
Bi the Way with Nchotwife & Drtymaxx · Ashley & Kyle
Episode 12 with special guests Cameryn Morie & Bobby B
Show notes
We invite our new friends to talk about how they got introduced into the lifestyle, what some of their boundaries are now versus what they were when they started and one very spicy but funny story they shared with us!
Transcript
here we are coming live from virginia beach virginia area we got some special guests here you guys want to introduce yourselves i'm bobby b i'm cameron ray and we are by the way with nc hotwife and dirty max okay so we like to bring special guests on get other people's opinions about lifestyle content all of that fun stuff. So figure out how people started and the lifestyle and stuff like that. So first off, how did you guys get into the lifestyle? The dirty talk. Go ahead, here we go.
We always have been very not vanilla in the bedroom i guess we've always talked about like you know how hot it would be to have threesomes and then we you know we started with the pillow talk and we're having sex and it was getting more deep and i was like you know i want to watch you make some you know make another girl come and then i noticed every time i would say that i'm like fuck i just really hard he's like oh you want to watch me eat another girl's pussy and i'm like fuck so we were like okay i'm like so we're uh we had met some friends and they were in the lifestyle and um they were also content creators and they invited us to dinner one night and we were like yeah let's just go they're they're hot they're you know they seem super cool so they were telling us about the lifestyle they were veterans in the lifestyle and they were talking to us about these lifestyle parties um that we could go to and it was no pressure you didn't have to dive in head first you could literally just go and watch and we were like sounded fun so we went to our first like hotel takeover lifestyle party and we ended up that night in a room with like 12 other people which was a group orgy yeah we couldn't participate fully because somebody couldn't get stay hard I'm not afraid to admit it people, there was a lot of people in the room Everybody and I mean it was a great time and everybody in the room was just so so so amazing In the drive home we were like That was really really that was a lot.
That was a lot. Yeah, that was fun It was fun. It was Yeah. That was fun. It was fun as shit. And I was like, you know, if you thought, if you could, like, get your dick hard, you think we would, would you be okay with fucking? And he was like, yeah. And I was like, me too. So I was like, all right, we're going to do it now. You know, we're going to, because we were, you know, at first we were like, we're going to slow, we're going to soft swap. We're just going to face other people. Very slow. Do oral. So you guys definitely went in slow, starting with like 12 other people. Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. You guys like went full force in. Yeah. That was like the most memorable. Still to this day, the best, one of the best times we've had. It took us a long time, I feel like, to do an orgy. Really? Yeah. Like we were super nervous.
Actually, the first time we went it took us a long time i feel like to do an orgy really yeah like we were super nervous actually the first time we went to a club it was kind of there was six six people yeah and he had the same problem right we went yeah and he like went home super upset he's like the fuck is wrong like 30 years old like why the can't i get hard yeah yeah that's exactly yeah that's exactly how it was and then you realize like performance anxiety oh yeah right yeah that is women you know we're like loops fit whatever we're good you can never tell yeah right um yeah guys yeah I could tell you guys have it hard not literally we try so after you guys did this well i guess you kind of answered that a little bit so after you guys did the orgy you kind of were like came back and ready went back out with that couple again and we did then we went back with smaller groups and just fully with our first time fully swapping which is another one-on-one couple so that was like a more like that was a really great experience so so is that more something that you guys like to do like just full swap with one couple versus like orgy style or do you kind of like a little bit of both i think we're we're now on the medium size no i i i think it comes out because we we haven't done a whole lot of four just four of us just a couple swap mostly now it's our happy medium is i guess six people usually two other couples and it just kind of rotates a little bit yeah kind of the rotation Yeah, I figure it's not always better for groups it's very it's for sure it is a lot um and especially to make sure everybody is like taking care of in a swinger situation when you have like five or other you know five plus more couples so we do like it a little bit more smaller and like intimate yeah i think we're the same way yeah to get to the orgy style it's almost too much it becomes a production how when we did the hot wife tour that was the first yeah I think we had done three other no I think we've done like seven or eight couples when we went to trapeze oh yeah we went to a trapeze in atlanta um but yeah that was definitely the it's a little overwhelming in one hotel room or yeah it is yeah um no the one we did at trap was in like a it was probably the size of a hotel room yeah because there was like three full-size beds all in the center.
Oh, well, yeah, it was just a giant was probably the size of a hotel room. Yeah, because there was, like, three full-size beds all in each other. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was just a giant room. Yeah, that helps. When there's multiple beds and you've got, like, two couples here, three couples here, that makes it, I like it, I like everybody being in one bed. Yeah. And so you just have, like, body parts on body parts. You don't know who you're touching. You're just fluttering. That's, like, my ultimate. That's my favorite. I love that. I love that. Yeah.
that yeah i like it because like then nobody's being left right exactly because i don't want anybody right yeah and you're going to feel like you're like switch switch right i think i think that was the hardest thing for us like when we would do like couple swaps in the beginning we're like start out with your partner partner right and i'm always the one that's like okay like i'm like are you gonna and i'm like why do i have this okay not just me something a lot sexier when you're like might be a guy's husband's's dick instead of like hey you want something to do yeah i can always tell like he's ready to switch because we start with each other and he'll i can see him he's like looking around like all right all right who's next i'm still trying to fuck my wife but i'm ready to switch now you want to make sure everybody's going around right just get the party started here somebody's got to start the party yeah bobby b loves to do that all right well he's in charge i'm gonna be watching him and he's gonna.
Bobby said it's time to switch. Bobby said it's your perfect. You will not be the one to. You don't like to initiate. Like Bobby said, we got to switch. Rotate. I will say I don't like to start off, and you're in the room, and you know it's going to happen soon, but nobody can initiate the start of it.
So I think it almost feels like the woman always has to you know if there's someone like to kiss a girl or something yeah i know it's like the girl on girl kiss kind of thing always like that awkward yeah and then and then the next day it's always damn i wish we would start that a lot sooner because that was so much fun that was a great time yeah they're talking there's a lot of great conversations going on but everybody in their back of their heads like when are we when are we gonna start playing i hear from a little bit i feel like that's something people don't talk about enough yeah there are awkward parts of the life yeah it's not just we all get together and like no like we're there yeah it's not like that definitely not like that on a first date and you're trying to go into having sex and all these people are your first dates trying to start And then you're like, and that's what I tell him.
He's just like, start making out with me. Start making. And then just start fucking me. I'm like, read the room. It says read the room. I don't. What the hell? I'm going to. We're going to initiate it. And I'm like, no, no. I don't want to be that comfortable to start. Well, it's because there's obviously at some point there's great conversations going on. And that's how you know that it's about friendships too you're getting a lot more out of it than just yeah two three o'clock in the morning like are we are we fucking or what? The window from Miss Camry is going down.
So as far as lifestyle and content creation, which did you start first? I started content creating first. I started with OnlyFans first.
And then that's how we actually got in contact with the the um the swinger couple is i knew that they also did content so i had that commented on one of their posts and he was like hey i was like can i get your wife's only fans he's like can we get yours and that's when we kind of like um we started chatting and then we went out to have dinner and drinks and a date with them and so that's when we got into the swinger yeah but they also helped with the content too to kind of get like different ideas so we had no idea on the ideas oh my god he's like just checking out see what's going on what are you going to do there buddy you're kind of heavy there you go do something with your child oh that's all right The guest star of the night somebody needs his mom sorry guys um you made me lose my train of thought so where was that going from that content first so the content part kind of helped out so then we grew into both sides of it and kind of branched off from there i guess i think that's the first time we've heard their content first yeah and then the yeah i think we you know maybe you could be judged too because we're like well you know they're content creators and they're not lifestyle and stuff like that so everybody's got their own depiction on that but ultimately that's what we always say about the lifestyle is that there's so many ways to do it.
There's not really a wrong way to do it. Right. It's whatever feels comfortable for you. Exactly. As long as you guys are happy, other people don't matter. Right. Honestly, I mean, I know that probably sounds bad. Right. But if your household is happy, then that's what matters.
I tell people, like, I did start as a content creator for only fans but that helped me explore like my securities of being you know putting myself out there naked and sexually and you know we had both come from really terrible terrible ex-marriages and i you know was i had walls up and boundaries up and i would have, if you would have asked me, like, 20, like, how long have we been together? 10 years? 10 years. If you would have asked me 11 years ago if I would ever be a swinger or anything, I would have been like, no, hell no, I would never trust a man to fuck another girl, never.
So, like, that's how, you know, I was in a, you know, we we were both in bad marriages so we actually evolved into everything together and at the same pace it wasn't like he was like yeah let's well he didn't say let's do content you should do you should do all the fans but we literally grew into the lifestyle together at the same pace it wasn't like start off with let's go go play with yourself a little bit on the internet boom I'm learning I learning. I feel like you were kind of, both of us were the same way. Like neither of us were real wild. Right. Until we started this.
We were like completely different people. Yeah. Yeah. Not sure if that's a good thing on bathroom.
So you would- It's definitely never met you well we met in high school and we were each other's first yeah we had never had sex with anybody else before we started the lifestyle yeah okay um and i used to be the world's jealous person yes i was awful yeah you too oh she was oh yeah i would have never multiple times and that's right yeah yeah i would i would always say i would never trust a man i would never trust a man as far as i could throw him i was like anti-men and still to this day i still worry that all of a sudden it's like some part of that brain is going to go back and i'd be You're like, no, we're done.
No, that done it really it really makes a difference on who your partner is and if they can show you that security and like he you know he did nothing but you know everything right and i gained trust and we had an amazing relationship and we just started getting comfortable and easing and it was great it was like the best case scenario that could happen yeah especially with so many people they're like how can you get my wife into the lifestyle can you teach me tell me how to tell her that i want to be in the lifestyle i'm like you cannot just tell your wife yeah how can i convince my wife to be in the lifestyle like you know you will never be able to do that you can't uh yeah because i thought it was a trap.
Yeah. Because like he wanted to see me with another guy. And I'm like, wait, like I've never been with another guy before. Is this like a trick? Right. Are you just trying to get me to say this? And then you're going to like turn this shit around on me? I'm not really sure. I'm still waiting for the day to say that.
And then I was like, does he really just want to fuck other girls he really just want to fuck other girls because we've never been with anybody else does he need to fill another woman to see but no and still to this day we like couple spots and stuff like that but that is what he enjoys enjoys right is watching um so how do your boundaries and rules like how are they now versus when you guys first started well let's start with what they were when you started yeah what were your some things you guys at first we were we were like oh we want to be soft swap only so we were we were good with kissing we were good with oral on other people um then that only lasted like a week two trips maybe or something i mean we but then actually that became something kind of brought up to the fact of like something we had to work out as far as doing the lifestyle because we were in a smaller full swap.
Yeah, we didn't know really what rules we needed to have in place until some boundaries of ours that we didn't know were boundaries until people pushed them and we were like, okay, that's definitely a boundary. And then we weren't on the same page i was you know i i wasn't thinking he wasn't i wasn't checking in like check in like so when you're over there having your good time well and at first we were same bed we were same bed right and the second the second um play time that we had together it ended up being in two separate. So that was the first time that we dealt with that.
In a small group, full swap. And I had a nice raging. Yeah.
I like to be checked in on, even if you know that I'm having a good time, like I need you to look at me and make with me and be like yeah are you good are you good again well this man once he gets in going in his vibe he is like brought to you by i was not having the time of my life so i'm like over here trying to do fucking smoke signals to this motherfucker to get him to pay attention to me like i'm not good right now like me and he's just over there getting his dick ridden like it was fucking no tomorrow and I'm like oh my god it worked that night it worked that night and uh so then like everything went wrong in that in that set scenario and then so when we left we were like okay we didn't realize that we needed to have x y and z boundaries but we need to have x y and z boundaries and we were like maybe we're not swingers because that was really bad and i had like i was in my feelings he was in his feelings and we worked through it but now our rules are.
We just, I don't cream pies yeah i don't uh i don't let anybody come in you and you don't come in i don't come in anybody i don't come in anybody either yeah yeah guys i don't know if you saw her and she does not have a dick. Yeah, and a swinger, yeah. When we're swapping partners and stuff. I feel like we had a lot of boundaries in the beginning. A lot more in the beginning than we do now. When we first started, you were okay with me, like somebody fucking me, but I was not okay with him. Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
And some, like, the jealousy, and a lot of that really was just, I was insecure and everything else. I don't know that we have a lot. I really don't with you.
It helps with the content part, too, and seeing so much of it and being around so many different we kind of opened up to everything yeah because at first he wasn't like totally sold on just watching me have sex with other people while he had to watch he was not like super like oh that's what gets me that's not what gets him off his so he had to like you know kind of work with that for the content so that's like and everyone's like oh you must look you know you love you get off on watching you know do you like stroke your dick and come when you watch your wife's scene he's like no that's not really what like that's not what gets me if I get off and I like hear her coming and like when he's next to me and I'm coming and when you know when he's coming and making another girl come at the same time like that's when we're like but yeah I don't know what that came from I'm gonna note that for later noted for later there's like you have to talk about yeah you know stuff like that I don't I don't know i don't feel like our boundary like i feel like i probably have more boundary our our thing is if it's not something that we do together it's not something that we're gonna do with other people with other people um and i feel like for us that eliminates a lot of jealousy insecure any kind of issues that we may or may not have um I don't really know there's not there's not a lot like I don't do I I don't like come on my face because I feel like I spend too much money on my face I know that sounds like no no i got she made sure i didn't come on her face earlier so like that's not something that we do with other people um but i don't really feel like you have a lot of i really don't i mean as long as you're having fun i don't really care that's a thing but i feel like that's a lot of people's right yeah oh yeah definitely that's it and then as far as like swinger stuff do you guys do like group chats do you guys do you prefer group chats okay yeah yeah we're the same way if somebody's man texts me outside we're group chat bye yeah no yeah we're yeah we're very big on the group yeah yeah i think even if i don't participate all the time he comes in every once in a while he's there I like died yesterday.
You were like, one more pump, motherfucker. I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm trying to keep up. Work's been busy. It's hard. It gets hard. I can't imagine how many group chats you guys have with like the hot wave tour and all that. There's so many, it's hard to keep up with all of them. It's a lot. I feel like sometimes I'm just like, take my phone. I don't want to be on it. I don't want to hear it go off. Do you get like that too? Yeah. Like he's quick to respond, whereas I'm like, oh, it's okay.
Yeah yeah i think there's always one part of the relationship on most people you'll tell yeah one person one person's always more communicated i run my mouth more in person and he runs his mouth more through text yeah that's funny yeah i feel like that's the way. That works out. It does.
Okay, so we'll do hottest experience and then like not a bad experience we don't call it bad so you decide which one you want to start with you can talk about the fun the oh well it was uh we were at a hotel takeover in i guess north carolina and uh miss uh camry here was uh having a good time down at the pool met a couple that was the older couple that was we met before and and so we wanted to play with And Cam likes to do afternoon plays, playtime. So we went back to the room, and I guess we got invited a couple other couples that end up coming in there. And they're like, yeah, come in.
We have a fun time in our room. And so they have a karaoke machine, and then they have a motor bunny. I i don't know everybody's familiar with a motor bunny but it is the hottest sex toy machine you could have at a party while singing karaoke so we're in a group and now it's like 12 there was a large amount of people in this small room it was only one bedroom and that we have people singing karaoke songs of old rock songs and we have girls in a in a certain going on the motorbunny and there is is just squirt, squirt flying everywhere.
It was fun because it was different and everybody was just literally having so much fun and it was having sex everybody was just literally having fun like just it was so hot though and it was like the really good it's a really good room to get people in yeah like start communicating and feel comfortable meeting new people and that's exactly what they did it was it worked perfectly little disappointed we still didn't get to play with that couple maybe someday and they were a great couple absolutely great couple and so hopefully someday but uh yeah ultimately it was that was your most memorable memorable point of just squirt and rock music can you imagine being one of those people and they were trying to do towels they were throwing towels from everywhere well they know you know it's just yeah if you don't know what a hotel takeover is, literally the hotel is shut down for Swinger's Lifestyle Party.
So no doubt in your mind you know what's going on in that hotel. And usually they have a whole level of just different rooms of fun and excitement. So it's something different to try. We like hotel takeovers. I got to ask, you said it was in North Carolina.
Yeah, Durham who was it friction okay yeah yeah we've been on one friction party it was the um they do like one it's not called hot wave it's called for her yeah it's like friction for her so we went to that one but our goal is to go to a couples yeah you guys enjoyed it good yeah oh yeah please tell us we'll go yeah we'll go with you yeah people always ask us if we're going to the next one yeah that's that's when that one's the next on our list yeah okay we need to add that yes add that to our to-do list um okay let's talk about your learning experience we kind of brought that up yeah that was that was with the second time full the full swap yeah yeah that makes sense that was the that was checking in that was the worst one that was the worst one that's when we were like from there i mean nothing has come close to that other than I mean,'s been a few other times where i still have issues but we when we come around like he was just going to town everybody else was done and he's still just going down and of course i'm done and i'm sitting here standing here like what are you doing you're the only one fucking and he's just like yeah I'm like, babe, babe.
I'm like, again, trying to smoke signals to this one. He's over here having the time of his life. So I had to go up to him and like stomp on his fucking butt. I'm like, get his attention. Because then I'm like, all right, I don't, I'm not, I haven't been jealous to this point, but now I'm like, this motherfucker is just not listening.
He's not paying attention to me me and he's looking like he's having a bad time of his time right now when it works it works I stopped his foot to get his attention he was like oh shit oh shit now my wife is going to be pissed at me yeah do it again I do feel like that's something people don't talk about enough it's like you, you can be in a lifestyle. Like, how long have you guys been in a lifestyle? Lifestyle content? Five. Five years? Yeah. Yeah, so you guys have been in it for five. We've been in it for six. Yeah. Like, you can still get jealous. Yeah. It's normal to get jealous.
You just have to make sure you talk about it. Talk about it. Yeah.
And that's what's so great because we learn how to communicate, like, crazy that we don't like you just feel it comes second nature because yes you just and it bonds you closer and when you get to be around other couples and talk about the same things that helps too yeah and then you learn like okay it's normal that i got jealous or it's normal to have performance anxiety it's normal to um like get a little jealous when your what your husband looks like he's having a lot of fun yeah yeah he doesn't fucking look like that when he's like it's normal to have those feelings in your head but like the the fun and the friends that you make and everything outweigh those definitely insecurities and like jellia yeah things that you have 100 i feel like have the best friends now from the lifestyle 100 we have no vanilla friends no we don't have a few a couple but i mean we don't really see them that much i think when we when we started the lifestyle um we lost a lot we lost a lot of friends we were right right really they weren't our friends right um correct but then the rest of them when he came i don't like to say when he came out that he was right but when he said he was by is when we lost the rest of the vanilla you guys weren't really our friends anyway yeah yeah definitely yeah especially when you know you could be around other and hang around with everybody that feels so comfortable around you're like what the hell why would you be like i was already doing this shit before i said anything like well i didn't act any different you know yeah okay no one more question okay your family we won't go into details do your families know what you do?
Mine does. Yeah. Okay. I'd say they do. My dad, my dad knows my, my mom, she knows what she does. It's like a don't ask, don't sell kind of thing. Once in a while, I'll just jab a little bit just to mess with her. My parents love it. They don't care. That's great. So did yours handle it? Okay. Was there? Yeah. Yeah. My mom knew first and she was like, is this something that I can do? And I'm like. No, mom. No. No, mom. Yeah. Because at first I told them I was only selling like feet picks. Right. And she was like, oh my God, how much are you making from that? Can I, let's do me.
And I'm like, no, Oh, no, can I let's do me I mean and I'm like no and then uh we ended up he ended up getting in trouble with his job and a lot of things were coming out and so like I had to explain to her exactly the the extent and she was like oh well that's not the job I would have liked for you to do in your life but whatever you know you're happy you're paying your bills i don't care um that's pretty much that's like my parents yeah i always ask because uh we we were outed it's a long story um but i had a very like no contact no conversation with my parents for several months after um but i was raised as a southern baptist like okay you don't know right we don't do that good yeah yeah um so i always just like to ask to see how yeah yeah people if they're understanding if not we've had well anyway here most parents aren't unfortunately what so understanding yeah no and that's why i told him because he was like he's so worried that he's going to disappoint his parents and i was like that's because you've never disappointed him as a kid i disappointed my parents all the time this is nothing new for them so i was the good kid like when this my parents were like she's doing what like oh my god yeah it was, was a it was a shock um my parents also said um that what i was doing was prostitution oh yeah and i was gonna go to jail but that was just a it was a tactic oh yeah oh yeah so now when our exes found out hell broke loose oh hell broke loose yeah that's a whole other level of shit storm it's interesting to see people the way people yeah people react yeah your dad said absolutely nothing yeah and his mom said kind of the same thing like well that's not really what i would have picked for you to do, but, you know, kind of whatever.
And then she started asking too many questions. She stopped asking questions. And then that was it. I showed my mom, as a wifey, I showed my mom, like when it came out, I showed her like the, you know how they send you, they send you the photos of things.
And I sent her the photo of uh me and the uh the male talent and you know the wifey thing and she was like oh no it was a picture of me and him that's one I sent the one of me and him and it said with Alberto Blanco yeah and she texted back she was like didn't even comment about the picture the photo and it says And I was like, uh, the male talent? She was like, well, what's that for? And I'm like, so I explained to him, he was like, well, does Alberto get, or does Louie get Alberto's wife? Oh, does Bobby get Alberto's wife? And then we was like, damn, I should have said that.
Do I, I'm gonna get Alberto's wife? Cause she knew we were swingers,ers so she was like why are you just banging and why was his wife there it was funny oh god i could imagine i would never show that yeah there would be way too many questions and we're not i'm not going to answer in those yeah there were enough questions when we said we were flying to la ohA. Oh, yes. Yeah, that, no. All right, do you have any more questions for that? No, I think that was good. No? Yeah. All right, well, thank you guys. Yeah, thank you for hanging out with us. Always. One more thing.
The people that are listening to you, where can they find you? Yes. Like, if they want to see more of you, where can they find you ahead um cameronmarie.com and i'm cameron murray literally all across the board on all platforms only fans many vids instagram and then you just follow from her page onto bobby b's bobby b unfiltered on instagram growing from there and he. Yep. Not on Twitter, though. Not on Twitter yet. Still waiting for my manager to work with us. It happens. She's been busy, okay? She's very busy. She's been very busy. But I think that kind of wraps it up. It does.
Thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. Thank you. Thank you. And we are, by the way. With Dirty Max. And NC Hotway. Bye. Thanks, guys.