During our trip to Podcast-a-Palooza Encore (PCAP Encore), we were fortunate enough to interview a local Dallas, TX FemmeDom, Misstress Montana! We sat down with her in her dungeon and talk about myriad topics such as:The business of being a Dominatrix!The psychology of domination!Balancing her kinky and personal lives!How to get into being a world class FemmeDom!And so much more!Feel free to contact Mistress Montana at MistressMontana.com!As always, thanks for listening!Be sure to , RATE, REVIEW! We appreciate any and all feedback!Check out our show and MANY others on FullSwapRadio!How to stay in-touch with us:Email: thesuitelifepodcast@gmail.comFollow us here for info on upcoming LIVE episodes:Instagram: @thesuitelifepodcastTwitter: @suitelifepodFacebook: Livin the Suite Life (Tryst Loq Suitelife)Don t forget to to the Livin the Suite Life Podcast YouTube Channel!
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Living the Sweet Life is a podcast intended for mature audiences only. We'll be using sexually explicit language while discussing many different adult themes. So if you're under the age of 18, please stop listening. Also, please know that our thoughts and opinions should not be taken as professional advice. We're here to answer your questions about the swinger lifestyle.
From newbies to longtime swingers, or if you're just curious, we hope to engage you all and to encourage a sex-positive discussion. Now that we've got that out of the way, make yourself comfortable and join us in episode 57 of living the sweet life she is my beautiful sexy co-host and wife the lovely trist and he's my sexy chocolate husband lock i'm trying baby i'm trying to make you proud every single day i wake up i think to myself how can I be a sexier chocolatier version of Locke?
I don't know because you're pretty hot right now. Thanks, babe. Well, you are one smoking pot of caramel cookie delight also. A sundae. That's right. With some fudge on it. Ooh, I'll spread some fudge on you, babe. Well, again, thank you all for joining us in this pre-recorded version of living the sweet life. We typically do this live every other Sunday, but this time we did something a little special that we wanted to share with you guys.
episode 57 is going to be an interview with mistress montana that's right so while we were away at pcap uh encore in dallas texas tris set up a nice little meet and greet little interview session with mistress montana while we were in town and we here to tell you it was a lot of fun it was a lot of fun i would again i am so thankful that mistress montana didn't think that i was some type of weird stalker so thank you for actually answering my email back that's right that's right so we're going to give you guys a little bit of uh intro to the uh interview but let's knock out some housekeeping real quick feel free to email us at the sweet life podcast at gmail.com follow us on instagram at the sweet life podcast and follow us on twitter at sweet life pod uh for all of my wonderful sweet talkers who could not join us live in the suite feel free to jump over to any podcast catcher to listen to the podcast um you know iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, all the major players and some of the small ones as well.
And while you're there, please subscribe, rate, review. We love all the feedback. We love all the appreciation. Well, we appreciate all the feedback and we appreciate all the compliments and all of the advice that some people might give.
So feel free to share that stuff and uh if you want to be a sweet talker next time jump over to the youtube channel living the sweet life podcast and uh subscribe while you're there uh hit the notification bell and then you'll be notified every time that we go live you can jump in the suite you can give us feedback and it's a lot of fun i promise you and you get to see the stuff that trish wears yeah absolutely that's my favorite part it's my favorite part too see the worst part about doing a pre-recorded show is that we're sitting here in like our pajamas pretty much like we got hoodies on it's not sexy but it's okay you can't see us no that's right that's right so next time next time and we will be live very soon but uh so let's get into it so we arrived to dallas and literally get off the plane that's right we drop off our things also in sweatpants also in sweatpants and hoodies we drop off our things well actually i had on a i had on a sexy like cat suit oh that's right you did you got i did i i i tried to look a little bit cute for the interview even though we were flying in and uh we dropped off our stuff said hi to uh kate at pcap and we were gone to the interview so that's right um we on our way to the interview you know going through any type of last minute notes we arrive to the dungeon so we're on our way to the dungeon and guys i'm like my first thought was like okay we're going to a dungeon when we arrive it's basically a residential uh complex yeah it looks like a little condo um apartment area like little mini condos.
Right. So I'm like, okay, so there's a dungeon. It's like a dungeon here somewhere. Right. It's a dungeon here somewhere. So we arrive on time to our appointment and Mrs. Montana opens the door.
And she looks like she should just be standing there holding a plate of warm cookies she's just such a nice little wholesome woman but then when we sit down and she starts you know letting us know how she roll oh my god like what a badass absolutely she's completely fire like she fire and a firecracker like all in one she's she's a gorgeous woman well put together she's very pretty her house milk well the the dungeon smelled amazing as lock uh quoted itself um and basically the dungeon when you first go in it is a dungeon so in my head i thought that it was going to be like crazy stuff like hanging from the ceilings and all of these things um no it looked like a apartment basically right right yeah i agree 100 so when you step in it looks like you know uh a normal apartment kind of setup you got a kitchen dining room living room and like an office and i think this is kind of where she conducts a lot of business um what we found out later uh was that the dungeon was a part of this this apartment complex setup but i i like this setup though because then if i'm a client right when you come in it's not like oh crazy you know like oh i just have to like get oh it's about to happen right now like that anxiety first when you first come in, right?
It's like you come in, it's warm. Like it has that warm feel. Okay, cool. You feel kind of like at home. You can kind of relax a little bit. And then you go into the dungeon. Right, yeah. It's like it makes you let your guard down. Yeah, absolutely. Or you can say it the other way. It relaxes you. It relaxes you.
It puts you in another kind of mental space it's like a transition yes it's all about balance and transition you transitioning from let's put yourself in one of the in the position of one of these guys or people or couple or whatever it is and you're coming from your stressful ass job and you're just ready to get this thing started right so you go and you leave all your work behind and you come in and there's the relaxing spot spot. Right. Absolutely.
And just like she says that this place is everything about her, everything about all this situation is hiding in plain sight. Absolutely. That was that's exactly how she explained it. And and that's what it was.
It's hiding in plain sight and everything looks completely normal so it was off all about the transition from work to this calm space to the next transition to this bdsm to the actual dungeon but we'll get there again this is just a quick intro of the interview um what were your thoughts of the interview tris i love this interview yeah like i thought i had a really good time at the interview um i got a lot of uh a lot of thoughts that i was still trying to think about kind of it cleared up in like just sitting down talking to her right and it wasn't more so me just asking her a bunch of questions it was just like as she was, I was like, okay, this is like making more sense, especially the parts of relationships, right?
Like in a lifestyle, we always talk about having a connection or, you know, connecting with someone, having what I call the vibe, their energy and all of those things. I never thought about that as far as in being a dom, right? that she explained it that I have to have a connection with them and be able to understand, like, where they're coming from, like, why they want what they want and make sure that we have a connection.
And I thought that was different because I'm thinking, like, oh, somebody calls and they make this appointment, then it's all good. And that's not necessarily the case.
case it's like do we have a connection to where it makes sense for you for me to be in that position basically right no yeah yeah i agree with that 100 and that was a another takeaway a similar takeaway from the interview that i received was that it was so much more so much deeper than just bending someone over smacking them on the ass and telling them you know getting them to say yes ma'am and shit like that get over here right it was so much more than that um she as you'll hear uh she'll she's going to talk a lot about like the mental aspect and the mental games that you play and the psychology behind where do people's kinks come from and she's very invested in that and i gotta say that's i guess um i have so much appreciation and respect for her for doing like the hard work yes uh to to actually get into the psyche of her clients and just treating people as people right and that was a good takeaway as well like you know these are not just people that you just come in and you know let me whoop your ass it's also treating a person as a person right and kind of understanding you know their kinks and what it is that they like and going from there right so okay so that's a that's a little bit of foreshadowing of to who uh mistress montana is let's talk about some stuff that we because they're going to hear a lot of this stuff in the interview right so let's talk about some stuff that we did not cover let's talk about let's talk about the dungeon let's talk about because we didn't get an opportunity to look at the dungeon before the interview we looked at the dungeon after the interview and damn it i wish we would have took our mics in there yeah so again the whole thing was hiding in plain sight again you you see the living space the office space and then hiding in plain sight behind one of these closed doors was a dungeon yes go ahead and describe some of that so when you go into the dungeon it's locked and um she opens the door up and it is fire there's like a queen chair in there a throne it's a throne and guys we have some pictures we're going to post like with it like probably when the episode drops on friday just so you can see some of the pictures of the dungeon but yeah it's a throne in there and i'm thinking that throne it's like you put your boot down on there and the guy just lays at the the bottom i don't know at the base at the base it seems like that that's what that would be that's what you wanted to be i think so i was like i want one of them chairs but so um so yeah so there's a like a throne in there with like her and dishes on it and then in the inside there's like a there's basically like um what i would call like a resistance, like more of like a beam, support beams, support beams is inside the room.
I mean, thick and thick pieces of support beams. And what it is for is basically you can basically suspend somebody's whole body like, like as if levitate them off the ground. You're doing a lot of hand movements like people can see us. They can't see us.
I understand that, but I'm getting getting excited i know you are you can do superman in there and actually like levitate somebody in in that room and it that was crazy so that was amazing though all right so from the one of the beams across the ceiling hanging from that beam was a cable like a metal cable with a like a t-bar where someone could grip the right end of it and the left end of the bar or she could tie you to that bar and mechanically raise your hands above your head right yeah so imagine that and then maybe four feet behind you is another setup with the beam going across the ceiling with another mechanical cable and another, you know, three to four foot wide bar, spreader bar kind of situation that your ankles could be clamped to.
So what Trish was describing is that when she pulls the lever on both of those, you could be levitated in the air yeah completely suspended in the air and then she has total control over whatever is going to happen at that point i'm talking about bang pow zoom yes spank whatever you need whatever it is she has total control over there i mean and then the gate in the inside she had like a section that was a cage basically like a gate if you had like one of those gates on your back door, like people that have like the key and it's the iron gate, but it's up for us in the bedroom and inside that gate, she can lock you inside of it and keep you in there.
It was like a cage. It was like a cage for however long, I mean, you need to be in there. It was pretty, it was pretty cool.
And and then of course she had on the wall she had every single implement you can imagine yes different type of floggers all sorts of floggers paddles that provide different sensations uh the very thin uh floggers those provide the what sting this thing and then the thicker ones she said they provide what other kind of thud thud yeah so it's a different feeling of a thud and a sting and i learned that i was like oh okay that makes sense so different type of floggers have different type of sensations depending on what you want and she said that certain clients know the particulars of what they want and what they don't want so they would ask um and she would oblige if they ask if they don't ask then she gets to figure out what they like which one you want and she likes doing that part yes i mean she has so many different i call them toys um you call them toys or are they called toys i mean they may be called they're just toys but i call them toys i mean it was it was great i was in there like a kid in the candy store like oh my gosh what's this do oh my gosh what's this yeah but yeah that that dungeon was legit all sorts of uh wooden paddles um clips what are those clothes pins clothes pins masks different type of masks yeah ball gags dildos and at certain point you know when we were giving the tour i actually had my hands up on on those uh the spreader bar just for an Thank you.
playing ball gags, dildos. And at some point, you know, when we were giving the tour, I actually had my hands up on the spreader bar just for an example. And Mistress Montana got a little excited and she was showing us how it goes and what she does and how she goes through her rhythm with her clients. And she started like rubbing on me, kind of teasing me, which was extremely hot. Mistress Montana, if you're listening, I'll be your subject anytime. Almost.
So I'm going to go ahead and go't want none of that yeah she was she got a little excited um and so did i she was kind of like rubbing on my chest and my back and telling me you know asking me if i was a good boy and all some some shit like that i can't remember if it was good boy i don't know she said that but anyway it was hot she was rubbing up and down him he got hot he had a what happened to you babe i had a chubby you did you did he was like oh oh okay no it was cool it was a lot of fun.
But no, she was very, very enthusiastic. Yes. She was very intelligent, very sharp. She was a lot of fun, man. She was a lot of fun. She seems like one of those people you could talk to her about anything. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, really cool. But yeah, the dungeon was a lot of fun, guys. Yeah, man.
And again, what you're going to hear is that tris got a lot of information um about you know her new little fetishes and everything exactly but lock forgot about one piece remember you talked about the noise the noise part because it is in a condo type of thing right so how did she say that she handles the noise what did she say she got gags for that yeah she's like i got gags for that yeah and she turns the music up loud yeah yes she was like because like how do you handle the the screaming right because i'm sure it's like at a certain point these people are like screaming their asses off right but yeah she has a solution you got a problem she has a solution but no we're not going to take up too much more time we want you guys to sit back relax enjoy the interview yes mistress montana talk to you guys later bye so ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining us in this episode of Living the Sweet Life.
As we mentioned in our introduction, we are having some fun with the lovely Mistress Montana. So let us get you caught up real quick, right? In the past few months, Tristan and I have been exploring the world of BDSM. We kind of started off with what, babe, like ropes? Shabari, ropes.
Yeah, that's right's right we started off with the ropes then we moved up to like floggers and little cute little paddles and then we started to dig a little deeper so we took a couple of online bdsm personality quizzes and a couple of uh sexy bdsm themed uh nights out with our unicorn friend hallie yes right and we've also been to a few fetish parties oh right i forgot about that i forgot about that we did some fetish ball stuff but then um you know we started to find out some stuff about miss trist right that she has another side of her that she wants to explore that i'm still trying to figure it out still trying to figure it what that is still trying to figure it out and that is why we're here today trist uh reached out to the wonderful beautiful miss mistress montana i shot my shot you shot your shot and you made it you made it and uh mistress montana was so gracious enough to make some time out of her busy schedule to sit down with us and uh help guide a young aspiring fem dom so say hello to the audience mistress please hello i hope everybody's doing well that's right that's right we're so glad to have you.
Really do appreciate you taking the time. And we literally just got off the airplane and you got this place smelling all great and wonderful. We probably smell like travel. But thank you. So you we've done a little bit of research on you again. Trish found you and really great that she did.
You've been in the business for 29 years 30 actually 30 oh oh man that's awesome that's fantastic has it been fun the whole time no okay okay fair enough um you know well think about it even if you have a job you absolutely love can can you say, has it been fun all the time? And it's usually the answer, if you're truthful, is no. You know, when I first started off, it was super exciting. And then you have kind of ebbs and flows. You have like, okay, what am I going to do, right?
Am I going to just do this or am I going to expand and what does that look like? And, you know, what do I, you get to that point of what do I want to be when I grow up? Right. You know, I mean, because you don't want to do the same thing over and over and over. So you have to kind of reimagine what does that look like? Um, does it look like that I have multiple dungeons? Does it look like I have other people who work for me? You know, and I've kind of ebbed and flowed out of all of that.
I've had people that have worked for me. I've, you know, and gosh, at first that was almost like, like being a babysitter, right? You know, I mean, and then I kind of learned, all right, because at each step, everything you do, you learn a little bit more about yourself. You learn a little bit more about your business. You learn more about your clients and you have to sit down. And for me, I had to sit down and kind of go, okay, I need to look at this from a business perspective, right?
You know, because this is a business while I enjoy what I do. It's still a business that you are paid for a service, but you are paid for a block of time. And that's the time period in which you are dominating them.
That's when they give that control over to you but before that you know customer service still is applicable you know being nice to somebody i mean do you want to actually call and spend 360 dollars to someone who's like talking down to you being nasty to you doesn't want to hear what you want to explore you're like right maybe i'll take my money someplace else, you know, because find out like how did you know that this is what you wanted to do was this something that you took from your personal life and you just found like a kinky side of you with a partner and you said you know what I can make some money doing this shit no I mean I know that's lots of people's story and I really thought about it long and hard because I love history.
I love reading history. I was always fascinated by Geisha, right? Okay. Right, right. You know, and most people don't realize that they're highly, highly educated women. You know, they know the arts. They know politics. They could play instruments.
They were supposed to be not only beautiful, right, and very sexually adept, but at the same time, they were supposed to be able to have a conversation with a man, right, which at that time period, you know, they were considered to be, you know, much higher than women, and women weren't really thought of very highly.
But they they needed to be educated well enough just like a man was okay to be able to have you know dialogue with them right and um and I remember reading about that and just being fascinated by you know not only how they had to look but all of the skills and stuff that they had and how incredibly smart that they were and um and then I just kind of was going along through life and going to college and I opened up a business of my own.
And if you've ever opened up your own business, you know what a cash strain that is. And so I was thinking I saw an ad in the Dallas Observer for a phone sex operator. Nice. Yes. And it was phone sex, but it was domination too, right? And so the lady that I worked for, she worked in, I believe it was North Carolina. She was out of North Carolina. And I had extra phone lines because I actually had a business that was running out of my house.
So I started doing that, and people who were calling me were calling for domination. I'm like, hmm. Wow. Okay, so this is like back in the day. I went to the library. So, yeah, so, you know, to kind of look some stuff up because I was thinking, what in the world are they looking for? What is this about? And I really kind of started educating myself on the type of client that liked Domination. Because it's not just your everyday Joe Blow.
I mean, they are actually more educated, you know, than the average person. You know, it's not just beating somebody. You know, it is a lot more psychological than what people, you know, think. I mean, a lot of people just think it's like that cartoon figure that they see on TV or that commercial or something, and it's not.
You're delving into people's psyche a lot more than you can imagine so i kind of just started looking into that and trying to figure out what it is that they were looking for uh-huh and you know and and just from lots of books i read you know i would sit there and listen to what they say and i would listen truly listen right i would take in all of that information and then i would kind of parrot it back to them and they're like oh you're so good you know how did you know that because most people when they're talking don't realize that they're revealing things you know if you're listening then you can pick up on you know different key points and so I would sit there and and do that and so then she ended up moving to Texas and opening up a business and she asked me if I wanted wanted to work for and I thought yeah I could do that part-time you know do my business on the side and work for a part-time I remember walking into that first session and I'm going oh my god he's naked you know and I'm thinking what do I do you know so and I just kind of followed her and what I realized is that that, you know, all the curiosity I had about, you know, not only sexuality, but intelligence, you know, and the co-mingling of those two together, you know, sexual intelligence and how to use that and how to use that to manipulate to get your way.
you know um all of that was interesting to me and so i realized that all of that kind of came into play because I found myself going super power do you use that like when you go to the mall and you know just kind of like okay so I know what we're doing after this interview is over so how how do you like how was your first experience how do you think scary yeah she said she saw the naked man and was like well i mean think about it i mean you know you don't just on every you don't walk in the door and someone's there naked hey yeah you know i mean so i'm not a doctor you know so it wasn't something that was just normal everyday you know practice to walk in and see somebody I'll see you next time.
naked hey yeah you know I mean so I'm not a doctor you know so it wasn't something that was just normal everyday you know practice to walk in and see somebody on their hands and knees you know and so you're sitting there going okay you know but also you know it was it was super exciting all right um it was exciting to me because I remember thinking to myself you didn't sell drugs you weren't a prostitute prostitute. You kept your clothes on the whole entire time.
You smacked his ass a few times and told him what a piece of shit he was because that's what he wanted. And I'm thinking, you know, start the car. I know he's going to want the money back, right? And I remember thinking, I just felt so elated.
I'm thinking, oh my God, I made all that money and I didn't have to do anything and it just felt like it just flowed right yeah so you know sometimes whenever you just kind of find that thing that niche it's by accident yeah and and how you figure it out is because you're just like that didn't even feel like work i mean that was just like you know i can just walk in and be myself so this is the full time this is yes you make your living that's awesome yeah that's fantastic living the dream well i have another business that i i have and they're very very busy too there you go um so and as i i'm finding that i'm getting like stretched thinner and thinner it's like that twister game oh you know you got a hand on blue and elbow on yellow you know i'm gonna toe over here on orange you know so you know and you're trying to kind of hold it all together but you know I have heard it said that the busiest person in the world is a person you should ask to do something because they will figure out a way to get it done yep yeah that's a good one yeah I like that one that's kind of like my wife um so in like the lifestyle we have like different terms for like things um is there terms i guess in the dominatrix world like we hear the term all the time like femdom and things like that like do you guys have any terms oh god there's tons of okay you could write a book on and i, people call me and I'm like, what does that mean now?
Because every time you turn around, they're coming up with something new, right? Yes, right. You know, and instead of just, like, saying female-led relationship, then instead they'll give you all the initials. Or cock and ball torture, CBT, you know. Oh, okay. You know, nipple torture. I mean, there's tons and tons and tons of them. Yeah. And it's like, I think somebody has a little job out there that just comes up with some sort of new little, you know. And I'm like, what does that one mean?
You know? It was like, okay. Right. So do you take any of this into your personal relationships or is this strictly just work? You don't, like home is vanilla, like, or. I'm a hybrid. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I would say I'm a hybrid. Because, so, the vanilla men that I date think that I'm really kinky. The kinky men that I date think I'm really vanilla. You know? So, you know, but I think a well-balanced person is somebody who blends both of those. Okay. Because you are never all or nothing. Nothing.
All right. Yes. You might be a woman, you might be a man, but there's a feminine side to you and there's a masculine side to you. And your job is to integrate those two, right? Yeah. And to have that balance. And I think that that's kind of what I've strived to do is just to have that balance between the two.
A lot of people, you know, the ones who are super vanilla, who think I'm kinky you know they get over it pretty quickly they uh you know the ones who are you know um really kinky a lot of times what they tend to be looking for is somebody who will do this 24 7 right okay and and to me it's okay, well then you just need to be a personal slave because you know, I, I still want to go to baseball games and football games. I still want to go out to dinner and I don't want it to have to all be around.
Okay. Do you have your vibrating butt plug in? Do you have on your panties? Do you have, you know, it's like, because to me it feels like taking your work home.
would be like you being um an accountant all right right and you're invited to a party and lo and behold what they really want you to do is sit upstairs and do people's taxes no you know i mean right so i get it you know i mean it's just like there's a point to where you know i mean don't get me wrong it's very much who i am it's my personality i have a strong personality i have a very dominant personality i don't mind if someone asks me a question telling you what i believe and apparently that's not really acceptable and you know and you know because they're expecting you to soft pedal it and just you know and i'm thinking oh they asked they wanted right yeah you know so i mean well my personality works really really this realm, right?
And in everyday life, it doesn't always because people aren't used to so much. I mean, it's changing, but women being dominant forces, right? And if you are a strong, dominant woman, then a lot of times they just think of you automatically as a bitch. Yes. Yes. You know, I mean. Can you relate to that? Yes. You know, so, you know, because the same thing could be said by a man, right.
But that would just be, he, you know, he's a go-getter, he's, you know, you know, and they have all these great little, you know, you know, words for them, right. And you, yeah, you're just a bitch. Yeah. You know, I mean, and that's it. That's it. It just, boom, stopped right there, you know. So I think that, I think things are changing. I think that, you know, but it's like anything else. I mean, it's slow. Change isn't something that happens overnight. People really don't like change.
That's the truth of it. And it doesn't even matter if it's good change. Right. You know, and it's hard for us. I mean, think about whenever something might happen in your life, if you didn't decide, I want to go buy this house, right? Right. You know, and instead they're saying, okay, in that domain, and we're taking your home, we're going to give you the, and you're like, huh? You know, right. Right. Yeah.
I mean, I find that in the reason why I reached out and was trying to find someone to talk to, because we've been in the lifestyle for eight years now, almost nine. Yeah. Oh, nine years now. October just came. Yeah. yeah so nine years now and I have not met in person or anyone that has been a femdom like no one I've met men that have slaves and all these other things or their partner I mean we've even been to a party and that party was like insane.
I've seen things that I've like was never seen before and would never forget. But I have never met a female. And I was like, I want to talk to somebody who's a female to be able to explain from their perspective, like what this is.
How did you do this and how do you do it because when you say that it it hits the impression with people to think that it's all about like you just degrading somebody or tell somebody you know sit down do this and it's a part of it but it's just like very small right and it's a very small part of it it's what I'm learning recently I'm still like very new to like learning this part um but that was like why I felt like that is important to kind of like hear that was like why I felt like that is important to kind of like hear that side like how do you do it as females did you have a difficult time um whenever you reached out to different like dominatrix and stuff getting them to respond to you yeah they didn't respond at all like I don't and that's why I all women, right?
Exactly. We think that we would be, you know, trying to help each other up. Yeah. But for some reason, you know, men are better at, you know, giving a man a hand up than women are about doing that with themselves. Yeah.
And they get catty and they seem to have this mindset that if you have something, I can't right right you know and I think this is an abundant universe I think that there is plenty enough to go around for everybody absolutely absolutely I'm gonna ask you this so what is it inside of you that you're feeling that that pulls you towards this so recently because like I mentioned we've been in lifestyle for nine years but i've had other thoughts that i want to do like i want to step on someone it's like a thing we were watching um hump fest one year like so when covet first started assuming we're talking about whales no no just making sure are we on national geographic are we someplace else okay no hump fest is um it's an annual um amateur pornography uh erotic video okay it's a whole bunch of like short videos okay yeah and one of them and it was a very short part of this whole clip but i saw a lady with these patent leather black heels on and she stepped on him like pressed down on his chest and i was like i want to know and it was like that thought just kept coming up and kept festering and then i'll mention it to like one of my friends and I'm like well you can do it on me it's like I don't know yet I need to figure out what this is like why is that like I'm intrigued by this thing that I wanted and it's not a sexual thing at all it has nothing to do with me trying to have sex with you it's just that I want to do this thing and I want you to be pleased by it is that weird and they're like no i'll try it anytime you want and i haven't done it yet because i'm like i don't know so what do you think of that that fantasy um and her asking her her saying that it's not like a sexual thing but it's kind of like she just wants she wants them to be it.
Is that something common that you hear? I would say, well, see, my clients are on the flip side of that, right? Okay. So my clients are the ones that are calling me, and they're not wanting me to necessarily be pleased by walking on them, right? Yeah. Because they're paying me. Yes. They just want to get what it is that they need because they need something specific for them, right? So let's say it's flipped around and you were submissive and you just needed someone to walk on you, right?
And, you know, it usually starts somewhere in your psyche, a childhood, right? I have a client who likes to do wrestling, but the thing is that he doesn't want to wrestle with a person. I am quicksand.
and where this came from is that whenever he would come home from church on sundays as a little kid he would watch all of these tarzan movies okay and remember tarzan always rescued the girl or the guy from the quicksand right and they were struggling and they couldn't get out they kept getting pulled down or whatever and something about him in his mind you know took that into kind of like almost a sexual kind of thing it's like you know they're in there and they can't get out and somebody could be doing all sorts of things to them and you know i mean they kind of twist it or i have clients um who are into bondage and you know and they remember watching these really old movies where you know um the indians would tie up the cowboys in the tree, right?
And they were helpless. And maybe one of the women or whatever found them and was helping them get out or, you know, I mean, and that type of thing. Or foot fetish, you know, clients would say, you know, I was sitting there and I could see my teacher's feet underneath the desk.
And she would take her shoe and it would kind of dangle on her foot and he goes you know and they're usually young they're usually at the age of around puberty okay whenever you know the wind could blow and you get a heart on and all of a sudden you get a sears catalog and she's gone on panties and broad it's like yes you know kind of thing right or you fantasized about your babysitter because she was older and she was hot and, you know, that kind of thing.
Those things right there kind of turn into it. But, you know, for me, I can kind of take it a step further because I have clients who come in and they just want to be whipped, right? I mean, you know, and they even do it to themselves where, you know. And what it always reminded me of, because like I told you, I'm kind of a history person, is, you know, whenever you go back to some of those occult, well, we call them occultic now, but, you know, religious sex, right?
And that's how they would do penance, you know, for their impure thoughts and stuff like that. And the funny thing is I've always found myself, because I'm kind of a believer in past lives, to me it kind of explains a whole lot of things. And, you know, and especially if you bring certain things from past lives that you don't really know or quite understand. You know, so for me, it could be something just as easy as in a past life.
Maybe, you know, you were, I mean, let's go back to Egyptian times.
Maybe, you know, somebody had fallen down on the ground because they're exhausted and tired and half dead and you stepped on top of them and said get up and work slave you know I mean and you know I mean and it's not it doesn't mean that you have to be that exact person you were I mean I think every time that we reincarnate we evolve okay and we become better and that's the whole purpose of it is to learn lessons and stuff but I think that you also kind of bring back just pieces of that and you know and it explains to me so many times when you're drawn to something that you can't figure out why you know I mean it's like I'm sorry that's a little weird I just want to like trample all over you throw your cock up here and I just want to you know you know so I mean but like I said I mean if you had things things like that, that you participated in the past, even if they were in different contexts, right, you know, it could explain why it is that you're drawn to certain things now.
And I think also that people underestimate the intensity or the intoxication of power. Okay. You know, because a lot of times we just don't really realize how we're not feeling empowered. And whenever you take the reins and you grab a hold of that and you're telling somebody something and they go, yes, ma'am, you know, I mean, then you, you feel it. I mean, and it is, it is very much an equal symbiotic, you know, type of relationship. Yes. And that's what makes it really good. It's like sex.
You can have sex with somebody and they're just laying there doing nothing. And it's like this table. You're like, oh, yeah, that's fun. Right? Yes. But if the other person is into it as much as you are, it is a great experience. Yes. Okay. So if you have a client and you have you, right? So you have somebody who likes to be trampled, and here you are, and you've got him, like, locked up, and his cock in this little cock box, and it's right there, and you're like, ooh.
And, you know, you take your high heel, and you step on it, and he's like, oh, yes. That's what I'm talking about. You know, and you're like, yes, you know. I mean, and then you take your heel, and you're crushing it on the tip of his cock, you know, like this.
And he's like, i mean then you're sitting there so you are in it right you so it's symbiotic you're both experiencing the flip side of the coin you you're getting that same experience okay but from different perspectives and those perspectives come together and join and that makes an incredible session wow wow so uh what you were describing also was okay you gave examples of um the childhood like the teacher with the heel uh the shoes swinging off yeah how things start for people how it starts right so it's definitely it sounds like a part of what you do is like almost like therapy it's like they're not only coming in for like you know this punishment or whatever it is but the session but they're sharing a lot of their background and information with you as well all right so i've always done quote-unquote therapy sessions right where i would be the therapist um and and this is also what interests me is someone's brain what makes it tick what makes people want what they want yeah you know because if you can figure out that yeah then you got the key to the kingdom right and any kingdom right it's kind of like nlp or something like that you can you can control people because people are automatic and they don't usually know what they're doing they're just kind of automatically things.
Yeah. So if you're on the lookout for things that they say, things that they're doing, things that are going on, right, then you can actually, sorry to say this, folks, but manipulate somebody into doing what you want them to do. So the mind, how the mind works, how the mind connects with the body. You know, I always say, if I can capture your brain, your body will follow in an instant. You know, because it's, sex is mental. People think sex is physical. It's not. Sex is mental.
If you got them turned on up here, their body is like, I'm with you, right? Yeah. So, you know, I've taken lots of psychology classes and I've always, you know, done role plays and stuff where I'm a therapist. Once COVID hit, that went to a whole new level. I mean, I was just like, hmm, maybe I should go back to school. But then I thought, no, because most people really don't want to fix their problems. They just want to come in and whine and bitch about them for an hour.
And then I'd have to slap them, and, you know, it was like, the real dom in me would start to come out. So I was like, no, I couldn't do that. But you know, what, what people don't understand is that, all right, therapy, the reason people go back to therapy for years and years is because people do not feel like they get enough time to talk about themselves. They don't get to express themselves. So I went to an interview class whenever I was very, very young, right. Just getting out of college.
And what they said is that if you will sit back and just listen, right. And let them talk and let them talk about all about the job and everything else. And, you know, and then whenever they break, ask them a couple more questions and keep them talking. What they will do is they will impart all these good feelings onto you because they haven't had the chance to really talk about themselves. Right. And so whenever they leave, they may not know much about you, but they will feel really good.
You know? And so I thought, I'll try that. And I added 10 interviews. I got seven offers. I thought, okay, that works. So, you know, if you take that same premise, right. Whenever COVID hit, you know, people were angry. People, I mean, they tried to not think that they were, but it's kind of like the rug and you keep sweeping those rocks. Eventually that shit pops out the other side because there's only so big of a rug.
So, you know, people would come in and they would really, I mean, they didn't even want a session. I mean, they would just want to talk. Yeah.
You know and it's just like okay you know about things are going on and things that are happening and you know so so yeah it kind of turned into a lot of that but you have more so people who are into spanking um uh they want to do therapy i guess you would say right okay you know where you come in and they're talking to you and maybe, maybe they have a role play that their boss has sent them there, you know, because, you know, they're really important to the company, but they're just not focused and on task, you know, and so I'm talking with them because I'm hired by the company and, you know, I have some very, you know, kind of unorthodox type methods, but I find them to be very effective.
I like effective i like that i like that that was actually one of my questions too like what do you what is the most common ask of your your clients um i would either as far as role play goes yeah um so as far as role play goes i would say therapist is like number one this is a huge And then after that, I'm usually either a babysitter, you know, or because people have fantasies, right? So they're kind of reenacting that. I've been a Mrs. Robinson before.
So, you know, where, you know, my daughter's boyfriend came by to bring something over.
And it's like, oh, but Jason, you're just such a cute boy you know yeah mrs robertson yeah i've been an irs agent before um yeah i mean that's a really bend you over kind of experience you know because you know you're gonna get a yes out of whatever you say so do you go um do you go is there like a script they give you like an idea of what they want to do or, and then you kind of say yes or no, and then adapt it to your, to what you want because you're in charge, right? Right. How does that go?
I'm pretty good at just kind of rolling off the cuff. Okay. And, you know, if you tell me like a particular character that I'm supposed to be, then I pretty much have it in my mind how that person would act and behave and what they would say, right? So I do have some people who come in and they have a script. And usually, and I've actually had somebody come in with like five pages. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to memorize this. But what I would do is I would go through it.
And some people get very upset about this. Some dominatrixes do. You're not going to tell me how to run my, you know, my thing. But what I realized is that, that if someone took the time to write out five pages, then obviously it's important to them. So I sit down before we start the session, I'll read it over. And there's usually, if you're paying enough attention, key points that are repeated, right? And a lot of times there'll be phrases.
So, you know, even when you're having sex with somebody, you learn that if you do it this way, if you move a certain way, if you say a certain thing, you know, that's, that's the money shot, right? And it's the same thing. You have the same thing in domination. So there'll be key things that people need to hear, right? In order for it to, to just click with them.
So if you if you're really I mean I would say that probably the biggest problem with a lot of people in this business is that they have this self-inflated importance of who they are do you know who I am no no bitch I don't you know and I think it's like but you seem to know who you are really well know, so I mean, I think that if you could step away from that ego part of it, right, and look at it like this is somebody who's coming in.
And not only are they paying you an exceptionally amount, good money, right, but they're needing something. They're here because they need something from you.
And if you can kind of delve into that and figure out what it is then you'll have a client for life you know because you will be able to hit on those key points and what they're needing because they're not coming in just to say beat me I mean if that worked then they'd be you know beating them themselves right you know they're coming in because they need to hear you say something they need you to something. They need you to be in some sort of character.
You know, maybe you caught them reading their dad's magazines or something like that. Or, you know, I mean, and a lot of times you're actually reacting, you know, or re-enacting, you know, certain things that have happened, you know, to them. So how do you get potential clients? Like, how does that work? They just. Word of mouth. Word of mouth or. Yeah. Sure. You're out mowing the yard going.
my god you need to see this dominatrix cycle yesterday and they're like when are you moving and johnny you can never play with that kid again you know so yeah word of mouth usually is not the case um so i advertise on places like um you know you've got eros you've got a dickie virgin you've got different like um uh advertising venues that are for domination okay um those have those have gotten less and less because sex is more prevalent and somehow or another they think that sex is more okay because of course you're just you know some scary crazy ass bitch who's you know whipping people right you know so it's really that's kind of odd but um you know like I said there's probably a handful of like um different like links and places that you can research online and stuff so for example if you were a client and you're going to be in Texas or Dallas and you might say uh Dallas dominatrix or something like that or you might say Dallas dominatatrix spanking or you know whatever you might what your kind of buzzword is or what you might be into or something like that and then you would have all these different things that would populate okay so um you know you have all these different um directories that come up and then you can kind of look and search through uh different things and it's like anything else it's um in a weird way it's like dating right because I mean you're reading their profile the things they have to say and you know I think I said this before but like attracts like right so you know because I can tell you if I was a man I'd be looking through there I'd be like nope no oh hell no you know kind of like okay that might work because people have a certain look that they're attracted to, right?
They have certain verbiage that they're attracted to. You know, I mean, if someone's like talking and you're kind of reading it, you're like, what are they trying to say? You know, then you're sitting there thinking, I don't know if that would work for me, you know? And then let's say that you get them on the telephone and, you know, and you're thinking, oh, this is all great. This, I like what they have to say. I like this. I like that. I like all the pictures. And then they start talking.
It's like, hi there. Yeah, my name is. And I'm like, oh. I mean, so you never know what it is that, you know, it's like finding your mate, right? It's like, how did that attraction happen, you know? So a lot of times, I mean, God, a lot of times, I have people who call me and they're like, ask me kind of questions.
I would rather you ask me lots of stuff up front because I don't want to waste your money and my time, you know, because, you know, if you're coming in uneducated and you don't know anything about what you're doing, you know, and you end up leaving cause you're upset, you know, and you've spent $360 for an hour time, you know, and you didn't get what you wanted because you just thought that, you know, so I don't want that to happen.
I mean, like I said, it doesn't feel good for me for someone to leave and not enjoy their session. And I'm sure it doesn't feel good for somebody else to spend all that money and not gotten what you wanted. Right. Right. So I had a question, uh, along that same line. So Trish has a couple of friends who are offering to help her explore this side of her. So do friends make good practice? I don't find so. That's just my personal opinion. And I'll tell you why.
Because it's like mixing business and pleasure. Yes. So, you know, you can find that your friends might enjoy it a little bit more than you did. Like for you, it might be clinical exploration, right? You're just trying to find out how much pressure you can apply without popping it. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, um, you know, or whatever technique you're trying to, you know, hone in on. Right. But that person might be enjoying it a lot more. Right. Right.
And then they in turn might be sitting there thinking, oh yeah, oh yeah she's really you know because what you think you know is happening isn't always really what's happening do you ever watch the bachelor you know right after that after that date the woman's going oh my god it was fantastic he's so connected he was like I wasn't really feeling it I'm thinking how are these two people on the same day right and and so that's what I kind of find it's like okay because my friends are friends for a reason okay um I like them I enjoy their company but I am not attracted to them like that or I am not you know that kind of thing and so for me I just find that it doesn't really work yeah it just mix.
And oddly enough, you know, I can deal with a stranger so much better than I can somebody I know. Because I don't want to walk around and go, oh, yeah, yeah, I thought his penis a little turned to the left. And every time you sit down at a dinner party, you're thinking that, right? You know, yep, there's left turn, Rudy. You know, I mean, but it's like, and that happens.
I mean so you I just don't want to think of my friends like that I want to think of my friends as he's a great chess player oh my god he's so intelligent we can have these great conversations I want to relate to them on a different level than that I mean but we're already swingers we already had sex with a lot of our friends these aren't like vanilla friends that he's talking about but still I still find it weird for me this part of it like even though you know we can compartmentalize their life in their mind all the time okay so you will find that in your mind and it's different for everybody so like I just told you how it would be for me right yeah but you will find that in your mind in your mind, while maybe for you, you might find that swinging is on one level.
Right. Right. And you know, but this might feel different to you because it's not the same kind of exchange. Right. You know, I mean, you're doing something to them, but usually they're not going to get anything in return. Right. That makes sense. Yes.
Um, you know, and you might do it in a lifestyle completely different you might incorporate it into your swinging lifestyle or something but as far as I go I don't go in that direction at all so there's never any sex exchange yeah you know so for me I'm sitting there going that doesn't work and you know but other people compartmentalize it differently and for them it does work it's kind of like when you're sitting there talking about how you meet different people and all the different things.
You're not going, huh? Yeah. How does that work? You know, because it's hard for your brain to, I mean, but they're like, oh, yeah, this blends perfectly. And you're thinking, that doesn't blend at all. Right. Exactly. So, you know, each person just kind of works it in their life differently.
And I think that's the problem that I'm having well I saw it as a problem but you explained it perfectly it's just that I can we can do all the other things but this particular thing is like I have this like block up like I can't I don't see me doing that with you in that way right and I felt, I thought it was more of me just trying to figure out like how to broach like the subject altogether.
But I think it was just like, I will feel probably more comfortable doing this with somebody who is not in like my inner circle because I just, I don't know, I can't get past that block in my head. Right.
Well, part of it might be because you're because you're learning right yeah and you're learning and you're wanting to explore and and that is a lot of stumbling to get there right and you know and maybe you don't want that person to see you in that kind of light I mean I have clients who come in all the time who are married you know and I'm like why don't you do this with your wife I mean you've got a built-in dominatrix right I mean I know some of their wives and they're truly dominatrix right you know um and they rule the roost but they don't want them to see them that way right i mean because they have a dynamics already established yes of that relationship and they don't want to change the dynamics of that relationship and you explain that very well because on the flip side of that some of our friends was like won't you just try it on your husband it no.
Like, that is even more so of a block. That's a line of demarcation right there. Do not cross. I was like, no. I said, that's not the realm I want for us. Like, we have our own relationship. That's going to stay the way that it is. I was like, I don't want to do this part with him.
Well, and a lot of wives don't want to see their husbands as submissivesissives you know they just don't want to visualize the man that they're with like that because that's not what they signed up for when they got married that's not the kind of person that they've you know i'm saying yeah and there's nothing wrong with that yeah it's just that's why they seek out services someplace else because they're not comfortable with either being in the role of being the dominant or they're not comfortable with seeing their husband wear their panties you know I don't know.
someplace else because they're not comfortable with either being in the role of being the dominant or they're not comfortable with seeing their husband wear their panties you know right you know I mean it's just like and and that can be a devastating effect on a relationship yeah you know whenever you're trying to get someone to be something that they're not and whenever they signed up for this relationship that wasn't part of the package nobody brought that up right right so you know and you just aren't both growing in that kind of direction right so that's why clients reach out and see me but um you know but i i think that that's probably what's going on it's just that the relationship dynamics that you have with that person is already set up and established right and so it this is something outside of that that's not really something you're wanting to, you know, explore with them.
Especially when you're trying to get started. Because when you're trying to get started, you need to learn from somebody who knows more than you do. Yeah. And whenever they don't know any more than you do, and you're both just kind of floundering along, you know. It's like learning how to have sex. Yeah, it's like two 15-year-olds trying to, you know, where does this go? I can't surround your ankles. Still got my damn shoes and socks on. Right. It's a mess.
So in your dungeon, tell us a little bit about that. Tell us what kind of setup you have or what kind of implements you use. You mentioned like a cock constraint. I don't know what it's called. Like, what is it called? Cock box?
Cock it called talking about whenever you're about yeah yeah so yeah so the person lays underneath it right so if it was me i'd be laying if i was a man i'd be laying here okay you do have to have a cock for this so you'd be laying here the box goes over you the box separates like this oh think of it like magic you know how like and she gets salt in half kind of thing yes so the box separates so this side is here and it has like a half moon right okay and then their cock and their balls is up and then the other part of it shuts like this okay and so the little hole right here has balls that come out of it and a cock that uh- cool and it locks right and so it all locks shut and then on the side of the box it has hooks where their arms okay there so i can like sit down on that little box and say you know what i'm getting ready to do with this little thing here and it's it's twofold it's cock and ball torture it can be trampling you know like what you're kind of talking about it can be bondage I mean because yeah babe you're not going nowhere yeah not only are your arms locked here but I got your cock and balls I know you're not living without those that sounds pretty cool how long does a session usually last for you um my shortest session is an hour so okay and then I go up from there so So it can go an hour, hour and a half, two hours, three hours, four hours.
I mean, how do you decide what goes in the dungeon? Like, do you just collect things over time that you just see maybe online and you just like, I'm going to add this to my collection.
Like, how do you decide like what that's going to be in your dungeon i would think that everybody starts off with a basic dungeon okay so i mean mine's right here we can actually walk in and take a look at it but um so it's kind of like your home okay and everybody's different everybody decorates their home a little bit different right but there's some basics you have a kitchen and you probably need a kitchen table right you have a living room you probably need a couch right you know if you watch tv you might need a tv right you know if you cook in your kitchen you probably need some pots and pans if you eat at home you probably need some plates right so you've got the same kind of setup so you're going to walk into a dungeon and you're going to need some basics okay so you're going to need to need some gloves, right?
Some rubber gloves. Cause you're not going to want, I mean, your hands are going to get oily. You know, you don't want to be touching people and, you know, bodily fluids. Yeah, no, feel free. So you're going to have gloves, you have all kinds of toys, right? Okay. But those toys need to have condoms on them. Right. So you're going to have to have lots of condoms. Yeah.
you'll end up finding a lube that works for you okay um i happen like a really silicone um lube and i mean it's just like but i can tell you get a drop of that on the floor and you are like a gymnast you know you're i've locked myself in there before because i couldn't get because i got it on the handle yeah couldn't get the doorknob to turn you know and i'm hiking my skirt up and I'm, you know, like, oh my God, you know, I've done almost the splits before and grab it on the chains, you know, and I'm like, okay, you know, so, I mean, it can get a little wild and woolly, but, you know, and then you just build from there.
You know that you've got spanking clients. That's a basic, right? So you're going to need some paddles, right? You know that you're going to have bondage clients. That's a basic, right? I mean, people use bondage just in regular sex. You know, you use scarves or pantyhose and tie them up to the bed, you know, to tease them and stuff like that. A blindfold, a tie for your blindfold. Exactly, yes. Fifty Shades of Grey, right? Right. You know, so you're going to need some of those basics.
You're going to need arm restraints. You're going to need leg restraints. Okay. Whips, paddles, straps, hoods, canes.
You know, um, you're going to need leg restraints okay whips paddle straps hoods canes you know um you're gonna need like i said um rope different types of rope cock and ball torture is a basic right um is that basic that sounds pretty advanced no it is here's what's funny when you guys were talking about where you started i thought damn you guys started at the top you know and it's like because usually people when they're first trying to figure their way you know it's like tease and denial a little edgy okay you know it goes from a central type of thing it kind of builds up okay you guys are like starting at the peak and i'm thinking you're the one to like you know jump off with your parachute i'm like oh i'm still in the airplane she She jumped out.
You got it, babe. So, you know, you know that you've got those kinds of basics going on, right? So you're going to have to plan for those. Um, cock and ball torture people, you know, it's funny because people don't realize that cock and ball torture covers a lot of different ground.
So you can go from one extreme to the other okay so you can have extremely painful cock and ball torture which could be trampling right yeah um it could be weights you know on there it could be slapping it could be kicking it could be kneeing you know it could be all kinds of stuff like that or it could be light caresses it could be like uh tying it off in bondage right where it's like really really tight and then you're just kind of lightly caressing the underneath of their balls, right, where they kind of start to ache.
And, you know, you could do clips on there. You could use the Venus 2000 where it kind of starts to milk their cock and then stop. Wow. You know, I mean, so think about this.
If somebody is edging you over and she takes you up to the edge and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, right let's cool off and she kind of teases you a little bit you're thinking bitch you know and then she starts it up again and you're like oh yeah this time i'm gonna get it i'm gonna get it right oh here i am right there stop you know you're like this is getting really bad right i can see the pure joy in your face right oh i know. Oh, my goodness. So, I mean, you do that five or six times.
And let me tell you something. You're in the pain threshold now, right? I mean, because now you're in cock and ball torture. Because what you've done is you've taken something that's extremely pleasurable, right? But you're not letting that pleasure go to fruition. Right.
So, you have then taken something that, you know, normally you're oh let's rock on you know but you keep stopping it and so that's just a different form of cock and ball torture Wow you know but people always think it has to be like this extreme you know with being beating setting it on fire you know kind of it doesn't I mean anything can be torturous okay no if you drag it out and you know and, and stop it before fruition and keep doing that over and over and over, you know, so.
That was a good gem. I like that. No. What do you mean? No. No. Click, we're going to erase that part.
So, but I do want to ask you though, Tris, like hearing this stuff how what are you feeling i'm excited it sounds like it it sounds like it so um but mistress you say that for this to be something it has to come from both sides both participants have to get something out of it right she she wants to walk on someone but the person has to want to be walked on and they have to get some kind of enjoyment out of that correct i don't necessarily think that they have to get enjoyment out of it but it has to be um consensual right i mean i mean that's just like in a lifestyle right yeah we can't just go to some couple say hey you had want to have sex You got a nice ass, I want to fuck you.
That's not how it works. Yeah. It doesn't work that way. I mean, it's sounding like... Sure. It'd be like in the same type of what I say flow and energy and the vibe and all of this stuff just has to be there. It's not about if you're attractive or not. It's the rest of it. Like, and if all of that kind of goes together and it's just like, okay, so now we can have sex. So for this though, it has to be upfront. Well, they call me. Right. They call you, but they don't call her.
It you but it's like sales right right i'm here selling a product they're here calling for a product right so they call me biggest question they have because years ago people would specialize okay well to me that would be the kiss of death i mean let's face it we're in texas right steak is great but can you imagine having steak every single night can you imagine having missionary sex every night yes Yes, exactly. Right. And it's like it. We're in Texas, right? Steak is great.
But can you imagine having steak every single night? Can you imagine having missionary sex every night? Yes, exactly. And it's like it might start off fantastic, but after a while it's just like, oh, my God. Can we do something different? I mean, not that it wasn't good, you know, but there would be people who only specialized in foot fetish, only did spanking. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to glaze over.
So for me, I just like just like the variety i like all sorts of different things there's certain things that i have hard limits on which is just like anybody else right people come in probably you guys you know everybody has things that just don't work for them right right i have those too but people will call and um say i like trampling i like cock and ball torture i like bondage i like you know whatever right And, you know, I'm like, that's right. My wheelhouse. Yeah. Yeah.
Have you ever done a couple before? Yeah. I see lots of couples. Really? Wow.
I see more couples nowadays to where not where I'm necessarily dominating both of them, but either she wants to be dominated and he's trying to learn or vice versa, you know, because you don know what you don't know if you've never heard anybody speak they say that children would never learn to talk because if you grew up say in the jungle right right you know you never heard verbiage so you would never learn that right well if you've never done domination and all you've seen is something on the tv or whatever you know you're like great yeah you're trying to go okay how exactly does that work so people come in and and i usually start off by kind of doing a session and then i kind of bring them in and say okay here's what you're doing now and you're going to do this because when you do this it's going to impact them this particular way it's going to make them feel like this because you need to know why you're doing what you're doing in order to get the result that you're going to get so then how does she take the next step um would you say that she has to like create a profile on something like fet life to see because you said they call you right they reach out so does she start soliciting or not soliciting but but looking for people to participate with.
That's okay to step on. Exactly, yeah. People who might be into it. Okay, so what I would say is that it's going to start off with self-exploration. Okay. Because you need to be very clear about who you are and what it is that you want. Okay.
So, for example, are you wanting to do this in the lifestyle or are you wanting which would just be you doing it with somebody else because you like it right right or are you wanting to do this because you like it but you want to make some money at it right so you need to be clear about what the exchange is going to be right um because there's nothing worse than one person expecting one thing and you know that's someone else expecting something different so let's say that you just want to do this for fun and you you want to learn and you want to explore okay so then yes i would think that if you're wanting to just do this for fun and kind of explore yeah and you're looking for an exploration partner okay then i would probably put something out there on fet life okay and i would would sit there and say maybe join group trampling groups okay you know um uh because there's a group out on FetLife for everything you know pick my nose group you know like you know I'm telling you it doesn't matter what it is there's a group for them but you know find something okay with those people that like that and you can kind of connect and then you can just read a lot of the threads even and figure out a lot of the, they'll post pictures.
They talk back and forth. They're very open because they love this, right? They want to talk about it. Some people like to be trampled. Some people like to be walked on, right? Those are matches.
So, um, you know, if you find somebody that if, even if you go to some of their munches or something like that, and then you see someone, you know, like, you know, I'm really trying to explore this, or I'm, there might be someone who takes you under her wing and says, Hey, I'll show you how I do this, this, or this, or, you know, somebody might say, you know, I'm looking for someone who can walk on me. And you're like, I'm really wanting to learn this. Yeah. You know, I would like to do that.
Do you want it? Some people want it with bare feet. And here's the thing. There's nuances to everything. Right. I mean, people think like foot fetish, right? Oh, that sounds simple enough. Oh, honey, that is not even close to being simple. I mean, it's like, do you want bare feet? Do you want hot and sweaty feet? Do you want stinky feet? Do you want my toenails painted? If so, what color? Do you want me to have on stockings?
Do you want me to have walked on the ground for two or three days first and not wash my feet and have this big black all over my feet? You know, I mean, there's so much to it. It's not just foot fetish. It's like, okay. Like, hey, here's my feet. Right, yes, exactly. You know, do you want to wash my feet? Do you want me to wear open-toe shoes? Do you want me to wear closed-toe shoes? Do you want me to meet you after the gym so I have on socks and tennis shoes and they're hot and sweaty?
I mean, it's just so much to it. Thank you. Do you want me to wear open-toe shoes? Do you want me to wear closed-toe shoes? Do you want me to meet you after the gym so I have on socks and tennis shoes and they're hot and sweaty? I mean, it's just so much to it. I have a session tonight, and he's into foot fetish, all right? And we were talking about buzzwords that you have. He has key ones that you have to say, oh, my God, those feet are so, like, stinky, cheesy, pew-wee.
And I'm sitting there, and I'm trying not to laugh because I'm sitting there thinking never in my life have i ever gone pew wee and it's a good thing that he likes it that you make fun of it yeah because after i say that i'm usually just rolling thinking that is the stupidest thing i've ever said in my life oh that's so cheesy no no that would just never in real life ever come out of my mouth right you know it'd be more like oh what the fuck that shit stinks so your clientele they it kind of ranges in profession or they're all like uh stark you know masters of the universe kind of people um It doesn't range that far, all right?
So I would say that it is more of higher management up to the C-suites. Okay, gotcha.
It seems to be that there's a direct correlation between stress level, you know, and the more you accumulate the things that we think that we want in life right okay a wife two kids you know a picket fence you know the nice house the multiple cars needing to have a better job to be able to afford those things you know your vacations all this kind of stuff right and as you do that you know then somehow or another a lot of times in life you you know the wife ends up staying home or you know and then it's just you and you know all these things are going on right right and it's kind of like i talked to you about the rug right you've got all these things that eventually kind of starts to come out the other side and it's like well sexual tension is a lot like stress where you can relieve stress at the gym you can meditate and stuff like that that.
Sexual tension just stays with you.
And it just is like that snake that's coiled up there, you know, ready to strike at any moment, you know, and eventually you're walking down the street and you're going, Oh, she's pretty, you know, and, and I, in, you know, I don't know how it is in your life, but you know, a lot of times when people are married and they have kids and, you know, you find one person that is running this direction and, and, you know, your't know how it is in your life but you know a lot of times when people are married and they have kids and you know you find one person is running this direction and and you know your husband comes home and then you're off here you know at soccer practice and you know and then you got to get home and get dinner made and get the kids you know to bed and yeah you know i mean it's all that dynamics right yes and it doesn't really lend itself for like you know a sexy night because by time you're done, you're just like, Oh, you're right.
You know, you're thinking I need a glass of wine and Ambien and I am out, man, you know? So, you know, and, and I think that people really don't see the value of kind of like date night, right? Of making themselves important and making, carving out time for just them. You get so caught up in all those family dynamics.
And then if you've got work and you've got all these other things going on then you just you you get lost yes yeah and you just forget i mean and it's not until it gets to that boiling point yep that you're sitting there thinking oh i need to do something right and so you have all these things going on but if you have the person who has the trampling fantasy right or the foot fetish or whatever you know I mean I've had clients who've come in before and who've called me and said that they needed to see me for an appointment that they had seen somebody yesterday but it turned out that they were a hooker and it's not that it wasn't good it just what it wasn't what I needed okay because the thing is that a lot of times escorts think that, you know, well, their job is to get you in, get you off, and get you out, okay?
And that's great, and that satisfies a portion, right? But that wasn't the core need, you know? And so, you know, they just needed to come in and get their ass whipped. That's what they needed.
Yes, know and while that was all lovely right but they needed this too so you know i have clients who you know whenever they come in sometimes they're just at that point and they're like oh my god i so needed that whatever it is it's that little thing for them that just does it and it like is the plug that just opens up and drains all of that stress and stuff out.
And they just need that total release because they need to let go and somebody else just be in total control over what happened and what's going to go on. That's incredible. That makes sense. And you have such a good, good understanding and grasp of, like you said earlier, the psychology and how it all intertwines. I wonder, what do your clients appreciate most about you? Like, because I would think it will be that, you know, just an understanding of what they need.
They say funny things like, you know, I've never been able to sit down and have a whole conversation with somebody over quantum physics or, you know, um, or, you know, God, you really are into a great wines. Have you ever tried to, you know, and they like the fact that they can have a conversation with me, right. That, um, that I am well-versed on a lot of different topics that I enjoy a lot of different things. I read a lot, you know, I can talk politics. I can, um, talk about current events.
I can, you know, have a conversation a conversation about wine i can talk to you about you know europe and and traveling or you know how bad it sucks lately or you know i mean just a lot of different things and so i think that i think it's coupled with the fact that not only do they they get their needs met right in the arena of domination yeah and somebody actually understands what it is they're they're looking for but then afterwards then they can have a real life conversation with somebody and you know and just and they understand them and you know and vice versa kind of thing so i i think it's that it's that it makes it kind of feel real how did you get a dungeon in europe in europe yes how did you even do like I know if you're here when I read that I was like how is she in Europe too yeah well so you know everything always starts with the man that's always a downfall isn't it it's like going back to the apple.
If it weren't for that damn man. So there was somebody that I was very personal with and wanted to position myself in Europe much closer. Okay. Keep it at that. I love it. Yeah, I love it. I love it. That's cool. Is it still operational? Oh, it's the same thing. Well, sort of. Oh, okay.
I mean, at that i love it yeah i love it i love it that's cool is it still operational oh it's the same thing well sort of oh okay i mean i'm paying on it but you know with covid i mean it's just and on top of that i would try to be there about every three months okay so i mean it's not like you know europe is a little hop skip and jump i mean it of, you know, planning to do it all. So, but then, so I hadn't been there in probably five months before COVID hit.
I was planning on going in January, and then COVID hit. What was it? February? February. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So, I was just getting my trip booked and all that stuff, and then the whole world shut down. Yep.
it's been shit ever since right because even though it opened back up you know it's like nowadays it's like plane trains and automobiles just even do anything okay right you have your COVID test oh no you just got this two days ago you need to have this two minutes ago you must have misread that paperwork do you have that you know kind of blood retinal scan you know so you know it's just or in Europe for the longest time it was like you had you could go but you have to quarantine for two weeks I guess I can sit there and stay in my dungeon the whole time so do you have um I know you mentioned um having tried bringing in other ladies to help you out um do you still have women on under your own so for the longest time i i kind of was had a bad taste in my mouth about all of that okay and so then finally um i had a friend talking to me and said well you know maybe it was your picker i'm like you know my picker's been broken for a long time.
So that's probably it. You know, so I, and that's whenever, you know, um, he encouraged me cause he has a, someone I really, really look up to. I mean, he has a very successful business and he's always offered me really good advice. And he goes, you know, quit being so emotional about this and think of this like work, think of this like business, you know?
And he said, you know, what kind of women do you think would match the type of clients and I'm like started rattling it off and I'm like well someone who's educated somebody who can talk about multiple topics somebody you know who um is attractive you know and who can be very sexy but yet at the same time if you saw them out somewhere you wouldn't go that must be a dominatrix you know I mean kind of thing so you know there's there's all kinds of different women and some of them have tattoos all over and some of them don't right and some men are attracted to this sure and some men i mean this is why some men like redheads different flavors like brunettes like you know yeah women who are bald or have that kind of what is her name grace jones or whatever that's kind of hot i think that's like damn i mean yeah she can rock that I would just look like a bad bald person you know but I mean it's the energy that you bring to it and there's certain things that kind of turn different people on for that goes back to if you're a business yeah you need to know your client yeah and your clientele base and the people that you're going after what are they they looking for?
That makes perfect sense. You got anything else? No. This was great. This was good. I can see the enjoyment in her eyes. Wanted to give you an opportunity to maybe promote yourself, promote your business if you wanted to. It's up to you.
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