Is us that she doesn't want to share you, or that she's not wanting another woman involved at all? If the latter, why is she listed as bi? Why does your profile talk about her being with women?
Ah, I know - your wife sounds like a pillow princess. It sounds like it's about her, and she deigns to let you participate.
Get out of the LS until you two figure this out. You should be discussing this issue directly with her. Good luck.
As others have commented you really need to take a step back from the LS until you can get things sorted out. Either you need to be comfortable with her being all about her or stop playing all together. She is sounding very selfish and that doesn't work for a couple in the LS if one wants something different. My wife and I talk between us almost daily about what we want, have done or want to do. Very open with each other and others we play with. No jealously here just fun having sex with others.
Warpig, If you are setting up MFF and your wife is not wanting to could it be because your expecting her to play with another female? I know my wife doesn't want to play with another female, but, doesn't mind incidental touching with a female as long as they are both involved with the man. She will even give head to the guy with the other women as long as that is what they are both focused on.
Jealousy and swinging do not go together. While it may be flattering that she loves him that much, it's still a problem "if it bothers him" that she can be with others and he can't because of jealousy.
I put quotes around a key piece because this sort of arrangement is basically what cucks do and it works for some people. This would be kind of the same but without the humiliation aspect. Either way, the ball is in his court.
Warpig,
Sit her down and explain it to her like this...
"Swinging is like sharing a chicken dinner......
Some nights you can have the big piece, some nights I'm gonna feel like having the big piece.
But god damn it! You ant getting the big piece every time!"
@FunInMidwest... thanks for you comment ??
It could be simply that she loves you and is jealous of sharing you. I would take it as a compliment. Most men would love to be you
Ronkathy: Yes rape is real and a awful thing. I investigated them too in DD. Statuary and false claims. It is not rape when a woman uses her body to get ahead in the Hollywood world. The Hollywood woman do it all the time. It's called the, CASTING COUCH. Do you know what LATCHES means? Why was it not rape at the time of the incident but becomes rape years later when there is some fame or fortune in it for the woman.
An OREO orgy....
He should have been jailed decades ago in a jail cell with OJ and Cosby...all 3 in a little cell having an orgy...
Wow using his power and position to force sex on women you call that consensual? Can't believe with your views a lot of women want anything todo with you
Harvey Weinstein Is Found Guilty of Sex Crimes in #MeToo Watershed. Rape now is a woman changing her mind years later. Weinstein case 30 years later. In the future get all woman to sign consent agreements before sex. The AMAZON WOMAN are coming after us.
warpig,
Your wife is incredibly selfish.
Get out of the lifestyle until the two of you reach an agreement. Until that happens, you're a drama bomb looking for a place to explode.
I agree with the travel veteran. It seems like she thinks it's all about her, which is fine if it's ok with you, but it seems like it's not. Swinging should be something you two do together. If you aren't happy with the way things are going you need to talk to her about it, and put swinging on hold for a while.
@TheTravelVeteran- thank you for your comment
@Warpig ~ While I'm not an expert in swinging nor therapy... I do pay VERY close attention the words people say. One word can change the entire dynamic of a conversation. Being a writer, I see it daily.
I say that to say this... When she talked about being with another woman, she said "so she can go down on ME." Maybe you haven't typed it, but I didn't hear about her going down on the other woman. She didn't express anything about her attraction to her, what type of woman, what she wants to do... Just the generic "Go down on me so I can see if I like it." Then you ask her about a DP with another woman and again, it's about what SHE is going to be doing. She never asks if that lady is gonna eat her pussy, if she can play with the lady's pussy, or even get some dick from the other man.. Just her
To me, this is all about pleasing HER. She isn't saying no women.. She's saying maybe women if they eat my pussy. Threesomes are fine, as long as you both fuck me. She doesn't even want a 4 some, where she'd be pleased and you get pleased. Nope.. But if it was 3 guys, she'd be fine with that. "What am I supposed to do?" That stands out. There's still two men there. She could go first or second getting DP'd. But the thought never entered her mind. Immediately went to ME ME ME.
The answer here is she's only worried about herself. Every single scenario reverts back to her and her pleasure ONLY. If even a minute is spent on you getting pleasure, she's actually upset and angry. Swinging will never be 50/50 or even 80/20 with a person like that
RonKathy.... your right that's why it has been almost a year since our last MFM encounter. Feb 17 2019 it will be year. I just need advice from people in the life style. its not one of those things i can talk it over with my friends, family or priest.
Warpig: There ya go, more dick for her, problem solved.
:rolls eyes:
~Allen
2inUPMichigan, Oh ok i see what your saying.... your right that's not full swap. There are so many things she can particiate in while the other wife gets DP'd.... For example she can play with the other wife's boobs, pussy or kiss her. The possibilities are endless.
The point is she is not willing to give it a chance because she has these feelings all of a sudden. The same feelings that disappear when she is getting dick down.
@warpig
No I was referring to what you said about her sitting on the sidelines waiting while you had a MFM with the couple you are talking to. You and the other husband with the other wife is a MFM with your wife on the sidelines not a full swap.
2inUPMichigan we were both involved in the MFM encounters. You have to go back and read my last post again. Because you misread her sitting on the side lines.
Her saying she is potentially open to full swap play with couples is not the same thing as being told she will have to sit and watch you during MFM play.
When the two of you had MFM with a man involved you were both involved. What you just described has her sitting on the sidelines.
If she is open to a couple why not find a couple where you both will be included instead of excluding one of you? Not every couple will be a good match and what they are looking for is not sounding like a good match.
Find a couple BBC's with 12 inch cocks to fuck her brains (mouth) out while you have your DVP....
MoT1974- yes I meant MFM i just fat fingered that on my phone.
When we first started it was my fantasy to do MFM you know the usually DP,DVP, and every other configuration you can think of with MFM. We had discussed this for about two months before. we also discussed being with other couples and she acted fine like she was open to the possibility of it.
But for example i had a couple contact us. I emailed with the husband back and forth. He told me his wife enjoys getting DP'd. So when i mentioned that to my wife her response was "what am i supposed to do! just sit there while you two just fuck her!!" in an angry/mad voice. My response was "yes and wait your turn or play with a vibrator. I don't know we have never done this before" as you can imagine that didn't go over well. I hope that makes sense.
When the two of you first talked about this, what options did both of you agree to?
If she said from the beginning that she would not be comfortable with the idea of you playing with another woman that may not change. Not everyone is a full swap couple.
It might be time for the two of you to sit down and have an honest conversation. If you aren't willing to give up the idea of playing with other women and it us a deal breaker for her then the two of you might have to consider walking away from this.
