Wall/feed feature going away

Gainesville, FL, Us

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=18667678">vabeachcouple33</a>,</p>

<p>We look at what we see people posting in the Forums.</p>

<p>The ticket system has a "Feedback" category. We look at those when people use it.</p>

<p>We have an email address: <a href="mailto:complaints@dashboardhosting.com">complaints@dashboardhosting.com</a>.</p>

<p>Our Club Coordinator/SLS Radio/DJ goes to events and sometimes gets feedback there.</p>

<p>I know the owner has gotten feedback from Bliss Cruise passangers on the cruises.</p>

<p>Some things just have to be done based on new laws or because the owner wants it done that way.</p>

<p>Also, the company looks at gross sales and the lack of negative feedback (happy customers generally don't leave any feedback).</p>

<p>For messages, many people say that "no response is a response". If that is the case, then no feedback is positive feedback.</p>

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GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

"SLS (aka Wayne) reported that we were the oddballs and that feedback was overwhelmingly positive."

I'm going to draw the conclusion that SLS (aka Wayne) has the opinion that Forum participants are the oddballs of the SLS membership.

2bi24funMember
Perris, CA, Us

Maybe they should work on the search or why won't it update ages so they are current there is plenty of thing that can be updated and brought up to 2025

Windermere, FL, Us

Just a question re: "member feedback"

My experience on this site is that what users in here are reporting is completely different than what SLS says they are reporting.

Is there some sort of user feedback mechanism I'm not aware of?

For example: when SLS got rid of emails and the feedback in here was 20,000:0 unfavorable, SLS (aka Wayne) reported that we were the oddballs and that feedback was overwhelmingly positive.

How was anyone providing positive feedback? Online reviews? Emails?

When the wall came out, practically everyone i saw said it was dumb and useless. SLS aka Wayne reported that feedback (from sources unknown) was positive.

There is either A) a feedback mechanism that i am not aware of or B) SLS just says what they want to say and reports feedback in accordance with the desired outcome.

And if the answer is "messages" - messages to who/what?

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

Dammit, a typo.

I think I'll go post on the Wall about my desire for an "Edit Post" feature. I've mentioned it before in the Forum, guess the suggestion will get received there as well as it did in the Forum.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

It's a bug for a COVID induced idea?

Roll up your sleeve Wall and take a jab (or 2) from Pfizer or Moderna. It's for the team, and your gonna die anyway.

Gainesville, FL, Us

<p>Mayhem8,</p>

<p>The issue is those blank profiles are new profiles. They haven't been filled out and approved yet. It's a bug.</p>

<p>If the wall was working right, you would all only be seeing posts from paid members that are on your Friends list.</p>

<p>This is one reason why we are taking it down. The wall was rushed into production for COVID. It was a feature that was made open as an alternative to swinging during a time when no one knew if "swinging" was going to be over for a very long time.</p>

ncwvRegular
Knoxville, TN, Us

The issue with SlS pics vs other is SLS' attempt at a shitty app. Google and Apple have very tight restrictions on what can be shown via an app in their stores. In order to comply, SLS has to make sure no naked photos are shown. But they pawn that chore off on Lifetime members rather than internal staff. It's really a slippery slope because it's not the members that are breaking TOS if they classify a photo wrong but SLS.

Im only aware of one other site that has an app. It gets around the Google/Apple TOS by essentially opening an internal browser rather than an "app". But that site has clearly been coded in something newer than the mid 90s.

owcangraceRegular
Morganton, NC, Us

ncwv - Taking up for Wayne? Correct but definitely not actually Wayne nor anyone associated with SLS. Just a realist who disagrees with you for the reasons already stated.The basic one is I can pick apart ANY of the competition and show how they are weak in ways that REALLY matter.Show you where they are far from intuitive. Oh and someone saying something is intuitive is like a person saying it is common sense, both are opinions and quite often hilariosly inept and wrong for many. Do have a good one.

owcangraceRegular
Morganton, NC, Us

The people complain about pic uploads rae saying it is BULKY/CLUNKY BUT that is not the issue that causes their angst. SLS seriously attempts to control content into Public, Private and Personal. Other sites do the same bloody thing. On ALL sites I have seen with say public and private(most common) you still have to do the same thing. SO I do not get their complaints. One mentioned attaching to an email as easier? I'm with Wayne, tools,manage photos, choose area and upload) pretty damn easy. Now if what you are really saying is I just want to upload any content without classification of it, you apparently are asking SLS to drop the SLS attempts to control levels of content.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

I think the way new profiles come up for approval would make it extremely "iffy" to get your own fake/free profile come up for an unlimited member to approve.

I don't know how I "score" on correctly approving profiles but I'm at 99% for photos, so apparently somebody from management looks at the picture approvals but not profile approval.

I've sent many profiles to be looked at "by others" or whatever it says, i.e. not approved them, because something just seemed "off" as well as some that obviously violated the site's TOS.

Pictures are kinda scary. Aside from a lot of "WT double F, F is that?!?!?" pictures ,there are a lot of close up dick picks that about poke your eye out when they show up. They fill the whole screen. Geezus dude, aren't 9 different views of that thing enough? The 10th was too much...

There should be a "Not even suitable for the Dark Web" button.

mayhem8Veteran
Auburn, NH, Us

So I can see a possibilty where a paid member creates an empty blank profile, then approves it. Sounds like they want to do things that can't be traced back to them, and the Wall access gives them the ability to do just that.

It there a way to track who approved a profile or is it just 'Admin" or "Unlimited member" that is tracked? I'm assuming there's some level of tracking unless Wayne was just assuming only an Unlimited member would approve a blank profile.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

I'll say it again, it appears free members can post on the wall. Some of the free members that post have absolutely nothing in the profile. I mean not a single word, number etc. For some reason, some of those show up as being over 5,000 miles from me. 5.885 seems to be a mileage I see a lot but there is no city, state nation listed. Absolutely nothing is in the profile.

So, an Unlimited Member approved those completely void Free Member profiles and then those Free Members are allowed to see and post on the Wall?

If that's the case, I'd suggest that SLS management revaluate their policy about allowing Free Members access to the Wall, but the Wall has been scheduled for the wrecking ball.

The wrecking ball is scheduled "Mickey soon".

People familiar with a certain Politics' participant should understand that concept, the rest of you, yeah, just be glad you don't have a clue WTF that means.

Gainesville, FL, Us

<p>Goodenuff,</p>

<p>I see what happened. I didn't read your post closely enough and thought you meant they posted a phone number on the wall. I checked the wall and didn't see it, so I thought another staff member had already deleted it. I see now that the phone number was in a profile. Unlimited members approved that profile, so no staff member would ever see it unless someone reported it. I got your report and deleted the profile. Thank you.</p>

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

OK, so the Wall post I mentioned is still there as is the profile as written. My mentioning of it was kind of a test to see if anyone at SLS would notice. Wayne replied in here and nothing happened.

So I reported the free profile containing the phone number. Your welcome SLS.

Not related to the discussion about the Wall, but apparently profiles with phone numbers get past the profile reviewers.

Phoenix, AZ, Us

"For the forums, you need to report content for us to check it."

It's not my TOS that's being violated. I'll report people talking about kids and animals. Otherwise you folks are on your own.

"How could it be made simpler?"

We recently joined another site and uploading a photo is as simple as attaching something to an email. I didn't have to faff around trying to remember where the photo portion was, either the site did the resizing or it wasn't bothered by the file size, and the entire process took less than 30 seconds.

ncwvRegular
Knoxville, TN, Us

Because it's hidden on the site. You either have to go to "Tools" and navigate thru there or access it through the edit profile after going to Galleries. It's far from intuitive. Also, why do the colors change when I go to Tools? It appears to be some older version of the site that uses a slightly different shade of blue.

On other sites, it is a straightforward process. Either it is its own link under or directly there under galleries when you access them. On a certain fetish site, when i access the pictures section on my own profile, the first link at the top is to add a picture.

Gainesville, FL, Us

<p>ncwv,</p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">"It's 10x more complicated to upload a picture here than any other site out there hands down."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">How so? You select a category, "Choose Images", select your picture(s) and then upload. How could it be made simpler?</span></p>

ncwvRegular
Knoxville, TN, Us

Owcangrace - That's alot of defending the site. You sure you aren't Wayne parading around as another profile or being paid to say this by SLS?

SLS has simply been around the longest compared to everything else out there. It was the first mainstream and as such srill holds the lions share. But still doesn't negate the fact it's clunky and basic features aren't even possible. Heck, my post below is in 2 different size fonts for some reason. The interface is junk. It's 10x more complicated to upload a picture here than any other site out there hands down.

And any business that wants to grow has to reinvest in that business from time to time. SLS hasn't invested anything into this site beyond emergency fixes over the years to keep it running. It's the IT equivalent of duct tape and bondo now.

Gainesville, FL, Us

<p>For the forums, you need to report content for us to check it. Otherwise, we will probably never see it or know about it. We check the wall posts, but it may take us 24 hours (or longer over holidays and weekends) to see and remove the content. </p>

<p>The ability to block phrases exists, but we cannot block "kik" as that would block anyone living in Waikiki or whose name is Kiki. It doesn't work anyway, because they would spell it: kick or kiik or kiiik or kiiiik or klk or k-i-k or k.i.k. I'm sure you get the picture. The permutations are almost endless.</p>

<p>Here is one from this morning (where we do try to block kik): klillk_at_xxxx</p>

<p>Phone numbers have the same issue. I have seen people enter their phone number as Morse code to get by the blocks.</p>

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

With the Forum, at least you have to be a paid member and open a specific discussion to read it et alone post.

What appears to be free profiles that haven't been approved (i.e. there isn't even a single word in the profile) post on the Wall.

As near as I can tell, everybody, regardless of membership status, can see everything on the Wall and can post anything on the wall.

Phoenix, AZ, Us

"...I replaced what appears to be a real cell phone number with the "##########"."

Eh. There's a post on one of the forums that has a Kik address and it's been up for at least five hours. Not saying the wall is something I've ever seen a use for, but since there isn't code preventing sharing your cell number or your Kik address, stuff is going to get through.

GoodenuffVeteran
Brooklyn Park, MN, Us

RE: An earlier post I made here...

A My Wall post that has now been up for 6 hours:

"Wanting to show off my body to friends"

Hmmm, a post by a new (within 13 hours), free profile. According to the profile:

"Him: Bi Curious, 33 5'3" 144lbs

Tagline: What if I play around with you and I can do what you want me to do for you or others free spanking

Looking For: Men that can bring me out n show off to the guys make them want me as well

Description: Shot short tan build but curvy like nice tits na women butt that u'll love to spanking

Fantasies and/or real Experiences: Orgi group sex outside with video recording me for your own play time or sell it?

Additional Comments: ##########ill tex you some pictures of my body and I'll grab a dildo for you"

Not an exact C&P of the profile content, I replaced what appears to be a real cell phone number with the "##########".

I think even Mr. Gotbachev would tear down this wall.

owcangraceRegular
Morganton, NC, Us

ncwv or whatever LOL - You have an opinion, as do we all. The continued supremacy of SLS proves the market disagrees with you and therefore you are in the minority. I am seeing MORE 20 - 30 yr old members than I have ever seen at SLS and we have been members since 2008. That would imply that the newer generations, more technical than the previous generations, do not share your views. there are many ways in the world for anything and SLS is the best. Are they the best in every nuance? Hell no. No service, package etc is. Does it have clunky areas, yes. But many here need to tone down complaints, get constructive and accept it is a business with an infrastructure that is older. I have experience in building systems and I would suspect SLS is at the stage, that it has been modified so much from it's backbone, that it is in effect like a house built one room at a time vs a new build. That maintaining the enhancements is a significant cost and work load. Many have suggested that it should be rebuilt and while I get the sentiment, I also get the cost involved AND more importantly the RISK to the business. So let's see we are number 1 but we should build everything brand new and risk that? When the competition while "slicker" is some regards is a lesser product overall. Think about it. Last though I do believe your comment on lifetime membership being a key competitive edge, I agree. It also means INCREDIBLE value for those who do stick around, #1 platform at a decreasing average monthly cost with each month. The other sites, $$ outflow with more modern "look" but the core mission, it doesn't deliver on near as well.

ncwvRegular
Knoxville, TN, Us

I would reply to ownacouple or whatever the name is but I didn't commit it to memory before clicking the reply. Other sites allow a direct reply to a post so people aren't scrolling thru 20 posts to figure out which comment someone is replying to.

If a site such as this needs a "learning curve" to figure out how it works, it's clunky hands down. We are on multiple other sites and despite the fact SLS may have the larger user base, they won't spend money for a site they can't figure out in 5-10 minutes and still has the look of the 1980s Dixie cup. Truthfully, if we hadnt spent the money for lifetime 16 years ago, we sure as heck wouldn't now.

Any "cert" system has flaws and workarounds short of interfacing with a government database. Which i think we all can agree we don't want here. To claim one is better than another is hyperbole. And as for security, SLS is at the bottom of the heap. We have been here long enough to be notified of multiple breaches here alone. And when the look of a site seems dated, it doesn't matter if the code is solid. Nobody is going to trust the security of a site when it looks 30 years old.