Election Temperature

Sacramento is an interesting place.

I actually like it there and would consider moving there. It reminds me of South Florida, but more rural. You have the density of the main city and then you have all the outdoor activities really close. It is also different than SoCal. Instead of it being White and Mexican, it is White and Black and some Mexican. Perhaps that is why it reminds me more of South Florida, the diversity of people.

But Sacramento is completely different than Bakersfield and completely different than San Diego and completely different than San Fran. It is probably a hybrid between Redlands and Upland.

It's also really close to Lake Tahoe.

1. Utility rates are very high and not reliable. You can't seem to understand how to control all your forest fires and manage your forests. How dumb to keep doing the same thing.

Yes, we have higher rates . . . now. It is actually a few reasons. We are in the midst of massive capital improvements. The rates reflect paying that off. We also have more solar here on residential property. That impacts the cost because the CapEx number was to be spread to everyone and now it is spread to less.

Ok, dumbass, the forests are on federal land. Sorry, we ain't got none of them black folk to go out there with rakes. However, you have no idea what causes forest fires so I ain't gonna explain it.

1. Illegal immigrants running all over the place but I forgot you want that cheap slave labor for your Farms and orchards.

Actually, we have about the same as Texas. But, it is not what you think. As I live near UCSB, my town gets a LOT of illegal immigrants. They are Chinese. You may go, wtf? If a student from China is here on a student visa, stays past the spring break and doesn't leave, that person is an illegal immigrant. You do realize that most illegal immigrants in the country are visa overstays . . . right?

Slave labor - rofl. You think because they are illegal that they are paid below min wage? ROFL. There is a large farm area to the north of me. They needed help. They wanted to 'hire american.' They put an add out paying $15 an hour. No responses. They upped it to $20. No responses. They upped it to $25. No responses. They upped it to $30 and started to get some responses. Then when they explained what would need to be done, no American wanted the job. After that, they fought to get Mexican's on work permits here. They got it. Then the idiot rednecks who lived in the town, didn't want the mexicans to live here and fought it. To use your line . . . how stupid.

1. Housing is ridiculous. To expensive and many can't even maintain it because the costs and insurance fees are awfully high.

Actually, that is partially accurate. Is housing expensive? Yes. If you want to live within 1000 feet of the ocean, it's going to be expensive. Every area has expensive housing, every area has cheap housing. If you want to compare housing costs in Bakersfield, CA, it is probably 1.5 times as much as Vance. However, it is about the same as most places in Florida, south of Orlando. Homeowners in CA is cheap compared to FL. I had a 3.2mm house and the homeowners on it was $1200 a year. So while it looks sensational that a house in Bel Air is asking 100mm, don't think all houses are that price.

1. Homeless people. In LA you have 57000 people homeless.

We also have about 10% of the US population in that area as well. Yes, we do have a homeless issue. We have a housing issue. We have an employment issue. However, we are not the only ones. There are tent cities in Huntsville.

The life of the average person there is no better than the guy from Alabama.

What a shame, about 40mm people would disagree with you.

Eroticamazon.....yeah let's do some facts on your shithole state

1. You are ranked 50th in quality of life

How you rank this state has no value. Choose any metric and it doesn't.

1. You have 8 of 10 most polluted cities in the country despite having all your regulations. Looks like a failure to me

While it is not 8 of 10, it is high. From a high level, I completely agree with you. From a lower level, the issues are when we have fires. The fires create particulates that are high. California generally has two seasons: Fire and non-fire. What we do not have, too much, is man made pollution.

1. 59% of your public school kids receive free and reduced lunch. You are estimated to pass Mississippi by 2025. Congratulations

Damn - we are approaching Alabama at 62%.

1. Since 2005 state employees salary have increased by 125%. That is a big burden to the taxpayers

I can't find that anywhere. Just because you say so, doesn't mean it is.

1. You require a license for 198 occupations. National average is 92. How stupid

ij. org/report/license-work-2/report/ranking-the-states/ - Woo hoo, 13 more lower income occupations require licenses in CA than AL. This is huge, how?

1. Small business cost is 25% higher because of all your stupid regulations which make many fail. How stupid

I could do the math and show you that you are wrong. It wouldn't matter. Our costs are not higher due to regulations. Our costs are higher due to higher wages.

1. The cost to just own a car is ridiculous because of super high insurance, regulations, licenses, fees. Boy that is a big help to the average person. How stupid

You keep typing this thing, how stupid. I know, you are acting that way. California is more about impact fees than blanket fees. If you own a car that is worth 5k, your registration fees are less than if you own a car that is worth 200k. Insurance is a function of claims and what is claimed. How many of those Mercedes that are made in your town stay there? We seem to get a LOT of them here. So our insurance averages would be higher. For those that know so-cal, if you leave near the 405-101 interchange, your rates are higher than almost anywhere in the country. That area is known as the most dangerous intersection in the country from an insurance perspective.

1. Your roads suck. Traffic jams all over.

This is the quagmire. The road system, urban planning, was put together in the 1950s. It seemed spacious then. It ain't now. Yes, we have horrendous traffic and have a PhD in it. But that is just certain sections. That is LA and Orange County, San Jose area. Where I live, it is 5 miles to my office and it takes me less than 10 minutes to get there and that is with 9 stoplights along the way.

To address the wife issue. This is an adult swinger site. The bj comment was not to degrade the wife. It is a swinger site where a bj often happens in this community between consenting adults. Absolutely no way would I say that on another platform. No way was I referring to making that happen without consent. The name calling issues. Are you going to address that with erotic and 8inchcable also? I realize Dems love their double standards though

2fun,

Yes! In N Out.

LA has a great range of food you can get for under $10: scallop burritos, Peruvian ceviche, mole chicken.

Trader Joe’s has expanded beyond Sourhern California. I’m not sure how much In N Out will expand around the West

I love the Pacific Ocean, but even more the NJ shore.

JC555,

That’s cool about your daughters and their time in Sacramento

I’ve only begun briefly in Sacramento once. I love Cornel West from Sacramento and the movie, “Lady Bird,” by Greta Gerwig , set in Sacramento.

I feel deeply that one of the best ways to learn is to get outside of what is familiar to us. I love overseas studies for college students. I think it’s helpful to go to college in a different place than your hometown or even home state.

This week I have a daughter coming back to serve as a nurse in a Southern California hospital. She’s been living in Alaska and Seattle for the last 7 years. She’s eager to come back to her home state, but she also has much affection for Alaska, less so for Seattle.

I loved my visit to Alaska and gauged a sense of why my daughter enjoyed her time there. There are a lot of strong feminist progressive women in Alaska.

JC555,

I’m very willing to try to understand you and respect you and get into your skin, but it would be easier if you reduced the silly name calling and testosterone swagger and we just shared perspectives with some decency and curiosity to learn from each other.

2outdoors made an excellent statement too about how it’s uncool to bring in comments about wives. I hope you agree with his point.

I’m fine with your mocking me for writing novels. I’m having fun posting while listening to the news about election in Georgia

Call me names too, if you must, but it’s pointless. My ego has its defenses.

NJ has been called the armpit of the nation and LA the authentic rectum of civilization by HL Mencken.

I’ve called both places home I love both places even as I have a lovers quarrel with each state too.

It’s been entertains watching you and Erotic Amazon dump on each other’s state.

I welcome you to talk about what you love the best about your home state.

I’m more than willing to give you my critique of California and LA as well.

I’m invested in the pursuit of a more perfect Union in the USA as well as the pursuit of liberty and justice.

I have sone assumptions about Alabama based on my contempt for Jeff Sessions and going back to my coming of age listening to George Wallace while reading about the racism faced in Alabama by Satchel Paige and Willie Mays.

I have NJ pride and NJ humility and the same goes for California and the USA. It’s fun to hear people praise their home state or home country but also listen to people critique both especially from the inside.

Sappholovers.....2 of our daughters are almost home from California. They have been in Sacramento the last 10 days. I am curious as to what they have to say about their experience.

You forgot to mention we also have the Pacific Ocean and In-n-Out Burger.

JC555,

California has an amazing aerospace industry.

LA is the hub city of the Pacific Rim for global trade

California has some of the best public and private universities and colleges in the country, including CalTech

California has significant military bases including famous ones in San Diego
county

It has a significant tourist economy

LA is the home of a significant fashion industry.

It had along with Texas great Mexican food.

It has one of the great research libraries in the world: The Huntington Library.

In LA, I can get to five excellent public golf courses within a 20 minute drive from
my home.

You’ve probably whacked off a lot to porn made in the San Fernando Valley

Sappholovers.....living in someone else's skin and understanding needs to work both ways. Don't tell me to understand and respect you when you won't do the same. (Not referring to you).

JC555,

I have sone great novels to re omens to you:

— Robert Penn Warren, All the King’s Men, which is a great study of political demagoguery set in a Southern state and based in part on the rise to post and demagoguery of Huey Long, set in Louisiana

—Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird. She’s from Alabama.

—-Zora Neale Hurston, Their Eyes Were Watching God. She too was born in Alabama. The novel is set in an all blank town in 1930s Florida

Novels are cool as they offer readers the chance to live in the skin and see into the heart of a range of characters unlike ourselves.

You need to try to live in the skin of someone else to understand them.

You need to live in California for a time to understand it more fairly and accurately.

I make no claims to understand 21st century Alabama. I’ve never lived there.

I’ve read a lot to try to understand antebellum Alabama and its secession in 1861 and the causes and horrors of the Civil War.

I’m very curious to visit Alabama and every state in the USA that I have not yet visited in person. I’ll give reverence to where Willie Mays played for the Birmingham Barons.

Right now I so much want to see my older sister in Georgia and celebrate this night’s elections with her.

I wish John Lewis was still alive to experience January 5th and January 6th

Tbrmskss......that illegal immigrant slave labor pays off doesn't it? Do you have your own? Take away the Hollywood money and Silicon valley and you have nothing any better.

"Full of hate and always the victim. Sound just like a spoiled ass brat."

You own a mirror?

"Do the math dumbass if your capable."

LOL

California is 6th in the country in GDP per capita.

Alabama is 47th.

8inchcable......you continue to prove you are just an indoctrinated idiot. Full of hate and always the victim. Sound just like a spoiled ass brat. While you rip on Trump and Republicans how about you tell us what the Democrats do for you? Looks to me like that rile you up at election time then disappear. Only an idiot keeps making the same damn mistake and continue to cry.

Sappholovers.....that is why I put etc after the first two. A lot of the regulations are clearly present in California. Stop writing freaking novels to everyone. Geez

State ? Median income % of people living in poverty % of people without health insurance

Alabama $40,554 16.9% 12.0%

Wisconsin $50,578 10.8% 8.2%

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Someone please take out this Alabammer trash.... he keeps typing.

2outdoors,

It’s not as elusive as you might think if we have it more of a try and found agreeing with someone else more fun than attack and insult and name calling.

For instance, I’m sure we can agree on the federal government fulfilling each of the imperatives articulated in the Preamble of the Constitution

I hope we agree that social security for the elderly and Medicaid for the elderly and public education are worthy investments of tax money and federal government effort.

What do you think of Sherries Brown? I like him. He’s my second favorite politician or political activist in Ohio right now after LeBron.

JC55,

Can you be more specific? I don’t know what so-called “stupid regulations” you are referring to?

I hope you include Social Security and Medicare as helpful ways for the federal government to promote the general welfare or provide older citizens with one of their most basic needs: security and affordable health care.

I think we spend far too much on our military. We do not only provide for the common defense. We engage in unnecessary and very costly military interventions. How much did Bush’s Iraq War cost in lives and money?

I also like providing for public education, which you don’t mention.

As Tmbrkss noted in other posts, California had the best infrastructure of probably any state for community college, state colleges, and public universities.

What makes places such as SF and LA such thriving hubs of innovation is that both places have a set of amazing universities, public as well as private.

California has invested in public education. It could do it even better.

UC Davis had been crucial for helping to support the very significant agricultural industry in California.

The illegal immigrants you complain about help do the work that puts food on our tables.

Birmingham had at one point a wonderful thriving steel industry. It became cheaper to get steel elsewhere. That was a private business decision.

States that do not invest in strong public education have hurt themselves.

Private education did provide a way to keep schools segregated, and various southern states turned to that as an alternative.

How many concussions did Tuberville suffer as a football player to cane up with the politics he advocates?

It’s foolish to engage in political debates on a sex site with some people who I can tell from their first post that their minds and hearts are not very open to listening, learning, empathy and a commitment to the best of American ideals and to our government promoting the general welfare of We the People.

Well Gandhi... I'll be damned. We finally agree on something. The elusive common ground you have been seeking is as plain as dandelions on a spring lawn.

When a racist redneck proves that there IS racism, educational gaps and non-whites jailed at
high numbers....

But, but, but Trump gave jobs to Blacks and money to Black schools, blah, blah, blah.....

You've just proved our point, yer redneck goober.

Meanwhile Milwaukee has the largest achievement gap between white/black students in the US. Milwaukee is the most segregated city in the US. Wisconsin incarcerate's the most black men in the US. Wisconsin budgets more money for correction facilities than higher education. And here is your ignorant ass badmouthing Alabama. What a joke

"(PS 8inchcable its Alabama and not Alabammer. You clearly can't spell along with all your other flaws)"

You obviously can't read satire and sarcasm.

I spelled it how you fucking Goobers sound.

All those Uncle Fuckers and cousin fuckers in pickups with gun racks and open containers.....

"Alabama ranks number 4 in states with the most child marriages, often to adults."

"The Huntsville Advocate asserted, “This is a white man’s government and a white man’s state,” and the Ku Klux Klan used terror to enforce that view. Among white Alabamians, a struggle ensued between those who defied the notion of Black people having political rights and power and those willing to cooperate with the Black community and its Northern allies. Black Alabamians demanded access to education and were given it, but most of the white majority insisted that schools be racially separate."

No it should not be removed. We need our military, FDA, USDA, etc. We don't need these to push stupid regulations that drive prices through the roof and put small businesses out of business. You know like California does