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We have to talk about something we've been genuinely excited about for months, and our patrons actually got a preview of this already. Jamaica! Yes, we are going back, and actually, we have a great offer for you guys. Yeah, it's Swingcation. It's October 11th through the 18th at Hedonism 2. And if you don't know what Swingcation is, it's pretty easy. Swinger plus kink plus vacation. It's a hosted group with real structure, workshops, lectures, real conversations with experts who are passionate about bringing and bridging that gap between the swinger world and the kink world.
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And use our code at checkout. And you guys, if you have any questions about the event, the resort, or what to expect, just reach out. I mean, we're here for you. We're happy to help. So once again, ticketforplay.com forward slash Swinky, the code SwingerU-VIP. We really want to see you there. You're listening to Swinger University with Ed and Phoebe offering you the naked facts about swinging. Here are your hosts, Ed and Phoebe. Hi, this is Ed. And this is Phoebe. Today we're talking about our first swinging event after vaccinations.
Allures, our local swinger entertainment and travel company, put on their first event this year and it was magnificent.
The theme was Everything Glows and it was great seeing new and familiar faces it was great just being at an event it was great just being out there could have been one other couple there and it would have been great i know hi hi hello hi i can touch you i can hug you i can kiss you i know it was awesome i see people yeah it was good to be out it was so great to just celebrate that normalcy that we used to have i mean not just going to the grocery store type of normalcy but back back in swinging normalcy. Swing or normal. Yes. Oh, my goodness.
I was a little worried that, you know, I might be out of practice or nervous, but, you know, I wasn't. Although. We kind of were. We had a slow start. Yeah. We had a slow start. there admittedly wasn't as many people as i like because i require lots of a lot of a lot of people energy to keep me going yeah just that hustle the hustle yeah because then you're just because i i don't like to sit still so i'm constantly moving. And we went early, too. Like, we were there at, like, the first... We did. Like, as soon as the doors opened, like, we were there. And where was everybody?
Well, but that's typical. But! I know. It's the event right after... I know. We expected people to be as excited as we were.
Lining the doors busting down the door just to get in to spend maximum time there no nine more people came 10 even more and it was pretty much full swing by like 11 or so it's painful um wow now we know what to do for the next one we'll just have the pre-party in our room yeah pre-party in our room we went easy this time we were just like no frills super low-key we're just like we're gonna go we're gonna see what happens get the room we just got the room anyway expectations open yeah yeah it was awesome open-minded but it did eventually pick up oh yeah and you know we browsed through the playroom a little bit in the earlier part of the evening and there was maybe a couple in there or two the dungeon was busy the dungeon was busy a lot of people in there a lot of a lot of socializing going on in there which was a little odd but it was kind of cool people found the quiet space to connect and there were some teaching moments going on so that was kind of fun people are just starting with this you know getting into it right spank me 101 yes it looked like spank me 101 in the corner over there.
Yeah. Mm-hmm. And the playroom did eventually pick up. Oh, yes. And there was kind of a regular rotation in there, so that was nice to be able to see. Every bed was occupied. Yeah. There wasn't as many people in the viewing area, though. It's usually packed.
I was a little a little surprised yeah so i think they were either dancing or they were just on the bed but just forget watching we need to just get busy with get busy i know so that was fun that was fun we we saw some of our friends there we did hung out with them talked to them we saw people we hadn't seen in oh my gosh like a year and a half two years um the last big kind of social hotel get together wasn't a takeover like this was just a a room party which was insane that couple was there yeah so it was fun it was great it was really really nice to really get um reconnected with everybody and we had a lot of positive experiences and we saw some negative well we we will talk about some of the positives and some of the negatives let's just say that so what was what was interesting is we'd had a number of couples reach out to us beforehand and we were discovering that couples were being a little more forward yes in terms of approaching other couples at least us it was nice it was refreshing people were like selling and like reeling they were like throwing out the hook and we're just trying to so yes people were fishing people were fishing actively and for us which was cool because we had a number of people recruiting us so that was cool and i tried to point them out early on and you know introduce us and kind of keep the social butterfly thing going on and there was one couple who reached out to us this is this goes back to our photography episode in terms of taking good photographs the only pictures we had of this woman she was she was beautiful but we only knew what she looked like from like the neck down to the toes yeah to the knees or something so i had a hard time identifying her and we said we said We'll be right back.
the toes yeah to the knees or something so i had a hard time identifying her and we said we said we'd love to meet and uh and and ed says well we'll just have to look out for your boobs when we see you and you'd think she'd go oh ha ha ha here's my face but no thankfully she sent us her partner's uh profile and his face was visible so i had somebody who i could recognize which was great they walked by a couple times was that the couple that walked by in the playroom and that was the couple who walked by in the playroom and finally i, I was like, okay, nothing's happened up to this point.
We've wandered around. We danced a little bit. If we don't make something happen soon, nothing's going to happen. And so they happened to, like, walk right in front of us in the playroom while we were sitting there waiting for something to happen. And I said, stood up, introduced myself. Yeah.
waiting for something to happen and i said stood up introduced myself yeah and that kicked off a conversation with them which led to an invitation oh yeah to an after party oh yeah in fact i think that napkin with the room number and the phone number and the names i think that was especially for us like i don't think there was more napkins in that pocket i think it was one of the flyers from their room so that was the only one that of that flyer type that came in the packet yes the gift yes but okay continue because i have more to say oh no go ahead oh are we gonna move to the after party party because we're kind of moving there because not much happened after that no we pretty much we pretty much just left yeah all right so we went to the room to freshen up they gave us their invitation we confirmed yes we will definitely be there we just needed to head up to the room first to freshen up yeah so yeah walk back towards the room the long trek right around right and around and around to get to the the rooms they were on the they were on a lower floor we went up a flight of stairs up to our floor yeah yeah freshened up yep come down let's get to the good stuff let's get to the good stuff we had to get the go bag oh yeah yeah so we got the go bag yeah all right and then we get there we're down we're down below we get to the door right the door was decorated right with all these pineapple lights and a little placard that says knock come on in so as the night progressed other people joined our private party which was amazing yeah so we we were in, a foursome.
Yeah. And then all of a sudden. Uh-huh. Hello. Two more people come in. Yeah. They're like, oh. And we knew those, that first couple that came in. Yes. We'd met them earlier. We knew one of them really well. Yeah. The single, the unicorn. Yes.
Which, who, by the way, we will probably have in an episode coming up soon where we'll be interviewing her she's got all kinds of great stories how to be a unicorn how to be successful at it she's been doing it for two and a half almost three years now yeah that girl is busy and hosting parties oh yeah doing house parties she does a really good job at that too yeah good stories for that anyway so okay so first knock so right but you know but wait before i know i'm getting a little ahead i'm so excited getting a little ahead of myself the first couple that invited us in he was so prepared in fact before we got there he was selling us he gives us that invitation he's like i've got food in the room i've got drinks i've got anything you want i've got this kind of alcohol that since he said whiskey and tequila i was like okay i'm there i think he even said gin i'm like oh my god now we have to go so he had drinks he had the good stuff he had you know busy waters he had crackers he had all kinds of fun stuff this and that and you know he knew he was hosting he laid it out there that's amazing all right so he sold me and and he was very cute and so that was that helped too and so then so yeah we get to the room and we're having a little bit of snack having a little bit of drink and then the knock on the door comes and yes the point at which the knock had come uh there had been the fire alarm oh my god we forgot about that part oh my god the fire someone pulled the fire alarm someone was mad and we're like is it really a fire is it not a fire okay so this is the negative right so so far we've got some positives so in the negative is some stupid swinger got all butthurt we think yeah well that was the story that's the story they got kicked out and on their way out they pulled the fire alarm and tried to ruin it for everybody so here we are going um do we really exit or do we not is this fake or is it real because i don't want to assume that it's fake and die tonight but i want to take it serious but i really want to have a good time so what am i doing and and the reason why this was really frustrating was we had just come back in the room and decided to start stripping off clothes and that's when the fire alarm went off so it was like literally we're about to just start at it oh yeah And then the fire alarm.
Yeah. And it did this three times. It was so annoying. They eventually shut the dang thing off, and it was all a false alarm. It wasn't a real thing. So we're now naked. We're starting to explore each other at this point. Yeah, but before I was naked, I was kissing.
my guy was a really good kisser yeah you guys got naked before us we were just making out for she didn't have much on to start with oh that's true we don't usually yeah and i had a lot on so i had to get a head start but by the time we got done making out i looked over at you and her and you guys were i call naked and i yeah remember i said oh i guess we're behind so we've now got three couples in the room right various states of undress and nakedness wait fun stuff is going on one two no there's four couples not yet oh i. Not yet. Oh, I'm ahead of myself. Not yet. Deezer. Okay.
We're in the middle of everything. Uh-huh. And some swapping, some moving around, different beds. And then, of course, another knock on the door. Yes. Orgy. This is great. Bigger orgy. We're up to eight people. And this was a couple who we hadn't met before. Right. So this was like more new people. And they're close to us. Yeah, they're in the same city. They're in Sacramento with us. So we were like, ooh.
We'll see if we connect with them again decide to say hi back okay can we talk about october for a second oh my god yeah i've been waiting for this we were invited to be guest speakers for two engagements on a six-star crystal cruise ship with 310 lifestyle couples and it sails from montreal to boston during the peak foliage season i'm super excited and honestly i'm really nervous yeah it's kind of a version of like a swinger ted talk that we're gonna have to do oh my god i know and more importantly if you know the brand it's llv luxury lifestyle vacations you may have seen them and they're sexy playmakers with their fun red hats this ship the crystal symphony is classy butler service for every single room michelin rated restaurants full spa clothing optional Thank you.
Crystal Symphony is classy. Butler service for every single room, Michelin rated restaurants, full spa, clothing optional, sensual playrooms, like everything, theme nights and international DJ. So it's luxury and nudity. Oh man, this is going to be great. The bottom line is we want you there with us. It's 310 couples. And like all their vacations, they book up fast. They really do. Their vacations are extremely popular. So please come with us.
And in order to find it, all you have to do is go to our swingerlinks.com and look for the llv sensual voyage we hope you'll join us but it was from there out it was just smooth and seamless and so the rough start of the evening very slowly built to a better evening and then just shot straight up oh yeah and this is why and this happens almost every single time this is why you don't want to drink too much you don't want to get too high and you want to take a nap and have your red bull or your Rockstar because all this shit happens after 1 a.m. And you have to be awake.
You got to train for this. You do have to train for it. We weren't expecting anything to happen. And then it all happened. Right? You got to be ready. When they say go, go. That's right. Be prepared. It's the Boy Scout motto. Yes. So overall, that after party was a fantastic experience. We had a great time. Everybody was really respectful. I know. Sexy. I know. We had a lot of fun.
It was watching, some watching some playing some firsts an easy flow that no one even remembered to ask permission and the only time we we thought about it was when one woman she was very good she was very good and i was like oh you know what i i didn't ask anybody but it was almost there's just this flow so no one you didn't pick up on anyone looking uncomfortable or having deer in the headlights kind of you know face right there was none of that everyone was just so into it and no one was drunk and no one was high so everyone no was alert yeah so no one yeah they're taking no awkward moments at all like it was just yeah it was just perfect it was just smooth it was smooth great so that was great great end to a great evening a little dancing and a lot of after the party dancing yeah it was it was so nice and then so so wait we're wrapping up we're wrapping up we're saying good night couples are leaving and we leave their door yes And we're heading up to our floor.
Right. And we get to our room and there's another party going on a few doors down from us. And we had connected with the couple in that room several times that night and were wanting to, you know, play or engage.
And we had tried to find them for a while while but they were flirting with another couple as well so we're at the door and the guy oh my god he he was the best he talk about salesman he was really good salesman super flirty oh super flirty and just very persistent and not in a bad way but very persistent yeah and so he basically said you know come on over right and you could tell there's more more people in the room and we're like all right we'll be down we'll be over we'll freshen up because we need we thought about it we just had sex with people so we had to freshen up again we hesitated for like five five seconds ten and looked at each other and we're like yeah i'm not tired i could go again yeah we could do it again we could do that we could do some more so so we were gonna change into the more sexy clothes and i was like no it's gonna take more time and i don't i just don't want to stay in the room any longer than i need to because it is late in the early morning and let's just get over there yeah it was late yeah really late so we walk over and they had a room with a balcony which opened out into this beautiful courtyard garden area i hear all this noise and talking we walk in the slide air is open and everyone's most everyone is out on the balcony naked right which was fabulous to see i mean it was it was great it was awesome and mind you this particular hotel and this wing of the hotel doesn't do a very good job with their maintenance so it's habitually um the ac is habitually broken right so pretty much everyone in that wing had no ac yeah this is the cool place was outside yeah on the balcony so i get that the door was open.
I get that they're out there. But you can't be naked out there. Because the rest of the hotel doesn't need to know that we're all swingers because the vanillas get upset when they see boobies in public. Right.
And there happened to be some religious vanilla conference going on at the same time yeah there was some western christian something something conference going on yeah and so you know as a swinger you have to be i mean i get that you feel a sense of freedom you're like way you know but there's a other side where you need to go hmm am i going to jeopardize the rest of the fun for everybody else tonight and in the future? Therefore, I'm not even going to have a place to go either. So not only am I going to fuck it up for myself, I'm going to fuck it up for everybody else. Right. Yeah. No.
So I take that seriously. So I walk out there and I. And there aren't that many places in the area anymore to do parties. Right. So this is like the best thing in town. So I'm like, don't fuck it up for everybody else, please. Right. So it's kind of what I said. You need to come in off the balcony. And I mean, I really wanted to join them. But one, I didn't want to get kicked out of the hotel, too. I didn't want to get kicked out of the group.
Three, I want to, you know, i didn't want to get kicked out of the hotel too i didn't want to get kicked out of the group three i want to you know i didn't want to be any part of yeah ruining it for everybody else's fun right so i'm trying to get them in and it was clear after the third request that they were so far drunk oh yeah there was no reasoning with And I'm'm like the more i talk the more it's going to accelerate and they're going to get louder which is going to get worse which is going to attract more attention so i'm like i just need to back off and hope for the best now those people that were drunk were not the people in the room well they're guests yes these were not the people we were trying to connect with right and so so then that was a turnoff because one they're just being belligerent and stupid and i'm like well that's not sexy no and i'm like okay so so i just spun on my heels and i'm like all right you guys good night you know good luck yep They didn't care.
They're like, we've been out here for three hours. We haven't got caught yet. Well, call it lucky. Yeah, count your blessings. And I'm sorry you feel that way. Anyway. So in. So we left. So we left. And that was the end of our evening.
Right right but then they were texting us the next day and they wanted to yeah get back together with us and we have done that before after these parties because we live close enough to the hotel where you know we've we've gone back for the second day for round two right right i was so tired the next day i felt hung weirdly kind of hung over even though i wasn't drinking we were up late it's just that lack of sleep again so you know when you add drinking or drugs to your fatigue and all the endorphins and all the excitement you feel kind of wonky the next day and we felt wonky and we didn't drink and we didn't do drugs and we were like it was weird it was weird but it was it was a great weird it was the best kind of tired oh yeah the best your eyes were like all half closed most of the day they're bloodshot you look so sleepy i took a nap you did not i don't know how you don't do that uh you know rest is for when you die when they say something like that yeah so then one of the other negative things that we i'm sorry we're ending on negative but we'll wrap it up with some positive we saw some really great friends who were also very wasted, and we were so excited.
Well, one of the friends, the partners, was wasted. And she kind of has a history of that. But it's a bummer because we hadn't seen him in forever, and we really wanted to connect and catch up. And, you know, so you try to focus on the husband because he's a sober one. And then the wife butts in with nonsensical comments and you're like, I'm just trying to catch up. And then eventually you just give up and you're like, OK, see you guys later. It was so sad. It's hard because you do want to have a conversation, right? Like these these are your friends.
I love these people, but you you have to get them early but the problem is they start she starts drinking early in the evening before she even gets down to the party so we didn't have the chance huh by the time you get through the pre-party then then it's too late she's she's too far gone i know i know yeah there's a little so there's a little bit of you know nudity in the hall but you know not not too bad so yeah nobody streaking down the halls like we've seen before which was funny as hell oh my god this was so hard to say something to somebody when you're laughing you're like oh that's so cool where's my camera?
Which you don't have on you, of course. No. Yeah. It was so funny. I don't know. So those were the bad apples. Yeah. Those were kind of the bad experiences that we'd had. Yeah. With the, you know, so generally the drunkenness and not being prepared to play. Right. And our balcony nudists and of course the running down the hall naked so but there's some positive stuff to be taken from this too absolutely focus on that ed because we need to close with a high close it up with a high yeah we had some very respectful people uh who were asking for consent. Yep. That was great behavior being modeled.
They were prepared. It was super awesome. They had Lilo condoms. Yeah. They had condoms in the room. Nice. They had a buffet set out, drinks. Expensive. And people were being assertive, which is great and super sexy it confidence again confidence is sexy so sexy so if you really want to come across as being sexy yeah be confident approach you just have to i and i and we've talked about this before and it's it it can you know some people are natural it and your confidence wanes, it peaks and ebbs and flows right over time. So if you're ever feeling like you're in that like ebb status.
Fake it till you make it. Yes. Put on the acting job and all of a sudden, you know, there you are.
And it's just as simple as starting a conversation yep pick something out in their outfit or their you know their sparkly glow thing they're wearing or call attention to yourself i'm not good at that but i love one of our friends she's calling attention to herself she's like i'm just gonna call myself out because i'm like super nervous and i get really super chatty and i'm doing this thing and i know it's really embarrassing but what about blah and then she'll it's like her inside voice comes out and it's so funny like it's so funny and you just relate instantly yeah she's just herself it's an icebreaker well yeah that's just she makes you very comfortable so that was fun too so there you go there's the there's the positive side to it the the assertive forward confident people that had buffets set out and drinks and approached you yes good times and they had that invitation in their pocket exactly they'd pre-written out their invitation so the whole card and i think we've talked about those before with the rooms get your room number on it yep and we handed ours out but ed and i are now thinking we need a way system yes because we hand out the hoe cards and then people if you're not good at following up you lose that connection right we're really good at following up so we need to get their contact information somehow without carrying you know a rock and a chisel around so that we can yeah right we have it has to be streamlined you're not carrying your phone you're not carrying a pen you're not carrying a piece of paper how do we do that i gotta put my brain to it i'll solve the problem i know i'll just bring a sharpie and start writing that information on your arm or your forehead maybe i start writing it on your body oh you're gonna write it on my boob?
Yeah, you could have them autograph your boob with their phone number. Oh, you know what? That's not a bad idea. It's a little sexy. And a Sharpie's easy to carry. And they just write their... One of the little stubby Sharpies. Right? So they just write their screen name on my boob? Yeah. Okay, that'll work. Let's try it. We'll give it a shot. Right? Yeah. All right, everyone. You just heard it. I'll see you next time.
boob yeah okay that'll work let's try it we'll give it a shot right yeah all right everyone you just you just heard it live a cool new idea for following up with other people although i won't be able to read it because i can't see it backwards in the way i'm gonna have to stare at your boobs to to see the screen name oh yeah if i have to can we get him to write it in braille and then i could just read it yeah any excuse to read it on your boobs touching looking i'll have to work on that one next well everyone we hope you took something educational from this podcast and found it entertaining as well.
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