split up at that point and everyone sort of got on to the bed, I think, at that point.
So I suppose rather than going back through the whole thing again, perhaps you can give your initial start-up phase in terms of what happened on your side. Well, okay, there was a few times throughout the night, by the way, they have a sizable bed, right? It's a fucking huge bed. There was a few times throughout the night where I was like, I feel like you guys are all taking up way too much space and I can't get on the bed.
There was a moment there where I was like, I think he said to me at one point, come over and sit on my face, which I'll get to in a second, and I was like, dude, how am I going to get on this bed and then how am am I gonna enter over the top without literally standing on someone's head or something I was really worried about that you're pretty incapable of not standing on somebody's head no I was worried about injuring somebody because there was bodies everybody I love you but you're a klutz it's your it's your go-to move to fall over and hurt yourself or someone else so after I unpacked the swingers bag and got out so I took a small vibrator, I took a bigger vibrator, and I just want to point out too that Daryl was actually wearing his cock ring.
So before we left and we were getting ready to leave our house, I asked Daryl to put his cock ring on, and so he was wearing that. I don't know that I was asked. Oh, yeah, that's true. Or that it was slid across the table and said, put this on. I just handed it to you and I was like, put this on. Yeah, that's not really asking. No, not really. But that's okay. It's something that generally makes me feel sexy anyway. Yeah. And I was needing that for that particular night. Well, okay, so before I get into my theme, like, did you feel sexy?
And especially towards the end of the, obviously, when we're playing the game and everybody had to strip down. Not really. You didn't feel sexy with the cock ring? No, not at all. Okay.
And then as you took your clothes off, everybody was asking you about the cock ring and to explain the cock ring and show you the cock ring so it became a bit of a show-and-tell situation as well so absolutely i liked that so yeah so i unpacked i had a small vibrator a big vibrator i had a common doms and everything like that i unpacked it all i didn't take it off nor put it on in front of anyone because that is not something that anybody needs to see no that is not things that people need to see and yeah you're right when i turned around it was one lady from one couple and a guy from the other couple and i started engaging with them so kissing them both now the lady that was there is bisexual so i don't know about the other lady i have no idea i didn't engage with her and so the lady i was playing with super bisexual and very interested immediately in playing with me i don't know with the both were either, both may not have been, may not have identified as that, but both were certainly engaged with other ladies.
Okay, right. So they were engaging with each other. Okay. So that was interesting. So I think that she was very eager to play with me. And also the new guy was also very eager.
So the three of us did kind of heal and start, you know, doing what you were doing, you know, so we were kissing each other, they were kissing, I was standing in the middle, than kissing from him to her, and that did kind of heal and start you know doing what you were doing you know so we were kissing each other they were kissing I was standing in the middle then kissing from him to her and that was kind of how our play started and then we did actually I think both of us started sucking his cock and then we moved over to the bed and this is when I actually bought the small vibrator for her with me which by the way I charged before we left home and that particular vibrator suggested it has a four hour runtime it does not have a four hour runtime because it ran out while she was playing with it so i've told you that before i told you that the battery in that thing is dead yeah you didn't believe me yeah i feel like i'm gonna like charge it for an entire day and then just leave it on and put a timer next to it and actually see what's going on it's just it's getting old i mean that's the second time to the world of lithium ion batteries that's the second time she's used that toy and it's run out on her by the way so i feel i feel at this point and anyway so we we moved to the bed and i think we were the first ones on the bed if i'm not wrong yes and that's that's actually what dragged us over that's what dragged you over so we we get on the bed and i start her and i start engaging with each other and he then is also coming over and we were both I'm sorry.
I'm and I start, her and I start engaging with each other and he then is also coming over and we were both pleasuring her. So she was laying on her back and we were, you know, kissing her. She was then kissing him and kind of moving down and using the vibrator on her and stuff like that and playing with her clit. And that's kind of how we all started on the bed. So back over to you.
well the two guys are basically playing with the girl so it was i mean one one was kissing which was me and the other was involved in in going down on which was the other gentleman so that happened for quite some happened for some time i suppose and then he went away to he was ready to start having sex with her he went away to do that and that That happened quite quickly, didn't it?
But there was a lot of movement on the bed at that point and I think you guys sort of broke up and got engaged and at that point you stepped backward and I think he then decided rather than playing with the other lady that he was going to try and he was going to do you from behind whilst you were, I don't know whether you weren't really doing anything you just seemed to be like touching and feeling and and you know not necessarily sexually involved i suppose is the best way i could put it yeah well so what actually happened was i he actually must have been coming over to have sex with his wife to be honest and so and his wife at the time was actually actually she was sucking the cock of the other guy and then when he came over I was like he said something and then I said oh my god yeah you need to fuck her from behind while she's sucking the cock of the other dude like that's going to be super hot and also let me just get a toy and we can do this whole like let's let's do this whole thing so I did become a little bit of a director just for something different just something different yeah um which was really really hot at the time and i quite enjoyed that aspect so he was fucking his wife from behind and then she was sucking the cock at the other guy and then i was kind of being like let me just get this toy and use it here and stuff like that so and at that time i was going down on the other lady for for quite a period of time until she felt guilty basically she actually She said that.
i feel guilty i did look up at one point and you you she was going down on you for quite some time so i don't know she was sucking a cock for ages did you enjoy it of course i enjoyed it i mean it was lovely it was fantastic it was a it was everything that i could have hoped for and more i thought that this this particular play session, I must say, with this six-some, had a lot of oral in my experience. Would you say, like, I feel like I sucked every guy's cock in that room. I feel like, you know what I mean, like I was playing with her. There was just a lot of play.
I think there was a lot of play in general. We were in the room for two and a half hours total. Well, yes, we were because I actually, at one point, I went back downstairs nude to get a second bottle of water to bring up and try to dish out to everybody. I was like, let me just go get refreshments, guys. I'll be back in a second. Yeah, so it was a reasonably long session with a lot of fun, you know, all over the place. But it was sexy to watch as well. So I did actually, so with one of the gentlemen, we actually stood back for a while and we were just watching Thank you.
session with a lot of fun you know they're all over the place but it was it was sexy to watch as well so i i did actually so with one of the gentlemen we actually stood back for a while and we were just watching from from the the sidelines was that when i was sitting on faces no okay no it was later on when one of the ladies was going down on you and he was her husband was shaking from behind okay right because so it was very sexy to watch there was a lot of a lot of watching going on as well oh that must have been when she was using the vibrator on me actually possibly yeah i think that was when she's using the vibrator so what i will say is that during the session one couple really must like face sitting because both of them during the session at one point or another said to me like hey come sit in my face i don't know whether you noticed that but i was like i just felt like i was climbing mountains all night i'm like sure here here i come pussy in the face sounds horrible i'm sure you struggled through it well it was pretty unusual for like two different two people in a session to be like hey come come and sit in my face well there was a third who asked you really yeah oh okay that was me oh you didn't do it though no no i was done climbing mountains by that point in time i needed some isotonic basically just told.
You basically just told me to fuck off. Oh, did I? No, not at all. What alternate universe are you working in? Yeah. So, yeah, there was a very, very sexy group and sexy adventure. And at that point, I think we shifted. I actually, after getting head for, I'm going to say, 20 minutes, I was starting to feel guilty. And so I leaned up and said, you know, would you like me to fuck you? And she said, yes, absolutely. So that's when that happened. It was very sexy watching what was going on on the other side of the bed whilst that was happening.
So I think you had a man go down on you at the time and you were kissing a woman. Yeah, that was really sexy for me to watch.
In up coming very reasonably quickly i'm going to say and that was on the back i mean i'm not going to make excuses it just happened because it was a sexy environment yeah um and i wasn't interested in holding off at that point so it happened it is a sexy i then had to go and i had to go and change uh change condoms it is a sexy environment and one of the common i guess comments or questions that we get especially from people considering the lifestyle or just people discussing it for the first time is about that live porn element you know and and i think that there is just something to be said about people just enjoying each other and enjoying themselves you know this is you have to give yourself permission to be able to actually enjoy a situation like this for starters because if you're not not giving yourself permission or if you're feeling elements of guilt, you're obviously going to be holding back a little bit.
So there's that side of it, but it is just live porn, live porn that you're participating in and it is very, very sexy and the sounds and the lights and everything else that go along with that is super fun. So I wanted to point one thing out that happened.
I was sucking his cock at one point in time and she was behind me doing something i think it was a lady behind me doing something else and then there was people fucking outside of the bed because i kept getting but you know when people when you're getting maneuvered when you're trying to give somebody head and then it's like every now and then your head just smashes into the person's uh you know pelvic bone so that was happening but i was giving him i was sucking his cock and i was looking up intensely at him and i don't know whether you were watching this happening but i put i was put my hand i was rubbing my hand up his chest and like over his nipple and then up to his shoulder and it wasn't forceful like it was a little bit harder than you would normally do i guess like it wasn't sensual it was much more of an animalistic like i'm sucking your cock right now and i'm gonna do a great job and he was really enjoying that so he was like grabbing my hand and moved it closer to his collarbone and closer to his neck to indicate like hey i'm okay with this and this is you know this is fine if you want to do that like you can put a bit more pressure on this so while i was sucking his cock for ages by the way and felt like i was doing a really good job so i'm just gonna like give myself a bit of a just throw some props out there for yourself absolutely yeah i i feel like i was putting in i really do like i feel like i was really climbing mountains yeah yeah great job i was putting in and and so that was really interesting and we were doing that for quite a while so he was you know very much into that more like i was looking at him sucking his cock you know putting my hand more pressure on his collarbone and around his neck area and what i realized the next morning when i woke up is that he likes teeth on his cock and i totally forgot about that so i was like missed opportunity totally i wish i'd have remembered that you know because and then i was thinking i made a little joke in my mind i'm like hmm how do you remember what each of your sex partners wants you know just just i guess after playing with them for a while right absolutely yeah so that was interesting and i was like oh that's why he likes it that way because he also likes a bit of teeth as well so he's really he likes that harder element and i was like damn it i totally forgot yeah so it turns out even though you gave yourself props you weren't very good is that what you're saying no i'm saying that there was opportunities for improvement perfect yeah so look at that point i suppose for me it was yeah so i'd actually already come in and had um at that point changed changed condoms and was going back for round two but i think somebody oh that's.
The husband of the lady I was with actually came over and he was trying to get involved. Now to explain there, there were some issues in the room that, that actually ended up driving a, a, a slowdown for me as well in terms of my, because normally I'm back to, back to full status, basically straight away.
I was starting to try and figure out how I could maneuver the other gentlemen to get them into a more appropriate position so they would feel comfortable and and relaxed and you know start uh start having a little more fun than they were having at that point but which took its toll on me unfortunately which was not the first time that's happened. But, you know, I've already been engaged with somebody. So there's, in most cases, people expect a bit of a downtime. But for me, it's not typical that that's the case. It does happen, but it's not typical.
So with trying to help them out, I ended up with a flaccid penis as well because I'm walking around the room trying to, not walking around the room, but trying to manoeuvre people so that they're back with their partners and feeling a little more comfortable, I suppose. And, yeah, so that was where, I mean, I'm sure you've got some bits to add in there as well. Yeah, so I want to probably talk about what I said to you last after we, it's like to finish up because because I think that's a, that's a really important point to discuss. I want to talk about that after we talk about the play.
I mean, that's basically where we, that's basically where I wrapped up. Like I know that you also had sex with the other lady and then later in the evening you had, you took me from behind as well.
Well, I think you're missing one of the, one of the interesting, one of the interesting points, points which was she was giving me head whilst using a vibrator on you and then um then she turned around to focus on you she stood up to do that she's standing beside the bed and that's when i um actually started fucking her from behind yeah so that was uh that was i think a prompter for the for the comment that you actually. And it's important that people understand that. That was a very sexy thing for me to watch, to have her involved with you and me at the same time.
And then maneuver to you and you were actually, I mean, you, as far as I could tell, you actually came while she was doing that. I did. There was a moment where it was almost derailed because that particular vibrator is very strong and and she just had it i think because she was yeah because she was sucking your cock at the same time so clearly she was doing two things at once she did a great job i'm really really impressed with that i know i know and then i think it just like the vibrator just slipped firmly on my clit and i was like under the hood and i was like i on, too much, too much.
Like, back it off. But she managed to recover from that quite nicely and got you off and I then started fucking her from behind. Yeah, and then later when you were fucking me from behind over the top of the bed, I know that she was then back playing with her husband and I think the other couple was engaging with each other as well.
But there was also, I know that people did stop and have a bit of a watch for a while so i think people were taking a break and watching us fucking for a bit as well so yep but um all in all though um and then just to finish off the evening i finished by coming in my wife yeah second time around yeah so yeah so that was i think it was super sexy six amazing people that in the room felt very comfortable together or mostly comfortable together I think that that's not always the case you know where people especially if you don't know people there's not you know you haven't met them or there's not like chemistry or whatever that can be a bit difficult it's like some of the questions also that we get asked is like well what happens if you know we don't have a hell of a lot of chemistry with one of the couples like what do we do how do we maneuver that but this this time it just it just seemed to work really well i would have to say it was super fun yeah yeah it was super fun i really enjoyed it i had a whole lot of fun with the exception of this portion we're about to talk about yeah and um so really fun they're great people and actually the next day we got it we got a text message that night saying like thanks had a great time which was really lovely and the next day they actually invited us to a pool party on this friday so we're going to go see them again so i'm really excited the fact that they're like keen to catch up with us i think that's really lovely and i look forward to like spending a bit of time getting to know them a little bit better yeah aside from just fucking them yeah well i think we did manage to uh manage to have a have a some decent conversation but it was we were kind of separated a bit, so I had conversations with him and her separately, but we never, as a group of four, had a good conversation, so I'm looking forward to it as well.
He's quite a nerd like me. Yeah, me too, and you're right. When you've got six people or eight people or whatever around the room...
Of course, exactly what we're going to do now is now that we've found you know a group of six people really enjoy company we're going to leave the country the fucking country yeah that's what we've done so let's say let's take a quick break and let's come back with a very insensitive stupid comment that i made uh throughout the evening stupid i won't take i think unthought okay we would be the word i'd use we're gonna take a quick break we'll be back in a second okay so let's get on to this comment let's get on to where it's at yeah okay so there you know years and years ago i remember that we spoke about a couple where she said something to her partner mid play and i remember talking in the podcast about the outrage that we both faced hearing her say that and the next day, you know, I was really reflectable.
I was reflecting on what I said that evening, but the next day I really started reflecting on it and, you know, what happened to make me say that out loud because in my mind I'm like, I would never say that out loud. So let me just cut to the chase, guys.
What happened was that when Daryl had finished playing with some of the other ladies you know there's a lot of play he came around and started to engage with me and he had a semi-orect penis kind of when he got to me and then as we started to engage with each other as he said before his cock went flaccid and because i had up until this point only been engaging with like oral with people, I felt like nobody else really wanted to, like, fuck me, and plus the fact that we haven't played with people for a while, and plus wine. I'm not making excuses.
What I said at this juncture was horrendous, and if you're out there listening from podcast land and you hear this and you go, Kate, that was a really insensitive thing to say, I'm with you 100%. I agree.
It's outrageous, and I'm pissed off at myself myself what I want to say to Daryl is I'm sorry for saying it I think it was super insensitive I think it was ill-placed and it came from a position that had I actually sat back and thought about it a little bit I wouldn't have said it it's just that I just let my emotion come straight through my mouth hole and said what's going on so basically I said to Daryl it's you've managed to fuck other women you've been hard for other women but you're not hard for me that's basically what i said to you in a nutshell and i apologize profusely for it it's uncalled for yeah i agree entirely uncalled for and actually really hurt my my feelings and my pride while i was doing that and in fact actually drove then the final interaction with you that i felt was a necessity rather than than being something that uh that i obviously wanted to do which i did want to do anyway but it it's it's interesting how a comment like that can change your perspective from that of being of wanting to be you know of of it you know you still want to be involved but it's just uh it goes from being well i really want to you know i really want to finish with with kate and and that never goes away, but for it to be involved, but it's just, it goes from being, well, I really want to, you know, I really want to finish with Kate, and that never goes away, but for it to be, well, I have to.
Yeah, for like an obligation. Whether I want to or not, or whether I've just, you know, broken my penis in three different ways. Yeah.
I am required now to be able to, one, no matter what the interaction that's going on around me regain an erection and and two i have to get i have to be involved with her as the last person in the room yeah so it was it was shit it was really shit and it really hurt my feelings and this is the first time we've discussed it and i need you to know that it was it was something that i um if if i ever hear again in future i will be leaving the room immediately and i actually do have to i do have to say about that because, if I ever hear again in future, I will be leaving the room immediately.
And I actually do have to, I do have to say about that because honestly, if I am amazed at your ability to hear what I said to you, realize maybe that it's coming, it's not, it's not the usual Kate or I don't know what you, I mean, maybe you can tell me what your thoughts were like that was coming from a weird place, but.
I think you're very lucky that there was a mirror in the vicinity and i managed to look at it and think you know i'm not feeling the best about myself right now and i'm sure kate isn't isn't either and i'm hopeful that that's where it come it came from i did have to walk away from you i don't know whether you noticed that but i did have to walk away and go over i went i mysteriously went back over to our bag to pick up something that didn't exist but i needed to get away from from that. Otherwise, I would have had to have left the room.
And if I did that, that would have put paid to everything and really destroyed the night for everyone, I think, to end it on a negative note. So I made the decision to walk away, to gather my thoughts and to try and recover.
Because, I mean, as any man in the room can say, if if you're the one you know who who is identified as not being the person with the hard cock when it's required um that is an immediate pressure that you have on yourself you know um and and look i'm i have to say i'm i'm very very lucky in that regard in a lot of ways that i don't have to deal with that and and generally it's not i'm i'm not the man in the room that has to deal with that but in this particular instance that any any blood that was in that in in that area at that point was very swiftly removed immediately yeah i understand so it only makes things worse as well and and again thankfully and i can only say thank thank you to the to the body control gods i still managed the ability to to regain myself after that and and finish the way i always wanted to but uh it was it made it a much steeper climb i'm sure than than what it would have been if if that comment wasn't made and and look i'm not going to sit here and honestly sit here and make actual excuses because, like I said, what I said was insensitive and, you know, if you've been listening to us for many, many years, you've heard us many times talk about how to try and help your partner get through maybe some of those difficult situations, but I didn't do that.
I failed to do that. I failed as a good swinging partner.
And, in fact, the next step after that and the reason that i or just before that the reason that i actually um got hard is the is the reason i described before which was the fact that you had a woman who was who was playing with me and you at the same time and i watched you come and that is actually the thing that got me back to the point where i could then fuck her from behind yeah um so it was the irony of all of this is the reason that i was able to regain myself and then play with another woman because of you and because of the fact that i found it very sexy that you're playing with her so it was again i suppose for me another stab in the eye around that because it was like well actually the reason that i'm back to here is because of you and because of me seeing you in the way that i like to see you and yeah you know so yeah it was it was shit yeah really shit like i said i'm not gonna i'm not gonna sit here and make excuses but what i what i will say is that my mind was my mind at that point and where i was at was definitely coming from a place of yeah not not feeling fantastic or warning my partner feeling a little bit left out i guess and then you know i guess also not having that interaction with any of the other guys and then i guess you just took the brunt of that which was just a really shitty thing well the other guys were were struggling to some point as well and actually then at that point partnered up effectively with their with their partners which is why you know which is why i i'm going to use the word which is why i ended up with you know trying to trying to have sex with you even though i even though there were things that were trying to stop me as well and that there was other people in the room that i was maneuvering to get them into a position where they were okay with their partners and my head was on that and then I came back and I was like, okay, well, now I obviously want to have sex with Kate and that couldn't happen because my head was in another place and then one of the couples broke, split, and that's where she started playing with you and me and that's when it all changed again and that was why I recovered as quickly as I did when that happened yeah yeah so it was yeah I don't I don't know it was very disappointing yeah it is disappointing um like I said I'm amazed that you stayed in the room definitely think that I'm glad that you probably see saw that and heard it and and whilst you were hurt still had the capability to say clearly that's not Kate's usual persona clearly that's coming from some other weird place And, you know, whilst you were hurt, still had the capability to say, clearly that's not Kate's usual persona, clearly that's coming from some other weird place, and whilst you were hurt and you were able to kind of just put that aside for the evening and finish it up.
And that did happen very close to the end of the evening anyway. Yeah, I'm not proud of myself for the way I reacted, but certainly it could have been a lot worse.
The thing that I am proud of is that I left it two days before i even asked you about it after the fact to try and give you some time to yeah and i think about it and i was definitely thinking about it and because i think your reaction that night would have been very different if i had brought it up that night and both of us would have been yeah because i was still very angry at that point absolutely and we were playing until like 4 30 in the morning so you know youness involved in there as well. So, no. Sleep deprivation, alcohol, and just general physical tiredness from the event. Yeah.
So, it's difficult to have a pretty balanced conversation with a very emotional brain, obviously. So, yeah. So, that's what happened, guys. Just wanted to – we wanted to talk about – I really wanted to talk about that on the podcast.
One, to openly apologize to Daryl for my super insensitive comment to to explain and to showcase the fact that shit gets real we get stuff wrong um and we're sitting behind these microphones and again i'll go back to the fact that we've told you many times over the years how to manage this and i didn't do it so i just want to you know mention that i was beating myself up for the next day and the day after really thinking about it like what how could i say that to Daryl? How could I say that to my partner? You know, but also thinking I'm lucky that Daryl is pretty level-headed.
And so one of the things as well is, you know, if you do say it, come together, maybe wait a bit, and then discuss it. Don't necessarily try and solve your problems, solve the world that evening. Sorry, that's really all I can say. Thank you for the apology. Yeah.
So that's it from us, from us guys we want to talk about that six and we hope that you found some sexiness in our play we hope that you found some value at the end there please feel free to reach out to us if you want to discuss a similar situation that's happened to you before and look feel free generally when i you know when i'm the one who's fucking up i get a cacophony of emails from people telling me how much of a bad person I am. Feel free to offer that to Kate as well, if you'd like. I mean, I know it won't be the case because she's a, she is truly a lovely human being.
And this is one of those instances where she made a mistake and, you know, I love her for her, for her good and love her even more for her, for the things that she gets wrong.
It's just how life works sometimes but certainly the apology is very nice to hear and the education about what came out of that is is even more nice to hear so but yeah feel free you know if you just want to send her a shit in the post pack in the mail that'd be great just like a big turd just a big hairy turd why is it that whenever i think in my mind about turds i'm like a big hairy turd seems to be like a next level up. I don't know why that is. It's because typically, you know, that's what a dog will drop out. Big hairy turd. Big hairy turd.
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