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hey kids the program you're about to listen to contains some adult situations adult language themes and other adult topics if you're easily offended this show's not for you did that start hey you crazy motherfucker welcome back to another edition of crazy truth you don't know what it is i'm the host with your most i'm cole i'm here with the lovely lovely and just overworked as fuck miss amanda i am hey and we're here to tantalate titillate do other shit i don't fucking know whatever we'll see who knows case raw anywho uh so we're here that's all i got got.
Are you sure about that? Yep, great show. Way to go. Here we go. We're done. Actually, for those of you following along at home, this is season five, episode 196. We are so close to 200. I can taste it. Nom. I thought 196 was last week. Well, there's only one way to be sure because that's going to piss me off. Nope, because last week was 195, because C was for Coochie back then. But now we're on 196, and it's yet to be determined what letter we're doing in the alphabet.
This episode brought to you by Letter 12. No, Number 12. Letter 12. Or Letter. Or Number. Letter B. Or Letter. Who knows? Who knows? Who dat? Anyways. Yep. So here we are. So first, let's give a shout out to our sponsors. Good Lord. I thought you were ready to do this. I don't know if I am or not. I just don't know. I'm all discombobbled. No, let's give a shout out to our sponsors. First and foremost, Carrie Daniels. She is a hell of an artist and you need to visit her website.
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It's going to be spring soon A little fucking rodent didn't see its shadow So it's like six weeks sooner or some shit Anyways, nobody cares Just trust me on this, it's gorgeous out It's beautiful, it's so yeah. You have a whole other month before spring. Jesus. Thank God, because I need that time to get ready.
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Now we're just going to sit here and look at each other for the rest of the time. No I was just trying to figure out exactly what you said What do you mean what I said?
Because I wasn't listening So I was trying to think if you were talking about it being Monday And I'm like, no, it's Tuesday No, it's Tuesday today Normally we would record on Monday But look at that, we've got people Reggie's on, Eddie's on, he's on Because it's Tuesday It's Tuesday, Tuesday motherfuckers Okay, before we get too far down the path, and I'm not going to go into reasons why I'm going to say this. I'm just going to say that I'm going to say this, okay?
You know, there's lots of hubbub as the party season gets going again out there about the topic of consent in the lifestyle. And I just want to put it out there that, you know what?
We have been hardcore advocates about consent since day one to put it mildly okay we have very much been vocal about our feelings about consent about safety in the lifestyle you know just a few of those little things right so i did some counting i can count shows that we've done that are specifically about consent no boy okay specifically about consent one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen thirteen shows of the 195 that we've or not 190 yeah five that we've done to this point are specifically about consent slacker of the 70 shows that we have done that i've done in casbah rants one two three four 5, 6, 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 16, 16, 17bah Rants 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 10 of them have been about consent Okay That does include on every one of our shows If you go through and listen You are never going to hear us say anything But talk about the importance of consent All the way through So you know there's a lot of hubbub out there we are very proud of our record on how we have dealt with things like consent in the lifestyle how we've talked about demanding more out of lifestyle events and not not settling for shit shows and uh so yeah so if anybody wants to doubt that or put that put that uh put record up there, if you want a list, shoot me an email at crazy.krazy.kazbah, K-A-S-B-H, at gmail.com, and I can provide you with a list of the episode numbers so you can save yourself some time to go through and listen to them if you would like.
Just saying. Wow. Anyways. Is there a reason for that? Oh, Lord.
You know, the thing is, stupid shit happens in the lifestyle and it shouldn't happen and it's fucking bullshit that it happens, whatever, and then there is this huge fucking rush to jump on the bandwagon and you have people that are fucking holier than thou and you have to understand, there's a lot of fucking groups out there that think that if you get if you get if you monetize anything that you do in the lifestyle that that's wrong you're going to hell that you're an asshole and that means you're just trying to you're putting money ahead of ethics behind everybody else i will put my fucking record of putting the lifestyle as the top priority ahead of money even though though we are a business, 100% of the time.
Our events, our shows, our pages, we have always put people first. That has always been our priority. We've preached it. We've lived it. We've proven it time and time again. And so it's just really funny that for those that say that if you make any money, if you have a sponsor, then that's wrong. If you charge for a party, that's wrong. That means you're willing to just throw poor, innocent lifestyle people as victims to the woes. And that's not what we're about.
And in fact, we've been one of the loudest, most obnoxious voices out there about if something bad happens at an event to come tell us immediately so we can take care of it you know we've been one that's been one of the most advocate or biggest advocates of greater responsibility on party promoters to get better and to provide safer and better events and we've been one of the most loud obnoxious bastards out there about consent both for men and women We've been one of the most adamant out there, you know, uh, about putting about community and family and, and all of those things.
That's been what we've been about. It's been what we've been about since day one. And, uh, it's, um, it's annoying. Uh, one, it's shitty that there are situations that come up that cause people to absolutely have this discussion, okay, which is currently, if you're on certain social media, you'll see it. There are some bad things that happened, and so this is brought back up again.
But then in an attempt to, it's like there's this attempt to to make it that you know certain people certain leaders in life aren't doing enough it's you know it's it's like trying to bait us into into conversations and like i'll address it i'll stand by my record so like i say if anybody questions wants to know what the episode numbers are i can't give you all the episode numbers that we've talked about consent in some way in there because that would be like all of them but i can at least give you the numbers that we have that have been specifically dedicated to consent so now you can add number 14 to crazy truth okay so katie asked a good question are haters after you uh a little bit or you just vocalize no no a little bit we we've got we've got look it's not local the joy is we piss people off on a national level too we we've got someone never even met before yeah we've got some on a national level that look here's what's so funny is there's this on the national level there's these fucking, there's this thought process out there, right?
That, like, if you've ever done, if you've ever talked to or done anything with, if, how could, it's junior high. If Susie and Johnny and Gina are all standing there, and Susie and Gina hate each other, and they're pissed at each other for whatever squabble, and because Johnny one time talked to Gina, then Susie's going to be pissed at Johnny, and now we're going to go after him, too. And there's a lot of this fucking shit going on, and at the national level, it's fucking disgusting.
It's pathetic. Is it just one little group of people that are like throwing shit or is it a whole bunch of them ganging up on just a couple of people? What's funny this time is normally the groups of fucking jackasses, cause that's what a bunch of them are. Okay.
This is why, if you want to know why crazy truth does things the way we do, we don't partner up as a general, we just, we're our own little island and we're happy that way uh is because of because of this kind of shit and usually there's about four different camps of fucking i hate you and you hate us and blah going on all the time and what's funny is there's a there's one little group right now that they're they're going after all those groups and what they're trying to do right now what's been going on all day today uh and all that last night as well is there now there's like this attempt to publicly shame like when this episode gets released and they hear it oh they're gonna come after us like like fucking vultures we will we will be trending that's how much that will go after us and and which is like whatever okay about consent yeah the issue was about consent and and what happened was a couple people were apparently from what we don't even know the people involved that's just it we have no we have no and and what they're pissed about is is that we're not just jumping in to to voice your voice your opinion and and the thing is is from what i am reading some horrible things happen to some victims to some some people and involving consent and there's absolutely nothing justifiable in that in any way shape or form for me to interject anything when i have no knowledge of the people involved, the offenders, I don't know them at all.
I've never met them. I've never talked to them. We've never interacted with them at all. And the victims, we're definitely not doubting the victims. I don't know anything about the situation. It would be completely improper of me to jump in and add anything specific about a specific situation I know nothing about. All I can say is we believe in consent. And what we're getting called out for is that we're not raising our voices to blast these people.
How can I, in any conscious of Being honest and being being truthful blast something i don't know anything about all i can say is i know that consent is hugely important to us and we have preached that all the way through wait there's a difference between educated and not educated yes and the thing is it's like you know here's the thing Obviously if if i would have known these people or known of this i would be the first fucking one if i would have known of these people or known this situation or known that something like that was going on we have never shied away from saying anything controversial on this fucking show and and we we never fucking will they can all suck a dick if they don't like it we We have said more shit to piss more people off.
It's what I do.
So it's like, you know, and what's funny is some of the shows that, the other shows that are getting called out, this is what, there's a source of pride here to a degree because they're calling out some other shows that aren't involved either that have like four and five times the number of Twitter followers, 20 30 000 twitter followers compared to our poultry little fucking just shy 4 000 twitter followers you know what i mean and and so but they feel like we're leaders in the in the in this genre and we're not speaking out so i've been torn because i compose that list because i want to put something out there on Twitter, you know, and this is the great debate.
It's like, you know, you want to put something out there to defend yourself, yet you feel like you're being baited, in which you are, you know, because at that point in time, then it's going to be, you know, it's not like if by me putting it out there that then also everybody's going to go, oh, they're going to go, you know what? You have been doing your part. Keep up the good work. You know, that's not what's going to happen out of this. You're just going to be baited.
So you just sit there and you have to just bite your tongue as then the rest of the peanut gallery fucking jumps in and, you know, likes this post that you're getting fucking, your list is one of them getting blasted.
And you sit there and go listen to my fucking show listen to my fucking show go back spend the time do the research and listen to all 195 episodes and then and all 70 episodes of my rant and then call me out if you listen to our show and you feel like there's something that we should be called out about but i got a big old than nut, only one, but it's big. I got a big old ball. I can withstand it. I got big shoulders.
If there's something you legitimately feel you can call me out about after you listen to our shows, call me the fuck out. Because here's the deal. You know what? You might be right. And if you're right, I'll own that motherfucker. And I'll be the first one to issue a very public apology. But I'm just not going to get baited.
mean i guess i kind of did because i'm talking about it but i'm not going to get baited into uh this kind of crap it's like okay so you know when you bother to show up in the midwest to one of my events well then we can talk yeah you know because here's the thing i you know i don't know i think we've more than i people that have been, the literally thousands of people at this point in time that have been to our events, think about that for a minute, the thousands of people that have been to one of our events, the thousands upon thousands of people that have listened to our shows, the thousands of people that have met us in the last 10 years, and thousands of people that know us outside of lifestyle seem to say that we're doing okay.
We're not perfect, but we're doing okay. So there you go. You know, whatever. So we'd sit there and the worst part of the fucking lifestyle, I'm just going to put it out there right now, is that how many times, I swear to God, it's a miracle that I can still do this show. Because I have bit the fuck out of my tongue. Because you really don't win by fucking fighting back. No. You know, right there, right there, there's the Cavs of Army, he's got your back, Cole. And I appreciate it very much.
And that's the thing. You know what? All I'm going to, my thing is this. If fuck something up I want people to call us out And I'm gonna I want to make this Abundantly But we're the first to admit If we've done something wrong Well absolutely But I want to make this Abundantly clear right now So even when they listen to this Because they will Because they're gonna try To use it against me This is like Eminem I'll say everything That you're going to say about me. Can't use anything against me.
Rabbit. I'm rabbit right now. Anyways, that was me. Wow. Anyways, I'm going to be the first one to say this.
If at any point in time we ever say something that is victim shaming, okay, if we ever say something that is minimizes the importance of consent in shaming okay if we ever say something that is uh minimizes the importance of consent encourages uh people to not get consent or basically the creation of victims or have an event that that's that's the case i am asking and i'm holding all of you out there accountable to hold me accountable and to call my ass out on that. Absolutely.
And because you know what? If that means I've lost my ever-loving fucking mind and somebody needs to rein my ass in and lock me away. I think that's pretty fair. I think that's fair. But, you know, whatever. Who fucking knows? Ah, Jesus. All righty. That comes to way too much of our time. Hey. Let's talk about getting fucked. Wait. What did you wear Friday night? Oh, wait. You mean my shirt that said consent required? Yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah. Because what did you wear it with? My kilt.
Because I went out of my comfort zone, and so I put that with it. Yeah, as my kilt. Because here's the deal. Why would I know anything about consent when I've had my nut ruptured? Just throwing that out there. I've personally been a victim of aggression, unasked for aggression. At a party. At a party. There we go. I'm such a dick. Asshole. They call me Piggy. Anyways. I thought you were going to say Tater's house. God, the last thing I need is to get sued right now, too. Are you shitting me?
Anyways. Ah, yeah. So there you go. Tate the macaroni's house. God. Man. Jesus. Wow. Anyways. So. But, okay. So I want to get on. A, number one. We had a good weekend. You know, we're not a show that kisses and tells, but fucking, we had a good weekend. Obviously, getting old sucks. Kids, this is why you need to get healthy. This weekend, she got fucked. Yay, her. Me, my body fucked me, which is not the good way.
that's this getting healthy type thing so i had something that like fucked up for me getting fucked and so get healthy kids it makes a fucking difference i'm telling you i'm living it uh so make sure you get healthy a little bit because then you can either be like have the fun of getting fucked versus being fucked if that makes sense did you have fun this weekend no fuck you shut up yeah so so yeah no so uh you Thank you. Shut up. Yeah. So, yeah. No. So, you got Buck. I did. With a seal killer.
Thunk. I didn't look at it. Weirdly enough, I didn't. No, but when I went to visit it later, you were not the seal killer, but its holster. You were poofy and swollen. We'll cover you, Shannon, in just a minute. Yeah. Well, okay. So in all fairness, I met this guy years ago. Years ago. Every single time we saw him at a party, he would make sure to tell me how much he wanted to hook up with me. He was a single male, but he was always... Very respectful. Totally respectful.
And respectful not at events like he would like things occasionally on Facebook, but he wasn't like bombing you with stupid messages, bombing you with dick pics. Always like mega respectful dude. Go. Actually, I only seen his dick once and that was flaccid. So you knew kind of going into it that you were going to be doing okay. It was going to be decent. Was it decent? Yeah. Okay. There you go. Yeah. And there's a few less baby seals in the world today.
See, now I'm going to get rid of it by PETA. See how that works? How did he define? What? What word did he use that I was? He said microphone? Fuck you. No, he didn't. Oh, okay. Just checking. This makes for great. Because I was coming a lot. You were very responsive. Yes. Here's what's funny.
I was going to talk about that I wasn't in the room No but I told you about it You were the most responsive Person that he had hooked up with So that was a compliment Way to go Your pussy speaks It pussy speaks it like those whale tones so yeah so but the but the event we went to besides you getting laid was awesome we had a great time at island riders as we always do fun time was had by all shit ton of our cadets were there like 10 of our cadets were there people we hadn't seen in.
We did the bet there. I had a bet four years ago that I wouldn't wax my nose. We waxed my nose. There's videos on our page, which is awesome. A couple other guys participated. Yeah, we had a bunch of guys get their noses waxed. But, okay, we have to address the very important situation.
So let's start with this i talk about moderation i had 33 jello shots now i was still walking i was tipsy but i was still walking you actually were pretty damn coherent first that doesn't include the other shots i had my liver doesn't like me anywho so the thing is is that i gained like six pounds so did i actually that's what's funny yeah i said i did too i gained eight pounds uh so but half a cupcake so the thing is is when we so people need to know this we love to dance yes we love to dance and we really didn't dance that much well you were you were off getting fucking wailing.
No, I'm just kind of asking. But the thing is, so when we've been drinking, we really like to dance. One, it sobers us up. And two, we just do it. And when we hear a song, we can be across the room from each other, and we're going to run over and grab the other one, and we're going to go dance. Right. So I'm really drunk. Not really drunk, but I'm really tipsy. And I hear.
Well, hold on because we weren't too far from the food no we were not too far from the food so you know what do you do when you're drunk you snack so i'm like cupcakes we know how she is with cake um anyway so i gotta go and grab a cupcake. Now, how I eat a cupcake is very dainty. And so I don't get frosting all over my mouth. Yes. Everybody likes to say I have a big mouth, but I don't. Okay. I don't. You have good jaw muscles, let's call that. Okay, go ahead.
So what I do is I take the wrapper off the bottom, and I hold the cupcake, and I take the bottom half of the cupcake off and eat that first so I can save the frosting for last. Yep, because that's your favorite part. Because that's the good part.
So why I'd eat that is because then I can, like, take a bite without getting without getting Frosting all over my face We don't want that Messes up the makeup Even though you know I had the fresh fuck look But I touched up the makeup before I went back No one will ever know So then you know I proceed to start eating The good part I think I got a bite and you go Oh Amanda Come on and I'm like So I set my pop down Because I was drinking got a bite. And you go, ooh, Amanda, come on.
And I'm like, ugh. So I set my pop down because I was drinking pop because, well, Amanda had had enough alcohol. And here's the key. She set her pop down on the table that was right there. Go ahead. Well, there wasn't a place to put my cupcake up.
You could have set it on the table right there or the can of pop you just set on top of the can but all i did was i took one bite i look up and poor shannon is sitting there now his wife was closer to me but for some reason i just saw shannon i'm like you know i'll just give it to him so i go shannon he opened his mouth he turned around to go what he turned around to say something and you shoved and i go like this and he opened his mouth shut what she's trying to say it she still can't do without laughing she shoved the entire cupcake in his mouth and ran off to go dance.
There was only like a third of a cupcake left. The good part. Shannon had the best post on her page on that was the advice. His song was Kisses. Who put the X in sex? Someone like, let's go dance. Cupcake be damned.
Shannon put it and goes, piece of advice If you're around Amanda And she has half a cupcake And kiss comes on Keep your mouth closed So So Yes I don't know what my face looked like When you did it Well you took it Thank Thank God Thank God it wasn't Someone put something close to your mouth I'm like well okay So in all reality If you really didn't want to he'd go and turn his head and then you would have smooth frosting down the side of his face no i wouldn't we're just really thankful that shannon's not diabetic and so we didn't amanda did not kill anybody and or me in the attempt to dance oh my god i felt so bad afterwards going wow i just kind of shoved that thing in his face.
At least she gave away the good part. Yeah, but you did give him a kiss. Yes, and after I did that, he took the whole cupcake in his mouth. I grabbed him by the cheeks and I gave him a kiss and then ran off dancing. So there's that. I got nothing. I'm sorry. We got that. And, yeah, so that was. That was hilarious.
I'm still laughing at it every single time i think about it yep and so uh i don't know if we're going to be allowed to be around cupcakes for future events or not right there is the closest thing to non-consent we've ever done right there and cupcake consent you're shoving cupcakes in somebody's mouth that'll be what'll be on twitter they'll use it against me. Well, you cupcake molested somebody. Anyway, so yeah. If he really didn't want it, he could have spit it out. And maybe he did.
He had been wearing it. You don't know what he did. He might have went, well, cheers, we're going to wear it. No, I gave him a kiss afterwards, so the cupcake was pretty much swallowed by then. Okay, well, I mean, it was either that or choke. So we don't waterboard people. We cupcake people. So there was that. Yep. So other than that, we haven't been asked to not come back. You know, and Bill is the DJ that night. He was saying, great to see you two.
Come running up to the middle of the dance floor, dance room to the dance floor. Yeah, we get really shy about dancing. When we hear stuff we want and we're at these events, we're just like, we don't care if anybody else is around us. Yeah, we're like, we dead stop what we're doing mid-conversation, whatever, grab each other, and run off. So actually, we should always put that out there for everybody. At least it was a good cupcake. We should actually put that out there. I had one already.
To everybody that during the course of either Friday or Saturday night when music or events were happening, that we just all of a sudden were like, we'll be right back and ran off. Sorry, it's nothing personal, but when the music starts, man, 30 years, that's how we do this. When the music starts, we're going to go dance. So, don't take it personal. We'll come back to you. Don't worry. Eventually. Get a couple good songs in a row. But we'll get there. No worries. So, yeah.
So, that was a yeah so great good party good party good time was had by all and uh yeah and we had so i we do actually have a question we're going to deal with today are we well we're not a question but we're going to kind of deal with a situation like like it's not a fun i was gonna say a fun situation no not really but kind we're gonna, but kind of Amy needs a cupcake soon When you get up here, I'll give you a cupcake And so then, of course, I had a good lunch too So there we go, today Working from home Really has its perks And so, yeah Having a booty call does too Yeah, it really does It's amazing how much better lunch is when you don't even eat lunch and you just have sex instead uh need to say anyways so uh had to get my workout in somehow i got some cardio and that was good wow am i out of shape that's bad nothing like nothing like spending from today over the weekend from today because Shit, the weekend.
We were partying until, what, 3 a.m. Friday? Oh, God, yeah. When you were, I went to bed at like 1.30. Oh, God. And then Saturday we get up. I go run on the treadmill. We go have breakfast. We come back and we pass the fuck out and wake up at noon. Oh, fuck.
It's like, today yeah and i wasn't gonna drink much saturday night and then the jello came out right i'm still i all my my organs are still like jello molds right now it's it's fucking oh my god i made one mixed drink the rest of it was jello shots in an hour and a half i was like oh you need oh we were both like oh i had two i had two drinks and then i had uh like six or seven shots people were pouring me shots and then jello shots people shoving jello shots oh they were coming from every angle and then you know of course i didn't want to insult anybody we want everybody we don't want anybody to feel bad and so then uh yeah then i was just like fucking oh oh, my Lord.
Oh, good God. My favorite were the pineapple Jell-O with Malibu rum. Here's the reality of it. By the end of my Jell-O shot excursions, besides being drunk, I was full. But I was to the point I couldn't taste any of the flavors. By that point, all I was doing was licking big containers. And these motherfuckers all had big, big Jell-O shots. I'm licking big containers. At one point in a time, I snorted and shot one out my nose. I forget who was at that table. I was like, oops.
And they're like, oh, my God. Here's how drunk I was. They go, oh, you're wasting. I'm like, not really. And grabbed it and just fucking finished it. I don't even know. This is why chicks dig me. Oh, whatever. Well, you know, I'm a dude. It's all right. When I was in college, I'm sure I ate jello shots off the floor. I've been known to do that. Yeah, somebody had a chocolate-covered strawberry shot. Banana drink. I drank a ton of the banana drink shit. I had two of those chocolate-covered.
Poland, some booze from Poland. That was actually really good. That was really good.
Yeah, I sure was the chocolate covered cherry one was good and then i'm like okay you obviously mix it what was in it and it was like a chocolate liqueur and then when she goes in rose whatever tequila tequila rose oh fuck i'm in trouble yeah and then and so she goes here and they said well mandra said you need this it was my fourth one and it was her third one i took that one oh yeah it was fucking train wreck so anyways it was all but a great again like always great time was always said so quick midway break here real quick and we'll be right back hey what are you doing march 11th i know what you should be doing how about coming to a birthday party why because everybody loves cake miss manda's favorite is cake and that's March 11th, we're having the Crazy Casbah 6th birthday party.
That's right. We're six years old. Can you believe it? No. We are six years old. It's a little bit early. The Ida's March when all started. So come on out. If you want to learn more about our Crazy Birthday Bash, sign up today. Shoot us an email. Crazy, K-R-A-Z-Y.Casbah, K-A-S-B-H, gmail.com. Come and help us celebrate with some cake, fun, and festivities. March 11th, Crazy Kazba, lifting the shades, birthday bash, Kazba style. Raising the shades. Raising the shades.
Come on, I came up with a name. Well, there you go. Okay, so, anyways, we're back. We never really left. I don't think anybody thinks we leave. No. We should leave. We should, one of these times, really fuck with people and just get them to walk out and be like, what the fuck's going on? Okay, so. I mean, I could. So, okay. So, today, we had a couple that was, they wanted to talk to me. They were having some questions, some issues, whatever, and just to get our opinion. And here's the key.
We stress this again, but again, I have to stress this more currently. We don't blame to be anything other than people with opinions, right? With a lot of experience, that's all we got. So anyways, so one of the things that they were talking about was playing alone and how it can be that we don't ever have jealousy. Oh, I was going to say it. Well, no, it gets better. And the fact that jealousy, you know, does it go away?
And I was just like, you know, we haven't talked about this for a while, but I think it's becoming a big deal because now that you're seeing people out partying hard, now that COVID's kind of loosened up in the strings. So I think it's important we hit this again. One, I'm going to put this disclaimer out there right now. We have said it before. We'll say it again. We are not in an open relationship. We are not. An open relationship has different rules. We are in a free-range relationship.
Literally today, I called you after the fact and said, oh, by the way, I had sex over lunch. And I was like, okay. Okay, that is not, we do not, we're not advocating. That didn't taste good. Yeah, I'm at the best lunch I've had for a while. We are not saying, that's not for everybody. No. At all. So understand as we go forward with this, that is not the discussion that we're having that, well, we advocate everybody should be this way. No. I don't know. We are not saying that's not for everybody.
No. At all. So understand as we go forward with this, that is not the discussion that we're having that, well, we advocate everybody should be this way. No. So, but I think that's where I wanted to talk about what had happened where I knew, like you, I could tell you what he said about being responsive with your hookup this weekend. Trying to get people to understand, no matter how long you've been in this lifestyle, the one thing that does not change is communication.
It's not that jealousy doesn't happen. No matter how long you're in this, jealousy still is going to happen. It's going to happen, but communication is the only way around it.
So so an honest communication and the willingness to be able to listen and the willingness to say when you fuck up and the willingness to say when you're fucking when you're fucking wrong and sometimes you don't this happens to me a lot I know it's hard to believe sometimes you don't know you're wrong at first don't even look at me like that you fucking bitch no well i mean seriously but what i mean by that is we've talked about it before we you don't always know you're wrong because you you have your viewpoint you have your perspective like look at this you only see it from your eyes and not from somebody else's think of it as a tv show this is the analogy i thought of all day today think of a swinging hookup as a tv show you can only see in that tv where the camera from based on what camera they let you see it from so if the camera is you that's only your angle you you can't totally see and understand the perspective the other person's looking at it with.
So from your perspective, you may think you're right. But if you're willing to open your fucking eyes and listen and take a chance to look at it or try to see it from the other person's perspective, well, the view is a little bit different. And all of a sudden it's like, well, what you said is a little bit different. And how you said it is a little bit different and how it was perceived is a little bit different.
And then all of a sudden you might not be, you might not be standing on such solid ground at all. Have you ever had a situation like that, dear? Are you going to say something? Amy says, Chelsea happens over so many things in life in general, so why would one expect it not to happen in a lifestyle? Very true. Are you going to say anything other than, mm-hmm, Jesus fucking Christ? I was reading her so I didn't hear exactly what she said.
Next week on the show, we're interviewing my brand-new parrot as my co-host. What did you say that you wanted me to answer? I wish we could play it back now. It would be so much easier that way. Oh, my God. Technically, you probably can. No, we're not going to play it back. Oh, my God. We can't even handle going forward at our own speed. Do you really think of... Rewind. No, we're not going to do that. No way. What does that look for?
The thing is, have you ever had a situation when you re-looked at something from my perspective or somebody else's perspective and lifestyle that your opinion of who is right has changed?
And give us an like i fucking know and that's like well no because there's times where you've said something to me and i'm like no you're wrong and then i go off and i go well i did come come off kind of bitchy you know maybe i should go back and i'm like well yeah you're right it doesn very often, but I've got all seven times recorded. No, I'm kidding. I am wrong. But, no, it's very true. We still, almost 11 years into this, we still pretty much talk about everything with hookups.
Like, I mean, you know, it's now, okay. Has it changed? Has the conversation changed? Yes. The conversation used to be, well, I was peppering you with questions. You know, it's like, well, what about this? What about that? What size was he? Was he bigger than me? Did you do this? You know, I initially almost wanted aby-play. That was my own insecurities. Well, we kind of did do a play-by-play. But initially, we were in the same room. But you still wanted to have a description of how it felt.
Yeah. Yes. Now, what's funny, it's not now that we don't care, but I think it's just what you need changes. And it's okay to have your needs change. Does that make sense? Am I describing that right? Yeah, you are. Thanks for the deep commentary, Chris. Shut up. God. My God.
Initially, when we first started the lifestyle, for for me it was i wanted to see reactions i wanted to see your look to her what you said to her versus her looking at you and what she's saying to you that was mine that's what i wanted to see so i'm like once i've seen you play with them then i'm okay with you to play with them by yourself what what do you think okay well first mike says i don't care yeah mike says there's no such thing as too much communication and lifestyle even if you think you're on the same page it's still a good idea to verify especially when you're sniffing another very much so uh amy play by play can be good it can be good but at times as time passes it changes very much so.
Amy, play-by-play can be good, but at times, as time passes, it changes very much so. Because actually, if you think about it, a play-by-play was more of a turn-on we end up fucking afterwards anyway. Yeah, yeah, it was. What do you think, when did it change for you? What caused it to change where, because now you don't even, I mean, we don't have to have met the other person. The only, the biggest thing for me is I look out for safety for you. You know what I mean? But I mean, I don't.
But I actually haven't hooked up with anybody you don't know. I mean, the guy at work was probably the closest. Right. But I mean, but it's not like I didn't see him on a daily basis. If you were going to hook up with somebody, there would have been a guy that I didn't know at the party and you wanted to hook up with him, I wouldn't have cared. No, probably not.
And, I mean, for you, when did it change for you that it was like you didn't have to, you don't care now if you know him first or to see it first? Oh, what changed? Experience. Yeah. Trust? Well, we've always had trust. That was never an issue. But I think, don't you think to a degree it can be? Even if it's not, it's... Well, there's probably an itching in the back of your mind of there's always a chance. But you're crazy enough, I don't think you're going to leave me for somebody.
You just don't think anybody else will want my ass. No, no. There's a lot of girls that actually want you. No, they might want to have sex. It doesn't mean they want to keep me full-time. Shelly, yes, your needs and rules should always be changing. The lifestyle, like life, should always be evolving. Very much so. Amy, for me, changing happened once. I dug real deep and handled my own insecurities. Yep. Travis, we have a no-go with people and we work with. Yeah, you don't.
No, but the joy that you understand where you're at and what your rules are. I think you reach this point where, yeah, the jealousy changes. If you want to say that there's jealousy.
Because there's times, you know, it's not, it's not when we were first in lifestyle there were things that could make you or make me very very jealous like jealous jealous it's that's not the same type of thing it's more like now i think it's more like questions as i go or hey just want to touch base on this because I'm not kind of feeling this or just, just a little simple reassurance.
It's not the same type of thing as when you're first new of like, Oh my God, what are you thinking about him when you're fucking me now? Or, you know, that, that doesn't come anymore. And it look, and it's not to say if it does still in your life, in your journey, that's okay. It's not like that it has to go away. But I think for most people it changes and it does go away.
And I think that's probably a lot of it is that you do reach a point where, at least for us, our relationship is starting to – we're not concerned about either one of us leaving the other one. No.
Because we've of reached that point it is just sex well right but to understand our relationship dynamic to begin with we've always just talked non-stop about everything everything even stupid make-believe shit well not stupid but i mean we'll make up stuff and talk about it i mean this is really weird Well, entertain ourselves We're like 12 No but really it's like we can talk non-stop I know it's hard to believe Isn't it?
Not just me motherfucker Don't talk history and politics yeah well yeah no shit but yeah so for us to communicate it was never that big of a deal no but you do just reach a different level of self-assurance and and honestly this is going to sound brutal as hell i can say we have met some incredible people in lifestyle over the last 11 years and i have some incredible relationships and you have some incredible relationships that include sexual relationships with people in lifestyle but as as as everything they are and they're very important parts of our lives none of them reached the point that it would that it even would cross my mind that i would want to replace you with them and here's what's the awesome they're the same way with with us with their spouses you know and and so you when you have that you know it actually sets you it it makes the lifestyle easier it makes it easier to a degree unless you get complacent That was the whole thing with them today is that I was trying to get them to understand.
So after she has been with a seal killer, you're not concerned about throwing a hot dog down a hallway anymore. Oh, really? I used to be.
At one point in time, I lost lost my fucking mind I was in the delivery room for the birth of all three of my children I saw how big Their heads were when they popped out And she could still feel me after that So I don't know when somewhere I got stupid early in the lifestyle I'm like well if the wiener is bigger than I You're not going to feel me I now understand now understand it still shrinks back. And if I'm concerned, I make her drink more water. Whatever. Just saying.
Patrick gets me that doesn't like history. He's the one that loves it. Yeah. I'm a history nut. So, but I think that you just, you just reached this point where it's like, I don't know. I wouldn't change our dynamics now. I mean, I think the other thing I think people don't understand, when we say we're free range, we're still respectful. You're the one that labels it. I think that's not a fucking chicken. Well, kind of. Kind of we are. The thing is, no, but we're re...
We'll go peck in this corner for a little bit. No more peckers for you. That's the problem. No, and the thing is, is that we're still respectful of each other. Well, yes. So here's the thing is, is if all of a sudden, if all of a sudden, like, we went in a stretch of a month straight and every day, oh, by the way, I fucked.
Oh, by the way, I fucked this i think that would create an issue it would not an it would no no no let me rephrase it wouldn't create an issue it would be a topic of conversation it might be a little bit it would and and i think that would be either way because then all of a sudden it's like then all of a sudden it's organic meat stop it then all of a sudden it's like uh but but that that changes the ball game you know a little bit that's it that's a totally different thing because we're still respectful of that you know even though even though i i still said thank you today when i for letting me play you know and and you still said thank you Saturday for letting you play.
And I mean, you know, we're still respectful of each other. And that's the lifestyle, although a huge part of our life, because it's our job, it's our everything, it still has not taken over our life. It hasn't fucking other people.
That's one of the things that this guy was talking about was this excitement and need to go fuck all the time you we're past that point it's like that that doesn't make something successful or not successful uh you can imagine you can come back in our corner uh it it doesn't make you it doesn't we're we're just over that part of it, you know. And honestly, there's a lot of things, there are times I would love to go back in a lifestyle when we were new.
Because there was parts of it that's fun when you're new. You're on the hunt. You're on the hunt and whatever. But I don't know that I wouldn't, I don't know that I would necessarily go back to that, though. Because I, you know what, we leave every event having had a good time because we go out and have a good time. We don't have any of the, you know, well, it's kind of sucks because we didn't get it, we didn't hook up. You don't have that. It's like, I'm okay with where we've evolved to.
Do we have a ways to go? Sure. I mean, you know.
There's always a i mean i i think there is i think that you know it's one of those things that i think that as we go through this i i can't i don't know communication is still it's just i keep going back to that because it just every single part of the lifestyle every part of it the shit we were talking about earlier, the whole concept of consent, successful couples in the lifestyle, successful singles in the lifestyle, successful events in the lifestyle, every single part of the lifestyle, 110% start with the exact same building block, communication.
If you have about an event the event's gonna be shitty if you have shitty communication with each other the event's gonna be shitty this the the lifestyle you can become a victim of lifestyle very easy if you have shitty communication consent becomes an issue you know because what happens you don't communicate how you feel whatever, or it doesn't get stopped because, because somebody doesn't say no, or, or somebody isn't told. Every single thing comes down to that one element.
And that's part of the fucking thing with the lifestyle that is so people don't get, it's like, there's quit looking at all these other, these other little side things and go to the root. The root of everything is communication. That's what you have to talk about. So when you do a new, if you're, if you have a group or event and you're going to do a new swinger seminar, okay, communication, that's the starting point. What are you looking at? I'm just hearing noise.
Oh, that's, the studio is haunted. That's the starting point. What are you looking at? I'm just hearing noise. Oh, that's it. The studio is haunted. That's the starting point. Because everything a new couple needs to know from there is communication. Before you even get in the lifestyle, whether or not you will or will not be successful in the lifestyle is you can, I would bet money.
If you land up 10 couples, I'll bet on everyone that I can can tell you whether or not to be successful in the lifestyle or not all with the simple question of on a scale of one to ten how do you rate your communication right now based on that number i will tell you whether or not to be successful but every time i've ever had because that's the key why are you looking at me like that Because if the beginning of somebody would have come up to you and asked you that, what would you have said?
Our relationship? Ten. I actually would have arrogantly figured that it was better than it was. Was it wrong? Yeah. Oh, absolutely it was wrong.
I believed that we had perfect communication communication we had damn we've always had damn good communication fucking close we had good communication we didn't have perfect well no one has perfect i can oh how's your boom i can give you i can give you i had consent to my wife i had i have the perfect example of it is that after the very first time which which you learned on the show, you asked me, what did you think? And you lied. And I said, it was good.
When the reality of it was, is that that moment in time, okay, if we had perfect communication, if my correct answer would have been, I don't even fucking know, I can't figure out what I'm processing with this. What did you think? Because I don't know about this. So the cool thing is you can still grow from it.
But if you start off, if you think your communication is a four on a scale of one to ten before you even start, you might want to stop right fucking there because you are headed for eight.
Look, this is not You learn to bartend by learning on the fly You don't learn to communicate by fucking other people Everybody has their own way of communication And their own degree But if you think it's shitty without putting sex in it Well, no, but somebody could You know, their Their description of communication for them could be half of what we have, but they consider it perfect communication. Well, yes. But I also can read people a little bit.
So when somebody goes 10 and then you look at them and they're not fucking, and you're going, no, no. You know how you do that? You spend them both as a couple and you have them answer at the same time. And go. Two, ten, you got a problem. Yes. Or when one says ten or five and the other one goes, looks at them like, what the fuck? You got a problem. Seriously, I'm just saying. I think that ultimately that's where everything starts. I'm agreeing. I just have thoughts running through my head.
Well, start laughing About you know Like It makes you sound like an ass though That's alright go ahead I probably have been Like one turning point in our communication Strength building whatever was probably the last fight we ever had God, was this before Kato, man? Oh, this was before the lifestyle, sweetie We were sitting at the kitchen table and we were.
And there was, I don't even remember exactly what all was getting thrown at, but it was like I was mad at you for something, and I told you what I was mad at, and you were mad at me because I stayed at home, and how come my house wasn't perfect? Oh, yeah. I was young and very, very stupid.
And then it was like a lot of talking after that and i think that's where we actually became honest and listened to each other versus just having our own opinions of what it should be well but yeah because i think when that was a turning point in our communication with each other i think when we heard each other what we had both just said to the other one yeah it was kind of like right after we said it we were both like now when i hear somebody else that well you know i told her you know i don't understand you know you're home all day how come your house isn't clean i'm like you really did not say that to him i just cringe a little inside and part of me dies but but it was we we and then the one time you stayed home with the kids and went oh fuck jesus god yeah that was horrible but but that okay yeah that's it i mean that's a horrible example but that was like a turning point but it wasn't a horrible example because it's very very true because it was at that moment in time we were young we were young that was like that was probably that was probably 13 years so we're in our 30s Thank you.
very true because it was at that moment in time we were young we were young that was like that was probably that was probably 13 years so we're in our 30s anyways and uh so we were stupid and it took kind of a sledgehammer that we hit ourselves with to go wait a minute it's really funny because that you said it best that was really the last the last fight that we've had i mean it's it's literally we're not perfect we have because it was more of just like a heated conversation no that was a fight and tears yeah that that one was a fight fight that was that was we when we were younger like a lot of couples we had our brutal usually money was involved and or lack thereof and we had we had those brutal knockdown drag outs we're a couple now that part of the reason how can we do what we do now quite honestly we don't fight we have discussions we may not agree we may have a heated a little bit of a heated discussion but we'll talk about it but it's not a fight it's far from from a fight we don't do that anymore because but now i'll just stand up to you and go i don't i i don't agree with you at which point in time i just hope she doesn't slap me no i'm just kidding uh christina communication and being heard are so important.
Oh, where did it go? Are so important. I'm not comfortable with things being sprung on me at the last minute. For me, I need 100% transparency. And I think Amanda would like that too. I'm not very good about that. No, we are on our other stuff. It's funny you say that because that was something that we talked about with the couple that I was talking to is that you have to have transparency, especially when you are playing alone.
Even if you don't, okay, if you don't like or don't like to see you're not comfortable seeing or whatever, you like hearing about it, but you don't like seeing your spouse. Here's the one thing I think we both learned, and you jump in if you think I'm wrong. Your mind is 20 times more powerful than your eyes.
What I mean by by that what your mind can envision is can can be 20 times more scary 20 times more intense 20 times more off the fucking path than what you actually see basically our minds can run away with us i know it happened to me very much so when we're first doing the playing by yourself and playing alone thing i'm telling you you're fucking my mind what that was part of why you were i peppered you so many with so many questions and almost needed a a minute by minute thing because in my brain i mean you know i envisioned this porn-like setting you're just on top and sweats flying oh i just fucking you know i'm gonna wait till after i took it sound like a bull moose and heat type shit then at the beginning weren't you like is that all no there has to be more isn't there more you're leaving something out yeah like because because my brain had already painted you'd have loved to have got fucked like my brain thought you were getting a fuck because my brain had you fucking getting six ways to tuesday and three guys randomly popped in the room and fucking gang banged i mean that way but sure but that again it just shows the fucking sex proxy it just shows how much your your brain when left to its own devices you can go you can get spun pretty fucking easy and that's why it's so important i think now we're at a point where we don't get spun and the thing is if it has come up a time or two i'll be like okay tell me what down because i'm kind of going off and you're like what no there's been times where you go no you know my mind's playing tricks on me you know i think you did this i'm like no yeah and the thing is is now i recognize that's exactly what it is but i say it all the time my reality is your perception and the thing is is that in that situation if you have a perception of something and you don't have it explained to you in a language that you can understand, it takes on a life of its fucking own.
And that is when shit goes south. Wait, a language that you would understand? Mm-hmm. That's why. Wow, isn't that a key?
And where did I learn that from did i learn that from dun miss amanda because because men and women think nothing alike no okay so there were times when when not even sex related not even swinger related just in life in general sometimes you have to keep explaining something you listen to what somebody's trying to say to you but then if you go no that's not what i said you have to keep adjusting it until that person comprehends what you're saying it's it's tuning until you find the till you're speaking the same language and and here here's the other thing we put out there i say this to you all the time one the things you have to decide in the lifestyle, especially if you're going to play alone, especially if you're going to play alone, you have to understand that there are going to be times that this shit's going to come up, okay?
That there's going to be confusion, concern, mind-running muck, whatever. No matter how long you do this, there's going to be times times what you have to be on the same page about before you go into it is, are you willing to put the work into it to find the answers when that happens? When I do a wedding, I perform tons of marriages all over. One of the, one of the things I say in marriage during the ceremony is, uh, some people say a wedding does not take work. They're wrong.
A marriage takes, or excuse me, some day, some Some people say a wedding does not take work they're wrong a marriage takes or excuse me someday some people say a marriage does not take work they're wrong a marriage take takes work every single day the difference is like all things that are important to you it doesn't seem like work that's being that is being a lifestyle through and through is it are you willing to put in the work which maybe it's a day maybe it's a week maybe it's two to keep working to explain until you find that not take the easy way and go well fuck it never mind i don't care but actually to find to explain so that you're both on the same page if you're not willing to do that a the lifestyle might not be for you in general, for one.
Playing alone is definitely not for you. So because I don't know what this conversation, what this couple is, since you keep hammering on playing alone, I'm going to assume that that's what they've been, how new were they in their relationship? New. So why are they even considering playing alone?
Because they thought that that would what they've been how new were they in there new so why are they even consider playing alone because they thought that that would make it easier they were having trouble playing in a group and they thought that that would make it easier because there had become confusion and discomfort with uh one side feeling like that that uh you know, you know, basically the both sides were paying closer attention to what the other one was doing.
And so they were afraid of fucking shit up basically. And, and they went, they, they made that jump. And that's just, it's such a, it's such a huge jump to make. Okay.
So I'm going to, i'm gonna i'm gonna go out on a limb and and think when we first started in this lifestyle yeah yeah like very first but we always played same room um i'm gonna assume that there'd be a lot of jealousy and especially in a new relationship uh-huh we had been married for years 19 years or whatever it was yeah we already had all of our it doesn't get rid of jealousy but no no no but you're a little bit more secure in your relationship we we had a, no, we were more secure.
We were, we were more secure and we were more skilled in our handling of relationships. That is a huge thing. We were more skilled in how to handle a relationship.
Sometimes it's not that, that no matter how long you've been together, that can be an issue, but an issue but how knowing how to deal with and work within a relationship and make it work that's that's the difference and and honestly it would be damn hard to be i i honestly can't envision being new in a relationship and new in the lifestyle no i can't either we we we we've said it before if you did the worst thing could have happened was all those years and i was like hey let's do this let's do this if you said yes all those years way earlier that'd been a bad thing so do we have all the answers no we don't shall we have we we actually way over time okay i think he does no i'm kidding yeah no shit only on tuesdays get it tuesday recording okay all.
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