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Use coupon code TSN at checkout. hey there pineapple people and welcome to the swinging Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy and Southern Girl. And today we have another rendition of our Tuesday Talks. We do. Talking Tuesday. Tuesday Talks with Dan and Lacey. We do. All right. No jingles. They just know that that one is so good that like why even bother? Nobody wants to. Now, to be fair, we're recording this way early. So it's like a day after we recorded the last two of the talks. Yeah. Dan's going out of town for a week. I'm jealous. Going home to visit the parents. I am. So we had to kind of pre-record. Heading up to the great north woods's gonna be cold i looked at the weather it's like 50 degrees really yeah oh i'm jealous it's like below freezing at night really well i'm not jealous about that part but i could take some like 60s like it's been like 70s 80s here so it's been warm yeah i'm excited go see my folks do a little hunting uh yeah i'm excited for you i wish i was going but very happy that you get to go all right are you ready for this week's question i am again you have no idea no you don't know what you're gonna hear i heard you playing one um but i was i couldn't hear the words i just i thought i heard a girl but i don't even know if that's the one you chose all right well let's find out okay hi lacy this is tammy and so i'm like middle-aged and my husband and i have been in the lifestyle for 24 years and here's my question you really want me to get cream pied but how does that happen i mean know everyone gets tested, but isn't a test only as good as the moment they take it? So what do I do? Corner some guy and say, take a test and do nothing until we get the results. And then cream pie me, I feel like it takes a lot of the sexuality out of it so what happens in a case like this thank you wow so when she said she'd been in the lifestyle for 24 years i was like why the hell she asking us a question like we should be asking her the questions but right so this is tammy and she's been in the lifestyle for 24 years with her husband yeah uh which side note we get all the time you're gonna get divorced right yeah all the time we get told by these couples these people on the internet they're saying oh yeah good luck being a swinger that always ends in divorce yeah sammy's been happily married and in the lifestyle for over 24 years look at tammy go so good job tammy congratulations and it sounds like her husband is dirty which i love yeah and he he wants his wife to get cream pied by another man so if listeners are maybe you know maybe you're a little on the vanilla side and you're like what are what are they even what is this cream pie thing yeah what does that mean where they come inside of you without a condom on so like the actual cum is inside of you right so this is a male coming inside of a female's vagina without protection yeah that's known as a cream pie which is a huge kink and fantasy oh for sure for a lot of people when i was a single, it was something that I was commonly requested. Really?
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Yeah. You'd actually be surprised. And you did it? Yeah. I did it a few times. Did they require you to get tested or anything? No. Which is, I mean, I maybe showed them, maybe one or two of them, test results. None of them were like that. I don't feel like you were as good at testing when you were a single male as you. I totally was not, no. honestly before we had the podcast i had been tested some but the podcast really got our asses in shape it has opened my eyes to you know to it i think also content creation yeah so being a content creator you know the only fan stuff and and working with other models who take um protecting themselves very seriously has really upped our game. Yeah, we've learned a lot.
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So, yeah, we've definitely come a long way in the last few years with that. Not to call you out on that or anything. No, but you're right. You're not wrong. But it is a thing that couples commonly did request that. So, Tammy's question is, and I think she's on board.
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She sounds like it. She wants to do this, but she's a little nervous about how does she find a guy and make sure that he's clean before she does this. You don't say clean. You're right. I apologize for that. It's okay. It's kind of like one of those words that we said growing up that you can no longer say anymore and you have to untrain yourself from saying that. There's a few of them and I've caught myself occasionally and I've even said clean and dirty as far as STI. Make sure they are negative. Correct, yeah. STI negative. Didn't mean to, like, call you out there. No, no, it's a good... Sorry. It's a good correction, and you're right. Yeah. And the reason Lacey says that is because the stigma is if you catch an STI that you're somehow dirty. Yeah. But in all reality, a lot of STIs, you can catch them almost like you catch a common cold, and you never look at somebody that caught a cold and be like oh you're dirty yeah it just means you you encountered a yeah an infectious disease yeah yeah so how do you find a guy who is down for all of this um okay so first of all it's not if you're gonna do it and protect yourself it's probably not going to be like a situation where you meet a guy in a bar and he throws you against the wall and he fucks you and you come, you know, this, that's not what we're going to have here. Cause those are the cases where you act, then you do end up with something. So in this case, if it was me and Tammy, I'm not, no expert, but I'm just going to give you my opinion if this was me and this was your fantasy i would find someone that i had played with a few times and that i was comfortable with somebody you trust yeah somebody that i trust and i literally just go to them and say exactly what you just said to us this is my our fan yeah like i don't know her husband's name what's pretend he's robert oh robert wants a man to come inside of me and i want to do it that's hot but i want to be safe about it I'm going to do it. That's hot, but I want to be safe about it. How do you feel like the next time you get your STD test, as soon as you get your results, we do this? But even with that, to be honest, like she said, is the test results only as good as the day she's absolutely right yeah so i think when she asked this question that was one of the first things i thought of yeah some people don't necessarily understand fti tests and how they work or like how long they're good for or if you take a test how long does it take to get the results so it's just a snapshot in time right so let's let's just go over that real quick all right so there's basically two ways that you can get tested you can do it at home test right which means somebody mails you the test you you know take some blood samples you pee in something you swab some stuff you mail that in right so when you take that test and you mail it in what's it take about a week yeah about a week so from the time you take that test to this you send that test result it can take up to a week something maybe it's three or four days depending on how far you are from the the lab and the test center but it's going to take a few days right so in Tammy's case if she found a guy and he took a at home test that male would have to abstain from sex with anybody else for almost a week before they engaged to truly make sure that he didn't catch anything to then spread to Tammy, right? Which, if this is a single male, a bull type of figure that she's looking to play with, I don't know a lot of males that don't want to have sex for a week. Yeah, even someone that's coupled, like if it's a couple, like then that wife of that husband doesn't get to fuck her husband for a week. Maybe would get tested together and then yeah yeah but but you're right yeah so that this could be difficult right uh then the other way you can get tested which is a little more rapid is you can go into a doctor's office take a test usually when you take those tests you can get them back in 24 to 48 hours-ish. Some can do it quicker. Like, if you do some of the, like, talent testing. Right. Sometimes you actually, like, almost go to the lab. Yeah. You know, and you can... And if this is something you really want to do, you may want to research and find somewhere like that. Yeah. And then, usually, those you can get a response in 24 hours. So, in this case, I think in-person testing would be probably more ideal for you but then you still have to find a person you trust trust that they're going to go get tested and then you know and trust that they're telling you that they're saying they didn't have sex and you actually believe it dan and i've been burned we've been pretty public about that we had a couple that we played with that that was our thing we we didn't not use condoms with anybody this is not the same situation but it proved to us that we really couldn't trust anybody but each other and if this was me i would have a hard time trusting someone to not have sex and like i think that's a little a lot to ask too like if somebody's got a wife and i'm like can you not have sex for a week i don't know i feel like that's like a that's a big test so you might have to give a little i don't i don't know to make this happen i don't know yeah and so you know we always kind of say the gold standard or um so content creators generally require a test within two weeks before they'll engage and most content creators engage with each other without using protection uh we we me and lacy do not do that we still require um protection for everybody we play with but we're still having unprotected oral sex and stuff with content creators so we still are at risk but they usually require somebody to have a test within two weeks um and then you know they're really getting tested every two weeks. And they're pretty good about if they, you know, something comes up, then, you know, they tell people that they engage with and abstain until they can get treated and then come back to work, so to speak. So, you know, if the test is older than two weeks, it's basically worthless for most people. Yeah, but you, yeah, I still think that's hard for me. Yeah on the personal level that's me and lacy we're getting tested what every 45 days yeah yeah pretty much and we usually only have one content yeah and it's typically somebody that we've played with before so we're not normally not adding new partners and it's somebody that we're pretty close with very rarely do we just have one off right which is kind of why we keep that protection in place because because it's really it's hard to be to get tested and be able to trust that test if there if any amount of time has passed so i mean i personally i it's a super hot fantasy. I just think executing it and executing it safely is hard. And unless you really have like a close friend that you really can trust, I just think this will be a hard task. Yeah. No, I think it's 100% what you said. Tammy needs to find somebody that she trusts. Yeah. Maybe she has a male play partner that they, you know, if she's been in the lifestyle for 24 years, i'm sure they have some play partners that they're friends with um maybe you can go to one of them and say hey this is our fantasy that we'd like to engage with but we want to make sure we do it safely can you guys get tested can we plan it can we plan a weekend to do this well you know and what would be hot is if like both couples got tested and both couples like do it with each other didn't have sex with anybody or each other and um so like and they it was like a lead up maybe they like were texting and like use it as foreplay almost you could you could twist it somehow and make it work right for you i think that's how if we were going to do it if we if a couple came to us and they said oh we have this fantasy right and they asked us can dan cream pie my wife right i think we would do this we would plan a weekend i would say no you would say no yeah i would because you just aren't why why would you say no i'm curious couple things one the safety it's not really worth i mean it's not i don't know i don't find it hot enough to take that risk and two there's something special about it that it's like the one thing i really keep for myself does that make sense yeah that that so that thin latex barrier changes it for you um no it doesn't change it i would be fine like i would survive if you Like, it would not be, like, earth-shattering. But if I had to choose a preference, I would prefer that you not come in. It just makes me feel like that's our husband and wife connection. That's something that no one else gets. It's interesting. I mean, we're going off on a tangent, but it isn't, like, you can squirt on his dick. You can come on his face. You can jerk off on her her face and come on her tits but do not cream pie it's interesting but i didn't it's not it's i don't have a reason why i guess because it's always just been mine and so now it's kind of hard to i don't know okay so well that that is interesting and we'll sidebar that because it's kind of derails what we're talking about here a little bit but but what i would say if we were trying to do this and we were both consenting to it we would find a couple that you know find a weekend with this couple we would all get tested and then when we go to this weekend and we would we would do the thing but it would have to be somebody you trust you trusted another thing i would probably do if this was really our fantasy is not come for like a day or two before. Because it's so hard for me to come in that situation. I think we would like abstain from having an orgasm or at least I would abstain from having an orgasm for a day or two before. So that when we did it, it's like I was ready to go. Okay. So back on our tangent question. How would you feel if a man came in me? Would that bother you? don't think so no really especially if it was like somebody so in my head it'd be like if life of spice had a fantasy if he if they came to us mr and mrs spice came to us and said this is our fantasy we think it'd be really hot and honestly i think you might even change your opinion you know i think because we're close friends yeah so it would depend we'd have to have a conversation and see how everybody felt about it so we totally ambushed your question and made it about us i apologize but i think i could be okay with it people bringing up these questions like we joke all the time that this is our therapy but it really makes us open our eyes talk about things that maybe we've never sat down and talked about so thank you for letting us take over your question yeah but but a hundred percent tammy if you were trying to do this i think the way to do it is to find somebody you trust have everybody get tested and then kind of plan this this fantasy and then live it out i think that's the only way to do it and be safe about it yeah otherwise you you just basically have to do it and then go get tested and see if you're good yeah but i think the way to do it is to pre-plan it all right now that we derailed that question a little bit but i think it's also important to see this because i don't know if i would have guessed that would have been a hard limit for you i would have guessed casually you wouldn't have wanted that but i would have guessed if a close couple to us had came to you and said this is our fantasy depending on who that couple was we might i wouldn't say it's a hard no i would definitely have to do some soul searching like thinking on it um if it was a stranger hell no but yeah somebody close to us i would think on it but i still think i would lean towards no interesting yeah interesting okay if other people so thank you for your tuesday talk questions we appreciate you if anybody else has a tuesday talk question and they'd like to ask us they can give us a call and that phone number is 972-302-7716 one more time 972-302-7716 and if you don't feel comfortable sharing your voice on the Swing Nation podcast, you can email us at theswingnation at gmail.com, theswingnation at gmail.com. 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