Ep 2 Our first MFM and Couple swap

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well here we are back again yep ready for our second go-round yep episode two yes we get like kind of dive into some good stories fun stuff yeah i wouldn't say bad no they were learning experiences they were learning experiences they weren't bad they weren't bad well as an outsider maybe they kind of were yeah as an outsider probably but whatever it's fine yeah everyone has those experiences yeah and if a swinger says they don't they're lying yeah yeah for real every once in a while people you know think with their private parts not with their actual brain it just happens um okay so first we figured we would say what our boundaries were when we first started in my style so obviously since it was my idea i i had less boundaries for you than you had for me, obviously.

Right, yeah. Because it was something that you weren't really okay with, you know. Like, I wanted to see you with another guy, but it wasn't like you had a fantasy of me with another woman. Right. So, obviously, the normal group chats. Yeah. We preferred group chats.

I feel like most of it then was through kick i feel like most of our group there was a little bit in snapchat a little bit yeah so like if you guys don't know what kick was kick was like uh i feel like it's still around but it's probably not used as much um i feel like it's kind of like snapchat in a way because you can do live pictures yes because we caught that one person that was sending they said they were sending a live picture but it wasn't yes because like in kick it'll actually well i don't know this was god knows that was probably what four or five years ago now um yeah at least like it would actually tell you on the bottom of the picture it would say like live picture yeah like this person like tried to like photoshop the live picture in like in the picture and it wasn't the right like fault text that it was like and we tried yeah so so that was a no-go that well that was a good thing about cake cake was you know you could tell if they were real or not i'm only bad i mean downside was i don't i think you could screenshot stuff and it wouldn't tell you like whereas like snapchat obviously you know it'll tell you somebody screenshot something you know i have no idea yeah i don't think it did but that's not anything we thought of back then.

No, we weren't. We didn't think about that. We were just like, oh, let's just have fun. Let's just live our best lives. Um, okay. So the group chat, um, always everything in the same room. Yeah. At the time, everything was same room. We didn't do anything separate um and he was okay with being full swap i was not okay with full swap yet i was only okay with soft swap just because like i said last time like we had never been with anybody besides each other before we started Lifestyle. So, I guess I wasn't sure if I was okay with that, that innocence leaving. Yeah. What else? Let's see.

What other boundaries did we have? I don't think we had, like, some people have, like, no kissing and stuff like that.

I mean, that's totally fine's totally fine yeah we didn't have any of those boundaries it's hard to think about because our boundaries are like i wouldn't say they've changed so much but they they do change depending on the people yeah it definitely depends on like our comfort level with other people like we've known you for you know done multiple things with you obviously our boundaries are going to be a a little different as if we like first met you yeah um but you can almost kind of like go with the i'm not really go with the flow but it's more like uh um trying to figure out the right way to say it but like it's not like you just like jump right in and like say like okay we have no anal it's not like you're gonna like find a couple and then you know bring them back to wherever you're playing and then all of a sudden like boom like hey you know you want to do anal it's not like yeah like to get to the deep end of the pool you got you got to start out you don't just dive right off you got to kind of warm up to certain things so it's like whoa hold up um and i will say like for like for us like that is a boundary of ours yeah um no anal yeah um i mean that's always been that way i mean unless it was in a like in a dp situation yes kind of thing yeah and that's only happened once so yeah that is only happened once and i think i think i'm okay with that that's the only version yeah i am um anyways we'll circle back to that not today though never say never um i feel like that's it as far as boundaries we didn't yeah nothing else real i mean we won't go into the like i mean like how like some people like start out in the beginning and they already know like hey like you know i'm only gonna finish with my partner like you know no like facials you know no finishing in the mouth like stuff like that like we didn't really at that time we didn't really think about that no honestly we didn't i don't know why i don't know we are new swingers we were just super excited to get into it we were young and dumb where i said earlier we were thinking with our private parts not with with our head.

Yeah, that's the truth. Yeah. Okay, so boundaries are established. So, let's talk about our first experience that we had. We kind of touched on that a little bit before. Yeah. But, yes, the first person that we ever did anything with, we found them from DoubleList. Yeah. Which we told you guys before was kind of of like craigslist but yeah it's like craigslist like for dark side like yes for those encounters yeah casual encounters there you go um and i feel like you really talked to him more so in a group chat, which is really fine because. Well, at the time, like we were both still working.

Like it was easier for me to message while I was at work. Yeah. Than it was for you. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I like, I guess we were, we're under the impression, like he was married., like. He was. I'm pretty sure they, like, just had a baby, too, and, like, we kept getting, like, screenshots from the wife. We assume it was the wife, looking back. Like I said in the last episode, we, it could have just been, like, a buddy been like, hey, like, you know, help me cheat on my wife. Like, I mean, you never know. Yeah.

Kind of thing of thing let's be honest that would not be a very good friend yeah that wasn't it happened that we you know i think after it happened i feel like that was kind of like uh maybe we shouldn't have done that yeah like i don't think that like she knew exactly what was going on yeah so we obviously don't go into like super great details but i mean he was a he was a police officer he was he was a police officer in a it was a different town few towns away from us it was i don't know 45 minutes an hour 45 minutes an hour are away from us so that was fine um at the time um now we met him and i think we thought we were just gonna like meet him yeah and like he showed up like in his full like police officer suit he didn't have like a police car but he was he was still like in uniform like with the bell everything like all of his i don't know what the best way to say that is like full head to toe like police officer yeah all of the necessary equipment that's probably not the right word accessories yeah all of his accessories he had on dazzled out in police he was with all of his belt have the new kids say tripping tools oh my god he was tripping clearly i'm not with that because i don't know i think that's how you use that term i don't know we'll find out we'll find out if not somebody if it's not right somebody will let us know um so we thought we were showing up to talk that's not really what happened we ended up doing something so at the time my you owned well you rented out a yeah i rented out a uh a shop because i you know detail cars yes and yeah we we met there because we didn't want to meet at our house yeah we were a little apprehensive about like but i mean he was a police officer so he probably could have figured out where we lived he probably could have very easily um and he very well might know where we lived at the time anyways but i don't like to think about that um so it was in a shop yeah a detailing shop no ac there was no ac it was i don't know maybe august september i don't know i had shorts and a tank top on i know that um and the only way we could get to where nobody could see us because they were like garage doors on the yeah um you could see in if you wanted to was the bathroom yeah and of course there's no windows in the bathroom but then like there's a bathroom there's no ac there's no airflow at all so it was really freaking hot and i was like babe i need a fan like i need something they were like one big shop fans that we put in the door the things you do when you first start and so yeah it was hot there was a fan constantly blowing on us it was in a bathroom like who it's like it was a shop bathroom it's not like so dirty and like gringy yeah it's not like it was like your bathroom you just cleaned at home it was like a concrete floor and like block cinder walls like yeah it was like yeah dirty dirty but it was a really fun experience at the time yeah it was hot um i feel like i was very adamant during it about like no like you're not allowed to you're not allowed to go down there this is like yeah it was it was only soft swap yeah but that's because that's all like i was okay with obviously he was open to yeah it being full swap but i was like no like no like I was very adamant about like no like don't go there like no don't do that kind of thing um but it was soft swap soft swap um and it was actually our first buy it was yeah that was our first our first experience was a bi experience um because like the guy was okay with it i guess he no he was actually bi too yeah but looking back now which we'll get into a little bit later um i feel like he was more on the like like he was cool with you but like you know some guys that are like bi like they say they're bi but it's like almost more like they're almost more towards the gay side of it it's like they're like they want a woman there so that way then it's not like fully like just two guys yeah like they're kind of like afraid of it yeah and i mean if that's what you want just go do it like just say it just do it yeah um And, but, I mean, I feel like it was a great time.

Like. Yeah.

just go do it like just say it just do it yeah um but i mean i feel like it was a great time like yeah we both um did oral you guys both finished um it was but like it was all over me it was great like it was a it was like the timing was great between yeah it was great um and we're like that was a good time yeah like we like like we really had a good time with it um and the guy like after everything was over after you know i tried to find 100 paper towels there was nothing there i'm like okay i need something because like this is all over me um and so he left and then oh i almost spilled my coffee it's not good um and then like we talked about it we sat there and i think i was a little like in shock maybe yeah i mean your adrenaline I don't know.

almost spilled my coffee it's not good um and then like we talked about it we sat there and i think i was a little like in shock maybe yeah i mean your adrenaline it's like wait every single time we do it it's still to this day an adrenaline rush yeah so you're almost kind of like on a high yeah like for a little while afterwards yeah i'm like did i like did i just do that like was that was that real did i dream that like yeah um and so after we talked about it like we didn't have any negative thoughts about it like we had i'm pretty sure we left and went and got some food to go or something i'm not surprised we were like fuck this work i'm not working after this like let's go to cookout we probably went to cookout no i guess we probably went to cookout and then went home and ate it um but like we had no regrets like i thought it was hot you obviously thought it was hot um and we're like you know we could do that again yeah so but then it kind of got no good sorry no that's where i was going it kind of got a little weird it did because then like he started kind of like messaging because we we kind of almost was just like okay like one and done like we didn't want to make this like a regular thing yeah it was we didn't want to like like it's not like a you know this is it's not like you're gonna turn into like a booty call after right like this was just like a like hey this is the first time doing this like you know almost like we need a little bit of space we need to kind of think and kind of you know like make sure we're really into this like it's not like holy crap why did we just do that kind of thing um but then like i had to like block him on like snapchat and then he ended up finding me again on snapchat and then i'm pretty sure he found you on facebook yeah he found my personal facebook um but i do remember after like after he left i remember like he kept messaging you like it was more like me yeah like it was like he he just wanted to like he wanted to do something with me again like he didn't want to do anything with you yeah so that's obviously going back to that is why you kind of felt more like he just wanted to do something with another guy which is fine like I would have been okay with that because it's like but like you have a life at home so you know yeah but looking back like we were very new and like that wasn't something that like i was okay with doing yeah and i i don't know that i was okay with that at that time like because we always wanted to like be together um and do things together but yeah he um he got a little creepy and we ended up blocking him off of like all social media and um maybe i don't know that we've done something with the cops i don't know i don't know sure we have okay no yeah but i mean he's more selective he didn't even get like undressed like he's like he kept everything on and just whipped it out like it was fly like he didn't like like he's like i don't know like looking back it probably would it should have been like a red flag like you're showing up like with everything i don't even know if i can really say that word but you know what cops carry on their waist yeah like that was there the entire time he was well i don't know if you can say that either um but yeah it was um we thought it was a great experience but looking back um i don't know like it was a good experience but there's maybe some other precautions maybe there were some red flags yes definitely definitely some red flags but overall the first experience like it was a good one yeah it was a good one um but we did what you're supposed to do we communicated about it we decided we enjoyed it we did we talked about it a lot um which you need to do good or bad um we talked about it And I'll see you next time.

enjoyed it we did we talked about a lot um which you need to do good or bad um we talked about it and i was like i think you brought you're like so like how do you feel about a couple now and i like wasn't really okay with it i don't think i think i was like well i think my mentality at that point was like okay well like i've you know done this with this guy now like it's only fair for me to let you do something with another woman why are you laughing i'm laughing because like we always say like now like we try to like stay away from like couples that will be like oh well you know he got to do it so it's not my turn and look at us now like that's how yeah and but like i just feel like i'm like okay well like i have to make this fair now like this has to be fair for you um especially because like we had never been with anybody else before we started so i'm like well this isn't fair like i i need to at least let him do something with another woman right so that leads us into our first couple experience um so our first couple experience we we found we found them on sls yes yeah we found them on sls i feel like that's where we found most people in the beginning was SLS.

Yeah. Um, we went over to, um, kick message after that, just cause that was the thing. Um, had a great conversation with them. Like you could tell that there was like, I think it was their first couple experience too. Yeah. It was their first, um, couple experience.

Um, and like I decided decided I I was open to it as well because I had always wanted to just try to be with another woman just to see what it was like and she had wanted to I can't remember if she had ever been with another woman or not I don't think so I don't think so i don't think we did some bi-play as well yeah um and like i don't think he had either so it was like kind of like a it was a lot of first yeah a lot of first like kind of experimenting yeah um but no like we talked on kick and we had lots of great conversations you could tell there was like a vibe chemistry there um and so they were like hey guys like you guys want to come to our house and hang out like we have a hot tub um and just you know hang out see where it goes yeah and we agreed so i mean you were nervous as oh my god i was was like nervous wreck you sent like a friend like this is my location this is where i'm going like i never go to strangers houses and so in case something happens to me this is where you need to send the police to right this is the address i'm going to be at here's my location like because it makes it sound like swingers are just out here just like trying to like you know like i'm not even gonna say it but like that's not what they're there for they just want to fuck like they're not trying to do anything else they're not trying to hurt you so don't be scared like you can be nervous when you go into somebody's house but you don't have to be scared like i mean like i remember like i like got the address and like i went on like google and i said okay this is a nice neighborhood like we're going to like like we're not just being like led into like this like you know seedy motel or like some warehouse or something like that that they sent us the address to like i kind of like looked it out like kind of felt it out it's like okay like this is kind of safe like we're good yeah like got the you know the google's whatever street view or something to see that it was like you know a nice looking house it was like we were going somewhere like just so then i kind of know like all right like where we're going and not like just going in their blind yeah and like you know the general area of where we are and stuff like that so they were probably an hour hour and a half yeah um away from us so um god i don't think we went to like eight o'clock at night yeah it was super super late when we went I'm like eight o'clock at night like we're not gonna get there till eight o'clock like but I feel like I think it was like a Friday night so it really wasn't it wasn't too bad because like you know I got off work I'm pretty sure they had to work like you had to work obviously yeah so it's not like we could have met at like five o'clock in the afternoon right um so we met we went in um we sat there and talked had drinks for the longest time i don't really feel like there was ever like an awkward moment like it was very just go with the flow like conversations just you know just conversations about you know just life and like just kind of we kind of got to know each other before um so we hung out had drinks for a while um she also had had a baby recently yeah probably i don't know four or five months maybe not like super old i think as long as that i think uh maybe six eight months old so the baby was there which was fine like she just had the little like monitor the baby was upstairs in her crib um like that was no big deal they did i think had an older child but the older child was yeah they weren't in their great parents house or something um so we went outside and they had a hot tub like on their back patio or porch or something yeah i vaguely remember and it was i mean like it wasn't a super secluded but it was private enough to where we could yeah like nobody like there weren't houses all of on you like to see and like it was like you could do stuff out there yeah it was secluded enough to where you know things could happen um so we went outside to hot tub we i think we kind of started playing with our own spouses first yeah and then we kind of i feel like you and him kind of like gave a nod like to each other or something yeah because like i feel like you and her like started playing out there and stuff like that and i'm like like oh my god it's like it's like my teenage fantasy like like all like teenage boys like you know think of like oh my god two women in a hot tub making out and it's like i look back now and i'm like i'm living the fucking dream like i get to see this this shit all the time like it would have known I would have grown up to you know be this like you know what some people can kind of think of what they're gonna but no I'm like I grew up doing this like you physically watched it like firsthand it was like right in front of your face um so like we did like like me and her did some things and then um like then we like switched and we just just did some like four-play stuff yeah just like nothing too serious yeah you're not gonna do a whole lot of playing in the hot tub yeah water doesn't really make the greatest lubricant waste um so like we did some stuff out there and then i think she was like hey like do you guys want to go inside like she had always had this um like fantasy of like a woman sitting on her face can i say that i mean you just did i just did so yeah so fine yeah so like that was like fucking shit so like that was a fantasy of hers so like you know we made that dream come true and then we um pretty sure we switched and did it the other way maybe i'm not really sure i feel like we played for a lot like a long time we did yeah we did um play for a long time and i mean like i don't i don't think i ever fully got hard i don't think he ever did either which that was kind of like my first like kind of like eye opening kind of like okay maybe it was just like my first time like i couldn't really get hard just really nervous like um but then he ended up finishing twice oh see i didn't even remember that yeah so like he finished with her and then remember he finished like didn't he like finish on your face or something the second time no no no that wasn't yeah i'm pretty sure that did not happen that was somebody else or maybe that's how you wanted at the end i know i didn't finish i don't think no you did oh i did do you not remember this no i'm telling oh my gosh we so should have talked about this before yeah so i'm pretty sure that he did it was i mean i had a few drinks i didn't have that much i know it was like little it was very very small now because like he had just finished okay so like he did a tiny bit on your face just by what you remember um but then after that um like he finished and then they were just like chilling on couch and we went over that's right yeah yeah we went because we were playing in their in their bedroom and then we went back out and played in the family room that's right i forgot about it and then like you really wanted like you really wanted to finish obviously so like i think i went over and like they were sitting on the couch and we just went in the middle of like their family room floor um and like idra sucked your dick till you came and like it fucking went everywhere like everywhere like it was all over their floor thank god they had hardwood floors like it was like there's all like cartoons where you see like the fireman jump on the hose and the hose just flies them around that's how it was yeah it was a lot but I mean like you had been like we had been doing stuff I mean for hours yeah at least two hours like it was it was a lot yeah um and I feel like that was like your first experience where they're like holy crap dude like where'd you get that from um like what do you do for that um i've got i've got a little satchel full of jizz in here that's you know um so like you finished um we obviously went and cleaned up i i think that we ended up actually getting me and her actually ended up getting in the shower together yeah um nothing happened you know in the shower like we just showered off real quick came back out i think her like child started crying or something like that so she went upstairs and got her child and just came back downstairs like we were all just like chilling downstairs naked and then we're like you know it's it's kind of late like we should probably yeah we didn't hang it because it was like one maybe two o'clock in the morning or something it was it was really late it was late for sure and then we still had to drive back home yeah so it was it was late yeah um but it was a good time yeah it was a good experience that had had a good first experience because i feel like if we didn't we probably wouldn't have continued you know like some people like have like bad experience um like with like with a couple yeah and then you're like you know do i continue doing this like you know because how can i compare you know my next one what it might be if my last one was not really good like yeah you know what I mean like if you you know you get on a bike and you fall the first time you don't really want to get back on it again um but we like having like you know people like their first time like like some people are like you know I don't want i don't want to deal with people you know their first time but like it doesn't it doesn't you know it doesn't bother us like like because we want them to have a good experience so that way then you know they enjoy doing it if they continue if they want to continue doing it of course right but we don't want to give somebody a bad experience yeah like i don't know like we and like we all talked after like the four of us talked after like it seems like we all had a great time um and it was obviously something that we wanted to like continue doing in the future and maybe work towards like being like doing something full swap versus um just doing the soft swap um and obviously that's all they were okay with was soft swap but that was fine because like that was really what i was okay with they just wanted to do it one time like she just wanted to have fantasy and that was it like yeah like she wasn't interested in continuing to do that which is totally fine yeah no that's fine like i'm glad that they like had a good experience and like we had a good experience and that's just like a good like memory that you have later on it's like you can check that off your bucket list like hey i did this like and now i know what it was like um so definitely two good experiences um yeah that we did have an experience in between that like that was not like that wasn't our first experience and then our second experience that was our first experience and then our first couple experience Um so we do have um had an experience experiences with somebody in between that yeah um but we are not going to talk about that today no um because i feel like that is really going to be a part one, part two, possibly a part three.

It's like a whole chapter of that, yeah. Like how, like depending on how far, of course, we go into detail about it.

But those were first experience, which was the bye, and bye experience, and then the first couple experience that we had, and there was both bye play in that as well um but that was kind of what we were hoping for it wasn't like it was just in the moment like hey like you know we're cool with doing this like that was something that we were kind of seeking out yeah like we wanted to find couples or men in the lifestyle that were bi like both by both female and male both being bi and um it's definitely a hard thing for sure yeah yeah it's hard to find them online because you know for the longest time I never like if you went to like I sell our SLS account like it would say like you were bi and Yeah.

Because I, you know, I didn't want pictures of me out there. People would be able to find it and be like, oh, well, he's bi. Like, I understand, like, they're on their, on that website for a reason anyways. Like, you're not just going to type in, you know, you're not going to be scrolling through Facebook and find somebody's SLS ad. Right. Or something like that. But still, you saw that fear, and so many other guys are like that.

you know they're they're worried about you know not only being judged by people in the non-swinging community but then also it's still judged by the you know swing community like we've talked in the past like you go to secrets like you see women out at the pool playing with each other all the time but now put two guys in there and play with each other what do you think the reactions are going to be yeah you're not going to have the same reaction there's still going to be a lot of people that are going to be like i don't want to see that shit and it's like why like if you don't like it then turn away turn around go look at something out go look at what you were watching before you turn around and saw that um so i do feel like there's still like that still there's fear and guys even in the swing community yeah there is for sure