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And use our code at checkout. And you guys, if you have any questions about the event, the resort, or what to expect, just reach out. I mean, we're here for you. We're happy to help. So once again, ticketforplay.com forward slash Swinky, the code SwingerU-VIP. We really want to see you there. Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program, bringing you an educational podcast about swinging. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe. Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe. Today we're talking about our experience at a house party known for swinger clicks and how we broke into them.
Not the party or the house, but into the click. We also discuss consent and reveal how we've hit a new level of comfort in the lifestyle. So we just got back from PCAP. We had a great weekend. We met amazing people. PCAP, Palm Screams. Palm Screams. Ooh, that's a good one. Palm Screams, yeah. Actually, it was. There was a lot of screaming going on. There's a fair amount of noise.
Palm Screams good so much fun so much fun to meet all of these great people not only the podcasters but the listeners and the fans and it was it was fun um to to kind of connect with people who listen to us and we don't ever get to see face-to-face. I mean, we're literally sitting in our second bedroom recording this right now. Yes, with the swinger wear hanging. With the swinger hang, yeah. I see Phoebe's... On my movable rack. Pop art. Outfit. Outfit sitting here.
An article from the the two hot wives their their lingerie swap i i have an article from there hanging up yeah i have uh this thing whatever glow night flow night bracelets oh and some rubber ducks which rained down upon us uh-huh there'll be a picture of that on twitter yeah we're We're going to post some fun pictures from that. But I really wanted to thank everybody who was there. You made it a very special weekend.
We truly felt like we got to connect with everybody that we actually interacted with, but there were a few people who we had one-on-one conversations with and some pretty deep conversations with those individuals and it was it was such a fantastic connection and we felt like we actually kind of helped some people get through some stuff which was super cool for us yeah i was really honored that they really trusted us to just bear their soul it was it was very special and i and i get it i mean you feel like you're so alone sometimes in this journey you can't really you can't really read about it anywhere you can more now talk to your friends about it you can't know your family about it so who you know who do you talk to about it and you don't want to just pick anybody out at a party or event because they're there to have a good time not some like deep conversation like you know it's just i get it i get it so i felt i felt very honored yeah it was good and there were so many sexy people there too like not just nice to talk to but nice to look at yes there was and touch and rub and squeeze and kiss lots of fun so that's fantastic um and we will absolutely go back again even if we're Even if we're just participants and not panelists yeah that'll be awesome it'll be better i'll be less in work mode yeah and we want to throw a special shout out to cowboy and muffin thank you for your patreon support and humboldt snoopy for yours.
And it was nice meeting both of you guys at PCAP. Yes. Had some great conversations and some fun kind of special connections with you guys, which was fun. Sweet, sweet people. Love you guys. All right. Here's the scene. We're getting into it. This was a huge house party party this is a house party in our area that throws a house party at least once a month and they do it as a business so it is a large house party they do put a cap on it of what honored people i don't know but yeah i have heard that there are limits but you a spot for- It feels like a hundred people every time.
There's a lot of people there. They have a pool, they have a hot tub, they have five play areas inside the house, three play areas outside.
And I say areas, they're like little areas, but the pool area, there's literally beds all around the pool right just like at desire pearl whatever so that's a big area to play and then there's an exhibition space in the living room which is super hot which is a play area but it is all exposed and we love that dance floor slash exhibition bed yes so great i love it oh my god it's so funny how i love that so much and people are other people hate that so much they're just like ah exhibition blah we always end up playing in that kind of the front living room space that's at the the other side of the kitchen and there are chairs all around there so it's it's almost always a voyeur's yeah and but i will say even though i'm an introvert and it takes me a while to warm up to the crowd i do like the exhibitionist style i like being watched But i'm not that kind of person that just walks in the door starts stripping off my clothes and starts prancing around like i've taken over the world hell no i am not that person i blend in i get a feel for the crowd and the people way before i'm like just burying it all to the world in front of everybody.
But as soon as you're ready, I'm ready. You are ready. And we're on the bed and we are doing whatever in front of everybody. Yeah. And at that point, you don't even care. No, I don't care who's watching.
The self-consciousconsciousness just kind of evaporates i need people's energy to keep me going because i get tired so i i'm i'm really that's what i am i'm just an energy vampire that's all it is i'm just sucking all of your energy the sexual vibes give it to me that must be what it is it works for me so they these parties always have lots of food they even have free shots and alcohol they always do a specialty drink and they have energy drinks for you and plenty of water and soda so they really do a good job you pay a fee they always have you know to get through door, and they always have a security guard there.
And I think they have a couple security guards. One, definitely at the door. He makes sure that you are on the list and you're someone that can be there. And two, he also, he or she also ensures that when you leave, you're not drunk. Right. And if you, you know, you can drive, basically. And they will take your keys if you cannot and get you an Uber if you need one. So, it's nice. I appreciate that. So, we've kind of set the mood and we had heard before we'd gone to the first party, this was a while ago, that it could be a little clicky.
You know, people kind of congregate together and they have their little cluster of of fellow swingers that they've met and hung out with before. And so. OK, can we talk about October for a second? Oh, my God. Yeah, I've been waiting for this. We were invited to be guest speakers for two engagements on a six-star crystal cruise ship with 310 lifestyle couples. And it sails from Montreal to Boston during the peak foliage season. I'm super excited. And honestly, I'm really nervous.
Yeah, it's kind of a version of like a swinger TED talk that we're gonna have to do oh my god i know and more importantly if you know the brand it's llv luxury lifestyle vacations you may have seen them and they're sexy playmakers with their fun red hats this ship the crystal sym, is classy. Butler service for every single room, Michelin rated restaurants, full spa, clothing optional, sensual playrooms, like everything. Theme nights and international DJ. So it's luxury and nudity? Oh man, this is going to be great. The bottom line is we want you there with us. It's 310 couples.
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And in order to find it, all you have to do is go to our swingerlinks.com and look for the llv sensual voyage we hope you'll join us i always i don't really like that word as we've discussed before yeah but i'm always curious about it and i know i'm like okay well i wonder what that means so let's go figure that out our earliest experiences were people who'd known each other before and just got back together and sure instead of feeling lonely and like a deer in headlights you you know all the scared deer cluster together in protecting each other so it's less click and more just hey these are people i know and i don't feel so awkward and so and i'm at the party i can like hang out with them it happens i'm laughing but that's a real thing it's 100 what it is and so if you anyway they look like me i'm going to go over here.
They're brown and furry. We don't like the term click because if you look up the definition, it's small and exclusive group and keyword exclusive group of people that share similar values and purposely exclude others that they feel don't meet their standards.
And swingers don't that swingers don't exclude other people they're very inclusive and warm and loving individuals so that's why that that i've never by this definition yeah never seen a click no at a party i have seen people who were maybe not the best at socializing right but it wasn't uh well we don't want to talk to you it's just we're awkward at talking yeah we're either awkward or oh my god i haven't seen this friend in six months i need to catch up with them right yes i mean even even running into people who we maybe don't gel with very well we'll still be social with them and interact with them and say hi to them and give them a hug like we've had play partners show back up at parties at the same time as us and it was like yeah like we wouldn't sleep with them again but we'll say hi for sure absolutely there's no need to be like weird about it right it's just sex and if you do see the the huddled group of deer right the people who circled their wagons how do you how do you get around them or through them right like how are you bust into those groups right right we we we just break into them and start introducing ourselves in fact at pcap i saw a fun technique there was a woman who broke into this group at the pool it was a probably a group of six and she just used her backup technique she backed in she backed in used her ass oh oh excuse me pardon me oh oh oh hi is that oh i'm so sorry so she just like started bumping into this other guy rubbing her ass all over him and of course that that invoked a laughter and conversation and all of a sudden she was in the circle right you could use your boobs too that's true and if you a guy, this technique doesn't work quite as well because you're rubbing your junk on people.
No. That might not work. This is where women get away with a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot more leeway in that. That's for sure. All right. I just need to. I'll be the. You'll be the bumper. I'll be the bumper. I'll be the ice he'll be the bumper. I'll be the bumper. I'll be the icebreaker. Clear the way. But even if you're not going to, you know, use that particular technique, there are plenty of others where he's just kind of weighed up to the group.
We did this at the pool a bunch of times at PCAP and just kind of wait for a moment in the conversation and then just chime in or say hi or go, Hey, I don't think we've met and extend your hand. And I've never had anybody look funny at me.
Everybody's always stuck their hand out and go, Oh, hi, I'm Mark or Mike or John or, and gentlemen, typical etiquette would be to introduce yourself to the gentlemen in the crowd and then let them introduce their wives if you go straight for the wife some guys get a little weird about that just just a tip and and i i feel comfortable saying hello introducing myself right away not just standing there awkwardly staring at them because that then you never you never get people's attention you just have to do it boom walk up boom do it just do it that's how it is and there's another really cool technique too especially if you're new like if this is your first party or your first pcap or your first, you know, hotel takeover or whatever, you actually have an advantage over the senior people because you can go, hey, we're new here.
We're really nervous and shy. And we thought we'd introduce ourselves and everybody's going to be fresh meat.
And I mean, they'll be happy to meet you right right yeah i've never heard anyone say oh really well uh get out we don't want you here right new people are not welcome oh heck no now there are people who don't play with newbies um just because there's a whole bunch of complications when you're first into the lifestyle, but no one's's gonna not meet you or be happy to introduce themselves to you or even introduce yourself introduce the group to you right so don't be shy just walk in i will say i had one interaction at pcap where i busted in and i said Hey we'd really like to you know we'd really like to you know talk with you guys and i got the i got a finger an index finger up near the face or in between us it wasn't pointed at me it was pointed up but it was at face level right so you know not down up face level where i could see it and it said one moment and i'm not sure if there was other words there because i was so fixated on the finger that that non-verbal gesture that i was like and i instantly felt like oh my gosh and so i was like oh oh okay and so i remember then i hung around for about a minute and then it felt awkward so then i stood a little further away for a two or three more minutes and then it really got awkward i was like oh fucking i'm out of here yeah if they want to find me they can find me i lost opportunity well it's well it's not going to happen right right that was really weird for me that was that was unusual here's why we sail on virgin it's adults adults only.
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They must have been involved in something some serious dialogue it was not that serious of a conversation it looked like they're trying to coordinate a date which i'm all about you know trying to coordinate a date but like especially if it was a fuck date then okay yeah you know got to get but i i don't i don't but that was rare i'm just just saying back to our house party oh sorry yes and i mean the situations were exactly the same i mean like we can draw parallels across a whole bunch of parties that we've been to where you know you can kind of just break into a group a cabana you name it right like they've got the little v table.
You can still introduce yourself to them. It's not an exclusive thing. I mean, you have to be invited to sit down, but there's no reason why you couldn't introduce yourself to them. I mean, they're there for a reason. And we like to do our introductions as earlier in the night as possible because that's when people are usually a little more aware. You know, you have a few drinks, you know, you get a little tipsy or whatever, fuzzy. It's just nice to just kind of do it in the beginning when people remember your name and stuff like that.
And you can make a good impression and they'll remember you. Yeah. Yeah. So at that party, into some juicy stuff, we met, actually, we met Mr. and Mrs.
and mrs real there that was our first yes first meeting we've talked about them before but we haven't talked about this and for fuck's sake she's so sexy and so of course sexy walks up to me and she's like hi she's all super flirty and i'm like well hi she's giving me the eyes she's batting her eyes and her lips are looking fabulous and she's super sexy and we were basic the energy was there and we were just basically making out within i don't know it seemed like five seconds yeah it was almost instantaneous it was like hi hi and mr real was standing there Here we go.
within i don't know it seemed like five seconds yeah it was almost instantaneous it was like hi hi and mr real was standing there with his drink and i was standing there with my drink and we were both just like sup how you doing i know just watching us and there's the girls just going at full split it literally was zero to zero to 60 in like 3.4 seconds. It was so good. It was so good. So we were making out and then all of a sudden, I don't even know how this happened. So just like the vibe, the energy, the music, maybe it was a little later in the evening, had a few drinks. I don't know.
It was later. Yeah later yeah actually it was because we were on our way out the door almost yeah yeah and so we were somehow I ended up on the couch and she her face was between my legs and she was you know it happened sometimes I slipped and she fell right in my pussy yeah Yes. You know, sometimes it just happens at parties. Yes, yes. And so here I am on the couch where everyone can see. In the exhibition room, right? Which is the dance floor slash bed. Slash. And there's Phoebe with a blonde head just bobbing between her legs. Yeah, yeah. It was so fun. Oh, my God.
Oh, that's a new Halloween game, bobbing for clitorises. Oh. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm them hey i just thought of a new party game that'd be so fun all right you guys that's a good idea you have to do it so at the end of this right So here's somebody who we'd never so fun. All right, you guys, that's a good idea. You have to do it. So, at the end of this, right? So, here's somebody who we'd never met before. They just walked up and introduced themselves. The next thing you know, oral sex is going on, and we end up with a play date with them later.
Like, we were like, totally, like, here's our card.
We we have to get together this is why sometimes i think that we're sluts because this happened in costa rica too because i just introduced myself to a guy i was on my way to the bathroom from the pool at the bar and all of a sudden it went from high to full makeout session something about the energy or the connection and boom and you're in and it's like wow that was hot we need to go fuck now because we we might actually be sluts i think we are maybe we're the real true dtf people i don't know you may have gone from soft swap to dtf there you go i'm gonna have to re we've progressed reevaluate myself now well you know that's the thing if the chemistry is right yeah and and we've seen this on profiles before too where people are like we don't we don't always fuck on the first date no but we're open to it right we're the same way like yeah you know you could you go out for drinks with a couple and a couple's super hot and you there's just chemistry there like there's a miracle of miracles there's the four-way connection everybody gets along we're all laughing why not go have sex with them exactly because if you don't you you may not get another shot their babysitter may not line up it's they're gonna be out of the lifestyle in three months yeah i know get it while it's hot sorry sorry i was in a groove i haven't sung in a while i was getting my little jam on we're hitting a new comfort level obviously right we we play same room but we're we're getting a little more comfortable being out of that room the same room temporarily right and situationally so for example in in the exhibition and exhibitionist room ed was was in good hands with our our good friend our our single corn and i needed some water so i'm like you two and i trust her well, and, you know, she's not threatening, and I just love her.
She was babysitting me. She was. She was chaperoning my car. He is in good hands. I don't have anything to worry about, right? So, off I go to get some water. And, you know, I wasn't worried about all these, you know, details, and I went and got some water. But what happened while you were away? Yes. You ended up. Well, actually, I am going to talk about that later. Okay. I am going to talk about that later. I'm going to talk about. Yes.
Another thing that we're not real worried about are those details when we go to an event right like all the what ifs that used to paralyze me what if this happened right yeah you used to have it all planned out in your head like we're going to get there at this time we're going to do this we'll make three rounds what's my contingency plan for this or what happens if this goes on and oh my god i just i would paralyze myself it was I don't really have a plan um but we have more of this what we call a huddle midway through a night that gives us a strategy on who we want to pounce on right so before we before we used to have a plan where we're like, oh, we're going to meet and talk to three people, right?
One was like a risk strategy. Yes. How are we going to avoid having a bad night? And now we've made our rounds. How to have a good night. Yeah. Yeah. We've had a good night. We we're relaxed we've seen the entire crowd who do we want to pounce on and and we start looking around the room and it's like okay well they were kind of hot and they seemed interested in this other one so should we go up and ask them if they want to yes bounce yeah this is where the strategy comes in.
And this is where I, what I love about the Allures parties, these hotel parties is you have a very limited amount of time to get in and do your thing. You know, you, you have to meet people quickly. I mean, this is what, six hours for this party, six, eight hours. Yeah.
And so you paid your price, you dressed, you drove down, drove down you got to get in make the connections coordinate a pre-party a post-party or in the playroom and whether you want to get a crowd together or not usually we try to get a crowd together because we have so many options at these parties we're like we can't just have sex with one we want to have sex with more let's maximize our how do we get the orgy set up yeah then you get a threesome or foursome or fivesome or sixsome so super fun so we also i think attribute some of these experiences the number of our experiences to that familiarity for us to gauge a situation and an activity which equals comfort for us right we we faked it until we made it so we've gotten to a point now where we we tried and now it's it's And we feel comfortable walking up to a couple, waiting up to the really hot couple at the edge of the pool and opening up that conversation and like creating a situation and an opportunity because we're not afraid to approach people.
Well, we're still afraid to approach people, but we get over it and we just do it because they're not afraid to approach people well we're still afraid to approach people but we get over it and we just do it because they're not gonna bite i know we all have our moments though yeah all right so so back to the story getting back to the story ed's with this our single unicorn single corn yeah and i go leave to get water ed's playing on the bed in the living room exhibition area he's all what happened to phoebe waving to the crowd yeah phoebe where are you so i got distracted coordinating another fuck date and ed had to come find me can't leave her alone for a minute i saw this tall dark handsome man and i was like oh you are looking really fine and he was chatting me up and i was chatting him up and he's like we need to coordinate something i'm like yes we do we could do that right now i said let me go get ed no time like the present and so he's like i said where's your lady and so we're coordinating you know having all this coordinating discussion right and so we decided to grab our dates and head to one of the private rooms because they didn't want to do exhibition right and yeah so which is hilarious considering what we ended up doing with them that they were shy i know i know they were they were so down it was awesome so it was so funny when ed came to find me he's like where you been what's it what's going on i'm like uh we're going to the back room and we're gonna go fuck with this new couple and ed's like uh okay i'll get the toys so oh god we should do i even talk about that story in here a little bit i do we're going to get back to that we're going to tease you a little bit we'll touch base back onto that so consent consent is always a bonus haha alright it's it's important it's very important and that okay so i wasn't too far off our subject but the girl i hadn't met the girl the partner i think it was his girlfriend well it was her his girlfriend it wasn't his they weren't married and uh i actually did remember meeting her about earlier in the evening and so he he gathered her up and we all headed off to the back bedroom and um i were all getting in you know starting to get undressed and I'm asking, you know, what her preferences were.
I said, do you have any preferences? Do you have any boundaries? And her boyfriend spoke for her and said, oh, she's good with anything. And I was like, what? Like, does she not speak? Because I really want to hear it from her lips. Right. Because anything could be anything. And I don't think this girl's down for just anything well but we did get some we just said it she was she was down for the butt yeah and so of course i didn't like his answer so i looked in her eyes looked in her eyes and I said, you know, I got some eye contact from her and I said, anything? Like, what are you good with?
What are your preferences? What are you into? She's like, yes. Basically, like, I am good for anything. I am good for anything. And I'm like, wait, anything? And she's like, yes. And I'm like, I had really good eye contact from her. So, I was like, all righty. So, in case it went there, who knows, right? Well, so, I felt comfortable. I looked at Ed. Ed felt comfortable. I looked at everybody, everyone felt comfortable. I'm like, all right, let's go.
So, you know, I wasn't, you know, You never i i wasn't sure when i when he answered for her i was like oh is this a dom sub situation and i wanted to be respectful right and you know we've kind of got caught in that before where someone didn't tell us they were in a dom situation right and actively talked and i talked to the got chastised for talking to his wife, girlfriend, whatever i said oh you should only speak to me i was like oh i'm sorry i didn't know and so i not kinksters don't know all the rules yes so i i did hesitate a little but in innately i just felt really awkward about him speaking for her so i was like i really when when there's anything on the table i really had to be sure i just had to know i had to look her in the eye so we did and it was and it was fun and and uh we had sex we we had sex there was a lot of fun they were really hot couple yes and and you had i i i fucked her in the ass as as that goes it was sexy it was it was interesting i'm not that big on anal sex i'll i know you're not and i and i love it which is why we really need to get me a butt plug, because I do like it.
We have butt plugs. I think we got rid of that one. Oh, no, we've still got it. Okay. Well, I might want a different one. There's lots of different kinds. I don't know that you have a sparkly one. You have a blinky one. I have a blinky one. And we have a little blue training wheels butt plug.
I need one that feels more like like you that fills me up jesus i don't know if they yeah they probably do make some you know they make different shapes we'll get you one all right we're on a shopping list if you have recommendations for yes for phoebe's anal pleasure uh-huh send them through we'll do uh we'll do a patreon episode on uh on anal play that'll be fun that that will be interesting phoebe's new toy so we had a very sexy time they were super fun and um oh we've never seen them again no no part of it was covid and part of it is we haven't been back to that particular house party in a while because we've just been doing other fun things plus they were two singles at a party so who knows what their relationship dynamic turned out to be right may not be together anymore but they were they were fun this is why like this is why i like the the more dtf kind of stuff well yeah like i don't need five days to get to some know someone or a month or extensive chat chit-chatting and stuff like that as long as there's a sexy vibe as long as you know how to follow directions as long as you're you know present enough to consent to have sex i'm down right because honestly you may not be around in six months even if you're married you are a boyfriend or girlfriend in lifestyle that's fine sure you're testing testing out the waters that's great let's have a fun experience i don't it you don't have to be married you don't have to be in a long-term relationship right and honestly and and this is all the more reason why when you go to an event and you see groups of people to go in and introduce yourself yeah to to bust into those because you may never see them again yeah because that group may not exist anymore or they stop going to that party um and if you don't make that connection and you don't exchange numbers and you don't or ho cards with your numbers on it then that's a lost opportunity and you may never get it back um there were oh man some of some of our really early like the first year that we were in the lifestyle we played with a bunch of couples that were in those kind of like group orgy group oral kind of situations never seen them again no never seen them again i still remember them like marianne and um oh i know we didn't we didn't have a name for him we only had a name for her because she was cute and he was just a penis oh sorry but that's true he was attractive i just never i don't know why i never gave him a name.
We just didn't. I was just focused on her. She was so cute. She was so cute. She was very cute. But we've had that situation before. There was a couple, we were at another play party. There was a couple from San Francisco that had kind of laid down next to us and we'd all kind of played parallel play. And we didn't even know their names till after. Till afterwards.
We introduced ourselves hey we're from san francisco ha ha ha it was so funny never seen him again no so like you you have to carpe diem right you have to seize the day yes and you know you're at podcast a palooza and you're in a pool with a bunch of people who are from all over the country or the world. Yeah. If you don't go up and introduce yourself to them, you won't have made that connection. We made great connections with Canadian people. Oh, I know. Who we're never going to run into in Sacramento. I mean, we might, but the odds are not in our favor.
No but we you know could have had sex with a canadian we could have we just we just didn't end up having it but we did have some some fun fireball with fun with uh some canadians we did oh my god that was hilarious i sniffed it so yeah as you could tell this party had a nice mix of open group exhibition play and you know private room play and you know i like the exhibition play but i i don't i will admit i don't get to watch ed as much because there's just too much going on you really have to get good at uh training your brain to take in a lot of detail yeah it's very distracting it's distracting it can be overwhelming but once you get used to seeing it you you know it's pretty hot um that more one-on-one couple you know interaction reduces that sensory input allows you some more focus and I as far as single couple interactions I kind of I kind of feel like we're leaning more towards that direction but um i i don't know i mean it's it used to be kind of a no-go zone so i'm i'm i like those more but i don't think i'm going to give up the the orgies and and i and i think that eight eight to six people is that sweet spot and and i prefer that number anything greater than that is just too much right and and as far as um progression for play when we go to the allures parties honestly we we're we don't even go to the playroom anymore yeah it it's it's mostly because we've got enough connections with people yeah just kind of end up back at one of the the hotel parties the hotel room parties yeah well do the pre-parties which we were never a part of before but now we know now we know more people right And so we pull them in they pull us in and then we usually do post room parties well what's ironic is we've kind of become one of those couples that goes to the party but doesn't play at the party right we play at somewhere else side party yes we used to complain about that yes other couples but but because we're like where did everybody go wait oh you always felt like someone else was having a good time somewhere else and you could never find out where right so we've we've kind of done that but the one caveat is we always try and drag at least two couples with us to those parties.
So, like, we still mingle. Oh, yeah. We still interact with other people. Yeah. And it's definitely not just with the people who we think we're going to play with later. Right. We definitely make our rounds. Yeah, we bring people with us. And I try to bring new people, too, because I want them to have that orgy experience because it's really fun, especially in a group that I think that they'd be comfortable in. Yeah, she's so benevolent. It's all about, like, making sure that they have a good experience. My take on it, of course, is we haven't had sex with them. They look like fun.
Let's bring them. Fresh meat. You will be the chum for the water like let's be honest we got into the lifestyle because of variety and like we get to have sex with other people so why not more other people i know so new is it's good it was hot familiar is hot. Familiar is hot, too. Oh, my goodness. So, don't be afraid of clicks. They're not malicious. They're just a group of people that enjoy one another's company and haven't seen each other in a while, possibly, like, a really long time. Be brave and break into those groups, introduce yourself, and be honest.
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