Send us Fan MailTuesday Talks: Shots, Safety and STI Risks | Episode 107In this week’s Tuesday Talks, Dan and Lacy tackle a listener question that a lot of people might be wondering—but aren’t always comfortable asking out loud. The topic? Trimix shots and whether they increase the risk of transmitting HIV or other STIs, especially if there’s bleeding at the injection site.While they’re quick to remind listeners that they’re not medical professionals, Dan and Lacy break it down in a real, honest, and easy-to-understand way. They talk through how Trimix works, what potential risks could exist, and why communication, awareness, and personal boundaries are always key in any play scenario.This episode is all about staying informed without fear, asking better questions, and making confident, educated choices in the lifestyle. Tune in now to get the full conversation and hear how Dan and Lacy approach this important (and often overlooked) topic.Get Tickets to Electric Pleasures- The Swing Nation - Main Website Quick Navigation Website: -- (Find all our social media links more!)- Swinger Society - Our Website to meet, connect events Swinger Society Discord Our Facebook Group- Swinger Websites -Kasadie 90 day free trialUsername: TheSwingNation SDC 14 day free trial Username: TheSwingNation** Use code 36313 for 14 days free! ** SLSUsername: NorthernGuynSouthernGirl- Merch More -Order Your Merch Here!- Lacy’s Fun Links -VIP OnlyFansPREMIUM OnlyFans-- THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS --Wisp : Making sexual healthcare inclusive, cost-effective, and accessible—for everyoneUse Code SWING at checkout for 15% off your oder!Shameless Care: ED Medication and at home STD testingUse Code TSN at checkout for $30 off your order!Promescent® Make Love Longer, It’s Time for Great SexUse Code SwingNation for 5% off!Support the show- Thank you for the support! -
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Interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Tuesday Talks. Just send your questions to Dan and Lacey. Tuesday Talks. Swing Nation got you feeling sexy. Tuesday Talks. Talking Tuesday with Dan and Lacey. Ooh, how about that high note? That was perfect. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy. And Southern Girl. And we are back with another Tuesday Talks episode with Dan and Lacey. Yeah. Lacey. Okay, let's jump right into this week's Tuesday Talk question. I'm ready, Wasey. Okay.
This one is from, there's no name, but it said this one's from my wife, who is wondering about the safety implication of men doing trimex shot immediately before sex, especially assuming not divulging that info with their partner. When they inject into their penis, does it not create a tiny needle hole that could make microscopic blood escape during oral? In other words, does the injection site have enough time to heal before someone unwillingly may be exposing themselves to a fluid exchange?
Mostly concerned about oral, but suppose you could be concerned also about penetration if the injection site is not fully covered by the condom we hear on several podcasts that men use the shot and often do not tell people they're doing it thoughts uh this is actually an excellent question it is but first before we jump into it We are not medical yes disclosure i me and lacy have never gone to medical school i have no medical training this is just practical advice from practical people yes so this is just like so if you listen to us and you get hiv please don't sue me no well the truth is is that we are not professionals we are going to give you what we think and kind of like our best practices and how we handle it.
If this is something that you are genuinely concerned, I recommend that you do speak to a medical professional because we are not those. And if enough people have this question, we could bring it to Dr. Shower if we feel like this is a valid question. This would probably be a good Dr. Shower question. going to attempt to answer it from our uneducated, just around the lifestyle, little brains. Yes. As DJ Trimax, I think I speak well. I can speak on this subject. If you don't know why I called myself DJ Trimax, somebody said that in our comments. Like a troll.
It is funny that one is funny but it also shows they listen to our podcast because we don't talk about Trimax much on Instagram that's clearly somebody that listens to our podcast and then went to Instagram just to troll me you've also only tried it's April, you tried Trimax the first time time in january so we're like we're four months in maybe like yeah like i've used it like three times four times maybe at this point you know four parties not like four times but anyway um so it is worth noting that if you use trimex right this is an injectable that you are injecting into your penis And often when you do that i mean it's just like you go to the doctor and get a shot some that spot where you and put a needle in you're breaking the skin you're breaking the skin sometimes you know i'm thinking like the times i've done it it bleeds maybe 50 of the time right 50 of the time no blood not even a drop of blood comes out 50 of the time like a little tiny drop comes out right and i do the same thing like what you do when you get a shot i would just take some toilet paper and i would just hold it on that you know clean that spot up hold it there pressure for a second and then done with it uh right uh i would say usually when i take trimex it's not like you shoot trimex into your dick and then you fuck two seconds later yeah right it it's it's quicker than like viagra or cialis is um but it's still you know you still probably need like 30 minutes yeah before it really takes like full full effect right so usually what i'll do is i'll go you know we'll be out dancing at the party whatever we're like we're gonna go fuck be like yeah we're gonna go fuck all right we're gonna head back to our room we're gonna get ready we'll take a shower we'll meet you guys in the playroom right as soon as we get back to the room i take my trimex shot might bleed a little whatever cool clean that up then i hop in the shower right so now i take a shower right then by the time we get done with that we the hot water running all over your dick it's starting to chub up a little yeah yeah then you know then by the time we get done with that usually now my they're starting to get hard maybe lacy sucks a little bit in the room now it's like rock hard we head to the play room again i'm not a doctor but there's no blood ever actively coming out of my dick at that point in time right uh also we always use condoms yeah right so in the in the condom where i usually for penetrative sex where you shoot the shot into you they recommend it like kind of like uh on the side of your dick so it's like mid shaft so it's covered by the condom when you're having penetrative sex right now for oral sex it is not covered right and so i actually looked up uh and this is on chat gbt because i wasn't 100 sure and i kind of want to double check myself, but to transmit, um, HIV, it does have to be, um, a blood to blood exchange, right?
So if you just, if you just suck somebody's dick who happens to have taken a Trimex shot and they're bleeding a little bit and you don't have any cuts or sores or bleeding in your mouth, you can't, that's not a blood to blood exchange, right? You can't, you won't get HIV that way. And I'm actually, I'll read it here, right? So I said, can blood in your mouth give you HIV, you know, or would you have, you have to have an active cut in your mouth, right? That's the question I asked ChatGBT.
It says short answer, blood in your mouth alone doesn't automatically give you HIV transmission depends on whether the virus can enter your bloodstream, how this works. HIV is transmitted through infected fluids, like blood entering the body. The mouth is generally a low risk environment because saliva helps to break down the virus, right? So it's saying the saliva in your mouth, the virus doesn't transmit through your saliva very well. So this makes it a lower risk environment.
However, risk increases if there is a direct pathway into your bloodstream, such as open cuts, sores in your mouth bleeding gums uh gum disease recent dental work or injuries so uh no no cuts in a health a healthy mouth extremely low to near zero risk right this is chat gbt saying it's not me um but no cuts in a healthy healthy mouth if somebody did happen to still have a spot of blood on their dick from the needle injection uh pretty low low to near zero risk is what chat gbt says if you have cut sores or bleeding gums present risk is still lower because of the saliva but it zero, right?
So if you do have actively bleeding in your mouth, you do have some risk if somebody has an injection site that is actively bleeding.
And also, so this goes on to say the blood would have to come from somebody who is HIV positive and has a detectableable viral load so if you don't know nowadays with uh hiv medications you can actually get your viral load down enough so that you're not even transmittable even though you have an active case of hiv right so if it's even if it was somebody that had hiv but is on medications even if you have cuts in your mouth and they are bleeding there's still a low chance of that transmission right uh so to answer your question yes it is a risk right if somebody takes a trimex shot it is a risk especially if you have cuts or things in your mouth i think having not using protection in any form is a risk so like not using doing penetrative sex without not a lot of swingers to do oral without like a dental dam or something like that there is a risk associate i mean yes the hiv is definitely a risk but there's also a a whole mess of other ones that you're probably more likely to get yeah i would say you know getting orallamydia or gonorrhea is probably, because here's the, you know, the honest thing nowadays, people that have HIV, almost all of them, if not all of them, are on some kind of medication that's managing their viral load for that HIV, right?
Especially if they're a responsible adult, they're taking medication that is handling that viral load, which then makes the risk significantly less. And like you're saying, the risk of unprotected oral sex in a swinger environment, you're much more likely to catch chlamydia or gonorrhea or oral gonorrhea than you are HIV.
Because the truth is, I mean, we don't know everyone, obviously, but I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting hiv from has it happened yes i'm sure it has i've never heard of it have i heard of gonorrhea chlamydia mg weekly to be super transparent you know we we hear about it quite often so i do think that no matter how you engage in the lifestyle there is a risk of any and all of these things i think you have to do like you have to do a risk assessment and decide where you fall on that um and especially like i've seen a lot of reddit posts about people that are immunocompromised like that you know like should you know what did they do to protect i mean obviously if you're you're if you're in in one of those situations your risk are going to be much higher than your average person so i think that's like regard like yes try this trimex situation does bring in a risk but the truth is they're like there you could cut yourself the truth is you could cut yourself shaving and have a little thing there or you could bite your inside of your lip and then a girl could suck your dick and you know there's always going to be dan gets nosebleeds when he takes viagra and it's not uncommon for his nose to just bust out bleeding in the middle of a playroom there's that risk i mean there's always going to be some sort of risk and i i do think that her question is very valid, especially about not knowing if someone has done trimix.
But the truth is we don't know what any of these people have done behind closed doors. Yes. Like you said, you don't know if they've nicked their dick while they were shaving that day. You don't know if they, you know. Like one time I was playing and a guy cut my vagina with his wedding ring finger in me. You know, like, but that, you know, you just don't know. Yeah. I've had girls, um, you know, bleed just from having fucking just from sex. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, I mean, there's lots of different variations or variables, I guess, within that.
And so at some point in the lifestyle, we can talk about risk and we can figure out where we fall.
But you have to sort of just know that they're going to be there and find and figure out where you're comfortable with yeah I think my takeaway from that is maybe you know and this is probably if if you had active cuts in your mouth maybe it's not a good idea for you to be sucking dick but I think that kind of goes if you have cuts in your mouth or sores in your mouth or active bleeding in your mouth you probably don't feel like sucking dick right like you probably just wouldn't do that right also like having a conversation with somebody but like hey i you know um here's my hiv test i'm a little worried about it you know do you have when's the last time that you were tested and then like do you do you use viagra do you just sharing test ask questions.
And honestly, what I've found is that people that have nothing to hide, don't mind sharing. Like if you asked me right now, this very second to see my STD results, I could pull it up in two seconds, whatever you need. I would probably have to ask Lacey to show it to you, just to be clear, because I know that we are doing the right thing.
If somebody is like, uh, and they fiddle around or whatever then there's that probably tells you what you need to know red flag run yeah that tells you what you need to know so like making all of these conversations like comfortable and like not scary is the best the best advice i could give you like if you're just really freaked out about hiv and you have no good reason other than that's your thing and that you're freaked out by it just say hey I'm super freaked out about HIV did you take Trimax I just want to make sure you know I mean just like be honest be just just be you find people that accept you for you and your quirkiness and whatever because we all have something that we are worried about right so whatever that is just be honest and and just i'd rather you just put it out there and like nip that in the bud then it become a bigger issue yeah i guess my takeaway though is from you know once i read all that i don't i don't feel like trimex specifically somebody having to stick a needle in their dick puts them at a significantly higher risk than anybody else.
It doesn't, but sometimes being worried about something doesn't make logical sense. You can have an explanation in it. For somebody that struggles with it. Now, if you are a person that has active bleeding in your mouth, honestly, you probably just shouldn't be sucking dick at that point. If your wife has active bleeding in her mouth, she probably just should not be sucking dick at that point. And that Yeah. And that would probably be just a good. I think if you have active bleeding on your body, maybe like sit this one out, period. Yeah. Well, that's the case.
You know, what he's saying is Trimex does expose you to that. It does. It does. But truly, by the time, again, you take the shot, you shower, you get ready, you head to the playroom, that active bleeding is done. You know what I mean?
So I think it's a pretty low risk um you know and if if your wife is worried about it i would say as long as she doesn't have active bleeding in her mouth she probably doesn't need to worry about it and if she does have active bleeding in her mouth she probably needs to not suck dick yeah and consult your doctor yeah and ask your doctor confirm all that could you imagine having that conversation with your doctor yeah i'm about i i like sucking random guys dick that aren't my husband and i know some of them take trimex shots should i be concerned about you imagine getting their blood in my mouth yeah yeah um but it is it is an interesting conversation honestly i have heard the whole trimex you know somebody penetrating their dick with a needle and that you know increasing risk and i i have no doubt that it does then increase risk yeah they do have an active you know kind of a wound on their dick um but if they're using condoms and getting tested um and you know you have a mouth that doesn't have an active bleeding um it seems like it's it's a pretty minimal risk yes i agree uh all right anything else for the swing nation listeners all right if you have a tuesday talk question we would love to hear from you there's a few different ways you can get a hold of us you can call or or i'm sorry you can email us and that email is the swing nation at gmail.com the swing nation at gmail now you can send your question in the email you can send your question in a voice note to the email, or you can send a video message via email to that email.
And we'll try to, I actually, our TV is not working right now. I can't, I couldn't get it to connect to the screen sharing thing. So I got to work on that. But if you send us a video, I'll figure the TV thing out and we'll play that for you. And if you don't want to to email us you can also call or text and that phone number is 972-302-7716 one more time 972-302-7716 right so text your questions there uh call and leave a voice message or send a video uh that way yeah uh and you can also send your dick pictures for Lacey and your boobs and vagina for me.
And Lacey's apparently been hoarding those from me but she's going to show them to me tonight. I even got a pussy feel, I mean a cum filled vagina. Oh you did? Yeah. There you go. How do you feel about that? You're not really... Is a cum-filled vagina a turn-on for you? Because you don't like cum. I can take it or leave it. It is what it is. You're neutral? Yeah. It doesn't make you... Seeing that, you're not like... No. But you're not like, oh my God. No, I can just swipe away. So it's not like... You don't enjoy looking at it? I mean, I can appreciate.
You would rather it be un-cum-filled, though. I'm pretty neutral. It's the same. Yeah. So a dick and a vagina, no cum. I mean, I can appreciate the work to get the cum. Let's just leave it at that. Like, I appreciate she did some good work to get that cum. She earned it. Yeah. She's a good girl. Yeah. So I can appreciate that. Right. I'm pretty neutral. All right. So if you're a good girl, send us your cum-filled pussy or just any pussy. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Or not. It's up to you. Yeah. All right. Anything else for the Swing Nation listeners? That's it. All right, guys.
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