Send us Fan MailThe Swing Nation PodcastReal-Life Swinger Stories: Introductions | Episode 1In this swinger podcast episode, Dan and Lacy introduce us to The Swing Nation Podcast. They tell a little bit about themselves, how they were introduced to the world of swinging, and the story of how they met. They share what their intentions are in making the swinger podcast, The Swing Nation. Tune in to hear the very beginning! _______________ - The Swing Nation - Main Website Quick Navigation Website: -- (Find all our social media links more!) Follow us on Facebook! The Podcast Website_______________ - Swinger Society - Our Website to meet, connect events Swinger Society Discord Our Facebook Group_______________ - Swinger Websites - SDCUsername: TheSwingNation** Use code 36313 for 14 days free! ** SLSUsername: NorthernGuynSouthernGirl_______________ - Merch More - The Swing Nation Merch The Swinger Pride Flags Swinger Society Merch_______________ - Lacy’s Fun Links - VIP OnlyFans PREMIUM OnlyFans _______________ -- THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS -- Shameless Care: ED Medication and at home STD testingUse Code TSN at checkout for $30 off your order! Promescent® Make Love Longer, It’s Time for Great SexUse Code SwingNation for 5% off! Pinaq Liqueur; The Official Drink of The Swing NationUse Code TSN at checkout for 15% off! Non-monogamy Couples Course and Single Guy Mastery CourseUse Code ATLANTA for 50% off!Support the show- Thank you for the support! -
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Speaker1: This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us, and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe. Interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Hey there, pineapple people. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, your hosts northern guy and southern girl and today's podcast we're going to give you the story of us yeah how we met and then a little bit about the podcast and what our goals are yeah if we can figure all this podcasty stuff out and actually get this uploaded yeah but we made it we did we're here a few uh a few delays not because of me no nothing to do with you no not because of me no we i guess we won't talk about that huh no um go ahead we always get people ask us how we met how we got in lifestyle what brought us here so today we're going to talk about how we met how we became swingers and the story of us it's a story Speaker2: it's a story yeah yeah um so i guess to start i'll i'll give my little spiel so i am the northern guy aka dan and i think most people we go by first names on tiktok yeah we go by dan lacy yeah and i'm from new england um i have uh i was previously married and i have two high school age children I'm not sure. Speaker1: I'm not sure. Speaker2: I'm not sure. I. Yeah, and I'm from New England. I was previously married, and I have two high school-age children. And then I got into the lifestyle about five years ago. So I was dating a girl, and she was telling me a story about how her and her husband were doing, her ex-husband, were doing something. I was like, wait a minute, what? It didn't quite make sense. And I don't remember exactly what she said and but I caught it and she's like oh I should probably explain uh me and my husband we were swingers I was like oh and she's like uh you know I was like well tell me like I was very very curious right I was like tell me tell me about that how does that work and so she explained it and she's like you know in the conversation she's like would that be something you would be interested in and I was like yeah like of course it is so um we got on SOS we made a profile and uh we met a few couples uh we didn't do a lot I mean we weren't super involved in the lifestyle but we met a few couples had a few experiences and um our relationship obviously didn't last um nothing to do with swinging just it ended up not working out and uh but once we broke up i uh i stayed in the lifestyle and i made it i just switched the profile from a couple to a single male and uh just kept uh kept doing my thing there um and then a few years later i was i was traveling work, and I met this cute unicorn. That's me. So why don't you tell us a little bit about this cute unicorn? So I'm also 37.
Speaker1:
A little side note, we are 36 hours apart. Right. I'm older. You are older, much to your dismay. So yeah, so I'm 37. I was married before, divorced. I have an 11-year-old son. Um, I was brought into the library. I an 11 year old son um i was brought into the lifestyle because i was dating a guy who mentioned a sex club and that there was this club in national tennessee and you could go and watch people openly have sex so i was kind of intrigued i mean i had never done anything quiet like that but was really into it and so i brought it up again and he was like let's go so we did we made a pact that if either one of us felt uncomfortable when we went we would immediately leave we went it's a good pact to have yeah we went i had a blast and he was not about it no no we did anything. We just observed, but he felt very uncomfortable. So how did you, that first, we get asked that a lot, your first experience. How was that for you? It really wasn't an experience. It was more of an observation. Yeah, but I mean, like when you first walk in the club and you see everything going on. Yes. These are my people. I'm all about this life.
Speaker2:
Was there lots of things?
Speaker3:
Oh, yes.
Speaker1:
There was lots of sex going on.
Speaker2:
And that was Minaj, right?
Speaker1:
It was Minaj in Nashville. And it was like porn, but in real life.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
That's the best way I can describe it.
Speaker2:
That is a good way to describe at least the red room of some of these clubs.
Speaker3:
Yes.
Speaker1:
Yeah, and my first experience was a little different. I think we met a couple at a bar we had drinks we talked um i think we ended up playing that night um because everything went very well um but it was you know a little different than the club scene the one-on-one kind of yeah so me and the guy didn't end up we never were swingers together it didn't go any farther than that but we did break up but i was super intrigued by the lifestyle so i started listening to podcasts and um heard about sls so i made a profile on sls and i decided to start meeting couples had no idea that that made me a unicorn but it did it did it made you a unicorn you didn't know how coveted that title was at the time i did not i didn't truly know until we were like actually in a relationship and we were trying to find unicorns and i was like oh we have not had much luck no i was like oh i get it now right yeah you get why they were so i do i get why everybody loved me how happy to see you yeah so that's pretty much the story of me yeah and then fast forward how Thank you. so i do i get why everybody loved me how happy to see you yeah so that's pretty much the story of me yeah and then fast forward how long were you a unicorn for um a few years two years and then uh so the story of how we met is i guess somewhat interesting i think so yeah so you messaged we actually met on sls which we haven't met many couples that have met actually met on sls a few i think we've met i mean i don't know about sls but in the lifestyle i think we've met a few yeah very not many though yeah yeah so you messaged me i did which i saw your profile and thought you were really attractive i couldn't see your face but from what i could I could tell, like, your body. And so if you look to be attractive, I noticed that we were the same age and in the same city. What's really odd is I didn't typically message anybody. Right. Because I just didn't have to. I don't mean to sound conceited, but if you know anything about unicorns, you know that you got people. Blowing you up. Blowing you up. So I just very rarely ever messaged anyone. And then I saw your profile and I was like, I'm going to do it.
Speaker2:
You're going to do it.
Speaker3:
Yeah. So, yeah.
Speaker2:
So from my side of the, the, I guess arrangement, I got this email from this attractive unicorn.
Speaker1:
He could only see my boobs,
Speaker2:
not even your boobs. It was like your boobs under a white t-shirt. Yeah i mean you could see your figure yeah i could see the nipple rings you know i did it for you right i mean a white you know it wasn't a wet white t-shirt but it was kind of thin yeah it was just like a thin you could see yeah i couldn't see it but you could see most things yeah and you were single, female, seemed to be, had a nice figure, at least. And I don't remember what your message said. I think your message said something like, to the effect of, how are we the same age, in the same town, both in the lifestyle, and we don't know each other? Yeah, that's pretty much it. I think that's pretty much what it said. And so I responded with that, and was like, well, it's because I'm not not from here i'm traveling from for work but uh if you'd like to get to know me uh i'd like to i'd like to get to know you right or something something along those lines yep so we started talking on kick right we did what swingers do and transitioned off of the slow terrible messaging services of swinger websites and on to kick and uh chatted a little bit we did and decided i think we sent some pictures back and forth that maybe maybe verified with some the way you can kind of verify with a live there's a feature you can send a picture and it kind of says camera on it so you know it's a somebody took it right then um so we kind of verified each other that way and uh we made arrangements to meet. Yeah, but there was one problem. There was a slight hookup. We both had plans for that evening, prior scheduled plans. Right. So I think we were excited to meet, and so we started talking about when, and I think, I don't know if it was you or me that said it first, but, oh, I can't tonight. I was like, well, it's okay. I can't tonight either. Yeah. Somehow we figured out that we both had plans with couples. We both had plans to meet couples that night, that evening. That evening. Right. So I think initially we said, well, we'll just meet the next day or we'll meet later in the week or something like that. But we were eager. We kept chatting, yeah. And I think as the conversation and photo exchanges went on on we got more and more eager to meet each other yeah but we didn't we weren't going to pull out from our previous arrangements pull out uh yeah so we uh we went through with those yeah and then you actually came to my hotel room i did that night and it was was late that night it was late that came in my jammies you must have you're trusting i have ways you didn't kill me thank god yeah here we sit i didn't murder you you didn't rob me no um but uh we made a a little pact before you came over no sex no sex we we were we were very modest because we had had sex with other people right right we're like well if we're gonna have sex with other couples today then uh we can't we can't exactly really funny because it just is it just is if you know you know yeah it's just as funny that we were that modest at that point which most people saying the word modest probably people are like rolling their eyes right now they're driving down the highway they're like these guys are saying they're modest because they didn't hook up with each other after they hooked up with a couple yeah yeah right but we did we made that pact and we stuck to the pack i stuck to the pack i tried you didn't try you tried to have sex with me yeah i was saying i tried to have sex with you i thought you said you And you straight up was like, no, we're not doing it. Right. And I don't know if that's because I had had lots of sex that day. I think you were playing a little hard to get. I think it was more of that. It worked. I was definitely ready to have sex. Oh, yeah. You wanted it. I did want it, but we had made it an agreement, and I'm a gentleman. And I was going to hold up my end of the... We did. So we did everything but have sex. Everything. It was a great night. Not sure if I stayed the night or if I went home. I don't remember. You either went, yeah, you either left at like 2, 3 a.m. or you slept and left at 6 or 7. Yeah, I do know that one morning or one night you were like, well, you can stay the night with me and I'll get up and go to work.
Speaker1:
Just don't rob me.
Speaker2:
Well, was it the first night?
Speaker3:
I don't know.
Speaker2:
Because it would make more sense if it was the first night.
Speaker1:
I was like, well, I mean, I don't want your crap. Like, what am I going to steal?
Speaker3:
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker2:
You got to be careful. Safety first, babe.
Speaker1:
You would just spend the night with me.
Speaker2:
Probably left my laptop or something in the room, right?
Speaker1:
The sex was too good to steal your laptop. I needed to come back and have you did that you couldn't come back no yeah so that we pretty much met and had awesome sex all week long we did and i think we actually had to move our schedule around a bit yeah because i had had a couple i traveled to this town frequently for work and there was a couple i that i had met there on one of my previous trips that i had not i didn't i don't think i was committed to see them that week but but you basically there was some expectations that i would see them throughout the week and uh that ended up not happening no because we i came in and took over we pretty much spent the whole week together when we could yeah like at one point i can remember like one of our last few nights you were like do you want to go out to dinner or go see a movie or do you want to have sex and i was like have sex yeah you didn't you didn't even you i think you were offended that i asked you that question yeah like because we didn't have time to do both no we didn't have time we only had we only had four or five hours that night yeah yeah so we didn't have time for sex and a movie what are we thinking yeah so yeah he left and that was kind of that's your dog trying to eat you yeah sorry she'll make a parent she has to sit in your lap or else she'll bark at us but if i touch her in the wrong spot she'll bite me but if you pet her the wrong way she'll try to bite you she just tried to bite me she's not a very good podcasting dog no we'll get through it though yeah so yeah so it's time for you to leave and you left and it really wasn't a big deal that you live i wasn't like completely head over heels for you um i did have a great week with you and wanted to see you again but it was kind of like if and when you come back to town we'll have another amazing week not right i mean we left on the if if i travel back to your area for work which i probably would i think we knew i would um we'll if we're both still single we'll hook up again yeah we'll hang out again yeah but you left and we continued to chat right so we we had each other's kick and so we continued to conversate on yeah so we just kept chatting and i eventually started to fall for you you started to fall for me yeah yeah i started to like you started to get a little feelings and so i was like can we start texting right not in gig right you wanted my phone number yeah and just for messaging purposes or were you hoping maybe i don't think you even knew my name at this point did you i mean i think i knew your name was dan i don't think i knew your last name right which we won't say here but yeah um i knew your name was dan obviously and you knew my name was lacy and we had this great, amazing week, and then we had continued to chat, and I just was starting to really like you. Right. So, you pushed, I don't know if you pushed, you asked for my phone number. Multiple times. A few times. Yeah. I was like, I need to be able to call him. And I remember you gave it to me, but you were like, you cannot call and text me all the time. Is that what I said? I'm pretty sure. That rude yeah makes sense yeah i was hard to get that yeah he totally played hard to get the entire relationship and it worked men if you're wondering if this works does why does it work because most men had always kind of given me what i wanted and you kind of made me work for it you don't like the guys that trip all over you and i mean i do like those guys but i don't want to like be with them long term okay just for the day yeah or like a few months there you go all right so we sent phone numbers and then we started talking on the phone people still do that yeah we actually did have conversations because you had an hour commute to work every day so you would call me and we would chat and we really really got to know each other during this like talking about like what we wanted like in the future not necessarily with each other just because we lived 500 miles apart so we were very realistic that that probably wouldn't happen but that if we ever got remarried or if we ever dated someone serious again, like what would that look like? Would we always be swingers? Would we always be in the lifestyle? What happens if we tried to go back to monogamy?
Speaker3:
Would it work?
Speaker1:
We had some really awesome conversations.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
I think we talked to, I mean, we had a similar life story as far as yeah how we came from not much um you know got married young had kids young got divorced yeah yeah and so we shared a lot of common commonalities there um yeah we talked through what how do you get me you know how do you maintain a relationship and stay happy and be swingers and non-monogamous. Because we had both struggled with monogamy in the past. So it was just some really good in-depth conversations that I had never been able to have with anybody else. Because people are not open to those type of conversations. I had never dated anyone that I could openly say, I've struggled with staying faithful. Right. And because of the way we we met we knew we were comfortable with that because yeah if you if you met a girl on a normal tinder instead of sls or nothing like that you probably wouldn't throw out real quick oh i'm a swinger yeah yeah we just kind of avoided all like we we were able to just openly talk about all that talk about all that yeah right and then so our relationship progressed yeah and then the next step i wanted to be friends on facebook you wanted to be facebook friends i tried to find his profile but like any good single guy in the lifestyle he had that shit locked i did i did you would you couldn't find it unless i let you find it yeah and i couldn't find it you couldn't do the search my phone number thing and find on Facebook. Yeah, so I was like, let's be Facebook friends. Right, because you wanted to. I wanted to make sure you didn't have a girlfriend. You wanted to stalk all those things. Yeah, kind of. Right. Yeah, basically. And I felt like that made us more of an actual, like, we weren't dating, but, like, more of an actual people that cared about each other and were right going towards that way if we were if i had your number if we were friends on facebook like it felt like it wasn't just this like late night hookup at the holiday end right because i mean i don't know at least five years ago facebook was a little more you're sharing your life with somebody yeah share your facebook with them yeah because you can see my kids you can see yeah what i do on the weekends and yeah yeah so finally talked you into it you did i agreed so we became facebook friends this is a trend throughout our relationship that you talk you into things that i wear you down that's that's true that's true but not so to clarify though on all this stuff i don't think it wasn't that i didn't want a relationship it wasn't that i didn't want to give you my phone number i think my hesitation with going down that road of pursuing a relationship was the fact that we were 600 miles apart that we had you know children from previous relationships that we had you know custody or at least partial custody of where we had to see and spend time with so I think I just didn't see the practicality of becoming anything more than hey when we're around each other let's hook up yeah um because I think I was afraid that if I talk to this girl too much if I get to to know this girl too much, that I might catch feelings for her. And then if I catch feelings for her and we can't have a relationship, that's just going to put myself through pain that I don't want to go through. Yeah. And I totally, the opposite, didn't give a crap about it. And I think we had that conversation several times. I was like, I don't care. And you're like, I don i don't care i'm like figure it out yeah and i'm like well what happens if we fall in love and then it won't work and you're like then at least it happened i'm like we'll figure it out yeah we'll figure it out that was just kind of like so that's like kind of me pushing you a little bit i was just like okay so i just slowly kind of inched my way you did yeah i don't think you don't think you ever really convinced me. It was just like, I didn't want to let you go. Yeah. And I wanted more, so we kept going. Yeah, so we became Facebook friends, and then I really wanted to see you. I wanted to come and visit. It was about a nine-hour drive for me, but I was like, I want to come. I want to drive it see you yeah yeah so you said what you want to come visit me where I lived and um and that's why I agree to that yeah one I literally dropped everything and came to see you like you said yes and I was like packing it out the door in 30 minutes it makes me sound so desperate but I just I don't know i just had a um feeling that this was more than just some random guy i met right i just knew and i can remember driving from my hometown to your hometown or not your hometown from my hometown to where you lived thinking i feel alive right like i was so excited i had never done anything before so like kind of crazy and risky and it just felt really good right yeah and i don't you hadn't been you've you had traveled outside of your hometown oh yeah yeah but never like alone to meet a stranger right yeah so it's kind of a new experience for you and then and so just so we were clear on the timeline we're talking about three basically three solid months between the time we spent the week together and the time you came to see me yes so this is a decent amount of time wasn't like two weeks later it wasn't like you came to run me yeah come find me no you couldn't live without me no no it definitely was a it was a build up a slow progression yeah so i came to visit you we had lots of sex we we did amazing sex but we got outside of the bedroom this time yeah we went hiking i think you took me on a date i think we went out to dinner and drinks yeah which are a little more coupley kind of stuff then because i don't know if we had ever left the hotel room the first week. We had not. No. Yeah.
Speaker3:
So we did some normal couple stuff. Yeah. You know. You fell for me. I think we go out to brunch at a distillery.
Speaker2:
Yeah, we did. We did all of those things, right?
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Walked around and held hands.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
All that stuff.
Speaker1:
Went on a hike.
Speaker3:
Yeah. Yeah. It was good.
Speaker1:
You fell for me, though.
Speaker2:
I did.
Speaker1:
You told me you loved me. Right. Was I the first one to say that, though? No, I said it first. You had said it probably weeks before that. Yeah, probably like a month before, because I just really felt like I was falling in love with you, and I said it, and you didn't say it back. I didn't say it back. It's always plain hard to get, guys. guys always again i think i was still the i don't want to fall in love with this girl because it's just going to hurt me but then when you like had me naked in your bed rubbing my face you just you just well i yeah you got me yeah so that was it we had an amazing weekend and we decided we're gonna try we didn't know what it's gonna look like or if we fail or if we'd succeed but we just knew that we cared about each other right and we wanted to see what and if if right because we had both been single for a while we had both been divorced for you know years um we had tried the dating thing we had you know met people um we knew what the dating scene was like i think we both knew that this whatever this is is rare like you don't come across it every day and um so we were like if we gotta move mountains to try to make it work then then that's what we gotta do so we originally planned to have an open relationship right we didn't do any research to what exactly i think we knew that we couldn't we didn't know how often we were going to be able to see each other yeah because of you know children and work and work and travel and all that stuff and i think we both knew if we waited to have sex until if we were really only having sex once a month we would probably not last very long probably would die or we would we would make or we cheat or yeah that we've done in the past so we were very aware of that right we had been open about all that leading up to this point so we we both knew that it would be a struggle for us so we decided we can do this we were both in the lifestyle when we met we've played with the couples we know how to share like we have we've totally got this we can do it it's too easy too easy we are like experts yeah we're totally experts right if anybody can be in an open relationship it's too swears right yeah we failed we did fail miserably yeah it wasn't it wasn't good i don't even know how i don't know how long the open relationship lasted i don't know maybe a little longer but it was a roller coaster it was awful i had regular friends with benefits in that town that i lived in at the time i was aware of the whole time right you knew about her i think you knew about her before we agreed to be in a relationship oh yeah i mean i knew about her when we were just chatting just chatting right but uh you struggled when she would come and see me i would yeah it was hard i was falling in love with you and then i had to like put those feelings aside while you went and had naughty play time with this girl and she stayed the night and i'm in my mind y'all are y'all are cuddling I just
Speaker2:
I really really struggled with it right and so that was I think you know leading into it you'd be like no it's okay it's fine and then you'd be upset afterwards and it was just kind of that back and forth of you know and then we we talk about it for a week and then we try again and And then, you know.
Speaker1:
Same things just kept happening.
Speaker2:
But you had a couple that you went and saw.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
At least one. talk about it for a week and then we try again and then same things just kept happening um but you had a couple that you would go you went and saw yeah at least once at least in the beginning i did right i didn't continue right right um i had a few things lined up that i was supposed to do but would find excuses to get out of them i just like maybe and that's the girl in me and like the difference between a man and a woman i was really focused on you and so like all of the other relate we're not even relationships or friendships or friends with benefit situations that i had just kind of slowly got kicked to the wayside because you were my priority where you still continue to see her which was fun because we had agreed on that i mean we talked about it yeah but it just wasn't working it wasn't so so we kind of had to have a little come to jesus meeting a little come to jesus like well not come to jesus but yeah what are we going to do this isn't working this clearly isn't working so we either got to admit that we can't do this and it's not going to work or come to some other type of arrangement yeah so. So I, um, had been going through some change of custody, um, conversations with my ex about changing up custody with my son. And, um, because when he, when I first got divorced, my son was two and a baby and me having him pretty much all the time made sense. But now my son was much older and was really wanting more, you know, time with his dad. So we decided to change our custody to 50-50. That was already in the works prior to you and I. It just kind of probably gave me a little bit of incentive to actually pull the trigger. Right. But I committed to spending one week in— With me. With you, I'm going to say, week with you and then one week at home with my son. So, that's what we did. Yeah. I lived in the greater D.C. metropolitan area. And I'm in the south. And you were in the south. Yeah. So, that was quite a drive for you it was a solid nine hours it was pretty rough right and and again so we we came to the agreement that every other or every weekend essentially you would come see me yeah and then spend a week with me and then the next week and drive home yeah and we actually are still doing that to this day so just like a little side conversation we get tons of questions about our lifestyle and why we why we have two homes and why we are the way that we are we are actually still doing that to this day we only have about a year left and then we can go into one household instead of two but people seem to be really caught up on that they think that's super weird that we have two households so i was able to move closer to you so now we're only what like six five and a half six hours apart um but yeah i have work commitments and so it's going to take me a little bit to get to get to you yeah but people really think that's i don't know it's interesting to people like can we have two households? I think when I move closer to you, maybe I'll just keep another house. Whatever. It seems to be working pretty good. That's fine. I can keep all my food stuff. I know you don't want to give up your closets. No, no. Or a closet, I should say. I don't know what I'm going to do. Yeah. Okay, so back on the story. Sorry, that was a side note. But important because we get so many questions about that. We do. So to come and visit him spend one week with him one week at home one week with him one week at home right and then we also decided to do a 30-day monogamous right we said this is you know that month was crazy right we just need to reset take a break from all these you know i let let the group my friends with benefit girl know that hey she was actually moving away so it really worked out extremely well right i think she took another job and she was moving and yeah yeah so it's kind of like perfect timing right you did go see her one last time did i yeah how was that for you it was pretty crappy but you took her to a hotel instead of bringing her to the house which was my only request that was your request yeah but i actually am the one that told you to go because it wasn't her fault that right and we talked about it wasn't wasn't like i was like well i have to see her one last time no no not at all no and we were friends i mean we yeah so yeah we did a 30-day monogamous which ended up being a little bit longer due to the holidays and stuff. Right. And we just kind of reset. We, like, just made everything calm again, kind of got back to basics of what we're, why we were in love and took away all the outside distractions. Well, and then we started, I mean, that was, you know, doing that week on, week off for that month and a half or whatever it was. I mean, that was the most time we'd ever spent together.
Speaker3:
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker1:
So we kind of just figuring each other out and how living together somewhat was like. Yeah, through the holidays together.
Speaker2:
I would cook you breakfast and we'd hang out.
Speaker1:
Yeah, it was really nice. So eventually we did start swinging again.
Speaker3:
We did.
Speaker1:
And it went great. We now do same room, full swap.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
Thank you. So, eventually, we did start swinging again. We did. And it went great. We now do same room, full swap. Right. And we started there. Yeah, and we haven't really. I think because we did that as singles, so it seemed a natural progression to just jump into that. Yeah. We did eventually get married. We did get married. We got married in Vegas. We eloped in vegas not super long ago nope we go our anniversary is 10 10 20 10 20 us and like three million other people in vegas it was a popular day to get married um we got married by vega by elvis in vegas so we got engaged in september and it was in the time of covet we knew we didn't want to have a traditional wedding. It's our second marriage. We just didn't want to deal with it. Right. And our families are on two different. Two completely different sides of the world. Well, not the world, but states. Yeah. Very far apart. So, we just decided, let's just do it. So, we eloped to Vegas. Right. It was really fun. Wegas was a great time it was a good time we we we swang a little bit we did that's a story for another before our wedding not before our wedding maybe we'll tell that in depth yeah that's a good story um so yeah so we have been married for almost a year now we're like at 10 months oh man i should write that down you know it should take notes no you know it right so yeah so and we like i said before we still do one week on and one week off right now it's been three years yeah since we started that we're we're getting towards the end of it right it actually works out really nice we've been swinging that whole time we've yep been swinging the whole time pretty active once a month ish and we get to ask that a lot on tiktok how often do you guys swing yeah and it's about once a month yeah sometimes a little more depending on what's
Speaker2:
going on in our lives you like to try to stack yeah you find out about events and outfits and
Speaker1:
you just want to yeah it's hard for me to say no because i know like our friends are going to be there and i have a little bit of like fomo like iO. Like, I feel left out. I want to go. So, yeah. Right. But realistically, I know once a month is really. It's probably where we need to be at. Yeah, it does. Yeah, I totally agree. I just get a little excited sometimes. Yeah. So, I think the only, that's basically the story of us. Yeah. I think the only thing we maybe skipped over that maybe we should hit on is Topgolf. Oh, Topgolf. So once Dan started coming to visit me. Right, and met your parents. Met my parents and stuff. They were like, what did y'all meet? And we never really came up with a game. We should have probably anticipated that question better. Yeah, we couldn't really say, hey mom mom we met on a swinger website and we hooked it up in the holiday end well now they probably they know now they're listening this is maybe the first time they've heard this i told my sister this story um i'm sorry mom we apologize and lacy's mom i'm sorry we lied to you for three years so um the hotel room that he had at the Holiday Inn just happened to overlook a top golf.
Speaker2:
It did. It had a picturesque view of the driving range. I think with the driving range facing the hotel.
Speaker1:
So you could literally see everything. It was far away, but we would leave the windows open and use that window for a little leverage during our right you would be pinned up against said window when we're having sex so semi-regularly yes so when my mom asked where we met the first thing that popped in my head was top golf top golf that's just the first thing that you could that was the best story you had well we technically we were overlooking a top golf we i mean we were in the vicinity of top so we had to keep the story up i mean i guess technically we still are keeping the story up i mean i don't know so the official story was that we met at top golf i was with some friends you were with some co-workers i think you had gone to top golf around that time maybe i don't know i had not dan's never been to a top i have never been to this day we like he's like maybe i should go to top golf and it was funny because when i told him the store i'm like babe we have to tell everybody that we made a top golf because i told mom i was like i don't even like to golf don't even know how i'm terrible well that's not really what top pops told my mom, I was like, I don't even like to golf.
Speaker3:
Don't even know how.
Speaker1:
I'm terrible. I said, well, that's not really what Topgolf's about. Like, it's more of, like, drinking and socializing.
Speaker2:
I don't know if I could get the ball off of the tee, though.
Speaker3:
You could.
Speaker1:
You would be super competitive.
Speaker3:
Right. Yeah.
Speaker2:
So, I mean, we had met sort of doing driving range things.
Speaker1:
Oh, God.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
But not at the Topgolf.
Speaker1:
Not at the Topgolf. So, that's our story that we had to tell everybody. That was story yeah it's a pretty good story i think so right and that was quite a quite a road from a week of hot sex to married in vegas by elvis yeah but it works story i think you think it's a cool story i think so yeah um so anyway uh so i think that's the story of us you got any other stories any inside any swinging tips tricks no do you miss being a unicorn you get asked that question a lot on tiktok sometimes i'm not gonna lie that would be that would be lying i liked being catered to not that you don't cater to me but like i was like sought after by the husband and the wife i was kind of blind and dined i didn't really have to even try like they paid for me to be in a hotel room and paid for my dinner and bought me presents and i did like that right i'm not gonna lie well you like attention i do like attention right yeah very much yeah and uh i don't i guess there's probably some things i miss about being being a bull i mean you came in and pleasured the wife and then left right i mean honestly for i miss that you know and i guess that's why there's so many single guys and all these apps and stuff because it's kind of for a guy it's kind of the ideal situation you just walk in do your business and then you leave yeah there's no you don't have to you don't have to cuddle you don't have to cuddle you don't have to get text business, and then you leave. Yeah. There's no...
Speaker2:
You don't have to...
Speaker1:
You don't have to cuddle.
Speaker2:
You don't have to cuddle. You don't have to get text messages the next day. You don't have to remember anniversaries.
Speaker1:
Until you find a unicorn who begs you for your phone number.
Speaker3:
That's right.
Speaker1:
And to be Facebook friends.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
And to be your girlfriend.
Speaker2:
Now you've got to do all those things. Totally worth it.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Totally worth it.
Speaker1:
I think so.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
So tell us about this podcast. What are our goals? Like, what are we going to do with this? I don't know. Do you know? Yeah, I don't know. Like, we are not going to sit here and talk about every one of our play dates. No, yeah. So I think we are going to be a little different, right? Yeah. So we listen to all the Swimmer podcasts. And we love them. And we love them all. But we're them all but we're not the be porn podcast you know we're not going to do that active like so if you follow us on tiktok you know we come more from like an educational standpoint like right we try really hard to educate break down the stigma of swingers kind of show different side of swingers so i think that's kind of what we want to do with this podcast as well yeah i think that's that's the key right is the swinger lifestyle is one of i wouldn't say one of the few it it's a lifestyle that still is kind of forced underground right yeah it's you know consenting adults doing consenting adult things but for some reason if your job finds out or if your neighbors find out or you're a horrible person i mean we've had people reach out to us on tiktok and these other places and say that like their families disowned them and they got fired from their job and all forbidden that we can swingers i mean obviously we can't change anybody's employer's mind but we're hoping to shed a different light on swingers to show that it's not what you see in the movies there's not i'm sure there is somewhere but there's not these huge parties where there's the key parties i think everybody thinks swingers just go to these big orgies every weekend yeah that's it that's not it now we will definitely talk about some of our experiences and the places that we go and stuff like that and we'll definitely interview some of our friends and talk about stuff so yeah you're gonna get an inside look into our swinging life we're just not gonna come on each week and say we met so and so this weekend and this is what we did right we're not gonna give the playback and then and then she touched his leg in my yeah yeah i mean it's hot i like those kind of podcasts i like reading that kind of you know those kind of books but i just think we have a different angle here it's just not us yeah and i think especially since we're so public now on tiktok and some of these other platforms that you know our families do know our kids do know we don't i don't want my kids you know if my kids you know listen to this i want them to hear about how you can be non-monogamous and still love somebody you know how it's you know makes you take care of yourself and your body better how you know it it helps you connect with the person you love you know makes you feel even more connected to them yeah uh and not so much the naughty things that dad did last weekend right those are going to be in there a little though yeah a little
Speaker2:
bit yeah just a little we'll tell you we'll tell you if we played with a couple we'll tell you you know we have some awesome trips coming up so i'm pretty excited about that and kind of take our um i don't do we call them fans do we call them i don't know it feels so weird to say we have fans i know or take our friends we're just going to call my friends take our friends along with us um like we're going to secrets next weekend and then we have a big trip to hito in jamaica right that we've literally been paying for like seven so follow along with us we'll tell you because we haven't been to some of these places so we don't know how they work we don't know the ins and outs yeah we'll give you all the information we'll tell you how to find them uh how to you know how it was what you know check in was like you know the whole process kind of break it down for you because i i think this winter lifestyle because it is underground and people don't really share it some of those you know you just almost have to figure it out as you go right how to find places how to like how do you check into a club you know all those little yeah that's literally what we get all the time so we we're hoping that us chatting and not being censored so much by TikTok, we can actually have these conversations and really, you know, we can say words like. We can say sex. We can say shit. Yeah, ass. Dick. Vagina. Pussy. Woo! Yeah, I mean, it's liberating. Sex. Yeah, we can say all those things and not get banned. We don't have to say coffee anymore should still say coffee occasionally coffee is our um our code word for sex on tiktok so right if you don't know yeah yeah so we can say all the words we can tell them things and i do think like like you said it'd be let's find some experts let's talk to some new couples who are just getting started and let people hear about what they're thinking and what they're feeling yeah let's talk to people that have been doing it for 20 30 years and how did they used to find couples in the lifestyle 30 years ago is this pineapple in the grocery cart thing is that really how you found people or ads in the back of swinging magazines or yeah you know we're gonna break it all down we're gonna try to help i mean i'm telling you you know i want to learn how all that happened you know if we can talk to club owners or down. We're going to try to help. I want to learn how all that happened. You know, if we can talk to club owners or, you know, promoters of some of these hotel takeovers, you know, all those kind of, those kind of people, you know, we'll reach out. I don't know if I can figure out how to record off of a phone call, but I think I have a plan for that. Yeah. We'll figure it all out. Just bear with us. We're learning. We're definitely new to all of this. Yeah. And I think that's, that's kind of the goal right so what's let's have a how often are we going to be able to do this we're going to say twice a month is what we're committing ourselves to right so we are we are if i have to stay up till midnight editing audio we are going to get a podcast out twice a month yes but we really would like to shoot for once a week we are going to try yeah but y'all know our schedule we've told you already right one week on and one week off so if we miss a week just know that we try so i think the plan is the weeks we're together we're going to film two episodes and then we'll push one and then wait and then push one the next week. If we can manage. Yes. And I travel for work and you, I mean, it might be a struggle. We're going to miss, we're going to miss weeks. It's going to happen. But we're going to try. We're going to try real hard. Yep. I guess that's it. Is that it? Mm-hmm. What else we got to say? I think that's all. All right. So, and remember in a world full of apples, be a pineapple. Be a pineapple. Bye. Bye, guys. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to theswingnation.net and keep up to date on all things Swing Nation. We thank you so much for joining us and we'll see you next time. Goodbye.
