Want to send us a message? Ever wondered what happens when swingers take their first big leap? In this episode, we dive into our unforgettable night at an Alice-in-Wonderland-themed swinger party hosted on a sprawling ranch, complete with a private theater, hot tub, and intimate encounters. Join us as we share the highs, the awkward moments, and the valuable lessons we learned about boundaries, trust, and safer sex practices in the lifestyle.💥 Highlights:[0:30] The invite: How we got into an exclusive swinger group[4:20] Entering wonderland: The Alice-themed party details[10:15] The theater experience: A full-swap first[14:45] Lessons in trust and safer practices in swinging[20:00] Reflection: What we’d do differently key takeawaysThis episode is perfect for anyone curious about the lifestyle or looking to understand the importance of boundaries and open communication in intimate experiences.Call to Action:👉 Like, subscribe, and share with anyone you think might find this conversation insightful or entertaining! And don t forget to leave a comment about your own thoughts on navigating lifestyle challenges.Top Hashtags: #SwingerExperience #LifestyleLessons #FullSwapFirst #SwingerParty #RelationshipBoundaries Support the showWant More?👀 Watch on YouTube: YouTube ShowFull video versions and interactive live episodes!Bonus episodes, exclusive content, and 🌶️Extras: https://www.patreon.com/SwingerUniversity 🛳️🎉Looking for lifestyle events in your area? T4P is the go-to directory for clubs, parties, and resort events. Browse now at Ticket4Play.com Custom SU T-shirts and gear: Our Amazon StoreSwingerLinks.com - live schedule, special offers*, and our 🌶️links!Our Website - Leave us a message, articles, and sexy products3 Ways to get your question on our show:RECORD it on our website at: https://swingeruniversity.com/contact/EMAIL a recorded voice note to: [email protected]: (916) 538-0482 and leave a voicemail.* We get a commission if you decide to purchase through our links, at no cost to you.
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It's got all kinds of juicy details and some things that we weren't weren't proud of but you know stuff happens yeah some lessons learned for sure for sure and some things that we've figured out since then that we'll let you in on and the dirty secret will come out we were part of a facebook group called do we want to name the facebook group it's defunct now it's all gone it was the fun ones it was called the fun ones who doesn't want to be part of the fun ones it sounded like a lot of fun it was a private swinger facebook group and we got invited because we had been on a meet and greet boat day right started talking with a bunch of people they said oh blah here's this facebook group and we said how do we get in the group right so we got an invitation yeah one of the people who was on the boat was having a birthday party coming up and this was going to be her birthday party and she's like i want everybody to be there it's going to be super exciting it's an alice in wonderland theme which was super cool we were going to come in costume i had know bunny ears and i was the rabbit white rabbit and it was interesting because it was not just a house party this was a sleepover yeah it was way out in the boonies yes way out in the boonies way out can we say way out again and as on a ranch it was a very nice ranch with a very it was an estate basically yeah there were places for people to sleep in bedrooms or you just brought your sleeping bag and a mattress and you slept on the floor or or you had a camper and there were a number of people who had trucks campers and parked those on the property there were a lot of people there and a lot of people slept over yeah they did a couple people just slept in the bed of their truck because it's it was summer then the temperature was nice yeah it was it was great yeah Yeah.
And one of the, and this will come up later, one of the big surprises in the house, besides having like the built-in aquarium and the horses and the big pool and the waterfall and all that kind of stuff, they had a theater downstairs. Oh, yeah. Like a big theater. Yes.
like surprisingly large theater professional full on yeah theater like you would have if you were an actor an actress and you were previewing your own movies yeah theater probably the biggest one i've ever seen we've been watching these million dollar house tours on youtube and i think this was a bigger theater than those it was huge that's so nice so the sleepover part of the party was was a first for us So the first was we didn't know the host. Right. We knew of them. We knew they're part of the group. We knew maybe one or two or three couples. Right. We had never slept over before.
It's in the middle of nowhere. So there was all these unknowns, which was really not great for my comfort level because I. Yeah. Too many unknowns. And this is when we were still really nervous about a lot of stuff in the lifestyle.
I don't think we were more than what two years in the lifestyle a year and a half in we were late bloomers yes and we'd only soft swapped up to this point yes correct so there was a lot riding on this evening for this weekend so and if i remember right the conversation was if this particular couple is going to be there and we kind of knew that they were going to be there I don't know.
so and if i remember right the conversation was if this particular couple is going to be there and we kind of knew that they were going to be there what do you think i mean would they would they be maybe the first full swap couple like should we shouldn't we right i think we had a lot of discussion leading up to that party about that particular couple and yes, they'd become the chosen ones for us. Right. We were targeting them. Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time. Yes.
so this couple that we had found through the boat day actually our first introduction to them they pulled up to the dock and the missus had kind of leaned over the front of the boat to kind of like grab the dock. She was very well endowed. Yes. Which was very inviting. So, we had to get on that boat. Yeah, we absolutely got on that boat and it was great. And the mister was very, very handsome. Yeah, he was fit. He was a good looking guy. So we walked in, we put our stuff down and there was, oh, and we brought food. Everyone brought food. So it was like a potluck.
yeah so there was a ton was a ton of alcohol, a ton of mixers, a ton of food. Of course, when you go to these things, there's just a ton of everything. You can't ever drink it all or eat it all. Right. There's usually way too much food. Yeah. So, once again, our contribution probably went in the trash later that night. But that's okay. Food was great.
music there's lots of conversation we didn't have a room but we did have a spot where we could put our stuff upstairs kind of on this landing area which was nice and open almost like a sitting area if you wanted to make it uh we got a tour of the house we already told you about theater room and then let's talk about outside first yeah so really large outdoor patio space multiple levels there was a a large pool with not just a fountain like this was like a rockscape cliff yes waterfall with infinity edge yeah yeah hot tub very large hot tub probably a 10 person hot tub yes built in with more rock structures like something you'd see at a resort yeah yeah it was kind of crazy it was fabulous you know the multi-colored lights shifting lights the whole thing oh yeah that's right yeah there was like a little mini stage at one end of the pool remember there was a guy a really attractive guy the boyfriend he was dancing up there there was lights shining on him Yeah.
It was almost like a stripper pole stage dance area. And there was plenty of seating outdoors, some couches right along the back of the house. And people were just hanging out, having a good time, great conversation, like you said. And as the evening progressed, it started to get a little bit darker.
And so the lights came up and the tiki torches and all the fun stuff started coming out at some point during the evening i remember people started playing in the small living room area right off the kitchen like right there right like on the couches and stuff and i remember being a little shocked because it's right there right right next to the food and right next to the food so it it was a very intimate it was they were very intimate acts there was more than person one one person having intercourse or some sort of soft swap there.
And it felt uncomfortable for me to just be snacking or pouring a drink because I didn't want to distract them. So, I was torn between sustenance and drink and watching live porn and honoring one and not having conversation. I didn't know what to do. It was all very awkward. I felt very, very awkward. Yeah, I think in general, we felt pretty awkward that night. I did. It was an awkward night.
So, we kept running into this couple that we were targeting and, you know, having the uh you know just you know dropping hints and trying our best to make it known that we were we were really interested in them right soft swap so we made our preferences known and they had reciprocated and said yeah we're pretty selective we're picky we haven't been with very many couples yeah it we're pretty selective. We're picky. We haven't been with very many couples. Yeah. It's, you know, we're interested too.
And I think at that point we'd kind of hit the right time in the evening where everybody was comfortable enough.
And we had the brilliant idea to go down to the theater yes and have sex there yes because because i was like who can say they're had sex in a theater right and i got arrested right right so let's go do it down there because the whole i mean the whole property was pretty much anywhere you want to go yeah and have sex yeah i'm like let's go down there it was also private it was quiet and there was porn playing on the theater screen so there was plenty of sound and stimulation if i remember i too there weren't there like beanbags in the front too where i think people could hang out there anyway yeah so yeah we made our way down yeah and we paired off and we picked seats right next to each other yes we did we started off with oral sex right and there wasn't a lot of conversation about preferences.
We did say we were soft. And that's basically it. I mean, we didn't know. We didn't know what we didn't know. We didn't have a lot of wishes, directions, yeses in our repertoire. So we couldn't really say, is what i want to do right i also wasn't really great at asking for what i wanted and and being confident just saying that yeah that hadn't hadn't really come out yet right so that's i do remember scrunching so far down into that that theater seat that my neck oh, my God. The next day, my neck got so tweaked because, you know, I'm like this.
And your neck is practically, you know, at your belly button, your chin. These weren't reclining theater seats. These were kind of old school theater seats. Yeah.
Nice and cushy, but not the reclining ones yeah not super deluxe so i don't know how long we've been going at it a nice long time it was good oral we i i got to look over at you and watch you and there was a boob grab and yeah and um at some point we decided to have the conversation about trying full swap right and so he said hey uh you want to try it and everybody said yeah let's let's do it right so where were our condoms you know that's a really good question. I'm not sure where they were. I don't know where they were because we didn't use one. No.
And that was really weird for us because we're big on safer sex practices and using condoms all the time.
But I think in the of our heads we'd kind of figured quote they were safe because they were selective and said they hadn't played much right which made us think well okay they're they're married they're together they haven't played very much with other people so really it's just their risk level is low yes that was what we were thinking that was what they had told us yeah the sex was fun i had a good time um got to sit down she climbed up in my lap she did a little oh yeah girl on top oh righty ride thing in the seat of the theater chair that was really sexy really sexy having theater lights the lights from the screen kind of light everybody up and all their parts and she was a lot of fun she's a lot of fun i like touching her she's so soft she was she was very soft and squeezy Thank you.
parts and she was a lot of fun. She's a lot of fun. I like touching her. She's so soft. She was she was very soft and squeezy. Squeezy. Yeah. Very squeezy. So yeah so that happened and I think I think also part of that was just us being awkward right that that transition of let's get the condom. We were in the mood. It was sexy. We felt like breaking that would would ruin the mood and we didn't want to ruin the opportunity.
And now in years later, yeah, it was it wouldn't have been a big deal yeah but we did it we did it and we I think the other component to this and this is this is important I think this is another key takeaway from this was this was our first time so we were super excited to do it yes like really excited to do it like this is a first this is like losing your virginity oh gosh yeah and i don't think we were thinking clearly no no because i did never experience all these emotions and the hormones and all that stimulation all at once it's very overwhelming oh yeah very overwhelming and there you have it that that kind of went down like that yes and so we we finished down there and then we went upstairs to continue the party and we had discovered pretty much everyone left the house and they were all down at the hot tub.
Right, right. So, we decided to join everybody else. Yeah. We got in some water. We'd rehydrated, right? Because we had just, you know, we were hot. Yep. And we ended up in the hot tub with a bunch of other couples and this couple again. And we ended up having sex again with them. In the hot tub. In the hot tub. Bad. Really bad idea. Bad for the vagina, but it was a lot of fun. Yeah. There were blowjobs on the side of the pool.
I remember, and there's a photo of me giving a blowjob it might be you but I think there's a photo of me so and then so yes photos happened which was also another rule no no no photos we were not out so now that's out there and I I didn't know it was too late someone snapped a shot i was like oh my gosh yeah we got we found him later on facebook in the group this is before facebook was policing by the way you can't do that anymore you would absolutely get caught so yeah right so now two two things two rules already broken right out the window all the rules gone we so did that for a little bit got some more food got some more water we've now rehydrated we've recharged we're ready to go again and we're still horny so we go to the lounge chairs yeah well we were well, we were in the pool first for a little bit.
For a little bit, yeah. Flirting with a single female. Single female. Also very new for us. And we end up on one of the lounge chairs with this lady. So it's the three of us kind of...
Softapping and all this doing some fun stuff that was great except if you've ever had sex on one of those folding chase lounges for the pool you'll know that they're really wide and I ended up with the worst rug burns on the insides of my legs from straddling that thing it was terrible like I think it was actually bleeding it was it was bad it was bad but it was fun high five to you for not giving up nope gotta stick with it gotta gotta pull through so yes I was the recipient of of all sacrifice that you made, which was a lot of fun. Right. So, here we are having sex in front of people.
They're cheering on us on at the hot tub. Yep. And we'd never done that before either. Another first. Right. Right.
We just, we let it all out that night we did we were just all in so yes we probably hydrated some more we probably had some more food i may have drank a little bit more at that point but we things were winding down people were starting to kind of like peel off and and find their little bed places yeah so we said okay let's you're sore at this point i was really i'm tired i'm knock need and yeah your legs are bleeding my vagina's got all kinds of uh chlorine in it micro tears the whole deal all of that yeah and you want to have sex with me right because i'm still horny so we make our little bed up on this landing right and we're laying there and you're like reaching over you know uh groping and touching and i'm so we start to have sex i think yeah and i think it was partially because we could hear someone in the next room having sex so there's sounds of sex all over this house like everywhere oh great and so i'm getting in the mood again and you're going i don't know if i could do this i don't know if we could do it but we'll we'll try we've got lube and we're doing the whole thing and then we we finally i think we go okay can we talk about october for a second oh my god Yeah, I been waiting for this we were invited to be guest speakers for two engagements on a six-star crystal cruise ship with 310 lifestyle couples and it sails from montreal to boston during the peak foliage season i'm super excited and honestly i'm really nervous yeah it's kind of a version of like a swinger ted talk that we're gonna have to do oh my god i know and more importantly if you know the brand it's llv luxury lifestyle vacations you may have seen them and they're sexy playmakers with their fun red hats.
This ship, the Crystal Symphony, is classy. Butler service for every single room, Michelin rated restaurants, full spa, clothing optional, sensual playrooms, like everything, theme nights and international dj so it's luxury and nudity. Oh, man, this is going to be great. The bottom line is we want you there with us. It's 310 couples. And like all their vacations, they book up fast. They really do. Their vacations are extremely popular. So please come with us.
and in order to find it all you have to do is go to our swingerlinks.com and look for the llv sensual voyage we hope you'll join us we this is a prime opportunity the sounds kept going and going and And we're like, oh my gosh, here's another great opportunity. Let's, let's go for it. Like we're, we're like all in let's, let's knock on the door. I mean, when in Rome, do the Roman orgy. Yes. So let's just, we did. We'd like very gently tapped on the door and the door opened and we noticed that they were in the shower. Yes. And this fabulous redheaded man with a beard and opens it.
I wish I could find him again. He was very attractive. He was a funny guy too. Charming and funny. Yeah. Hilarious. Great personality. Yes. And so, yes. So then he, poof, disappeared and then went into the shower. Right. And we're like, where did they go? Where'd they go? So we're like, do we follow them? I don't know. So we did. So we're now standing in the bathroom watching them shower. Right. Soaping themselves, rubbing themselves.
Which was fabulous was fabulous super great who gets to watch that they towel off they come out of the bathroom they jump in bed and they start going at it right and right there right now i think there was three people in that room there may there may have been unless another person came but i know there was two girls and a guy for sure so they're going at it and i think they invited us to the bed we we were on the bed but it was still kind of separate play same bedroom which is that's very traditionally what we had done and so So there was all of us on the bed going at it. Yeah.
same bedroom which is that's very traditionally what we had done and so yes there was all of us on the bed going at it yes having a great time laughing just the great noises the great visuals like everything's going on all at once meanwhile bb's pussy is on fire right Right. Fire. It's like so painful now. Everything hurts. But you know how pain kind of turns to pleasure? It's painful, but it's pleasurable. So there is this weird combo of pain, pleasure, pain, pleasure. I have been there. So, yeah, I wanted to stop, but I wanted to keep going.
then eventually i tapped out because because we were gonna break something i was broken for sure for sure and i was probably not doing much better after that either i'm pretty sure i was raw i think this all the skin came off your penis exfoliationfoliation in the best possible method, but still really painful. Oh, my God. Okay, so yes, next morning, we did get some good sleep-ish, I think. Yeah, I think we passed out at that point and just slept through.
We wake up in the morning breakfast greeted everybody everybody was still really like on speaking terms nothing right i was going on really nervous about the morning after yeah and you know because people are different in the morning and you know people yeah people were nice people were cordial friendly yep everybody hug We helped clean up. Helped clean up a little bit and had our coffee and off we went. Off we went. Drove home. Had probably the most intense conversation ever on the way home. Oh, yeah.
And it was, like I said, out in the boonies, so we had a good couple hours to talk about it all the way home. Yeah. Yeah. What a night. What a night. It was a night. And we were good about not beating ourselves up, about not using condoms, but we had decided that can never happen again. Right, right. And what we discovered years later. And this is where it comes up. Here's the lesson. Here's the lesson. No matter what people tell you, oh, I've been tested. Oh, I'm clean. Oh, we only play with others. Oh, we have a tribe or a quad that we only play with. We never, right?
Absolutes are never absolutes. Right. So.
People have selective memories or in the case of this particular couple, they were unaware of each other's behavior and one of them had been stepping out of the marriage the relationship yeah and having sex on the side and that came out later like a year or two years later and we found out and that explained so much and then i was pissed because now i'm thinking oh my gosh you know what if i what did we get what did we get yeah so um we i don't i don't know if we had gone and got ourselves tested right after that that uh party it it would i don't remember but it wouldn't surprise me if we did because we did yeah we were pretty risky i mean very risky and we weren't prepared for that no uh that that break in our rule so yeah i think we waited probably a month or two to get tested to make sure that we were outside of the the window yeah right and then we got tested and then of course you know as everyone knows well if you don't you really have to wait three to six months before you test again before you're actually clear so taking your test a week before your local adult resort trip and it comes back clear doesn't really mean you're clear.
Right, right. Yeah, that was our first full swap.
A lot of rules broken, a lot of lessons learned, but you know, it was a really epic time yeah we i mean we walked away with it just an amazing experience a great story and memories like like yesterday oh yeah vivid memories and wondering where some of those lovely people went but as as we know people come and go pretty frequently it's difficult to find people that stay in the lifestyle yeah yeah and and it's unfortunate that group did finally just kind of dissolve and everybody went their own way yeah and facebook kind of ruined it too when they started locking down or they did yeah yeah and we we'd created a second group from there.
It just wasn't the same. It wasn't the same. Yeah. Anything else you want to add to that sexy story? Any other lessons? No. I mean, I think the valuable lesson in that was just, you know, don't go by what people say.
Because they're either forgetting or they're not being truthful or right who knows you just don't know yeah you do you you stick to what you're comfortable with and honestly if they don't like it then they're not for you and it i get it it's frustrating because there you are the perfect moment the perfect time and we'd we'd been in so many places where the opportunity was right there but we just didn't pull the trigger we didn't make the move and this time they got away or they got away yeah the mood change or whatever so yeah absolutely but you know what i was thinking even with condoms that still would have been an epic night sure yeah although you probably would have been even more torn up but that's a whole other topic but yeah the condoms wouldn't have ruined the experience at all like it still would have been a first it still would have been exciting there's.
There's still all of that fun stuff going on. Yes. So, you know, you don't have to take that risk. In order to have a good time. In order to have a good time. And the lifestyle is risky enough as it is. Yeah. So, take the extra precaution. Take the extra five minutes. And if you know that you're going down to the theater room, bring your go bag. Because you know what you're going to do there. So, get the go bag. Yay! Can we go back to that party? I wish. I wish. well thanks for tuning in and listening to our way back story of our first full swap experience. Don't forget your homework.
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