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Santa Barbara, CA, Us

Freedom has no value if violence is the price

That is a lyric from a very influential band in the late 70s.

It seems very apropos now.

You have our redneck promoting violence by calling it freedom.

That is not freedom, that is suppression. But then again, Alabama education and all.

Run to your safe place libs. Haha

I hope the Squad is shitting their pants now. Lol

Sapp.....you are full of shit. If you are about justice then you would demand a complete bipartisan investigation into election fraud. But you won't do that because it doesn't support your narrative. Freaking hypocrite

President Trump has incited the storming of the US Capitol building

In contrast:

In the history of the USA, African American protests against injustice and inequality—going back to protests against slavery and segregation and police abuse—have made the USA more free, more equal, more just.

More specifically, the 1992 Uprising in LA, like the Watts Rebellion of 1965, challenged unjust policing, and the 1992 Uprising led to important, beneficial reforms for the LAPD.

My politics is shaped in large part by taking to heart the principles articulated in the Declaration and Constitution, or not by guilt, but my passion for justice and equal rights and a more perfect union

President Trump has encouraged lawlessness in support of a subversion of the Constitution. Call it an attempted coup.

You totally don't get the point do you?

Thornton, CO, Us

SAP. "anti-black and anti-brown racism"? As a Bolshevik, just out of the closet I love " anti-black and anti-brown racism".

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

I'm heading out to drive 10 minutes to Pismo Beach and contemplate how terrible the quality of life is around here.

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Eh.

I'm a former restaurant manager, so I don't go in for anything other than black coffee.

You know the old joke. I like my coffee like I like my women...

Ground up and kept in the freezer...

I'm not bragging about my possessions. I have more than some, less than others.

And everyone would like to make more money.

And others have a better quality of life, based on what you value.

But mine is pretty good.

Alas. We have the white guy who suffers from white guilt. What a pathetic joke. A coward of a man who refuses to denounce rioting and looting and destroying others lives along with MURDER.

Lol. Now we resort to bragging about possessions.

Interesting you think you know so much about MBUSI. I worked there almost 20 years. The regular worker who is in assembly that is topped out in pay has a base salary of over 61k not counting benefits. The benefits are very good. A worker who is promoted to team leader makes 5% more. A person who is promoted to group leader is 10% more. A regular maintenance person makes $5 more an hour than a production worker. You say people in Alabama don't have a Mercedes. I had 9 myself in 5 years. Most every employee had one if not multiple. The employees decide about being union and multiple times it has been voted down. That is the employees choice not out of state people who want their hand in the cookie jar. You might see people in Alabama who don't have the finest homes but you also won't see thousands of homeless people. You won't see a safe place for a druggie to shoot up. You won't worry about stepping in human shit. You can also drink from a straw. You won't have to get multiple permits to plant a tree.

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

@TBR

And of course, it is a convertible with the top down :)

After picking up your double latte with almond milk :)

On your way to lunch, which, of course, consists of kale.

And after, you plan on doing hot yoga and meditation.

:)

tbrmskssVeteran
San Diego, CA, Us

Quality of life?

It is a 7 minute walk from my front door to San Diego Bay.

It is a 7 minute drive from my house to the Pacific Ocean.

If I want, it is a 1 hour drive to the snow (when there is snow).

The same one hour drive gets me to largely unpopulated territory.

5 hours to Las Vegas.

Everyone has their "acts of Go." California has fires and earthquakes. Alabama has tornados and hurricanes. So what.

Excuse me now. I have to drive my sports car to my sailboat and cruise around Mission Bay...

Alas, white supremacy is not dead in the USA and political appeals to anti-black and anti-brown racism can still win votes and help win presidential elections

But as we see today in the Senate elections in Georgia and in the defeat of Trump, appeals to racism can produce in the USA a strong, just, ethical counter-reaction

One of the most effective ways to challenge stereotyping is not to counter-punch with more stereotyping but to exemplify its opposite in the way we think, write, act and vote

Again, as posted elsewhere, I’m glad Jimmy Carter is alive to see this day in Georgia’s election and in the presidential election. I wish John Lewis was with us today to see it too

BLM arose as a counter-protest to a history of racial injustice that favored the inherited privilege of being white and cost too many African Americans their lives, just as the Revolution of 1776 arose in part as a protest against the inherited privileges of monarchy and aristocracy and killings done by British soldiers in actions such as the British massacre. The Boston Tea Party was also an act of destroying property worth many thousands

Antifa is given far too much attention by a Conservative media that knows that fear mongering is a way to attract a larger market share of a TV audience. I applaud the anti-fascism of Thomas Paine, Frederick Douglass, John Brown, Abraham Lincoln, and our WW 2 soldiers.

Alas, we have President Trump and his consigliere, Rudy Giuliani, inciting violence today in DC that is anti-democratic

Ps. Just ask me, I will again post my criticisms Democratic presidents and praise for some of the actions of each GOP president in my lifetime.

8inch which is more likely 4inch refuses to denounce his hate groups. He can't handle push back so now he just wants me to go away. Lol

Santa Barbara, CA, Us

"Is a man making 50k a year in Alabama in worse shape than a man making 100k in California if everything they have is identical? "

Nice try. But by definition that is not identical. You almost had it there, but the alabama education kicked in. Here, let me correct it for you.

If a person has the same level of quality of life, does it matter if they are in CA or AL? The answer is no. But there is quantitative and qualitative. You seem to mix them together.

See, what is funny, is that the most expensive house for sale in Vance right now is a house on 30 acres for 390k. The median is probably around 160k. So a PITI payment would be about 750 a month. Now let's put you as an assembler at MB. You know, the place that had 70k applicants for 1500 jobs. The salary there is 48k. Assuming you have an effective tax rate of about 17%, you have 39k leftover for everything else. What would it take in salary in CA to do the same? That is where it gets VERY tricky because that is where it matters where you live. Will you find any place in cal that has a 150k house? Probably not. That is why wages are higher. Try and get a house in the bay area and then you will see that a majority of the salaries are much higher to support that. But again, that is the same in Huntsville and Mobile.

"You say 40mil people would disagree. Hmmm, I wonder if one of those homeless people would disagree?" I dunno. You dunno. We have no idea why people are homeless and they are not all the same reason. But given a choice of being homeless in SoCal or someplace that has horrendous weather, I am choosing SoCal!

" The thing a dumbass like yourself doesn't understand is people's way of life is different all over. Life here is not as fast paced. People drive slower, talk slower, etc." No you are the dumbass. I am well aware of it. I am well aware of the pace of life in different locations and have always argued the qualitative aspect.

You seem to be the one who doesn't understand and bitches about everything in CA. A state that is so fucking humongous that you believe what happens in 3 square blocks is indicative of what happens in the whole state. Seeing that you are new, I am being nice. You can find in these threads where I posed a question to put things in perspective. I sincerely doubt that you have ever been to San Fran. So let me give you a little geography lesson. It is a concrete jungle. There is one section that has a park. But you can go down on Market Street, probably 6 miles and then go east or west another 3 miles and there are no woods, no 'side of the road' It is all concrete. Now, if you are homeless where do you 'live' in that roughly 20ish sq miles? Then, as every human has to shit and piss, where do you go? The businesses have gotten rid of public toilets. As a homeless person are you to go, "Damn! I need to take a shit. Let me walk 3 miles to the ferry station at the top of market street, hop on a ferry, go over to larkspur, walk a mile to where there are woods, and then take a shit." That ain't happening.

The drug problem, oh yeah it exists. But again, it is not just a san fran thing. It is significantly worse in Ohio. At least in San Fran, they have worked on clinics where people can come and shoot up and then leave. Of course, they try and rehab them as well.

But what you fail to realize and discuss is that those people . . . generally . . .they need to be in Vance. Those people are generally that way because they can not support themselves in that city and feel unable to keep up financially. The area does not have a job that pays enough for their skillset.

8inchcableVeteran
Milwaukee, WI, Us

Can you keep my screen name and my dick outta your mouth and fingers please?

Move on dude. Tell DNLB that we don't miss him or you.

Thornton, CO, Us

Moe, Being a Bolshevik I love Russia. Finest Country on earth. Even ahead of China,

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

I didn't call you angry because of any political viewpoints.

It's because nearly every one of your sixty-plus posts in the last few days is you lashing out and childishly insulting people.

Not exactly a recipe for a successful debate about issues.

8inch.....how come Biden hasn't appointed a BLM representative to his cabinet yet? They have already asked what is their reward for supporting him. Looks like somebody got played, huh?
You have yet to say what the Democrats do that is so good for you.

8inch.....the guy who lives in the most segregated city in the US and yet calls others racist. I think you like segregation don't you? Keep your problem there.

I think 8inch and onehell should start dating.

The kkk is a dead organization that is absolutely nothing to me. The proud boys are present to combat back against Antifa and BLM. You want denounce the BLM will you? You know the hate group who attacked elderly people and weaker people. You know the ones who riot and loot and burn down people's property. Kyle R is a 17 year old who had no business being there but he also was forced to defend himself against your mob. Do you denounce the violence of Antifa and BLM?

Irondequoit, NY, Us

Has anyone ever seen JC and Clyde in the same room?