In this episode, Kel from Expansive Connection discusses the pervasive issue of comparison, its roots in human evolution, and practical tools to manage it. The conversation explores how comparison imp…
We've talked about jealousy, we've talked about body image. We've discussed learning to flirt and being corageous in the lifestyle. But beneath the surface we all have insecurities about ourselves at …
There are no shortage of lifestyle sitiuations that will cause us some anxiety! Visiting a club for the first time, going on a first date, being rejected by others, wondering if our partner will 'find…
In this episode we review our trip to 'The Resort' which was first introduced by George in episode 137. The Resort is a new opportunity to step into ethical non-monogamy in a new format and market. Th…
Can the lifestyle become an addiction? Well, it can if we don't recognize what's going on in our brains. In this episode with Catherine from Expansive Connection, we break down the key components at p…
What does it take to be 'successful' as a couple in the world of non-monogamy? In this episode we discuss waht we believe to be the four most important characteristics of a power couple in the lifesty…
Do you struggle with your understanding of how non-monogamy reconciles with a life of faith? Join us for a thought provoking conversation with Dr Mitch G, the newest member of the Expansive Connection…
One of the most common concerns for those in the lifestyle or considering non-monogamy is the risk of contracting a sexually transmitted infection or disease. We invited Alan Brock, CEO, and Dr Willia…
We all know that all relationships, monogamous and non-monogamous, will change over time. Many of those changes will lead to the relationship ending. But does it have to end? Why can't the dynamics of…
This 'ask us anything' episode was recorded live at our 9th annual group trip to Desire Pearl. Not only did we answer questions but our friends helped us out by contributing as well. Use Promo Code: W…
As a follow up to our episode 142, we hear from Catherine about how the ending of her marriage is affecting her coaching business at Expansive Connection. Will her clients still trust her as a coach? …
We are joined by Dedeker, Emily and Jase from the Multiamory* podcast to discuss the similarities and differences between the swinging lifestyle and polyamory! We also talk about what exactly New Rela…
This episode gets very real and very personal. Catherine, from Expansive Connection Relationship Coaching, tells her story of how her marriage fell apart while engaged in a non-monogamous relationship…
Join us and Meshai from Expansive Connection Coaching as we discuss the six most important things those new to the lifestyle need to know and us veterans of the lifestyle need always to remember: Rad…
None of us are immune from having 'real life' issues disrupt our relationship or our current life plans and goals. Health issues, family responsibilities, career changes and relocations are just a few…
In episode 136 Kel, from Expansive Connection Coaching explained all nine Enneagram personality types and motivations. Listen in on this real-time coaching session as Kel reveals the Enneagram results…
When we hear the word 'swinger' or 'lifestyle' the first time we may think of key parties, sleezy sex clubs, orgies with strangers and lots of perverted people who will have sex with anyone. With how …
Join us as we chat with the founder of a brand new lifestyle vacation spot in Jamaica- 'The Resort.' This upscale venue gives lifestyle travelers an additional and much needed option for a sexy vacati…
Join us as Kel from Expansive Connection explains the Enneagram system which offers numerous benefits for personal and professional development by providing insights into motivations, behaviors, and r…
This 'Origin Story' format episode features our friends Kurt & Vicki and highlights another unique journey into and through non-monogamy. Perhaps their story of working through issues will resonate wi…
Are you considering trying non-monogamy or perhaps learning how to navigate the swinging lifestyle environment? Are you paralyzed by the 'what-ifs?' What if my partner falls in love with someone else?…
So you think you've got what it takes to be 'successful' in the swinging lifestyle? From our 11 years of experience, we share what we believe to be the most important attributes a person or couple mus…
Why do we usually react to the word 'different' as something negative? Our differences can help us to learn more about ourselves which can lead to individual growth as well as strengthen our relations…
What makes the WGT community unique? We are not a dating site. We are not like a Facebook group. Nor are we similar to a Discord server, a Slack channel, a Zoom meeting or a WhatsApp conversation. Wha…
Catherine from Expansive Connection Coaching joins us to help define that 'squishy' term that is a result of some combination of 'swinging' and 'polyamory.' She then discusses pro's and con's of what …
You're awake again at 3:00am. You can't go back to sleep. You calculate how much sleep you'll have if you go back to sleep right now. Then, while staring at the ceiling, a voice inside your head decid…
We are contantly bombarded with lifestyle symbols and the promises they bring of attracting lifestyle couples to us in our day-to-day lives! From upside down pineapples in the grocery store, to black …
What is trust not? Trust is not a feeling that someone else creates in us with their actions. Some of us think we can trust people only when they are doing what we want them to do so we don't feel unc…
Fearing or experiencing jealousy is one of the biggest reasons couples either don't try the lifestyle or don't last in the lifestyle. Why is that? It's more complex than we realize! Join us as Catheri…
Please join us in celebrating 10 years recording the We Gotta Thing podcast! This is a very special episode recorded live with a group of our closest friends at the Desire Pearl resort. We thank all o…
Meshai from Expansive Connection Coaching joins us as we dive into the topic of being rejected in the lifestyle. We all experience the negative emotions when rejected by others and Meshai helps us to …
Why do we want to connect with others? What are some ways we connect with others? What types of connections may we experience? How do we stay connected? What happens if we become disconnected with oth…
Jason from Expansive Connection Coaching joins us this month to discuss the 'non-quantifiable' work involved in exploring non-monogamy. Based on our WGT episode 100 in which we discuss the quantifiabl…
Listen in as our friends Mark and Beth share their unique journey into and exploration of non-monogamy! We also review our Virgin Cruise out of Barcelona and discuss our first local lifestyle meet and…
Kel from Expansive Connection coaching joins us to discuss some of the benefits and challenges one may encounter when choosing to explore the non-monogamous lifestyle. Kel shares from her perspective …
Having experienced counseling ourselves over the past few months, we invite Catherine from Expansive Connection to talk with us about how those in non-monogamous relationships benefit from getting gui…
Listen in as we review the brand new "The Eden" section of Desire Riviera Maya! We also enlist the help of many of our friends in a live recording from the resort to share how they challenged themselv…
Most of us have mastered being 'adult-like' in all aspects of our lives. We are experienced at life. We are parents, spouses/partners, coaches, employees, teachers, leaders and friends. We've become a…
Being vulnerable is not easy and may not come natural for some, espcially when exploring the lifestyle. We tend to wall off our personal lives because we're worried about people knowing too much about…
Are you the type of person who puts the feelings of others above of your own? Do you want to have a stronger voice when someone suggests something you don't necessarily want to do? You are not alone! …
We explore the perceptions and realities of what, exactly a kiss can mean to those in the lifestyle community. Does granting a kiss commit me to a sexual experience? Why do some couples have a 'no kis…
Listen in on our live recording from Desire Pearl where our guests discuss their unique perspectives, perceptions and realities of the term 'clothing optional.' Most of us struggle with self-confidenc…
Join Mr & Mrs Jones and they interview "Scott & Kelly." This couple's journey into the lifestyle sounds like many other origin stories but then takes a bit of a turn when a family member shares some u…
As newbies we started our lifestyle journey looking for people to connect with and then explore sexually. Back then it was all about the excitment, the taboo nature of the lifestyle and a boost to our…
Chris and Nancy share their amazing and unique story of finding the lifestyle through a period of intense emotional exploration after being together for more than 20 years. We've learned that no relat…
Many couples ask about how to 'successfully' navigate a clothing optional resort. How do we find couples like us? How do we socialize with others without them thinking it's an invitation to play? How …
In advance of our group trip to Temptation Grand Miches in the Dominican Republic we visited the resort to experience it ourselves. Through construction delays, supply chain disruptions, hurricanes an…
We hear story after story about the difficulties many (and mostly newer) couples in the lifestyle experience when encountering 'cliques' while attending events, visiting clubs or attending parties or …
Listen in on our conversation with our friends "J&B 2.0" as they share their particular story of how they discovered and began exploring the lifestyle together! They are funny, smart and very real as …
Finding lifestely events and then choosing which event is the best fit for your approach to the lifestyle can be difficult and often confusing. Listen in as we chat with event host Cate from Libertine…
Listen in as our event guests discuss working through their individual fears, anxieties and challenges at a clothing optional resort during our week together at Desire Pearl Resort just south of Cancu…
We sit down with four of our lifestyle friends and share real stories about what it's like to experience hurt feelings during an event and how to dissect, debrief, discover and confront the root cause…
We discuss four distinct behaviors we consider to be deal breakers to moving forward and possibly making new lifestyle friends and connecting with potential play partners. Sharing opinions on politic…
Finding your tribe, making lifelong friends, connecting for sexy playtime and growing your primary relationship are just a few ways to define 'success' in the lifestyle. Many may mistakenly believe yo…
New Relationship Energy (NRE) is that sexual buzz we feel when we first meet and connect with a couple or individual. We discuss navigating this heightened state of emotional and sexual feelings by pr…
As the idea and exploration of consensual non-monogamy continues to grow we have noticed the need for organized community. The different flavors and diverse approaches means that one size does not fit…
To quote Mrs Jones, "we should be an example and not a blueprint." It may seem natural to adapt our 'thing' into your lifestyle journey but that could be a mistake. Giving yourselves an opportunity to…
Catherine (one of our favorite humans) and her team from Expansive Connection join us to discuss how they have created a unique method of coaching non-monogamous people! Not only do they offer a 'judg…
We often hear couples suggest they are taking a break from the lifestyle due to 'real life' issues. We also hear some say that 'real life' is getting in the way of their lifestyle activities. In thi…
Have you experienced lifestyle play partners getting a little upset when you choose to spend time with others? How about hard feelings when one of you seems to be enjoying the lifestyle more than the …
This is the most important topic that nobody wants to talk about! Chances are this won't happen to you (as it did us) but we still want to help prepare you just in case... We reflect back on our exper…
Listen in as our guests share their Desire Pearl 2021 snapshots in a recorded-live conversation from the resort! Some are thoughtful and meaningful, some are sexy and others are downright hilarious! O…
This month we discuss why other couples reject us when reaching out from a lifestyle dating site and how to improve our chances of success in the future. This episode complements our episode 62 "Putti…
We discuss the importance of trust from four different angles: trusting your relationship, trusting each other, trusting other couples and trusting who you are becoming in the lifestyle. Also, I (Mr J…
Group play can be fun but also tricky! In this episode we explore the benefits and pitfalls and share our perspective on how we approach and navigate playing in larger groups. We also recap our very f…
No matter how long you've been in the lifestyle you are going to make mistakes. So we've come up with a few tips to help you minimize those mistakes and make your play experiences more meaningful and …
In this episode we discuss how our perceptions change to our reality the more we are exposed to actual events. All of us have pre-lifestyle perceptions, newbie lifestyle perceptions and even veteran l…
There are perceptions in the lifestyle that a woman must be 'bi-something' to attract and connect with other couples. On the men's side of things there is a double standard and a stigma attached to be…
Perhaps you have not had your first play experience yet or haven't had one in a very long time due to the current pandemic. Preparing for that first play experience creates a lot of build up, anticipa…
Do you struggle with if, when and how to tell other couples you're not interested in meeting? What about after you've played and you've lost interest? What if they ask you why you aren't interested? W…
Not only does real life often get in the way of engaging in the lifestyle, but simply staying sexually connected as a couple is a struggle. Add a global pandemic to the mix and you have the perfect st…
We believe there are three important components of compatibility that we need to consider when trying to find connections with people in the lifestyle: General Compatibility, Safety & Health Compatibi…
In this episode we discuss the idea that there is a unique language spoken by those in the swinging lifestyle. We believe this language is comprised of four distinct elements: the language of speaking…
We talk a lot about all the special friendships we've made in the lifestyle and many of you express frustration over finding the type of connections we describe. In this episode we offer tips on what …
It's not a secret that engaging in the lifestyle can be expensive! In this episode we discuss budgeting tips for your lifestyle adventures and why we prioritize spending money on us as an investment i…
Men are programmed through all aspects of life to avoid showing interest in other women. But now we are in this lifestyle where other women expect us to show some interest. This is so confusing! How a…
Before entering the lifestyle or becoming experienced in the lifestyle we never imagined doing some of the things we've actually done and things we've learned about the lifestyle. We share how our per…
As we are mired in the current pandemic many of us are being pulled back away from our social and sexual mindsets. When we are concerned about our jobs, our children, our families and our health we ne…
Erectile Dysfunction and Performance Anxiety are often misunderstood by many in the lifestyle. Numerous couples experience this issue but don't take the time to acknowledge, openly discuss, research a…
As we all focus on staying well during this pandemic we thought it a good time to talk about a few health related issues and how they impact our lifestyle journey. "Mr Night" is a certified Family Nur…
We've all heard the term 'opposites attract' when talking about relationships. Does the same hold true when finding connections in the lifestyle? Do we search for people just like our partners or do w…
We are all guilty of creating false narratives and making up those stories in our heads as we consider approaching another couple in the lifestyle. Sometimes we don't even give the other couple a chan…
In this episode we discuss the issue of 'Kissing and Telling' in the lifestyle. How do you feel about couples sharing personal details about a private play experience? Do you share details with others…
Listen in on our conversation with a resort full of imperfect but beautiful ladies! The ladies of Desire discuss what they've had to realize and overcome in order to enjoy and grow into the lifestyle.…
We all agree consent is a bedrock principle in the lifestyle but most conversations around this topic focus on verbal consent. We'll talk about using our words but will also consider two additional d…
Topic- Some people are either put off by the term "swinger" or have misperceptions of what it really means today. We've decided to use the term 'Social Sexy' to describe how we view and engage with ot…
We discuss identifying red flags in other couples and how to respond when you see them. We also talk about red flags that pop up within your own relationship and how, if left unresolved can lead to yo…
When first considering reasons for entering the lifestyle making lifelong friends is not normally the goal. But after getting used to connecting with people and having some sexy playtimes we begin to …
Discussion topic: We often focus on rules and guidelines "inside the bedroom" but in this episode we discuss what we consider to be the golden rules of the lifestyle outside of the bedroom. The import…
Join our conversation with Bomber and The Belle from the Black & Kinky Podcast as we discuss the issue of race in the lifestyle today. As a black couple they share their perspective, experience, opini…
In this episode we discuss what "chemistry" in the lifestyle means to us and how it's different from attraction. Is chemistry between others instantaneous? Can chemistry with others fade over time? H…
In this episode we talk with the creators of the brand new lifestyle website Double Date Nation, Dave and Andi. The four of us discuss our ideas and share our opinions on how best to create and optim…
George has been hosting elaborate and sexy lifestyle events all over the world for 15 years. Since we've attended several and get many questions about these 'mysterious' lifestyle gatherings we though…
Discussion Topic: In Part 2 of our judgment series we are joined by our "much younger friends" to talk about how age factors in to meeting, connecting and even playing with couples who are much older …
Discussion Topic: We all have experienced being judged. However, we don't often reflect on how we judge others or why so many people in the lifestyle still tend to judge. We discuss how we are wired…
Discussion Topic: The swinging lifestyle is a place we go to grow our relationship. But to experience any kind of personal or relationship growth we must step out of and beyond our comfort zones. Lis…
Discussion Topic: Does being in the lifestyle mean a race to full-swap? Will we find ourselves always wanting more? Why does trying the lifestyle seem like a risk to our relationship? Will we become a…
Discussion Topic: Using Stephen Covey's Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, we align how those same habits can make you successful as a couple in the swinging lifestyle. Travel with us to Desire …
Discussion topic: In this episode we catch you all up to date on what we've been going through since we were "outed" as lifestyle podcasters 18 months ago. Through all the turmoil we lost our "happy …
Discussion topic: Most agree we'd like to avoid any drama in a lifestyle experience. But is this a realistic expectation? Is drama such a bad thing? Do we know what drama really is and is not? How s…
Discussion topic: In this episode we discuss the tension between wanting to be discreet yet at the same time wanting to know as much as possible about others. Too much discretion and nobody knows you …
Discussion Topic: We share sexy stories from our trip to Desire Pearl and discuss the benefits and drawbacks of sexual play with newbies and veteran couples in the swinging lifestyle. Spoiler alert: w…
Discussion Topic- Whether it's your very first play experience or you've been swinging for years awkward encounters will always be a part of your lifestyle journey. We share some awkward lifestyle mom…
Discussion Topic: In this episode we celebrate the milestone of reaching 50 episodes by reflecting on our lifestyle journey thus far. We are learning a lot and having a loads of fun but it's the peopl…
Discussion Topic: Mrs Jones is joined live by "C" from the Swinging Downunder podcast to discuss what the two ladies believe men need to know and understand to be successful in the swinging lifestyle.…
Discussion Topic In this episode we discuss the difference between being courageous and being confident as you enter and navigate the swinging lifestyle. Many people say "just be confident" and you'll…
Discussion Topic- In this episode we discuss how we see the lifestyle bumping up against real life. Personally we are becoming more "out" as swingers, more and more mainstream media is reporting on s…
Discussion Topic- Connecting with your play partner while trying to maintain a connection with your own partner is a balancing act many find difficult to achieve. This month we discuss the challenge …
Discussion Topic- Navigating this lifestyle can be awkward at times, especially when trying to transition from conversation to playtime. We discuss our experience in this area and share some tips to …
Our New Online Lifestyle Course is Live!Our new online lifestyle course called Navigating Your Lifestyle Journey is now available! We've created 6 modules and over 40 lessons to help you move into the…
Announcing our special projectMrs Jones and I are developing an online lifestyle course called Navigating Your Lifestyle Journey to be released in December 2017! We've created 6 modules and over 30 le…
Discussion Topic: Setting expectations is something we (and many couples) struggle with in the lifestyle. With expectations usually comes disappointment. Disappointment can lead to leaving the lifes…
Discussion Topic: Way back on WGT Episode 3 we discussed Mr Jones's struggle with jealousy when we entered the lifestyle. In this episode we welcome Catherine, a licensed professional counselor AND s…
Discussion Topic- Many couples approaching the lifestyle consider clothing optional resorts as a first step on their journey. This episode we tackle some commonly held beliefs and fears regarding clo…
Read our latest newsletter here and then Subscribe to our newsletter here! Keeping up with the Joneses We update you on our new business ventures and Mr Jones makes his request to Mrs Jones for his ho…
Read our latest newsletter here and then Subscribe to our newsletter here! Keeping up with the Joneses We recap the highlights of our experiences at Naughty in N'awlins 2017! Our WGT Meet & Greet and…
Discussion topic: This month we stray from our regular format to talk about being "outed" as podcasters in the lifestyle. We discuss what happened, how it impacted our lives, how we managed the fallo…
Keeping up with the Joneses "Friends" from out of town drop by for a few sexy encounters and we chat about the half-marathon that almost happened. Discussion topic We break down lifestyle friendships …
Keeping up with the Joneses This episode we share three explicit experiences, a weekend with some "tried and true" LS friends, an evening with our new Texas friends and (queue the trumpets) our first …
Keeping up with the Joneses This month we catch you up on our date(s) with a "unicorn", an evening in our swinger pad with good friends, a somewhat vanilla work party at our house and a family event. …
Keeping up with the Joneses This month we catch you up on the sexy weekend we had with a very special couple as the four of us visited the Trapeze Club in Atlanta, Georgia. Oh, and you'll also want t…
Keeping up with the Joneses Our trip to Desire Pearl is set! Join us the week of November 11-18, 2017 as we bring T&A from The Curious Couple and C&D from the Swinging Downunder podcasts to meet you a…
Keeping up with the JonesesOur new website is live! Come take a look at wegottathing.com and let us know what you think. We also share what sexy things we've been up to this month to include pushing …
Discussion Topic In this bonus episode we discuss an issue that most couples will face, one way or another, during their journey through the lifestyle. Jay and Kay from "That Couple Next Door" podcas…
Keeping up with the Joneses A lifestyle "happy hour" with "sexy" lifestyle friends, an intimate conversation with "new" lifestyle friends and we share some playtime with "old" lifestyle friends, and a…
Keeping up with the Joneses After a bit of a rant from Mr Jones, we chat about a local date with a new couple that didn't go as well as we would've liked. Topic We talk about our week in paradise! Aft…
Discussion topic Listen in as we chat at Desire Pearl with Jay and Nathan, an Indian couple from Edmonton, Canada, who were brought together in an arranged marriage. If you think you know what an arr…
Keeping up with the Joneses We share our "creed": who we are, where we are coming from, why we share and the purpose of our podcast. We also share a sexy tale after a special visit from friends we me…
Keeping up with the Joneses We discuss our evening with J and K from the That Couple Next Door podcast and we thank you, our listeners for voting for us and making We Gotta Thing a finalist in the Ann…
Keeping up with the Joneses Dinner with new friends, hosting new friends in the "Swinger Pad" and a night out with Jay and Kay from That Couple Next Door podcast. Discussion topic We recap our trip to…
Discussion topicIn this special episode we'd like to share our "single guy" with you all! We hope that listening to Tony will help couples navigate the single guy experience and help those aspiring s…
Keeping up with the Joneses Afternoon delight with good friends, Mr and Mrs Jones's reconnection time, Dan Savage's Humpfest and why you shouldn't drink beer all day before running a half-marathon. D…
Keeping up with the JonesesA vanilla race weekend, a hot quickie with good friends before vacation, sexy fun with the Sapphic Swingers, a trip to Trapeze Club in Fort Lauderdale and a weekend double-h…
Keeping up with the Joneses- another try at a house party, a visit from our Florida friends, single guy #2 and a "shake down" cruise of our new swinger pad. Discussion Topic- We discuss how we approac…
Keeping up with the Joneses- a visit from mid-west friends, Mrs Jones joins the Vino Ladies and a house party with a communications issue (oops)! Discussion topic- Do You Know George? We do! We share …
Keeping up with the Joneses- We Gotta Thing-o, Naughty stockings, a birthday double blow job, a trip to Pittsburg, new play friends and your hairdresser said what? Discussion topic- we talk about the …
Keeping up with The Joneses- Sexy times with special friends and a hot night for just us two!Discussion Topic- We talk about how we reconcile our Christian faith with our lifestyle journey.Snapshots- …
Keeping up with the Joneses- Goodbye Paige and Penn, Halloween party, dinner dates (good and bad) and good friends Discussion Topic- Emotional monogamy and sexual non-monogamy Snapshots- Special guest…
Keeping up with the Joneses- Another spectacular house party, a visit by our Florida friends, fun at a Meet & Greet and dinner with a special listener Discussion Topic- Here's what Mr & Mrs Jones from…
Keeping up with The Joneses- Changes to our music format; Email us!!; Playtime at home Discussion Topic- Mr Jones interviews Mrs Jones about the past year in the lifestyle Snapshots- We share ours and…
This bonus episode 13 part 2 was originally posted on the Swinger Diaries podcast in August 2015. Swinger Diaries is no longer podcasting so we are posting this episode to complete the story of our t…
Special Episode! In this episode we are joined by Paige and Penn from Swinger Diaries and we all discuss our hot, sexy and fun times together at Naughty in N'awlins! Catch part 2 of this episode on th…
Keeping up with The Joneses- A dinner party, a house party and an apartment party Discussion Topic- Our Naughty in N'awlins experience Snsapshots- Side by side service and the ponytail holder Mentione…
Keeping up with The Joneses- Desire Pearl: The Resort Discussion Topic- Desire Pearl: The Experience Snapshots- Sex fort orgasm and caught red-handed Mentioned in this episode Desire Pearl Naughty in …
Episode 10: We've Come "Full" Circle Keeping up with The Joneses- Hot (some not) Dates at the beach. Discussion Topic- Navigating back to full swap; handling uncomfortable advances. Snapshots- "…
Keeping up with The Joneses- Why yes, we do know George! Discussion Topic- Who are you? Who are we? Our experience with swinger date site profiles. Snapshots- Mrs Jones- Dirty dancing in a vanilla dis…
Boy, do we have a lot to talk about this month....... Keeping up with The Joneses- A dinner and a "hot" hot tub date; a night out in Miami; the dreaded vanilla cruise; an awesome house party.. …
Keeping up with the Joneses This month we skip out of a marriage conference early to attend a swinger lifestyle meet and greet. Are we bad? We also talk about a local date for dinner. Discussion top…
In this bonus episode we veer from our normal format to chat with Cooper, host of the "Life on the Swingset" podcast, about his new book "My Life on the Swingset" and other sex-positive topics. As yo…
Listen in to our conversation about whether or not it's the right time for us to move from soft swap to full!
Join us as we discuss (in detail) our swinging experiences at the Sinn-ergy James Bond New Year's Eve hotel takeover and party!
Join us as we discuss the topic of jealousy and other emotions from our own experience as we entered the lifestyle.
Join us as we discuss what we've been up to in the lifestyle. We share an experience with another couple after our first date, our hot experiences at Desire Pearl and our sexy snapshots of our swingi…
Greetings! We are Mr and Mrs Jones and We Gotta Thing! This is the first episode of our podcast and we are so glad you've joined us. We are fairly new at this and want to share our adventures (the go…
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