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@rabbit_n_scamp, J thinks you are apt and make him chuckle with your observations. If we ever get back to the Big Easy, we'd be happy to share a drink and bar space with you; but, not the cheese.

I love cheese, I guess we disagree on that....

Scamp,

That's somewhat offensive.

...the for short part, I mean;-)

BT

We prefer asshats for short.

~S~

Rabbit and Scamp, one persons "snarky asshole" is another persons ideal match. Have to admit I love the therm "snarky asshole".

We appreciate that Fokkers but no apology needed. We understand everyone is different and I don't think we disagree on much.

Attraction is subjective, be it physical or personality. People will pass us by because of my age or lack of hair or whatever else doesn't suit them. There are those who think our profile is hysterical and only wrote to us because we sound fun and others who have told us we sound like snarky assholes. Oh well, NEXT!

~S~

Scamp, I guess Ithere will be no ‘Cheese of the Month Club’ subscription for you.

I knew you weren’t calling anyone out.. I did want to take the chance to apologize for the times when i had called you out on this topic. Your reasoning wasn’t off base at all and did help to re-evaluate our own views.

Just talk on the phone and meet for a drink. you get to know if they are real on the phone and what they really look like over drinks.

its the old fashion way but it works and everything is discreet.

To throw another wrench at the face pic discussion: we have had our stuff from here screen shotted and it has ended up elsewhere. Happened almost as soon as we first posted them and have since decided it isn't worth the risk. We don't think it was someone who hacked the site. There are people with multiple profiles who certify themselves. We just assumed it was one of those jokers.
We do wholeheartedly agree that there needs to be accurate representation, as most do.

We weren't calling anyone out, just stating how our process works.

As we have posted previously, we have met couples after there was a mutual, initial attraction but didn't play because the personalities or "chemistry" was off so we do understand that there has to be more than physical attraction. But we also know ourselves well enough to know that if there isn't that initial attraction, it won't matter how great their personality is.

Let me try to explain it this way. I don't like the taste of cheese. Any cheese. I never eat cheese, just the smell of it makes me nauseous. You may make the best cheese in the world, award-winning "celebrities lining up at your door to get to your cheese" good. I still won't take a bite. That doesn't mean your cheese isn't any good but it also doesn't mean I am trying to insult your cheese.

So if you've got pictures of chocolate all over your profile and I show up to find only cheese, you got some 'splainin to do!

~S~

Fred anyone with computer skills can take the whole profile and use it with your face pics included and all the emails going back and forth.

There people are so good at "hacking" that they have hacked to big boys to get their hard data of the science they did. For example the American Cancer society has been hacked and all their hidden data has been posted. fuckers lied about every thing.

The global Waring data has been hacked and posted and so on.

What is worst if this is sold your whole profile and pics are for sale if the new owners chooses to do so. You have to be crazy to post identifying pics on any site that can be used against you.

FredTammy: Love that peice of advice about being yourself. I have found that when I have told certain close friends they get very uncomfortable with me being me. What they think of me is none of my business. I hope that they would accept me for who I am regardless.

Rabbit and Scamp: admittedly I was one who did accuse you both of being shallow. I am sorry for that. These similiar threads and looking at the messages we were getting got us discussing. We realized that given that the lifestyle is about sex, attraction is going to be important. Personality is great as well but in the end it will come down to appearance. We aren’t models, so I know that the majority will pass on us, some won’t - we’ll be what they are looking for. We understand that now.

I’ve said it before but the lifestyle has everything for everyone, it may just take you a while to find it, but it’s out there.

NCal, having recently retired from my full time position, and now owning my own consulting firm I get it, but at least for us in our public galleries we dont post anything that can not already be found on the internet of us anyway that shows our faces. Part of the issue we feel is when you try to bridge the gap between regular life and your alternative life. Being involved as we have been (even though we are fairly new here) we have met some great people, we have also realized early on that the normal reality of day to day lives and our alternative lives simply do not mix. If we see a couple we have met at a club or something out and about we will politely say hello, much like we would any other person we see out and about. Common sense goes along way, which we have also seen some tend to lack.

Where you are mistaken is what can happen to your face pics when you open them. Anything on the internet can be taken off of any site for use by whomever for whatever.

Also if you bothered to read the agreement that you signed for this site, all pics are and can be sold in the site is sold or used for whatever the new owners want to do with them.

We are the "business" we are not employees, being the business makes for a huge difference in the need to be discrete. My god in this fucked up country if it becomes public with pics that we are swingers just the sexual harassment from female employees to extort money from us would be a nightmare.

We’ve been called shallow for saying this but physical attraction is the first criteria we look at to decide if we want to meet a couple (or single) so RECENT full body pics and face pics of both have to be available.

Your public pics should show enough of your whole body (we aren’t building a puzzle so an elbow here and an ankle there doesn’t cut it) to know if you are attractive TO US. If you blur your faces on the public pics, no problem. Just have the unblurred version in your private pics and open them when contacting us.

In short, we agree with what most others have posted. Recent, current pics of both of you including full body and face need to be available to see before we will meet.

Pixie, very well said. When we fist started out on this site we discussed using face pics or not, and decided that anyone on here is more than likely on here for the same reasons we are, so why not. The industry we work in is one that is not very forgiving, however again if someone we work with sees us on here, I seriously doubt they took the time to find this site create an account just to see pictures of us, more than likely they are here for the same reason we are. With that said, one of our co-workers reached out to us as she is also a member on here. I will say this it does make some of the conversations much more interesting as we are the only two who understand what we are talking about. Anyone who has been involved in the lifestyle for any length of time has without a doubt met enough people that they will be recognized in public. One piece of advise given to us by a couple who we met when we first started, about keeping our activities a secret was "No one person is that special, get over it and live your life as you want to live it".

@FF&DT. Totally get your concern.

Our position. (And I always get blowback from the "Here's all the reasons you're wrong crowd", on this, but whatever.) We consider ourselves fortunate.

1. Clearly we have no issue with posting face pics. We completely understand other's concerns. Family, work, church, PTA, etc. For us, we've decided that "world" we're exposing ourselves to is a small one, comparatively speaking, and we're not really too worried about it.

1. We both work for companies who respect our privacy at whatever level we require, as well as, our rights to live the lives we choose when we are on our own time.

1. We're at the local nude beach regularly on weekends (see pics), so there probably aren't that many swingers/nudists in the Central Florida area who haven't seen us naked by now anyway.

1. Keep the faces hidden on public pages if you need to. No problem for us. You can still post pics that give everyone an idea of what they are in for. We know, some guys don't care. However, we haven't found too many women willing to do the blind date thing. Most have learned that no pics of him often means he looks like something that crawled out of something else, that crawled out of Satan's ass.

1. If you can't figure out how to get pictures that DON'T show your face, but DO show the rest of you, into a public gallery, we are not interested in meeting to find out what other seemingly simple tasks manage to escape your comprehension.

1. And before agreeing to meet, we will see faces because... (see #4).

we are not into telling the world we are swingers so we have some pics showing that dont include our faces. We will open face pics if we have interest in meeting with someone. Most of our pics are of her but thats cause she barely knows how to use her phone, forget taking a decent picture. But we definitely have pics of him (me) on here as well as pics of the two of us together

That is so very true, we really dont care about pics since non of them are real or up to date.

our pics are old, but we haven't been actively seeking playmates lately. if we decide to start looking again (after losing some weight) we will update our pics

We see pics here every day that are the exact same photos some have been using since the first time we saw them here 10 years ago.

If we get email from people who's pics are that old, we pretty much treat them as if they have no pics at all.

ok, we will jump into the fray over profile photos...yeah, we hate not being able to see photos of potential playmates, yeah, its annoying to see only "gynecology" shots of her body parts or close up "dick pics", just as annoying as seeing the pink and blue "gumby" on profiles of folks who have been long time members. Yes we have "faceless" or blurred photos, mostly of her, yes she has a job that would be ruined if she were found out or "outed" (and yes, we are cautious due to her having a stalker on another site). BUT...we DO have unblurred older and recent photos, both G rated and nude, in our other galleries that we are willing to share when WE feel ready to, and yeah, there are some of me/him, despite really really really hating to have my pic taken!

What we dont like or have any interest in, are the new no photos members with very little profile info, or even worse, those who have been members since 2003, have only 1 low quality profile pic...and the most recent of their dozen certs is from over a year ago! (a nut who posts incessantly on all threads in the forum...hint hint). We evaluate each profile based not only on photos, but also length of membership, type of membership, length and quality of written profile and a few other things. It is annoying but case by case individual evaluation of other profiles is the only way we found to work (for us). Just our 2 cents worth.

The point I am making is that, as annoying as it is to not get a visual, there ARE some legit reasons to not have any photos, or good photos

If you want the world to know that you are a swinger then go ahead and post face pics. This is our private life and want to keep our sex life PRIVATE.

We have posted about pics many times.....My wife gets VERY Frustrated over the fact that there are so many pictures of the wife and her boobs or her feet...(really).. none of him but then it is the guy that does all the communicating and then it takes 2 or 3 e-mails to get a picture of him or them together and in this day and age of everyone having smart phones taking selfies and pictures of their lunch you mean to tell me you can not produce a picture of the 2 of you together.....BULLSHIT.....we have more profiles blocked then what we get back from doing a profile search for couples....and I am sorry but those who will say He is someone that can not be recognized here you mean that everybody that might know you will NOT recognize the 50 pictures of your WIFE.....yea right...
We have attended events/parties and have reviewed the guess lists before and after and would say that a good 70% of the couples had pictures of both of them on their profile and the ones that didn't proved the Troll theory......

@Fokkers, Don't be dissin' on Shrek now or his buddy Donkey and his dragon lady might show up at the party! :)