
My Secret Seduction · My Secret Seduction
The Hello
Show notes
The Hello - Breaking the Ice in the Lifestyle 🎙️Join John and Susan for an honest conversation about one of the most crucial (yet often overlooked) aspects of the lifestyle: simply saying hello! Fresh from hosting a meet and greet in New Jersey, John and Sue break down why that first introduction matters so much—and why some people struggle with it more than others.In This Episode:💬 The Power of "Hello": Why the simple act of introducing yourself is the foundation of every connection in the lifestyle—whether it leads to friendship, play, or just a great conversation. Remember: Hello doesn't mean you're entitled to anything; it's just a greeting!🎉 Meet and Greet Mastery: Behind-the-scenes insights from hosting their recent New Jersey event with Passions Playhouse. From the couples who instantly connected to those who stayed frozen in the corner, John and Susan share what they observed and how they helped facilitate introductions.😬 Breaking Through the Awkwardness: Understanding why saying hello can feel intimidating (especially for newbies!) and practical tips for pushing past that initial discomfort. Spoiler: Complimenting someone's shoes works wonders!🤝 Etiquette Matters: The right way to approach couples in the lifestyle, why it's important to greet the man first, and how to avoid coming across as aggressive—especially for single men.💭 No Expectations Rule: Why going into any lifestyle event with zero expectations is key to actually having a good time. Not every hello leads to play, and that's perfectly okay!Sexy Storytime:Sue shares the story of their first hotwife party and how one gentleman—we'll call him "C"—did the hello just right. From that initial friendly conversation to their recent fifth meetup (featuring some creative coconut oil usage!), this is a testament to how genuine connection starts with simple respect and good manners.Upcoming Events:📅 November 15 - Bucket and Suckin' Cowboy Birthday Bash at Wicked Fun Club📅 November 22 - Sadie Hawkins Party at Wicked Fun Club (ladies, YOU'RE in control!)📅 December 6 - Slumber Party hotel gathering with Passions Playhouse in Fishkill, NY📅 December 13 - Sexy Santa Secret Santa party at Wicked Fun Club📅 December 30-31 - IPG New Year's Eve celebration in Scranton, PAGet all the details and sign up at mysecretseduction.com - check out the blog, take our podcast survey, and sign up for our newsletter!Got questions, comments, or topic ideas? Email us at [email protected] - we'd love to hear from you!Connect with us:SLS | SDC | Fetlife | Saints and Sinners | Wicked Fun Club | Club4PlaySearch: JandSExplorersHashtags:#LifestylePodcast #SwingingLifestyle #EthicalNonMonogamy #LifestyleCouple #SwingersAdvice #MeetAndGreet #LifestyleEtiquette #NewbieAdvice #LifestyleCommunity #SwingersLife #HotWife #LifestyleEvents #CNM #ENM #SexPositive #OpenRelationship #LifestyleFriendship #CommunicationSkills #MySecretSeduction #WickedFunClub #PassionsPlayhouse #LifestyleTips #SwingersClub #AdultLifestyle #LifestyleConnections #SadieHawkins #HotelTakeover #LifestyleParty #CoconutOil #NoExpectations Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Speaker1: All right, so here we are on the road again. On the road again. Just can't wait to get on the road again. How about we do that for karaoke next time? Okay. All right, so we'll begin in five, four, three, two, one. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to an all new episode of the My Secret Seduction podcast. I'm John. And I'm Sue. And here we go again on the road again, and talking this time about something that just, for me, I've been meaning to like sort of formulate into thoughts and words. And last night, we did a meet and greet out in New Jersey. And it really hit me then. You may have heard me say in the past how number one rule of swinging is hello does not mean you're entitled to be fucked or to fuck someone. Hello means hello. It's a greeting. It's a way of initiating conversation. But there are just some people who really struggle with the concept of hello, whether it's to say it, or whether you walk up to someone and say hello, they suddenly get like frozen. And I kind of saw that last night with some. This was out in New Jersey in Mawats. We did it with Passion's Playhouse, another group. And it was just a simple meet and greet at a bar. And there were people who messaged us and said, well, how are we going to know who you are or where you are? And I sent pictures out. And it was funny because as the evening went on, I'd see people that I recognized their pictures. And they were just sitting on the other end of the bar or they were sitting at a table. Not talking to anybody. They just sort of came in, took a seat, and sat down. So in those situations, Sue and I would walk up to them and engage them just to say hi. And for that matter, so did some of our friends. But I get that it's a little awkward at times, especially if you're new. If you're new, I get that. But then there are just some people who've been doing this for years, and I'm like, how are you not able to at least walk up and start a conversation with people at this point. Hello. How are you? Yeah. You know, nice place. Or what a dump they picked. Right. Whatever the conversation is to get things going. And then there were others that, you know, it was just amazing to see that instantly connected. Like the two younger couples. Yeah. That was really nice seeing them. You know, and that's the whole point. That was an aha moment for me. And I told you that last night. Yes. That, you know, I was really, like, happy to see people having a good time, but you could also see people were connecting. And it was at a bar restaurant that was attached to a hotel, so there were people who had gotten rooms for the night, so there were those that went upstairs together, you know. Yes. You know, that was, like, really cool. It was really cool just to see that, you know, those connections were being made. And not everybody has to make connections. No, no. with anyone last night at the meet and greets. Right. We basically acted as the host. I mean, there were some people that we were definitely interested in, but it just wasn't happening. I mean, part of it also was that I was tired. Yeah. You know, I was tired. I was not up for anything, really. We had kind of played a little beforehand. We did some pre-gaming with a friend of ours who we'll talk about in a little while in the sexy segment. But, yeah, you know, it's funny. because there are those people who can just naturally come right out and start a conversation. There are some who are just a little too aggressive, like a lot of single men who it's getting really tiresome just because I put pictures up of you in sexy clothing or, you know, engaged in sex, that that means they think they can just come right out and go, hello, I'd like to rip that ass. And we've had that. And then there are others who can't bring themselves to say hello. It's just so awkward. And I'm like thinking to myself, well, if that's awkward, what's sex going to be like? Well, I think it also goes back to like people going in with no expectations. And I think that, like you were saying, if you're new, it can be intimidating. The new people I totally get. Totally get it. But for people who've been doing this for a while, if you choose to go to a meet and greet, the whole idea is you meet and greet people. That's kind of in the name. So if you go and you just sit get in a corner the whole time and don't talk to anybody why'd you bother coming out right you know and i'm not like the type of person that's like the big social butterfly in group situations where i'm going around but you were last night well i was because i was the one of the hosts so that's different but like did you find it difficult no not at all not last night no but i could see how if i was going to and like somebody's meet and greet and i maybe i really didn't know a lot of people i might be on the shyer side but you you know you You know, you've got to push yourself out a little bit and, you know, just at least say hello to somebody, you know, compliment, you know, for me, like, I'll compliment a woman's shoes or something, you know, just to, you know, it doesn't have to be anything major, but just to at least get some conversation going. Right. And when you do the hello, it should be, if it's like, for instance, me, I say hello to the, to the man first in the couple. I do not approach the woman. You know, that, that's just, that's etiquette. That's etiquette. Yeah. You know, to cross as aggressive. You say hello to the gentleman, then it's up to him, you know, and this is my wife, my girl, what have you. And then from there, I mean, you know, it's funny because, you know, by the end of the night, you know, there were certain people that I'd never met before that we got a lot more comfortable with. One in particular who just, you know, as she was making her way out with her man and another couple, she just stops and starts kissing me. You know, I was like, okay. I don't know if that's a gratitude kiss Or another time kiss? I don't know. But, you know, but the only way that's going to happen is if you put yourself out there with the hello. Yeah. And that is... And don't think that the hello is attached to an expectation. You could say hello to somebody just to be nice and friendly because, I mean, everybody, yeah, we're, you know, in this lifestyle and part of this lifestyle is, you know, the sex part. But it's also about, connecting and talking with people. And we're all humans at the end of the day. Right. We are friends with people in the lifestyle we have never played with. Right. And probably never will. Right. But and not because of anything with them or with us. It's just whatever. It's just whatever. But but the bottom line is we value their friendship. Right. You know. So also remember that. And again, that's why. And we always say that, too. That's rule number two. No expectations. Yeah. You're going in, you're with your woman, your man, and you're there to have a good time. You can't have a good time if you don't start with the hello. Right. If nothing else, you'll have a nice conversation with somebody. Right. It doesn't have to lead to anything. It's just, you know, you're just being sociable. That's it. Yeah. That's it. We had quite a few nice conversations last night with a lot of nice people. Yeah. No, there was, and we, you know, it was a great crowd. A lot of people came out, more than I expected. A lot more. I mean, I'd say we were, well, There were 35 signed up. I counted at least 25 that definitely were there. Now, there may have been some others that we missed. Part of the problem also is that when it comes to a meet-and-greet, how do you sign up for a meet-and-greet and don't share any pictures? Again, if you texted us, I shared a picture. I opened up the pics to everybody in our face pics, to everybody who was coming, because I knew that was going to be one thing that was going to be weird. Yeah, because if you don't know people, you're at least to look for a familiar face. So we tried to do that. Right. Right. I mean, there were literally some people I'm like texting and going, are you sitting across the bar from us? Yes. Get over here. Get over here. What are you doing? You know, sitting alone by yourself. Right. You know, and then there's just some people who did sit by themselves and then they managed to actually connect with other people anyway, it seemed. Yeah. So. But it reminds me, you know, this whole thing. It's funny. You know, the very first time that we went to Saints and Sinners, I was that person who just was... First of all... We were that person. I mean, I may have said hello or something. You were a little bit wrong, but I was like... I was honestly terrified to say hello to anybody. But again, you were new. We were new. That's different. I've seen people... We've been at it since 2011. Yeah. And you're standing in a corner. What are you doing? Yeah. You really haven't been at it then. Or maybe it's just you weren't feeling... And that could be the other thing. You weren't feeling the vibe. Maybe you looked at the crowd and you were like, no. Not my crowd. Not my crowd. But I'll tell you, I'll be honest with you, I would be surprised by that because we had a variety of people. Yes, we did. Like all ages. I mean, just, you know. The oldest was 72. Yeah. And he was funny. Yeah. You know, and it's kind of like, so I'd be surprised if people like looked at the crowd because I would think you would find somebody that you would at least feel comfortable talking to. Just talking to, especially since you went out of your way to go to this. I mean, people traveled from, you know, Connecticut, New York, to come all the way out to New Jersey. Yeah. I think there were even a couple from Pennsylvania. So it's like, if you're doing all that, again, hello. I keep coming back to that. It's just a simple, simple thing. And I say that also is not always the most extroverted person either. But if there's going to be anything, whether it's friendship, or a sexual connection, you got to start With the hello. Yep. Anything else to add? No, I'm on the same page with you. Same page. On all of that. Good. It's nice we're on the same page. We usually are. We usually are. All right, so sexy story time? Okay, sexy story time. Sexy story time. So this time around, and it relates to what happened last night with our pregame, Sue's going to tell you the time about when we... With our first hot wife party. First hot wife party. So this would be... Actually, the only hot wife party. to one since. Yeah, we haven't been to one since. We've been invited to a few, but we just haven't gone for one reason or another. I think part of it was, in the end, we managed to make a connection, but I was disappointed with the party overall. To me, if you say hot wife party, the mission is you're finding either a single man or a man from a couple who is going to fuck your wife, woman, while you watch. That is my understanding, unless I am totally mistaken, that is my understanding of the hot Well, that's the idea of like a hot wife situation. It's like, you know, but it really ended up being more just like a regular kind of. It was. I mean, everybody was just swapping with each other. And I felt actually bad for the single guys who had signed up. But there was this one guy that, you know, C, we'll call him, who wasn't at all aggressive. He was just friendly. He was friendly, nice guy. He did the hello just right. He did. Yes, he did. He did the hello just right. Yes, you're right. And, and, you know, because there were a couple of guys there you thought were attractive, but then they were just jerks. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that was the difference with that party is that they allowed single guys. And, but other than that, that was really ish is that there were single guys there. Right. They allowed it, but I mean, everybody was, even the hosts. I'm like, dude, you know, let your girl just go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. But anyway, so, yeah. So we met C and, you know, he and I hit it off and then. I started chatting up and then I kind of jumped on him a bit. I started making out. And I sat in the corner with my scotch. And it was hot. It was hot. And the thing is, you know, the whole time with the experience, you know, he asked, is it all right if I finger? And boy, did he finger you. You were you were moaning like crazy. Yeah. You know, and he just the whole time he was a gentleman. I say that. I say he's a gentleman. But meanwhile, he's fucking you. Well, but that gives a difference because it's like he was. He never made me feel uncomfortable. He was very nice, and I had a lot of fun with him. So much so. You got his number. I got his number. We've connected. This was our fifth time, the last time. Yesterday. There was the hot wife. There was one with our friend A. Then there was one with another couple. a five-way. Yeah. And then there was one, just the three of us. Yeah. And then last night, the pregame was the three of us. So we, yeah, he got to the, we had booked a room at the place. Right. And he got there early, a little bit before the actual meet and greet started. And, you know, we had fun. We had a good time. I enjoyed the coconut oil. Tell them about the coconut oil. Oh, the coconut oil. So this is, this was something that my friend, Jay, A and D. So they introduced us to this. I had never thought to do this before. But if you get coconut oil like you get in the grocery store, it makes a nice move for like, you know, like jerking your guy off. Yes. It's like smooth and it's nice. It's really nice. And so I used that on both of them. At the same time. At the same time, which was pretty hot. Pretty hot, pretty fun. Yep. Yeah. There's a question for you. What would you say if I started, you know, and that just came to me? We have a website now. Oh, yeah. We have a website. We've not mentioned our website. Oh, yeah. All right. MySecretSeduction.com, where we have all our podcasts. Yeah. Plus, there's a blog. There's a survey about the podcast. You should check that out and let us know. We've got a couple of people already signed on to it. Ultimately, I'd like to do a newsletter, which the website has. that feature as well. But yeah, MySecretSeduction.com. So it was a good time. Yeah. It was a good time. Which is probably why I was so tired afterwards. So this was a short one this time, but... Yes. It was a short one, but coming up, we've got a few events. Yes. We're going to be at Wicked Fun, actually the 15th for Bucket and Sucket, I think it's called. Yeah. Cowboy theme party. Cowboy theme, yeah, for Dapper. Yeah. His birthday. So we're going to be there for that. And then the following week, we've got our Sadie Hawkins party. A little slow on the sign-ups right now. Yeah. Hopefully we're going to see more people because, honestly, it's a lot of fun. I mean, the women are totally in control. I mean, totally. They have to do the approaching entirely. The men don't even approach the men and try and set things up. because we're going to have a couple of single guys there. Yeah. We'll have some games to break the ice with prizes. And the dance floor will be open and all the features of Wicked Fun from the tantric sex chair to the swing to the Sibian to the massage table and the double orgy beds because there's actually two. There's one in the orgy room and then there's that one area with just the curtain if you want a little bit more of a voyeur feel to it all. Right. So that's all there. So that's on the 26th. 22nd. Then December 6th, we're in Fishkill, New York for a hotel party with Passion's Playhouse. And that's a slumber party. Yep, slumber party theme. Yep, double bedroom, double bathroom, kitchen area, plenty of room to mix and mingle there. And then finally the 13th? 13th of December, our Sexy Santa, Secret Santa or Sexy Santa. Something like that. But we're handling the Christmas party. Yeah. For Wicked Fun this year. Because the following week they got their bear affair. Yeah. So, you know, we'll deck the place out with balls of holly. Balls. Balls for holly. You know? How's that? Yeah, there you go. Deck the halls with balls for holly. Anyway. And then finally, right now we're planning on going to the IPG New Year's Eve event. Uh-huh. in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Two days. The 30th and the 31st. With all the fun that IPG offers. And we're looking forward to that. So that's everything happening with us right now. Yep. And we'll probably be back in a couple of weeks talking about how successful, I hope. I hope. Get on over. Wickedfun.com, folks. Yep. Sign up. Get that one month membership. And I'm telling you, after you've tried it out, you'll be back for more. Yeah, it's a great place. It is. It really is. is. So until next time, this is John. Sue. And we're saying, keep swinging. Thanks for listening, you sexy people. If you have questions, comments, or topics for future episodes of the podcast, write us at jandsexplorersatgnail.com. Visit us on the web at mysecretseduction.com, where you can find our back catalogue of episodes, blog entries, and more. This has been a WiseSecret Seduction production.
