Why is G/G so difficult between couples?

Its the greatest no pressure just fun

That works for us too. I always enjoy my G/G playtime whether it's just the two of us or when the guys join in afterwards.

We are totally down for the G/G only thing. We have no problem with that at all. Or the g/g to start and go from there

ionsawmill - If your last post is in relation to the "bi-situational" classification that's been talked about before, for SLS, that is more so that people can find others for specific play preferences rather than any sort of declaration (or confusion) about their sexual identity.

"Anybody who thinks of their sexual orientation in terms of situations is confusing their own sexual identity with fetishism. It's also bi-erasure."

Well said.

LMFAO. The answer is in your question.

You have to find the right couple who are really open to that. Maybe a couple that is into G/G action and then each couple finishes with their own significant other. I hope you find the right people for your situation.

All choices are situational. Sexual orientation IS NOT A CHOICE.

Anybody who thinks of their sexual orientation in terms of situations is confusing their own sexual identity with fetishism. It's also bi-erasure.

Try to be an ally.

I think it's a perfect storm.

Add the selfish men you describe to the fact that women on this platform who say they are bisexual aren't actually bi, and you get a nearly impossible chance of women for women on this platform.

Go to events instead.

We are totally down for the G/G only thing. We have no problem with that at all.

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We all have different preferences, fantasies, and kink. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Re:OP

I think it's a near universal thing that guys like to watch g/g action. It gets them horny and then they want to join in. No big surprise.

If the Mrs was into it I'd have no problem letting her meet with another girl for them to play only. I think you just need to specify that. If it's a girl from a couple, maybe you specify that the guys go out for a drink or something so you know it's not a set-up.

Of course not everyone will want to do that but it doesn't matter. If it's what you want then that's how you frame it. As the male half though, having one male present so HE can watch and/or listen but excluding the other male hardly seems fair. and I can see that being a REALLY small market if that's what you're looking for.

re:hedo

Hard to tell what the OP deal is there because their profile just basically says "taking a break". I'm assuming she enjoys sex with her husband, and that would at least make her Bi, not a lesbian.

A lot of times one partner will do what they think the other wants, either consciously or sub consciously. It could be that she's averse to guys because she feels either like her hubby isn't into that and/or she feels like it's cheating. Hard to say.

I can see were this kind of g/g arrangement might be a little difficult to find. One male half or the other could be going in with the thought that "The girls play and get all hot and bothered and then we join them". I have seen this actually specified in people's profiles as a preference.

The real issue is people not stating that and going into a g/g play date thinking that the male/s will join in. Even worse is if/when people say one thing just to meet and then expecting that's going to change in the heat of the moment.

So your wife is a lesbian and you watch? well, I guess what ever turns you on! How does it ever get to the point that some men become interested in your wife, is she leading them on? If you are I think that's kind of screwed up.

To the OP,

I have to ask, are you willing to let your wife go off by herself and have fun with another lady, or are you expecting to sit there and watch? ~N

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A Buddhist would say that attachment, or expectation, is the root of all suffering. A Daoist would turn the Dharma wheel and find equilibrium in the moment. He or She would recognize the insistent force of the Dao in that moment, and know it is all an illusion of perception. Then of course there are those philosophies that are contingent on guilt.... I would rather not discuss those. I do think there is a lot to be said for the roles that we assume the world expects us to play. It is when that expectation goes against our desire, that we experience discomfort. Most of the time... the discomfort is our own creation.

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Realistically, most swingers want full swap. That's just the truth.

Realistically, most swingers want full swap. That's just the truth.

It's ok and it really is that simple.....