Want to send us a message? Many STIs and Trichomoniasis can be spread through oral sex. We talk about how to detect it, avoid it, and treat it. Plus, the emotional shame, anger, and resentment that can impact your quality of life.Join us at Podcast-A-Palooza! https://podcast-a-palooza.com/SUPSHOW NOTES:How common is Trichomoniasis?How did I get Trichomoniasis?Who can get Trichomoniasis?Symptoms of TrichomoniasisTreating TrichomoniasisDo I tell others I have Trichomoniasis?Emotional impact of TrichomoniasisPrevention for TrichomoniasisResources and Links (see below):RESOURCES https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/trichomoniasis/symptoms-causes/syc-20378609https://www.cdc.gov/std/trichomonas/stdfact-trichomoniasis.htm https://www.emedicinehealth.com/can_a_man_give_a_woman_trichomoniasis/article_em.htm https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/trichomoniasishttps://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment-guidelines/trichomoniasis.htm https://www.cdc.gov/std/healthcomm/stdfact-stdriskandoralsex.htm#anchor_1638992941914 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/286165338_The_impact_of_sexually_transmitted_diseases_on_quality_of_life_Application_of_three_validated_measuresCONDOMS https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a25922204/cosmopolitan-condom-power-to-decide-survey/FEMALE CONDOM Support the showWant More?👀 Watch on YouTube: YouTube ShowFull video versions and interactive live episodes!Bonus episodes, exclusive content, and 🌶️Extras: https://www.patreon.com/SwingerUniversity 🛳️🎉Looking for lifestyle events in your area? T4P is the go-to directory for clubs, parties, and resort events. Browse now at Ticket4Play.com Custom SU T-shirts and gear: Our Amazon StoreSwingerLinks.com - live schedule, special offers*, and our 🌶️links!Our Website - Leave us a message, articles, and sexy products3 Ways to get your question on our show:RECORD it on our website at: https://swingeruniversity.com/contact/EMAIL a recorded voice note to: [email protected]: (916) 538-0482 and leave a voicemail.* We get a commission if you decide to purchase through our links, at no cost to you.
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We have to talk about something we've been genuinely excited about for months, and our patrons actually got a preview of this already. Jamaica! Yes, we are going back, and actually, we have a great offer for you guys. Yeah, it's Swingcation. It's October 11th through the 18th at Hedonism 2. And if you don't know what Swingcation is, it's pretty easy. Swinger plus kink plus vacation. It's a hosted group with real structure, workshops, lectures, real conversations with experts who are passionate about bringing and bridging that gap between the swinger world and the kink world.
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And use our code at checkout. And you guys, if you have any questions about the event, the resort, or what to expect, just reach out. I mean, we're here for you. We're happy to help. So once again, TicketForPlay.com forward slash Swinky, the code SwingerU-VIP. We really want to see you there. Welcome to Swinger University, your horizontal enrichment program, offering you the naked facts about swinging. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe. Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe. Today we're talking about trichomoniasis. Tricho what? It is the most prevalent non-viral STI worldwide. Dun.
Affecting approximately 3.7 million persons in the United States, according to the CDC. Many people mistake this parasitic infection for bacterial vaginosis, or BV, due to the similarities. We also talk about the emotional impact of getting an STI, which sucks. Yes. We think trichomoniasis, a.k.a. trich, is common in the lifestyle, and we're going to tell you how to detect it, how to avoid it, and how to treat it. What's interesting is the 3.7 million affected individuals is just an estimate since the CDC does not track this as a reportable disease.
This topic may seem scary or disturbing, but our goal is to educate and provide answers to an STI you may be experiencing or may encounter. Trichomoniasis is caused by a parasite. Ugh, gross. And what the hell? Since only 30% of those infected develop any symptoms and symptoms come and go, it's a really crappy STI that's very hard to tell if you've got it or not yes it's more common in women than men yeah yes men can get it and typically have no symptoms great the incubation is about four to 28 days.
As with most STIs, it's a very wide range of less than a week to up to three weeks right or more almost all infections are kind of in that four days to a month kind of a period you never know exactly exactly so how does it happen well pre- pre-cum, semen, vaginal fluids get on or inside your penis, vulva, or vagina. So fluid transmission. It's as simple as that. Sex without a condom. Sharing sex toys. Touching infected fluids, then touching someone else, like hands.
Fingering somebody and then fingering somebody else and then fingering somebody else yay you've got trichomoniasis and you've got trichomoniasis and you too penis to vagina vagina to penis or vagina to vagina oral can occur, but it's very uncommon. I mean, the mouth is pretty good at handling and killing bacteria. So it's pretty hard in general to get diseases through the mouth. It is, even HIV. So what body part is affected? That for women, it's your vulva, your vagina, your cervix, your urethra. For men, it's their urethra. And in both sexes, it can be the mouth and throat, but it's rare.
It's a possibility. It has happened, but it's rare.
Much less common, yeah a possibility it has happened but it's rare much less common yeah yes what are the symptoms oh golly i'll i'll talk about the women because i'm sure you don't want to talk about that i love talking about women except for this us women oh my goodness we get the foul smelling vaginal discharge the genital itching painful urination inflammation lower abdominal pain painful intercourse symptoms that get worse during menstruation yeah so if you've if you've ever been in a playroom or on the dance floor at a swinger event and had a very strong fishy smell kind of walk past you, it's probably not BV.
We had actually thought it was BV, but doing the research for this episode, we figured out it's actually probably trichomoniasis. Yeah. The odor is kind of the giveaway for that. Right, right. Although, oh my gosh, I don't know. We have an update coming on BV. And while it does still have an odor, it's kind of hard to tell, honestly. It could go either way. Either way, yeah. But because BV affects every woman, but not everyone gets the foul smelling smell. Right. And you can have symptoms with BV that you don't even know about. Right. You don't have odor. You don't have smell.
You don't have itching. You don't have nothing, but you have it. Yeah.
Asymptomatic is the worst because you're transmitting it and sharing it with the community but you don't even know you have it right the key is you cannot transfer BV but with trichomoniasis you can because it's a bacteria correct so there are ways and situations and like I said we'll talk about this in the follow-up episode for bv there are ways and situations that you get into that will um how do you want to say offset your body and you can get bv right you're let's just go into it just a little bit i know i'm doing this you're rabbit holing i know i'm rabbit holing you're at an event you drank too much then you normally would it's going to throw off your ph you are using different lubes because there's different people in the room and you're using their lube that's going to throw off your ph you used a condom that maybe you're latex sensitive that's going to throw off your ph the condom itself may throw off your ph it's got spermicide it's going to throw off your ph you've been playing for two days you've been sitting in a hot tub for eight hours a day it's going to throw like all these things all these things that that you don't normally do is going to freak your body out and then yeah you probably get bv so it's not the fact that you're playing with someone.
It's the situation that you're in. Right. It's situational. Yes. Things you wouldn't normally be doing sexually that you normally do. And to clarify, trichomoniasis is a parasite and not a bacteria. Oh, sorry. Yes. Parasite. Yes. So still a microorganism. still swimming around inside of you. But parasites are not common in your normal flora and fauna. Correct, correct. But bacteria are. And the crazy thing with BV, not to dwell too much on it, is it's too much of the wrong kind of bacteria. Yes. They all, there's probably about four or five in your vagina that everyone, they all play together.
They're all nice. They're all nice teammates. Keep everything running. Yes. But when one of the teams gets out of order, that's the problem. They storm the field. Yep.
And then all hell breaks loose all right back on track treatment oh we're gonna talk about men oh okay sorry so gentlemen if you were if your junk is itching that's never a good sign if it is irritated inside your penis if you've got that that once again that burning sensation if you will uh while you're it says after urination but i could imagine it's probably happening while you're urinating as well or ejaculation so even having an orgasm is going to burn or be irritating that's not good and once again everyone's favorite discharge from the penis okay let's move along i don't you don't need to elaborate on that uh is there a faucet leaking i hear it oh my goodness rare cases of trichomoniasis can cause infections of the mouth and throat just like we said earlier and same thing with bb rare treatment cured with medicine seven to ten days so there's a an anti-parasitic that you're going to take so it's treated with antibiotics oh i get to do all the tinidazole i know these things because you know i'm a woman metle, and a few others.
Be sure all partners are treated at the same time. So if she's got it, you've got it too. Even if you're asymptomatic and vice versa. If he's burning, you may be asymptomatic. And so you treat everybody at the same time and abstain from having sex with other partners. and an untreated infection can last months or years so you you have to do something about it yeah they just keep growing and growing and just when you thought you were done round two card girl comes out into the Ring, ding. One in five people get infected again within three months of treatment. Eek.
So it's good to get checked three months later or sooner to ensure the infection is gone. So is this a reemergence? Is this you didn't get them all the first time?
Did they give us any clue the cdc help with this oh you know i'm gonna have to follow up on that i am not sure why they get reinfected well i guess that's good news is you have something to look forward to in the future after you get rid of it the first time the gift that keeps on it's just pure evil i mean as we said before infected individuals with those symptoms can pass it to others okay can we talk about october for a second oh my god yeah i've been waiting for this we were invited to be guest speakers for two engagements on a six-star crystal cruise ship with 310 lifestyle couples and it sails from montreal to boston during the peak foliage season i'm super excited and honestly i'm really nervous yeah it's kind of a version of like a swinger ted talk that we're gonna have to do oh my god i know and more importantly if you know the brand it's llv luxury lifestyle vacations you may have seen them and they're sexy playmakers with their fun red hats this ship the crystal symphony is classy butler service for every single room michelin rated restaurants full spa clothing optional sensual playrooms like everything theme nights and international dj so it's luxury and nudity oh man this is gonna be great the bottom line is we want you there with us it's 310 couples and like all their vacations they book up fast they really do their vacations are extremely popular so please come with us and in order to find it all you have to do is go to our swingerlinks.com and look for the LLV Sensual Voyage.
We hope you'll join us. Yeah, you can get it soon after sex with a new partner.
Like if you can get it within four days, if you maybe particularly susceptible yeah um there you go you have a weekend of fun and by thursday the hell is that it and and what's crappy too is that it increases the risk of getting other stis including cervical cancer yeah because it throws off your body's natural ability to fend off infections it's it's like your burn back a victim example right what happens with a burn victim you've damaged the system your body can't fight off infections because it's so busy trying to fight this infection off well you're yeah and your skin's gone your outer layer is gone which opens the door to other infections so you you just you've eliminated some of your natural immunity basically yeah so if you if you're sick your body isn't equipped to fight off more infections more issues and so you end up with more problems right and with the cervical cancer, there's a number of STIs that women get pretty regularly.
HPV is another one which puts you at a higher risk for cervical cancer. So your vaginal health, your sexual health is really important for a whole bunch of reasons. Exactly. And so, you know, the right thing to do is tell your partners that you had sex with um that you have trichomoniasis and that they'll need to be treated if you know if you've tested for for it and you know you have it if you have the phone numbers of those individuals right you're still in communication um you know it's smart to be able to tell them. But it's challenging because of that window, right? Four to 28 days.
I mean. What was the last partner you had sex with? Was it the one from four days ago or was it the one from a month ago? Right. You could have been to four parties since especially during Halloween and Thanksgiving or Christmas and New Year's and da.
I don i don't know what you're talking about i didn't a whole bunch of people between those time periods you went on a cruise you went okay maybe i did so good luck trying to contact all those individuals right the random people in the party on the ship that you you barely got their first names if you even remember their screen names after and you're gonna find out from them later right yeah so it's a thing and it's a risk and and then you know even if you do want to do the right thing you what if you don't have any symptoms and you have it you you can't even do the right thing because you don't know what you don't know right so that's that's why it's such a frustrating sti yeah and trichomoniasis may be the most important factor in contributing to bv and there's a scientific study we're going to attach it it's going to be in the notes we're going to have all kinds of cool sciencey things attached so if you want to read up more about it if you're suffering from this or you know just want to know more so that you're protected yeah definitely read through the notes i got up close and personal with my ob gyn and i just straight out said hey i'm a swinger can you test for this and this because it could be these other things because she knows i'm married and in a well thinks i'm in a monogamous relationship the assumption is the assumption is until you tell them differently and then they go oh well let's test you for this and this right so the more information that you give your health care provider the more they can help help you.
And honestly, of the three people that I've told, like OBGYNs, they don't judge. Nobody even blink. They don't even blink. They're trained to not. Of course, I secretly hope that they are swingers themselves because... Because why not? Well, we've had some pretty cute... I've had very cute doctors. And nurse practitioners and stuff. Yes. I know't be surprised. Well, and we know that nurses are in the lifestyle. So I'm like, why nurses and doctors? All right. All right. So, you know, emotional ramifications. You're going to have frustration, anxiety, fear of rejection.
You're going to feel a little isolated. you're going have frustration anxiety fear you have rejection um ice you're gonna feel a little isolated you're gonna feel guilty or embarrassed um shame and feelings of filth or contamination it's gross to have something change about your body you're like what the fuck is happening this is disgusting it's not normal i don't know what's going on. It's fucking freaky. Well, and it puts a huge bend in your normal daily activities because you're on a new regimen of medicine. You can't have sex with your partner. Right.
It impacts your quality of life with your love your partner you're one and only and the sensations like having a really crappy like um yeast infection like really bad yeah um i mean i hate it when i get a paper cut because it impacts my life right it it hurts me all day long i'm always bumping into it it stings with lemon juice and soap and hot sauce and all the other like can you imagine right yeah i don't even like how that feels so the longer it takes to heal um the more your quality of life is impacted so that's crappy i keep saying crappy but it's crappy and your mood and personality are compromised due to worry and fear of other serious complications because sometimes you don't always know what's going on and then you have to call and make a doctor's appointment it's just all very web md and you're ruling out okay it's not uh it's not bubonic plague and it's not Ebola.
Flesh eating disease and all the horrible things that you see. Of course, they show you all the nasty photos up front. Right. So I totally get it. So just try to not overstress, but yeah. There is hope. Be honest with your healthcare provider and get tested for these kinds of things so all right so how are we supposed to prevent getting this if we want to go play in a lifestyle like what the fuck i mean is this gonna stop us now from just doing no sex with others doing sex with others having sex having the sex having sex with others, having the sex, sexy time. So what can I do?
Condoms do prevent STIs. So if you're playing bareback, you're at a much higher risk for contracting something like trichomoniasis or any of the other things. Yeah. Yeah. So we can't stress the importance of condoms, or if you really want to go there, dental dams, and as an alternative to male condoms, penile prophylactics, you can use female condoms. Yeah, and we're going to provide a link to that. I looked at those. They're kind of cool. They're different. Interesting. Yeah, they're different. They're interesting. Yeah. It does put the woman kind of in control of what's going on.
And it covers the entire vulva area. So if you really want to protect that area and that's important to you, I say go for it.
And then you can still can still swing and feel comfortable right i don't think anyone's gonna freak out it's not like at all it's it's just an it having used them before it's kind of an unusual sensation it it's more apparent that there's a barrier than with a regular condom i see but i will say give them a try it's always fun to try new things with sex so yeah if you've never tried them i say go out and buy some and give them a shot see what you see what you think i was gonna order some but the website i went to there was this it was you had to fill out a form and it wasn't just free it was like you couldn't just like order them like off of amazon another source i i need to because anyway well when you when you get them i'll try them out with you honey okay just you know just for scientific purposes of course you can have some preventative measures by limiting your play to partners whom you feel you have a very genuine and honest relationship with that you can talk with them about their sexual health.
And you, you trust that, that, you know, maybe they don't play too far outside their circle. Um, that will, you know, help alleviate some of the fears and stress and concerns with stis right potentially people who are maybe less prolific with spreading the love or right maybe prefer less random connections with people and then you know the last thing is your nose is gonna you everything. If you smell an odor in the playroom, just stop. Don't take the risk. Even if you don't know what it is and it just smells funky, just leave, you know? So, yeah.
And the long and short of it, because it is fluid transferred, even with a condom, it's going to come up over the i've worn condoms for a while and you get the juice all over yeah so it's it's not like the condoms really preventing anything other than urethral contact but it's definitely it's all over your balls and the base of your shaft. So the fluid is there. Right. So if the female has it, then it's going to get all over you. And then if you don't wash up well, then you're just going to pass it to the next person, even though you have a condom on.
And there you go, pollinating the flowers with the worst possible thing. Yeah, I know.
But some of the risks, it is a risk you know and these are kind of those calculated risks that you have to weigh when you're getting into swinging yeah and the big thing too um another thing we we didn't have it in our notes but wash between partners definitely switch condoms like if you're not already changing condoms you're you're doing it wrong yeah i will have you wash between partners for sure yeah because i'm sensitive to to um just a lot of my ph is very sensitive and i'm sensitive to other bacterias and if i introduce too many random things at once i do tend to get a flare up so um yeah um, yeah, take a water break, take a little bird bath for the balls.
My goodness. So, you know, we found a way to navigate around this in the lifestyle and it's, it's worked. If you, like I said, if you play with that closer knit circle, then you'll most likely have better communication among the women who let you know if something's off and they can't play. If you're in a playroom, you don't have that sensitive nose to detect it, then rely on your partner or a swinger sister who has your back or your pussy's best interest. This also may mean you cannot throw all caution to the wind and you need to be a bit more aware of your surroundings. Who has it?
Whose hands touched what? And if the bedsheets are clean. All in all, you can still have a good time. You might just need a little strategy or direct communication from time to time. Be sure to check out all of our links on this topic for further information. Thanks for listening. The Swinger University needs your help. If you like our podcast, let the world know, or at least tell a fellow swinger or two. Not only will you be helping us, you'll be helping your fellow Swing Lifestylers. Please rate and review us on Apple, Google, and Amazon Podcasts.
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