@ocbj - that’s what we thought was happening. Many people also thought with the announcement of a complete rebrand, new forthcoming features, new home page, and statement Unlimited members would be ported over that’s what was happening. Logically one would come to that conclusion, but it was confirmed by Wayne that no new site is coming.
@CNB. I’m still laughing at your comment about hacking up the code, monkeys capable of fixing it; the timelines, etc…Then it dawned on me. The semester computer class is on Mon, We’d and Fri with lab on Tues and Thurs. I think we have all come to a conclusion that if you hired quality people, in a months time, a beta test would occur and all would be corrected. Instead of buying new shoelace’s, the old ones just keep getting knotted up. SLS has no real interest improving anything. If they did, they would generate an informational message explaining the creation of a new site as an improvement from this one citing the problems with this version. At least acknowledging it would be well received. That said, I’ve seen more paid members become free members lately.
@twoforfun - someone else made mention of this happen where messages/history just vanished. It’s hard to say because the messaging system has just never been reliable. It could be any number of glitches causing it and it sounds like the dev team is also working on the message system which could have an impact on usage.
I like the birdie..it was there for a while. Gone again. It makes me smile
Good old days
Anyone elses mail in their mailbox get deleted or vanish? We had 3 messages from people we were communicating with an they are now gone smh.
@Onehorneywife - your thought is correct.
“I feel bad for Wayne and the support people who have to keep covering for the ongoing trainwreck dev disaster. ”
He can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m 99.9% certain Wayne posted a couple months ago that he is now in charge of the developers. Team meeting every morning with them.
OHW - I mean, it's clear at this point that what we have is what were going to get. We've reached the "take it or leave it" stage of the game.
Here is a thought. Maybe the bone head working on the site and writing the code is the owner of the company. Being he is the boss no one is going to tell him how to do anything.
Over the years, we've seen a lot of "changes" to the site. Offhand I can't think of ANY where I've thought Oh - this is a nice new feature, or Oh - this really works a lot better. Most every change just seems to break something that used to work, the site just gets worse, more ugly, less functionality. Dev time is wasted on things like pointless stupid annoying distracting animated logos, while no effective action is applied to the real longstanding operational problems and critical features that users complain about.
Just about every single time, when the "developer" goes in and hacks up code, the site gets broken or works worse. It seems evident that he goes in, breaks things, and just can't figure out how to fix it or even restore to the old working code and un-do the damage he just did. Hacking around with untested code on the live production system is inexcusable. Any "real" IT organization does these things on a test platform before deployment. Make me wonder what chaos is going on with the backend management.
Example - the new mail indicator has been bonkers for months, how hard can this be to correct for anyone who is a actual programmer/developer. Even an untrained monkey should be able to do something so simple given a couple weeks. Any "real" programmer should cure this in a day, maybe two at most. It's simple logic.
This site IS the business, and they have a coder guy who is straight up sabotaging the business. All the damage being done to the site is causing customer frustration, and costing the company memberships.
It's stunning how a company would allow any employee to do so much damage to critical systems for so long, costing the company a lot of reputation and money loss, without taking some action.
Seems like a business no-brainer to exit whoever keeps messing up the site and ruining the company, and bring in somebody with a history of writing code that actually works. It should not take forever to fix problems. As an former IT manager, none of the places I've worked for would ever tolerate this situation.
There are a lot of decent IT people looking for work, I'm sure you could find somebody hungry enough to even learn (ugh) ColdFusion, and promptly actually fix this thing.
I feel bad for Wayne and the support people who have to keep covering for the ongoing trainwreck dev disaster. If they fix this IT management problem, I bet life for everybody at HQ (and for us users) would be a whole lot more enjoyable.
3/2/23 - Chat is still fucked up
They apparently turned off the inactive session polling for a bit. I accidentally left myself logged in yesterday and was still logged in this morning. It appears that they are trying to track things down and that process is usually finding out more about what isn't causing the problem/s than what is.
The comment about how they can go days without seeing a certain error just speaks to how hard it is for them to recreate the problem/s and not necessarily to dilute the fact they have problems. It's usually easier to fix something that fails every time versus something that fails intermittantly.
I can at least see they are trying, but the effort brings about this vision of the little Dutch boy trying to stop leaks in a dam. Complaining about it just flusters the little Dutch boy that much more ;-)
Careful everyone...Wayne from "tech support" is gonna threaten you all for saying the website isn't working...as he explains nothing is wrong and everyone should thank him
All, we are beating a dead horse. This site will never be right. I wrote to tech support, and I use that term loosely, and they asked for the error page screenshots. I sent them and their response was that he can, and I quote, go days and days and days without errors. He said I need to reset my device, clear the cache and so forth. Same old crap. The number of days or months or years has got to be a new Guinness book of records for website incompetence.
We complain and complain and it can’t be fixed. It’s that simple. It can’t be fixed. So shameful.
Messaging doesn't work AT ALL today. Utter failure.
Tried logging on to SLS 3x. 3 error messages. Went to Swing dot com and got right in.
maybe if they stopped adding worthless shit like the green jumping guy and bliss video the site may get back to working
Let’s face it. The competition is laughing its ass off. Today, I’ve had to log on and off to be able to even compose a message. Deaf ears. Total FUBAR. It’s just comedy now. The red message banner should just say SOS.
@duke, Wayne has stated it would take weeks or months to bring a new dev team in and get them up to speed, so they are sticking with the this one.
We were told the developers are working on the issues, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THEM FOR TWO YEARS NOW! WTF. may be time to get some new developers that know what they are doing
All, I finally get it. This is a comedy website. You couldn’t ask for better comedy.
@biblueeyed - that's what we thought was happening with the rebrand, but alas we were wrong. They decided to go all in on this one.
Honestly, they just need to build a new site from the ground up. With all the technology available now compared to when this site originally launched, it should be extremely easy. You don't even need to learn much in the way of HTML or Java or C to build a functioning member website now.
Looks like they disabled the message counter so the site runs faster.
AND it's broken, AGAIN.
