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Don't make fun of me she's so funny i love your deep voice that's one i think that in your hands hi this is ed and this is phoebe today we're talking about what it's like in the life of a unicorn we've invited one of our favorite people single suzy as a guest single suzy q yes as a guest speaker to help shed some light on how she navigates the single life as a unicorn welcome single suzy q hello so how do you like being a unicorn And that's what I'm going to do. Welcome, single, Susie. It's you. Hello. So, how do you like being a unicorn? Pros and cons. What do you like? What don't you like?
I don't know. It's an evolving way of life. Yeah. Yeah. And what made you decide you wanted to be a unicorn well i'm single so i didn't have a choice well how about this that's true clearly you were interested in the lifestyle at some point in. And you were single. So how did that kind of fall out? Well, I guess we can start with how I got into the lifestyle. So about three years ago, I just started to date after a very long pause.
Very long and it was a very difficult process for me and I did it about a year vanilla vanilla dating and the websites dread and uh I met a guy on a vanilla website, um, that kind of told me about the lifestyle and it, it took a little while. And then I just kind of had this click and I said, huh, I think I'm going to try it. And so that was two years ago. And I just kind of didn't know what I was doing or what I wanted, what I liked, what I didn't like. So I just first hooked up with a couple single dudes. I'm like, yeah, well, whatever. And then I did try to be with a couple. Well, I did.
It was more for him. It was, you know, she had always got the third and now she was allowing him.
So I'm like, OK, I can do that do that and it was fun and then i went to the allure's party where i met you guys yeah and uh i met a veteran in the lifestyle Who we kind of, i don't know what you call it date yeah play partner whatever long-term play partner long-term yeah for uh over a year so i've actually done the single and then um as a couple right and so now i'm single again and i can say i i did a lot of things uh as a couple which i really enjoyed so now that i'm single again i've been a lot more um brave expanding nice and Thank you.
So now that I'm single again, I've been a lot more brave, expanding, and enjoying it a lot. Very cool. Oh, interesting. Yes. Interesting. You're kind of doing the whole experimental things, things you didn't try before, and you're like, you know what? Why a great opportunity it is and i can say you know the longer you've been in lifestyle the more comfortable you are like when i first met you guys i was like closed door i don't want to do that and now i'm me. Here I am. Let's try two dicks in my mouth. You know, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, why not? It's ever done before. Right. Oh, my gosh.
So how is it in the lifestyle not being bisexual how does that work as a unicorn yeah it makes very challenging um especially if you want to play with couples but you don't want to play with the missesus right right so you know it it's real challenging yeah but you found a niche with some of the couples yeah i've found a few um one there is a small percentage and i've heard this before, of the wives that like to watch their husbands get fucked. So, or fuck me, I guess. Whatever. Right. Yeah. And it's fun. Do they just watch or do they join in? No, they just watch. They just watch. Yes. Wow.
wow wait so isn't that like the opposite of a cuck wife yeah that's that's one of the ways it's described yeah oh i mean i've talked with a lot of couples the wives and a lot of them say that it's very hot they may have never allowed him to do it but they always say right that is so hot wow yeah interesting and it can i mean the the whole cuckold thing is a very specific kink true and some people there's rules for it yeah there's rules it's it's very much like bdsm and and whatnot and that there's rules of engagement so to speak but there are also couples who are just very um compersive if that's a word they just enjoy watching their partner have fun so you get live porn and it's your husband it's kind of like yeah your husband starring in your own private porn right there for you yeah that's pretty cool i mean it's challenging because a lot of times if i go to a party alone and there's no single male I'm interested in, most of the time I don't get to play.
Or my other thing is large groups. So I won't be the third wheel, but the fifth, the seventh, the ninth, I can do that because someone's busy. Exactly. There's always a spare stunt cock around. Right? Spare stunt cock. I know. Yeah, that is interesting without the dynamic.
I mean, we run into the same thing as a couple where we find one of the partners attractive or more attractive than the other and it does it presents some interesting right challenges but in a group dynamic you can there's something for everybody yeah you get to play musical chairs and sit on whatever you want It's bag of skittles yeah i know okay so there is the perception that unicorns are bisexual and we know that there are some that are not we've interviewed two two so far yeah so is there also a perception that you're just gonna you know fuck anyone because you're the unicorn in the room yeah okay can we talk about october for a second oh my god I've been waiting for this.
We were invited to be guest speakers for two engagements on a six-star crystal cruise ship with 310 lifestyle couples. And it sails from Montreal to Boston during the peak foliage season. I'm super excited. And honestly, I'm really nervous. Yeah yeah it's kind of a version of like a swinger ted talk that we're gonna have to do oh my god i know and more importantly if you know the brand it's llv luxury lifestyle vacations you may have seen them and they're sexy playmakers with their fun red hats. This ship, the Crystal Symphony, is classy.
Butler service for every single room, Michelin rated restaurants, full spa, clothing optional, sensual playrooms, like everything, theme nights and international DJ. So it's luxury and nudity. Oh, man, this is going to be great. The bottom line is we want you there with us. It's 310 couples. And like all their vacations, they book up fast. They really do. Their vacations are extremely popular. So please come with us.
And in order to find it, all you have to do is go to our swingerlinks.com and look for the llv sensual voyage we hope you'll join us seems to be the thing right just an assumption that i'm just sitting by my phone waiting for someone to contact me and I'm just jumping and drive right there. Right. Yeah. Like I don't have a life, you know. Right. Beck and call. Yeah. Yeah. Or standards. Oh, right. Okay.
Just because you're single and you're a woman that means you're just gonna be available for anybody right yeah yeah interesting and so do you also find people will invite you to their party because they need to have a single woman there or they have other expectations do you feel like it's conditional or are people pretty cool about it i think it's a hit and miss i i don't know if i get invited because the husband wants me to go like hey let's, let's invite her. Like maybe, oh, we'll convert her. Let's invite her. We can get her to do it. Right. Which may happen. I can't say never. Right.
But, you know. You are experimenting. I am. You never know. I never know. Let's see. see safety so we started to touch on it a little bit in the beginning you're experimenting more now how on your own since you're not a cup with a couple you're you're kind of long your long-term single play partner. So how do you navigate that? What kind of things do you have in place to ensure your safety? Well, I'd like to say I predominantly only meet people at parties.
There's a few occasions uh that i've probably talked to the person or text the person for some time before i invite them over or maybe their professional status makes it a little more trusting. Right, right. Just saying. Yeah. But other than that, the parties is easier for me. I never got used to the online. Yeah.
It's just like vanilla dating on plenty of fish or something.'s just right right i have tried tinder because the male single male you know pool is very limited so well there's no shortage of them on tinder new and there's a lot of swingers on tinder yeah we've heard that we should check that out again we checked it out a couple years ago three years ago we tried bumble yes we tried bumble temporarily and then i had a co-worker who was also on bumble and i very quickly deleted my profile Ha, was going to go. That was nerve-wracking. It was like, oh, shit. Delete. Ouch.
But you also have a strategy for safety, too, for when you're at at parties like don't you have like a wingman or a wingwoman or something yeah i try to go to parties with people either you know i do have a small pool of partners that if available they come to the party um not very often i have um i have a sister corn oh you know who you are girl sister corn so we met pretty early on we both joined at the same time and we live close together so we kind of text each other and like oh we need help right so we'll we'll go to parties together watch each other's back you know um and then uh i think because i go so many parties and know so many people i always get escorted back to my car by someone that's nice and that's not just because the people at the party but you know we're dressed like sluts and walking in neighborhoods you know other than that i think usually at a party if i start getting harass by single males, I can go to people I know and just start talking.
Or they'll notice it before me and be like, come here. You need to leave. Nice. There you go. Nice. Love it.
I love how this community looks out for everybody they're so nice it's it's the nicest group of people ever we hear it over and over again and i love telling the story about the bliss cruise how there's plenty of people on there that don't swing at all but they keep coming back because they just love the people and the atmosphere they just have a great time they're just like the nicest people ever they'll never be swingers they just love to hang out with us yeah it's it's so cool i i agree which why i like the parties too because the lifestyle is my social outlet i mean i don't Have a great day.
I agree, which is why I like the parties, too, because the lifestyle is my social outlet. I mean, I don't have a social life otherwise. Right, right. I mean, maybe vanilla family or whatnot. Yeah. But to be able to, you know, dress sexy and be in the same environment with people and be yourself. Right.
And there's amazing people in the lifestyle yeah we've we've got a lot of really good swinger friends so yeah we can relate so nothing nothing like crazy like being stalked or followed or anything weird and you all pretty lucky um well i mean i've left quite a few parties because you know the quantity of single males is just overwhelming overwhelming and they are aggressive yeah they can be right um i unfortunately am a very friendly person so i've been told that that doesn't help things because i i'll talk to anyone but i guess that means i want to fuck them i i don't know that's what i've been told see i know and that's this happened to me when i was single and dating it's a single thing it is right yeah and i'm it wasn't swinger related at all it was the fact that i was a woman i was single and i was genuinely listening i'm being a good listener i'm giving you my full attention and all of a sudden you think right we need to go home and fuck right and i'm like no no i'm just yeah just doing what everybody should be doing the problem is men i'll just when a woman approaches a man They start thinking with their dick it's that simple so they make eye contact i mean that's the first thing they're thinking yeah i don't know because i think in couples the women are more aggressive than men well and i think yeah and i'm specifically referring to single men right when i was single um in that perspective so to speak not that i was an aggressive male but um yeah with couples i think it changes the dynamic for the interaction and you know Two people have to agree there's some conversation that has to happen and so it's not just a one for one assumption there's there's less assumptions made there's lots of hope but right what percentage do you think uh couples are more aggressive like the woman as, as you say?
Would you say, like, she's more aggressive 60% of the time? Or do you think it's really half and half? Honestly, I think it's because the women drink more. Oh. To loosen up.
I don't drink, so I can see more stuff going on yeah but yeah the women are a lot more relaxed and yeah you know and i could see that we've noticed before too that as the night progresses women tend to be less um seeking consent before they start grabbing and fondling and it's it's almost like this very poorly unwritten rule that oh it's because she's a woman it's okay right right and that's the assumption i'm a unicorn i must be bi oh two wrongs do not make a right but it's okay i'll go with it i don't have a problem expressing that yeah right half of the time it doesn't matter they still continue oh god but it's okay that's just the martinis talking there oh my gosh so any long distance travel that you've done as a unicorn like how far have you traveled like for a date yeah across the states um well i've definitely been taking advantage of traveling but i have gone to a few out-of-town event well in one out-of-town event and while i was there i make a point to try and do the hot date or meet up with other yeah and you know that's fun yeah it's a little hard yeah well vegas isn't that hard really we did not have good luck in vegas worst luck in vegas oh yeah there were so many swingers or maybe what we've heard two other couples have a hard time also three other couples maybe you have to be single specifically to get laid yeah i mean we went to see a couple shows too but right we had a plan the clubs were the right I don't know there's a lot of clubs and bars that are swinger friendly Red Rooster, Green Door we looked at those we didn't end up going to those because the reviews were sketchy at the time of course we haven't seen it for ourselves so who to know i just posted like a hot date thing you know i'll be in vegas yep and i got a lot of responses oh now we went yeah we did the same but we also went several years ago.
So it's possible things have changed. Picked up a little bit. We did go on one date when we were in Vegas. We just didn't like the date. But that's a whole other thing. And we did. Oh, that's right. We did have this long text exchange with this really hot couple, and we actually met them at the pool, and we thought things were going great. So close. And we even had a dinner date, get-together thing, and then they ghosted us, and then we saw them at the same show as we were walking out. They were walking out. They were with a different couple. Hey, isn't that so-and-so?
They were talking with another couple. They were like, hi. So we walked up and made it really uncomfortable for him. Hi, how's it going? Yes. Awkward. That was a miss, though, because that would have been. We felt terrible. Yeah, that yeah that would have been oh and then we go back to the hotel we do we tootle around town we stay a plate we go back to the hotel where you're gonna go to bed and it was like i don't know midnight one 10 or 11 it was late and we get this text hey we're in our room i I'm in my pajamas. My makeup is off. It's not like we were in the same hotel.
Because if they were in the same hotel, we would have gone up or down a couple floors. Probably. No doubt. Yeah. But still, I was like. They were in a completely different hotel. Hell no. Like two blocks away on the strip. So there was no way.
I think you've got to kind of plan ahead when you're going to go out of town yeah like oh yeah ahead of time yeah get some bites yeah yeah we we tried we tried we just didn't have good luck we'll have to try again we did try in another episode we are going to talk about that yes the swinging in the rockies yes traveling and swinging we'll get into that hopefully i'll have more to add so parties is the easiest for meeting people online Online dating sucks, as we all know. And dating as a single within the swinger community. How's that? Non-existent.
I mean, if you think about it, why are most single males in the community? Because they don't want commitment relationships. Yeah that's true yeah yeah not that that's necessary but yeah probably not an option yeah all right so we've talked about some parties we've talked about about meeting people. Let's talk about meeting single males. How, how does that work? Like, what are you looking for? Here's why we sail on Virgin. It's adults only. No kids screaming at breakfast. No family buffet lines. Just champagne at noon. Late night pool parties and people who actually want to be there. The vibe?
Think boutique hotel that happens to float. Tattoo parlors, drag brunch, restaurants you'd actually pay for on land. Plus, when you're looking to connect with other couples who know how to have fun, let's just say Virgin attracts a very specific type of adventurist. No wonder Breadcruisers here, just your people.
There's a lot to that one um i guess it depends on if it's in person versus um a text message or whatnot um obviously to me physical attraction is number one so it's nothing like when you ask for a pic and they send the dick oh yeah wow that's a nice dick but what does your face look like right right number one um i i also kind of stay clear of the real young inexperienced ones because I guess that level of confidentiality is still oh yeah i don't know if they're gonna run and tell all their friends you know right like if they've been in the community a while i kind of look for that um they have a little more to lose if they have a solid professional career family life things like that so they hold that security and honor it if they're established in the community too then they have a reputation as a single male that's at risk exactly so then you look at their certs right right certs really like okay well that makes sense for real i do get a lot of people they're like oh i just joined and i wanted to go to a party with you and i'm like call me in six months when you've got a few parties into your belt yeah like i can get you in but not with me yeah um and especially in person it's how they approach you Thank you.
but not with me yeah um and especially in person it's how they approach you um you know i remember i went to this one and this single dude stood out like a sore thumb you could just see the level of awkwardness he had in and not confident and you know hands in pocket looking down and just like walking up to someone and the little nudge and i'm like oh no oh poor guy poor puppy so obviously you want the confidence and sure be yourself and yep because confidence is sexy what was this one time i i said i was waiting in line at the bathroom and this single dude i thought he was a married dude just because the way he looked right but and i'm not obviously friendly hi whatever could i touch your butt that was the first thing he asked you oh for crying out I'll see you next time.
Obviously, friendly. Hi, whatever. Can I touch your butt? That was the first thing he asked you? Oh, for crying out loud. I don't think that's a good pickup line. No. Okay, see you later. Oh, my God. I'm leaving now. Wow. Maybe if you were hot, yeah, but, you know know the whole comb over and the bare belly and no right there's so many other ways to smoothly transition to can i touch your ass like start with a compliment that's a great ass I don't know.
can i touch your ass like start with a compliment that's a great ass right and she goes yeah i know i know skills you gotta have some game folks you can definitely spot the insecure nervous right and i feel sorry for him. It's a little harder, but you know, I wonder how many single males have that problem. And that's the reason they're still single males because they don't have confidence. They're not in the dating world. They're not, they're not getting laid normally because they're struggling. And so they figure, yeah, this is like shooting fish in a barrel. Right.
But they don't realize that this is not a hooker convention. Right. You can't, you know, throw a $100 bill down. I know. No disparagement to hookers, by the way. Thank you. Not that I'm, you know, had that as a profession. No. Although I did try out. Stripper once. As a stripper. Way back in the day, back in San Diego. Ba-da-da-da-dum. Dun.
I got paid for it too well for trying out yeah i think they paid me like 20 bucks because you have to get up there on stage and dance and try out it was fun i wore a little leopard bikini top came off but you can't take your bottoms off in california back then i don't know what it is now the bar yeah depends on the bar anyway well there you go a little story about me didn't know what else about guys anything else um oh flakes oh yeah we were talking about them earlier that is the worst and it happens to me all the time it's so frustrating i don't i don't know if they're afraid or what but you know have a little respect yeah you know if you're not gonna make it if you don't want to right something right so sounds like some of the similar crap that you deal with as you know single person in the dating world and then text like weeks later like nothing happened hey what's up yeah what yeah the random booty call yeah been there yeah yeah i think that all kind of boils down to those life skills dating skills and engaging with other people you know just having courtesy and respect that you know you follow through or you at least apologize for not being able to follow through right right yeah yeah it's real hard to find um like i didn't realize until it was gone someone that that you have a good connection with, like playing.
Like even if I want a partner to do partner things, you've got to have that good chemistry together where you can portray it out with the other couple. It's really hard to find that. Yeah. So that's part of finding the partner.
the partner it's like yeah you're fun one-on-one but i wouldn't share you yeah yeah and i don't want my friends to try that bring your a-game right all right we've talked about single males and couples all right have you have you had any just standout experiences or i don't know brushes with fame if you will good question um like i said vegas has a lot of swingers so i i did put out a little hot date i'm gonna be in vegas got quite a few bites oh i did get a retired football star respond interesting Right, but was not my type because he's probably retired for like 40 years but um i got a bite from a retired porn star recently retired porn star and i thought so you know safety i did some chatting video chatting exchange some information on each other's website all that good stuff and fun and i i was at an event and i left the event to go fuck a porn star.
Oh. Oh, my God. It was a little intimidating. I was a little nervous. Yeah, it's like a celebrity, right? Oh, sure. God, he's fucked all these professionals. Right? But I guess it was okay because he invited me over the next day. Oh. There you go. And it was my birthday weekend, so I was excited that I could check that. It's just a bad thing.
next day so there you go and it was it was my birthday weekend so i was excited that i checked that off my bucket list yeah you get to blow out that candle yeah wow and of course i went back to the party and bragged to everyone yes that's fun very cool cool. That's awesome. That's freaking awesome. Okay. So, Ed, when we go back to Vegas, we always said we are never going by ourselves. We have to bring the party with us. Yes. She's coming with us. I think there's some events coming up will definitely help, too.
Because I swear you have to bring the party to vegas i i tend to bring a party yeah because who's who's there everybody's there all the bachelorettes are there all the bachelors are there all the birthday party people everybody is there in a group so i'm i we've got to bring a party with us yeah it's the backup plan just in case Thank you.
is there in a group so I'm we've got to bring a party with us it's the backup plan just in case I'm game alright can't leave it to the odds especially in Vegas and clearly our odds suck so you cashed in big time so we're taking you you're going to be lucky charm. I actually have a date next week when someone visiting from Vegas. Wow. Very cool. There we go. Wow. There we go. All right. Yeah. We'll have to see. I don't know what happened with us. Better luck next time, right?
That's what you always say when you go to vegas i don't know all right we'd love to thank you our single suzy q for joining us today to speak with us and we loved having you as our guest thank you yeah being here yeah i'll have to have you back after our vegas adventure to discuss that that would be fun i'm already starting to plan it I love being here. Yeah. I'll have to have you back after our Vegas adventure to discuss that. That would be fun. I'm already starting to plan it. Yeah. That could be fun. Thanks, everyone, for listening.
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