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Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe, interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Hey there, pineapple people, and welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy. And Southern Girl. And Southern Girl. So today's episode, we have our Halloween special. Yeah.
to the swing nation podcast we are your hosts northern guy and southern girl southern girl uh so today's episode we have our halloween special yeah and we're gonna have a little little naughty q a yeah we thought we'd change it up a bit get a little naughtier than normal yeah so lots of people like want us to dish on the naughtiness all the good stories and we tend to shy away from that um today we thought hey it's halloween let's just let's just do it Thank you.
on the naughtiness all the good stories and we tend to shy away from that um today we thought hey it's halloween let's just let's just do it why not give the people what they want and then after after the naughty q a we have a little little spooky tale little little scariness for the for the audience is it scary or is it just odd it's it's just more odd i don't know it's a little scary there for a moment um so anyway halloween happy happy pre-halloween happy halloween as we're talking we are at hito yeah i mean we're not right now but we will no but we will be we'll be we're recording this a little early so we could have it out while we are gone.
Yes, we'll be on the beach. We'll be naked. Yeah. Drinking Mai Tais or something, some tropical sex on the beach drink or something. Yes. We've probably been bad because it's, what, Thursday? Mm-hmm. So we've had... We've had naughty fun. We can pretty much guarantee it. We've been doing bad things all week. I promise you. Can't wait. Yeah, can't wait. So Halloween. So anyway, talk a little bit about Halloween. What does Halloween mean to this Southern girl? I love going trick-or-treating with my son. I love dressing up. I've always enjoyed Halloween.
Never really been the slutty Halloween dresser. I guess in my 20s, I had a young child and didn't really go out and do anything. So I guess I'm making up for it now in my swinging ways. Yeah, I mean, I guess the good thing about Halloween is it's the one day of the year it's okay to dress like a slut, right? Yeah, even though we do it all the time. Right, for us it's about a once a month.
Well, not us, you, but about a once a month yeah halloween's once a month um but for everybody else so if you want to know what going to clubs and swings like it's like halloween once a month yeah like halloween at a regular club where everyone dresses up that's kind of like what swinging events are but they have a theme that you dress up with right and then there's usually sex at the end of the night it's a good time we highly recommend um halloween hotel takeovers really sad that we didn't get to do one this year but all of them fell on the weekends like we left one saturday we're coming home one saturday so we just wasn't able to make a Halloween hotel takeover this year, which I'm pretty sad about.
They're really my favorite. Yeah. Honestly, we don't usually get to do Halloween or New Year's. And those are the two biggest, right? Most clubs, they go all out for Halloween because it is kind of a slutty holiday. Yeah. And then New Year's, I guess, because it's kind of a drinking holiday. I'm not really sure. But those seem to be the two biggest swinger event weekends. So we hope that you all are able to go to one this year and enjoy it for us. We hope you have planned hotel takeovers and clubs and house parties and... All the things. All of the things this weekend. Yeah.
But don't do anything we wouldn't do. Oh, no. don't do anything we wouldn't i know don't do anything we wouldn't do yeah so uh young young um lacy yeah you uh you did the trick-or-treating thing i did what you drive you around a car you go to a certain neighborhood yeah my mom and dad would take us to certain neighborhoods and like let us out and we would go and we would always trick-or-treat like our grandmother and my aunt um yeah and i was usually i think i was a I'll see you next time.
let us out and we would go and we would always trick or treat like our grandmother and my aunt um yeah and i was usually i think i was a a genie one year i was um a dead cheerleader multiple years yeah cheerleaders kind of a go-to yeah i get it i get it what about you well rural new england you know what would usually happen was we would drive door to door because yeah because it's so far between yeah and see all like the local neighbors which would be all like my parents friends and stuff then usually we drive into one of the towns i bet it was really cold at halloween yeah did you have to wear a jacket with your halloween so sometimes sometimes i mean i think there's a few times when we had like snow flurries on halloween yeah in the south it wasn't that way i mean you always had to plan an outfit to where you could wear like a puffy So, let's see.
So sometimes, I mean, I think there's a few times when we had, like, snow flurries on Halloween. In the South, it wasn't that way. Yeah, you always had to plan an outfit to where you could wear, like, a puffy, you know, like a sweatshirt at least. That always sucks. Yeah. Yeah. There's not too many slutty outfits in New England in October. Oh, I bet they wear a jacket over it and take it off when they get in the club. Yeah, I'm sure they do. Mm-hmm. But anyway going to have naughty Q&A and then a spooky tale. That is our plan for this episode. Yeah, we're giving the people what they wanted.
They wanted the naughty stories, the dirt, the behind the scenes. So here we are. All right, we're going to tell your mom to shut it off now.
Okay, yeah, anybody from my family, we're going to go there there so if you don't want to hear it don't listen this is your warning or again the 25 people from yeah from my hometown dan today a podcast was released and dan like messaged me it's like at lunch he was like four people's already downloaded it from your hometown like the first hour they're on it they are i mean they're supporters they're invested thank you we appreciate you guys yes thank you um click those five stars yes so i reached out on snapchat and said hey guys y'all tell me what you want to know what questions do you want us to ask give us the the naughtiest the whatever you tell us what you want to know so we did get quite a few no holds right no holds um so we we went through and picked out three um and each of them really kind of have a story to go along with them so or two of them do anyway so you get several stories today several naughty stories for halloween yeah all right so what's the first naughty q a so from sam from snapchat wanted to know the weirdest place that we have had sex the weird we had to think about this we did because i mean i don't weirds i guess what the hard part is because we've had sex a lot of places yeah um none of which were i mean i don't know what what would be a weird place.
I don't know. We did think of one occasion that was, it has a story to go along with it. It's a pretty funny story. Yeah. So we decided to share this story. Right. So you want, you want to go, well, what were some runner ups? Maybe sex in the hospital might've been a runner up. Oh yeah. We had sex in the hospital. Which the funny about us having sex in the hospital is, why were you in the hospital? Because you gave me a kidney infection because we had so much sex. And then you came to the hospital and had sex with me in the hospital. Yeah. We kind of forgot about that.
I did forget about that one. It was when we first started dating. Yeah. Yeah, very new. Yeah. We had a bunch of sex. And you, you know, full disclosure, are subject when we have a lot of sex to UTIs. And that can quickly. And it did. It turned into a pretty bad kidney infection. And I was admitted to the hospital. And you came to see me and had sex with me. In the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. So there's one for you. That's a freebie. That's a free story. We weren't even playing in that. Sam, you didn't have to pay for that one. That was off the hip. Okay, so let's get into our true story. Right.
So what this was, again, early on in our dating, we had gone to the mountains in Virginia, which was closer to where I used to live prior to where I live now, and decided to go home for a hike, which that's all sweet and innocent. Yeah. Lacey's a very outdoorsy girl. Not. She loves. No. She loves hiking. No. She loves camping. No. She loves anything outdoors. I love hotel rooms and air conditioned. You enjoyed it. No. A little bit. No. So, we go hiking. Somehow we decide, let's have sex while we're hiking. Yeah, I don't know how that came up.
Again, it was pretty early on and we were having sex all the time anyway. Yeah. And I think we just decided, oh, what would be hottest if we fucked on this trail, like go off the trail a little bit? We weren't off the trail. We were literally on the trail. And we were right by the entrance. Yeah, we didn't do very good. We did not do very good. So I pulled my pants down, and Dan leaned me against the tree. I guess I was bent against the tree. Yeah, the vagina tree. The tree. Why is the, so we have a picture. Let's tell the story and then we'll go back to that. Okay.
So, Dan has my pants down and I'm like, you know, backed up, not backed up. I guess I'm. You're propped up. I'm propped up against the tree and Dan is fucking me from behind. Yeah, so like kind of doggy, but not full doggy. Like standing up doggy behind yeah so like kind of doggy but not full doggy like standing up doggy yeah like a quarter quarter doggy i don't know so he's fucking me and we're enjoying it and i'm probably coming and we look up and here comes a couple walking down the trail and again poor setup i think we just got in the heat of the moment and got carried away.
We did not think. But the poor setup was, like, the trail around the corner, and then, like, there's a tree. Right? So, it wasn't like you could see a good distance. And I'm pretty sure this was, like, summertime, and there was lots of leaves. And so, it was like they came around that corner, and we were just, we are there. It's not like, did they see us? Did they might see us? Oh, no, they saw us. Like, and they started, like, to kind of, like, back up. Like, they didn't know what to do. I think they turned around and started, like, pretending like they're going...
So, we, like, are pulling hands up and, like, we just take off, like, through the woods. Like, we weren't running, but we weren't walking. And just laughing. And we were laughing so hard. And then the couple, like, started walking again. But we didn't know where to go.
Right, because on a trail so there's not like they have to pass us so we like cut through the trail there's like a body of water i think there's a river there yeah we like went to that little we kind of went down by the river like waited a while like let them pass like we're dying laughing and also, too, because they look like, you know, like a completely normal, everyday couple. And here we are. They probably think we're, like, heathens fucking in the woods. Thank God it was a couple and not like a family. Like a family. Oh, geez. Yeah.
So, anyway, so they finally pass us, and we go back to the tree. Right. Yeah, we went back.
I don't think we finished think we finished no no we didn't finish but we took a selfie yeah by the tree not sure why i guess we were proud of our moment well i think we wanted to document it yeah so the picture the tree has a vagina the tree totally has a vagina so if you look at there's a picture of you know lacy probably up against against the tree like we have to share this somehow we'll have to share it on our twitter the week this is out or something so make it probably put on the website or something yeah maybe on twitter yeah check our twitter and instagram you can see it right so anyway there's this tree and it has like a knot in it right yeah like right above like and we're like the selfie is us like pointing at the tree so it's like we're almost pointing at this vagina we didn't even know there was a vagina in the tree we just took a quick selfie right yeah and there was totally a vagina it was the vagina tree so what's funny about that story maybe that's why i'm so horny like subconsciously i saw the giant saw the giant knot vagina.
Maybe. And I was like, hmm. So what's funny is we have, like, Google photos on our TVs. Oh, yeah. So, you know, randomly we'll upload pictures. And so when our TVs are not on, it's flashing different photos. And that picture is in it. Because, honestly, if someone was just to look at it, they think we're just taking a selfie. Right.
They're not like, oh, oh hey there's that picture of you leaning on the tree you just fucked up yeah so it's funny because like our family will be there my son will be there like the picture will come across and i know what it is and i just kind of giggle at myself it's like a funny memory oh that's when we got we fucked by that tree and we got busted by that couple yeah so. So, now we know. If your mom laughs when that picture comes on, we know she didn't turn it off. Yeah. So, that's our weirdest. I mean, that's not even that weird, I don't think. Well, yeah, but what would be weird?
Like, I don't. Like a funeral home? Yeah, no, we have never done. I mean, the hospital was. Yeah, the hospital was pretty weird. I guess the. We fucked in a pool one time. Well, like a public, public pool, not... Yeah, we've got... Did we come back from a club or from a swinging thing? I don't know. For some reason, we were staying in a hotel somewhere, and we came back... It was like a Holiday Inn, like a vanilla normal hotel.
Right, normal hotel, and the pool was supposed to close at like 10 or something, and it was like 9.45, and I think we went to go in and it was locked and we actually i think we actually went we were drunk i think we were drunk we wouldn't ask the lady can you like why is the pool closed and she's like oh it's you know it's almost time and she's like well but do you want to use it we're like yeah kind of i think there was a hot seminar that's why we wanted yeah we we ended up fucking and it was completely glass around us like Like, you could completely see, and it was completely vanilla.
Yeah, so she opened it and let us in, and we fucked it. That's not super weird, either. No, but I don't know. Like, a funeral home would be weird. Yeah. Like, a school would be weird. Anyway, our weird story is the woods we got busted. That's our weird story. That's what we got pretty soon.'s our next question all right so our next question comes from j dog and it's a d-a-w-g i made sure he knew that j dog because he tried to type it d-o-g-g i typed it j-d-o-g-g she's like you spelled it wrong and i said baby i don't think it matters how I spell it if I'm going to read the name.
As long as I say J-Dog, I don't think it reminds me. Well, J-Dog, I got it right. Don't you worry. I got you. She's like, well, just spell it the right way so we know. I was like, okay, babe, I got you. Yeah. So I spelled it the right way. So what's his question? His question is, what is your secret kink?
We have one together yeah don't just put this on me don't just put this one on me well i so i think this you know this is your kink and i just kind of love it so and i'm into it too so yeah we have lots of kink we do some we can share some we cannot yeah well we can share most but yes uh we definitely we are definitely a kinky couple we we enjoy um exploring all kings and as long as it's uh consensual and safe safe sane and consensual i think is the rules most people follow meaning you know safe nobody gets hurt um sane meaning you're of um sound mind and body right um because you know, safe, nobody gets hurt.
Sane, meaning you're of sound mind and body, right? Because, you know, I think that's like a Buddhism, or not a Buddhism, a BDSM thing. How do you always know the BDSM things? Well, it's, they don't, you know, they don't want you under the influence of things and making bad decisions that you might otherwise not have made. Yeah, and consensual, of course. So, we like the daddy kink. Is that what you call it? I think you do call it kind of the daddy. So if you've watched any of our OnlyFans or Snapchat premium, you hear it. You hear Lacey saying, fuck me, Danny. Yeah. You love it. I do love it.
You do. do it drives me wild i don't know what that is especially like if i say yes daddy like if you're telling me to do something and i say that yeah i know how to get my way yeah um that's kind of our thing um we just like it i don't know we also dabble with some, not BDSM, not that, but some level of dom. Dom sub. Yeah. Yeah. You like. I'm definitely submissive. Right. You take the submissive role. I definitely just naturally gravitate to that more dominant role. And I love that. That's like totally my kink.
We've met couples or started chatting with couples and the man's like well i'm definitely more submissive and immediately i'm turned off immediately i'm like well there goes that shit you know i just i don't like a man to be submissive it's not my thing um no judgment but no no judgment all again kinks everybody has their own. And somebody's probably thinking, oh, my gosh, she's batshit crazy because she wants to call him daddy. She probably has daddy issues. Hell, I don't know. Maybe I do. So no judgment. But personally, for me, it just doesn't turn me on. Right.
You definitely like the man to take control. And I think that's kind of weird.
And I like that before you ever came into the picture, for the record um I don't know that I ever called anybody daddy though no I don't think so yeah it's a it's a frequent I mean it's a normal comes up in our sex life daily so question though have you ever I mean I know the answer to this but has other other relationships have you been called daddy before i'm sure i have yeah wait honestly not even just probably even in casual sex sometimes i think just just because that is the role i gravitate to i think it just well i think that's naturally your role like we talked about in the, in the Bull Unicorn podcast, you tend to take that more dominant role in situations.
So it's a natural role to you. Yeah, and I feel like it's something females seek out almost. Like it definitely is something that often, you know.
Well, I'm sure there are some women who are more dominant and want more of a submissive man yeah and just like there's opposite of me where i want a more dominant man yeah so you know without getting too deep into this but i've often found the girls that are more dominant in their real vanilla life tend to want that more than they're like a thousand percent especially i can remember i never really felt that way until i was like a single mom Thank you.
vanilla life tend to want that more than they're like a thousand percent especially I can remember I never really felt that way until I was like a single mom and I felt like you know I worked all day you know I had to be in control at work I was always in control of my son I you know was in control of like our household our bills our everything and so yes I wanted someone to just take control and put my face in the pillow and just fuck the shit out of me like I wanted to give that control to someone for a small amount of time and I feel like I'm still kind of that way now I mean in our relationship no I think yeah yeah because like during the day during everyday lives, I'm not super submissive.
No, I mean. We're more partners than. The truth is, I think we're both very alpha personalities. And so we do clash a lot in day-to-day life. Because I don't think there's not, I don't know if there's a clear leader in our relationship. We're partners. I'd like to think it was me. No, I mean.
No, I think you are a leader but i don't i do think i personally think you are a leader but i do think in a lot of things we are partners we work really hard we both have really good jobs like there's not one clear breadwinner you know we right so i think we do have a partnership right more so than a leader no you're right but there there are times in the in the bedroom when you're almost like you crave it. Oh, yeah. Like, I need you to just fuck the shit out of me. Oh, no, I say that. Like, I needed it last night to be super honest with you, and you gave it to me. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
You're absolutely right. Yeah. No, and so in my bold days, I often encountered, you know, the doctors, the lawyers, the, you know, whoever, the, you know, it's almost, and a lot of them were like the alphas of their family as well. And probably their husbands would be more submissive to them. And so they just kind of crave that somebody to just take control, so to speak. I feel like all the women in my family are kind of like alphas in their family. Like, does that make sense? I mean, would you kind of agree with that? Like, in a lot of ways? So I thought...
I feel like all the women in my family are kind of like alphas in their family. Like, does that make sense? I mean, would you kind of agree with that? Like, in a lot of ways? So, I feel like, yeah. A lot of the women that you would probably, you know, that helped raise you or were that mom, you know, that type of figure to you. They're all like the leaders of the family. Yeah. Yeah. I can get it. So, yeah, I absolutely absolutely crave it. So that's, that's our, that's our secret kink. It's not really a secret to be honest with you. We don't really try to keep it under wraps.
I mean, if you watch any of our only fans and Snapchat, you hear it. Yeah. I think, I think we've even got people comment back saying like, Oh, when she called you daddy, that was so hot. I feel like a lot of guys like that too i think that's like our common thing yeah i think i don't i don't know what that is i think you know guys like feeling in charge yeah and having that that power dynamic and um at least some guys and yeah but you know i get on snapchat especially because i do a lot of the chit-chatting with people on Snapchat.
I get asked at least a couple times a week if I will be, like, dominant over a man and talk down to them, make fun of them. And I can't do it. No. I tell them no every time. They offer to pay me, and I'm like, no, that's just not. I mean, don't get me wrong. We love money, and, we're here. This is a business, but I'm not going to do something that's not authentically me. And that's just not who I am. I would totally be forcing something. It would be odd and I don't like it. It's just not who I am. All right. Do we crush the daddy kink? I think we did. They're all judging us. Judge away.
I know you like it too. Yeah, we know they do. If you're getting wet, then, you know, that tells you the truth. Mm-hmm. All right, moving on. Last question. What is a weird situation that you've had swinging? And that is from Heather via Snapchat. Right.
So we're going to, gonna we have a i don't know if it's weird but we had an uncomfortable um event to happen during a encounter we've told this story on lives before so you may have heard it i guess we'll probably go into more detail because we can be more open um but like anytime anybody's like what is a bad experience that you have this is it right and it's not even necessarily that it's bad it was okay i mean we made the best of it yeah it was fine um but it's definitely a story to be told um yeah and to be fair so if if anybody's listening who knows if the people that were in part of this listen i don't think we have any hard feelings oh no not at all we've actually played with this couple after this story um so keep that in mind when you're hearing it we think highly of this couple um we are aware that not all swingers are perfect right like there's been a time and maybe that's a story for another day where i got jealous and I stormed out of the room.
So we can't, we can't judge others for making mistakes as well. You know, so we very much respect them. Um, honestly, we would hang out with them again. Um, so if you, if you hearing this, just know that this is not at all a negative story to you, but it is a weird story.
And everyone involved could agree with that yeah uh and i think you know to talk about that this that's a good like almost cautionary tale is if you're in this lifestyle long enough shit's gonna happen shit is going to happen and but you it's all in how you deal with it right and it's good to step back and realize like okay, like, okay, there's alcohol involved. There's emotions involved. People, you know, sometimes people just have a bad day where they feel jealous or insecurities or uncomfortable. And especially as a girl, I know that I'm not perfect.
And there's going to be another time that I fuck up and I show my ass. And I just hope that people give me grace to understand that I've messed up. So just take all of that into account as you hear this story. And I think really the, what separates the good swingers from the, the toxic ones would be the people that the next day can realize that they made a mistake and can come back and say, Hey, like I know last night, you know, maybe not even the next day, but a week later, whatever. And say, hey, hey, guys. That sucked. I know what happened was uncomfortable.
You know, a lot of times it's a self-reflection thing. You know, I handled myself poorly. Nothing on you. You know, if you guys would like to hang out again, I'd love to. But, you know, whatever. Yeah. I think that's the way to handle those scenarios. So we're going to change their names to be nice. So we're going call them, she will be C and he will be D. The D. The D. So, we met this couple actually at a bar, believe it or not. Not on SLS, not on SDC. Right, through mutual.
We were there with swingers and they happened to show up and they didn't know we were swingers at first and then after you know a little while they figured out we were swingers um but we didn't play with them that night um we left i don't think we played any movie no we left that was that's a whole nother story for another day that was a crazy night too but we didn't play with them we left um and some time passed on passed yeah no but we say i think we maybe do we exchange kicks yeah i think like we're i'm face up friends with both of them um so yeah we we because they are from our our my hometown so we do know them we know them in like a normal setting as well so i didn't mind being friends with facebook on them we actually to be honest with you are friends with a lot of couples that we swing with on facebook i know a lot of people don't do that but we do so um we have friends on facebook exchange kicked i think we even messaged on sls so each other could see their profiles because we were interested right yeah and it was obvious that they were interested as well.
Yeah, very attractive couple. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I think eventually, I mean, I don't know if it was probably weeks or maybe even months later. Yeah, it was a little while later. It just so happened that I think they were, what happened was they were going out on their boat. And they knew we were in the area. And they even messaged us and said, hey, we're on the boat today. You know, would you like to come hang out with us, right? That's how it started. And we were like, yeah, let's go on a boat. Heck, yeah. Heck, yeah. It was during COVID, you know.
So, yeah, we were like, let's get out and do something. So, we went on their boat and spent the day. And it was fun. It was fantastic. Completely vanilla. There might have been a little touching in the water. I had a thong on in the lake. A little flirty. That's not really vanilla. Yeah. I mean, yeah, flirtiness.
But nobody was, like, hooking up on the hooking up on the boat take your top off no because there was a bunch of kids around remember i felt uncomfortable on my thong because i didn't think about it so i actually kind of just kept my waist in the water so i wasn't disrespectful to the children around us yeah sorry no so we spent the whole day on the water had a good great time with them. Like you said, nothing, you know, maybe some flirting, maybe some touching, but nothing too crazy. And then, you know, come 4 or 5 o'clock, they were like, hey, do you guys want to go into town?
You know, like go back to our houses, change, and meet up downtown and go out and have drinks and things like that. We were like, absolutely. We had had a great day, and we were into and it was fun. Right. Yeah. So that's what we did. We went back to our house, um, changed. I don't know. Maybe took like a little break or something. Yeah. We ate dinner. We had dinner separately. Yeah. And then we met them, um, downtown later that night. And it was fun. Um, we went to a couple of different bars. We drank. I should have known at one point. And Dan and I were not married at this time.
So this was pretty common before Dan and I got married. But, of course, the husband did pull me to the side and say, who takes care of you when Dan's out of town? Red flag, red flag, right? Red flag. And I was like, well, you know, and I just kind of brushed him off because I didn't know quite what to say. And to be honest with you, Dan and I, his boundaries were not as clear then as they are now. And I don't know, because of the way we had met them through mutual friends, I don't know if we ever even had the conversation with them about, hey, these are our rules, these are our limits.
Yeah, no, we had never done that. It's a lesson learned. Lesson, like, once you hear the story, you'll get this. Wow, that's such a big lesson learned. So that was kind of like my first red flag, right? He pulled me to the side. Of course, I blew him off. You know, I knew that, like, I wasn't going to do anything without Dan.
You know knew that was our for sure that was our rule um and but in full disclosure as soon as Dan and I got alone I immediately told him yeah uh and so and you know to put this a little you know so we were drinking all day on the boat now we've been out in town drinking more so we're all pretty getting pretty inebriated at this at this point um and then some point in the night they asked us to go back to they had an apartment yeah on downtown it wasn't their main house but they maintained a you know downtown house so that i guess i don't know if it was just for swinging or whatever yeah we don't know but they had a separate apartment so so we're like yeah you know like we liked them we were down, he, that he overstepped, but I knew that I wasn't going to do that.
So, and Dan was aware that he had done it. So I think we mutually were just like, whatever, we're going. Right. We'll just make it clear that that's not something that we're going to. And I will, you know, and I was going to, you know. So we go to their apartment and when we get there, there is a guy there. Yeah, there was a guy. That worked for them. Yeah. And apparently, he stayed in this apartment, and he didn't have any clothes on. And, you know, I was tipsy or drunk, whichever. Yeah, I guess he was just hanging out in his apartment naked for some reason.
Yeah, I think he lived there, yeah.
And as we walked in, he kind of hustled and went to the bedroom real quick yeah he kind of like scooted off and he was very attractive and i looked at her and i said hey are you fucking him because he's hot as hell of course i had been drinking and i probably wouldn't say that sober or maybe i would i don't know and immediately the look on her face was like oh shit yeah and it just got really quiet and everybody was looking at each other and then him D looks at her and says well are you and like we should have known then yeah it was that it was downhill from this point yeah and i mean to be fair it was you were just kind of trying to be funny yeah no i mean like he was cute and i was just kind of like ha ha are you fucking him i didn't i didn't actually think she was or if she did i assumed that like he knew i don't know um yeah it was all to be fair we still don't know the full story behind it.
No. To this day, we do not know what happened with that, where that went. We just know what happened this night. Right. But it definitely took the oxygen out of the room, so to speak. It made it uncomfortable. Yeah, it was odd. Yeah, so the next thing I know is she goes into the bathroom. We think to change. Yeah. You know, gets ready. And then he brought you to the bedroom. And immediately shut the door. Like, almost to, like, escalate. Well, I don't know if it's immediate. Because he brought you to the bedroom. And then I kind of was just, like, waiting in the living room.
So, I was like, well, you know, they can go make out and get started. And I'll wait. I'll be nice. And I'll wait for her to come out. And then we can kind of go from there. And then, like, a minute or two or three went by and the next thing i know that the door the bedroom where you and him had gone gets like slammed shut yeah and then she's not coming out of the bathroom so poor dan's like i'm just left in the living room like i don't know what to do i don't know what's going on and i was so i was uncomfortable because the door was shut. And I knew that that was not what we did.
But again, I would, you know, I've definitely gotten more assertive as we've become, as we've continued our swinging journey. At this time, I should have stopped in and be like, no, let's keep the door open so they can come in here. But I did not. Right. Well, you probably assumed I would just fix it. Yeah, you do take care of me. Yeah. So it kind of became apparent to me after standing in the living room for a while that, you know, something is wrong. Like, she's not coming out of the bathroom. Like, you know, we had this little awkward moment. She went to the bathroom.
Now she's not coming out of the bathroom. You guys are still in the bedroom. I had no idea where she was or what she was doing. I was having fun. Right. And then I think she did come out of the bathroom and it was clear she was upset and not okay. Yeah, didn't she come sit by you and you were like, are you okay? Yeah. And then next thing I know, she's banging on the door to the guy. The naked guy. The roommate's door and trying to get a hold of him.
And then they like a whisper thing through the door and then like i don't know he didn't want to deal with it and then next thing i know she's like crying like she's like upset and she's like crying and she's texting him right she's i don't know yeah she's texting the guy i don't know who she's texting if she's texting her husband or the guy no he was not on his phone well i mean i don't know she was trying to text he was focused on me not the phone yeah um and so she's crying doors are locked um you guys are like you can hear moaning and coming from that room uh and i'm just like what the fuck is going on right now like i don't i don't know how to like what do i do yeah um so at some point i'm is just, like, I tried to, like, console her.
She ended up going in the room with him and shutting the door, correct? Maybe. Yeah. No, I think you did. All right. I think she ended up going into the other, the roommate or whoever he was room and closing the door. So then I'm by myself. And so I'm like, all right, this isn't. So I busted up into the room you were with, with the husband. And I was like, babe, we got to go. And you're like, what? And he was like, no, no. What are you talking about? Like, it's fine. She's fine. She's totally fine. He's like, come in here. We'll just have a threesome.
And I'm like, well, your wife is clearly upset about something. She's crying, you know. And he's like, well, that's fine. She'll be all right. Like, just join us.
join us and i was like no like yeah like you were pretty insistent right yeah like i mean one that's not really our thing but secondly like we're not just gonna fuck in here and leave your your wife yeah we didn't feel right in the other room crying i think you even said like we like y'all and we care about this right so you know we don't want to like we don't want to disrespect anybody yeah you know obviously something is going on here i don't know what well we don't want to be a part of it you guys figure it out and call us later call us when it's figured out um so yeah so i get up and you know mid fuck yeah and put my clothes on and i'm still I have really no idea what all has happened because I was in there enjoying myself so I'm like what's you know like what's going on I'm so confused but he's obviously like we say we're partners but in that moment he definitely was like the leader he was like no we're leaving and I didn't push back I got up I put my clothes on and i was like let's go then so we left yeah and a few hours later we did get a text yeah i don't what i don't remember what um like she was upset or something yeah i think that he instead of just being honest because we all knew what happened right she's fucking the guy know, right?
She's fucking the guy. She got busted. She got, you know, worried about it. And he obviously didn't really care that much or not in that moment. He was more worried about fucking me. But he kind of insinuated that she had been drinking all day and she just kind of hit a wall and she was over it and just didn't want to play with anybody.
It's kind what he insinuated and and i think i was pretty honest back and was like well i don't really think that's what happened but okay you know i think like really not our business yeah like that's not our business we get it you know things happen we all had been drinking no worries but he kind of insinuated that like maybe she wasn't into dan and like she had been drinking and was just kind of over it the night and that's what happened and we kind of knew that that really didn't fit what had actually happened no there were still some some gray areas yeah so that that was our super awkward weird situation um we ended and we ended up like, in the beginning, we ended up hanging out with him again.
And we were really nervous how it would go because we did. We played with him again. We did. And we both had sex. I had sex with him. You had sex with her. I mean, we really enjoyed her, which is, again, is kind of funny because he kind of insinuated that she wasn't super into Dan, but she obviously was. She was into me the next time.
Oh she was like I think you were the first person that she fucked like um so you know and again like we said in the beginning look that's their drama that something between them happened that night that had nothing to do with us we just kind of got caught we got caught in the middle of it and honestly if the roles were roles were reversed, yeah, I mean, we would probably handle that worse than they did. I'd probably be like cussing. You'd probably be screaming at me. We'd be throwing shit. Yeah. So no judgment at all. No. Shit happens. Right. We're swingers.
And they also, like, let me add to this, like, in hindsight, we should have set our clear boundaries. Right.
And we also learned about them that they are in more of like an open relationship um so for them you know him shutting the door him mentioning hey i'll take care of you when dan's not in town like that's all perfectly legit in their relationship right maybe not fucking the employee right maybe that's not but everything else what yeah was so what so what they did wasn't overstepping where it was for our boundaries right does that make sense yeah no and it goes back to what we've always said is when you meet a new couple regardless of how you meet them don't skip over that conversation no it's so important these are our rules these are our boundaries that way it's clear because what's uncomfortable is again like if we get upset with him for you know something that he had no idea aside and saying hey what do you do when when dan's not in town um and he just didn't realize that we weren't an open couple yeah then that's you know it's not really you know just like we assume that people are full swap and stuff like that like he probably just assumed that we were similar we weren't married we lived in different states i mean it makes sense why he would think that right yeah so that was an awkward night yeah it was awkward but feelings.
No. If you're listening to this, we love y'all. Invite us back to a house party. We had fun. We'll do it again. We'll do it again. Yeah. So last, we really wanted to share a crazy story. A spooky tale. It's not spooky. I don't know why you keep saying that. A spooky tale. It's not spooky. It was the scariest night of my life. Bullshit. It was the scariest night of my life. Bullshit. Okay. So we we wanted to tell, like, a crazy story of swinging. That's why we kind of told that last story. And we were thinking about, like, another, like, memorable night to tell a story.
And the night before we got married popped up. Right. Which is really appropriate because this is our one year anniversary this month. It is. So it's been one year since this happened. One year since we got married. Yeah. And Viva Las Vegas by Elvis. During COVID. During COVID. Yeah. Scariest night of my life. Oh bullshit.
So we were goinggas and like to me vegas is like your ultimate swinging town in my mind i don't know if it is but in my mind it fucking should be it should be right it should be vegas vegas listen up i don't know who your mayor is but well it was during covid so the problem so we obviously we were going our wedding. And I was kind of hesitant to swing at first on our wedding because I was like, you know, this is about us. It's not about, like, other people. But then we were like, well, you know, we are swingers. Are you kidding me? That was your idea. Shut up.
You were like, we've got to find a swing club and fuck some people i was hesitant you weren't fucking hesitant what are you talking about i was says okay so we we planned to go the night before our wedding yeah i was hesitant about that okay yeah i think there was some debate on should we go because we got married on a saturday yeah and so we were like oh should we go thursday or friday and yeah and friday seemed to be the best night like for crowds we said we're gonna go on thursday because that way you know there was a little more time between we didn't want i didn't want to be hung over potentially fucking other people and getting on our wedding day right um but then uh right then the club owner when we finally got a hold of club they're like no you don't want to come here on Thursday.
You want to come here on Friday because Friday things are happening. Yeah, so we had trouble finding a place. There's a pretty popular place at the Green Door. I think that's what it's called. Right. So we had trouble finding one because all of the clubs and bars were closed in New Orleans.
i mean las vegas not new orleans sorry um but after some research we found a buddhist temple yeah what was it called the something something buddhist i don't know it's not even we don't even tell them it's not worth finding it's not worth looking up save your money um yeah and i i don't know how a buddhist temple became a swingers um spot um i don't know if it actually was a buddhist temple or if they just were using that to avoid covid guidelines protocols yeah yeah we don't know yeah so it turns out the reason this buddhist temple love shack place was able to stay open is because they weren't listed as a club.
It was a church. They were listed as a religious place. Yeah, and it definitely was a very zen spa-like, like a love guru type hippie vibe. Right. But if you look this place up online. It looks legit. And they had probably one of the best Swinger websites I've ever seen. Yeah, it looks legit. Hot supermodel looking people in their pictures. Yeah. The pool looks amazing and big. And you're like, wow, this place is impressive. So they kind of sold it like it's an all-day party. Like when you go, you get an all-day pass, like 24 hours. No, no, it wasn't a 12-hour pass. Oh, okay, whatever.
But you can spend like the day at the pool, and then you can go back and get ready for the night. And we actually originally kind of planned to spend the whole day there.
But because we weren't in Vegas for long, we really wanted to do some things during the day so we ended up saying we'll just go at night yeah so our plan was yeah we'll hang out in Vegas during day one and then we'll go at night yeah and then also on their their uh website they had all these celebrities like Cardi B and Justin Bieber so we were like hell yeah we're going to Vegas yeah we were like this is going to be the night of our lives so we dress like super cute um I have on like a white sheer outfit I think I have like a bride sash and oh yeah yeah I mean like probably a crown yeah I mean we we were ready I had like hot pink shoes a white dress like I was bride out you know because we were literally getting married like in less than 24 hours right and i had the white button up i think they even have like a tuxedo t-shirt or something yeah i don't we were we were you know we're looking good we're looking good yeah all right so then we get in the uber and put in the address and just like freaking chemistry yeah we're driving through these back roads of this i mean there's churches everywhere like i thought we were gonna be on like the strip in vegas and we know we were like on a back 30 40 minutes off the strip on some back road that's not lit well and there's all these closed churches everywhere yeah and the uber driver of course is like where are you trying to go and we're like uh the buddhist the buddhist temple as we're dressed completely like we're going yeah and so we kind of skipped over this when i called to book it let's keep in mind this was like 250 at least it was not cheap not cheap um they didn't provide anything so this is byob no food no really anything um so it was not cheap.
Not cheap. They didn't provide anything. So this is BYOB, no food, no really anything. So it was not cheap. The lady very much sold this was like Friday night. Well, she really said Saturday night was a busy night, but obviously we couldn't go as we were getting married. So she was like, Friday night will still be just as busy. It'll be, you know, not as busy, but pretty busy. And there'll be lots of couples. You'll have so much fun. And, like, she really sold it. Like, I was ready. So, we walk in.
We find the place, which was, like, a hole in the wall, like, in a shopping, not a shopping center, like a, what would you call that? Office complex, sort of? No, I mean, it was, like, the church neighborhood.
Like, all these like all these buildings were churches like they were you know like places of worship all over the place as we're dressed like i think that the jewish church was like across the street or something so we go walking in and we pay justin bieber cardi b all these celebrities have like signed their names on their wall like their autographs we're thinking good yeah okay and it was nice like when you walked like we're dressed to the knots like we look hot as shit like we look like we are going out and the facilities weren't i mean it had like nice like marble floors yeah it was nice yeah but we go on the tour right so the lady asked us like most most swinger places, would you like me to take you on a tour?
Yeah. We're like, yeah, take us on a tour. Mm-hmm. And so she walks us through the building, which the building was okay. Yeah, it was nice. Yeah. The snack area had like water and chips and stuff and drinks. You know, I think they had Coke and Pepsi. Yeah, they didn't have a bar, but they did have like a little table with some refreshments. Right.
And then, you know, they walked in, you know, there's a fireplace and there's a fireplace and you know some i don't bean bags and stuff on the floor some locker rooms yeah um then we go back out of the church the temple yeah into the backyard which is like a zen garden is the best way i can describe it like salt water pools lots of greenery a hot tub um some cabana like structures yeah very very nice their their facility was out there was beautiful it's pretty small though yeah it was very small like not much bigger than a normal backyard yeah right yeah imagine your typical subdivision backyard yeah and it was that size but but nice like astroturf and hot tubes and, you know, very nice facilities.
But there was five couples there. There was ten people. And all of them are completely nude, like, hair up on top of their head, not... Sitting in the big hot tub. Yeah, not, like, fancy looking, like, completely like they've been at the pool all day. And we are, I'm in high heels walking through this garden.
Well then she asked us well you wanted to see the play area yeah i'm like the play area in the club is what she said yeah i said oh okay yeah show us the player in the club and she takes us into the play area and it was a bedroom yeah it was a bedroom it was just had a circle bed in the middle and the lights are off no no No, no, that's the club. That's not the player yet. Oh, I don't even remember the player. That was the club. The player was like a, I don't know, it was like, I think they rented out rooms. Oh, yeah, you could stay there. You could stay there.
They did have like hotel-y type rooms. Hotel-y, motel-y type rooms. I think essentially it was like one of those rooms, that was the playroom. Yeah.
And it think maybe a bed or two in there and yeah it wasn't much and then say it takes us to the club all right here's our club and we walk in and this is essentially like a hotel room sized room right yeah but it did have it was more of a playroom to be honest you had a circle bed in the middle in the middle and like couches around the outside but there was no dance floor no there was like there was a dj booth but no dj no dj there was like an ipod playing music ipod hooked to some speakers yeah um the lights were off they had some black lights um nobody was in there at this point no it was completely empty so i'm like so what time does all the couples show up she's like no this is it this is a.
This is a Friday night in Las Vegas. And she had totally sold us that this was going to be like. And Vegas was packed. I mean, you couldn't walk down the strip. I know it was COVID, but there was plenty of people in Vegas to fill this place up. And like, she totally sold it. Like, it was just going to be people everywhere.
And when I asked, she was like, no it and me and dan look at each other like are you fucking kidding me i think we even said do we want to just leave like yeah because like we only went to vegas for like four or five days like we weren't there for like you know so we didn't have a ton of time we were getting married the next day there was plenty that we could have done you know yeah i said we said fuck it let's get naked and go hang out in the hot tub and just see because a couple of couples were pretty hot yeah like just go hang out in the hot tub we'll just we'll mingle for a while and if we're not feeling it we'll leave so our beautiful outfits that we had just you know all the makeup all the hate my hair all the work that we had done to like look cute to go out now, and it's stuffed in a locker, and we're butt naked, getting in a hot tub.
With five couples we've never met. Yeah. Yeah. But they were very nice. They were nice. I would say there was, out of the five couples, there was probably only two that we would ever even have entertained playing with. Correct.
All nice, super nice people nice um yeah very nice um and we hung out and chit-chatted and had fun nothing nothing crazy in the hot tub at all no there was no there was one couple that we were really into right and they were like european or something yeah something like that they were on their way german and he was i don't yeah they were really attractive so me and Dan were like that's our couple like we're gonna get our $250 worth you know like we're not idiots we did target them so we totally targeted them and there was the other couple who were still attractive but not as attractive but they were the other couple that we said we would play with but um so Dan and I are sitting there like chit-chatting.
The next thing we know that this couple gets up and leaves with that couple. Yeah. We've been only in the pool less than an hour. Yeah. And then they get up and they're like, okay. And then they just walk off together. Me and Dan are like, oh, now, our swinging style, we tend to, like, get the people that we like. I mean, is that conceited to say? No, no, that's fine. You know, if there's somebody in a club that we want to play with, nine times out of ten, or maybe eight times out of ten, maybe not nine, we can pretty much play with whoever we want. That sounds awful. No, I don't think so.
I mean, I don't know. We're a relatively attractive couple. We don't typically have a hard time pulling couples in. Right. That are eager to pull, like, if don't think. I mean, I don't know. We're a relatively attractive couple. We don't typically have a hard time pulling couples in. Right. That are eager to pull, like, if they're willing, you know. Right. The stars have to align a little bit. Yeah. So when this couple got up and left with them, we were like, oh, hell no. That was our couple. Right. So we did what we hate people to do. Right.
Well, could tell they they went to the the club which was the playroom they went to have sex and we were like oh no we're getting in on that so we followed him yeah we said well fuck it let's just go we're going which we hate when people do that right when we're at a club and we're playing with our friends or something you get that couple that kind of like slides in and you're like, where the fuck did this couple come from? We were that couple that night. No. Yeah. So we went to the playroom and they had gotten on the circle bed in the middle and they were doing their thing.
And I think we started on the couch. So we just like, fuck it. We'll just go in here and have sex too and watch them. And if that's all that happens, that's great. And if, if we. Babe, we were trying to fuck them. Well, yeah. No, we were trying to. But I think that was our approach. We'll go in there and start having sex. Maybe they'll let us join. While they're having sex. Maybe they'll invite us to join. Yeah. Whatever. But they kind of got... They were wrapped up in their own thing there. Yeah. But I kind of, like, started touching the wife. Well, no. So we were fucking on the couch.
And then I said, baby, let's...
Because this bed was very big, the wife well no so we were fucking on the couch and then i said baby let's because a bit this bed was very big the circle bed so let's move to the circle bed and you were like i don't know that's kind of like i'm like it's fine i mean we'll just you know we'll play with each other next to them and if you know see what happens and we kind of debated it for a minute and we're like fuck it like we're doing it we're here we pay the 250 and so we got in the circle bed and i think we did what you should do if you want to play with a couple you know i think one of us had asked at some point oh do you mind if i i think you asked it's okay if i touch her boobs or something like that and then that's all it took that's all it took and then it ended up in a kind of we got in a three-way yeah um funny it wasn't...
It wasn't that good. No, it wasn't. The hot couple was fucking fucked up. We didn't know that until Dan was fucking her, and then it was very apparent. She was on top of him, so it wasn't... She was definitely very consensual, but he realized, holy shit, she's fucked up. Right.
And I wasn't feeling the husband feeling the husband like i think at one point i like mouth to you like save me yeah like it just wasn't good they did the classic where they were too drunk to where it was almost not yeah it wasn't fun they were just too yeah yeah um and then um we we joke about this all the time, but Frozen, let it go, started playing over the speakers. Yeah, so I think the wife is riding me, and the husband's on top of you, and we're all fucking, and then all of a sudden... Let it go!...comes on the speaker. Let it go!
Oh, and then in addition to that, the other couples that were in the hot tub had all... And they were all trying to get in. Had all. They were doing the same thing that we were doing, however, they were not. They were getting shot down. They were not. The one, there was one man who, I don't know where he was from. He was like an Indian man, but he kept, like he was almost aggressive, like trying to get in, like and touch me and stuff. And he would have said no thank you. Yeah.
So like all we are fucking to frozen right let it go there's three couples in the bed and then another two or three couples trying to join watching and then frozen comes on and i'm like somebody hit the next button like skip this like you're not a real swinger unless you fucked at a buddhist temple in las vegas to frozen i mean i'm just saying yeah so shortly after that i mean like i'm literally mouthing today i'm like save me save me yeah um yeah i'm done it just wasn't they were too drunk yeah i mean the whole vibe wasn't really yeah it was they were hot i mean they were very and i consented to allow him to have sex with me i wasn't not consenting i just was over it it was not enjoyable anymore yeah frozen's playing like i've got this man that i'm having to keep an eye on i was just ready i'm just like i'm done we came we did we saw let's get out of here yeah so we played for what an hour or so i mean we were only at that place maybe probably less than two hours.
Yeah. Yeah. Less than two hours. You know, it took us an hour to go from you know, walking in naked hot tub playroom fuck for an hour and then it's like, all right. We're out. We're done. We're out. And we left. And so I think we went back to the strip. Because it was still early. It was still only like 10, 11 o'clock at night. No, I think we actually like, because I think we actually were fucking past midnight. Oh, were we? Yeah, because that was like our wedding day. So we were fucking these people on our wedding day. Oh, yes. True story. Thank you. And 11 o'clock at night.
No, I think we actually, like, because I think we actually were fucking past midnight. Oh, were we? Yeah, because that was, like, our wedding day. So, we were fucking these people on our wedding day. Oh, yes. True story. So, that's the story of us the night before our wedding. Yeah. Yeah. Then we got up and we left and went back. That's the strip. Yeah, and got married the next day. And got married. I think we even played.
Did we go play with some blackjack some blackjack and stuff probably i don't know i don't remember yeah but it was quite it was quite the story it is quite the story so what do you think i don't think it's spooky it's crazy as shit i don't know if it's spooky you gotta we had to build it up yeah spooky scary but we really wanted this we really wanted this episode to be a little bit different. I mean, obviously, it's not really Halloween-themed. But we wanted to try to change it up a bit. People were begging for naughty stories, so we gave you a few. And then I touched her leg.
Then he slid inside me. And her sweet, wet, pussy lips looked at me in the eye. Stop, I can't handle it. And she said, fuck me, daddy. Oh, yeah, I did. So, yeah. So, that's pretty much our stories. I hope you like it. I hope we did some justice. Justice to the Halloween special. Yeah. All right. So, the next episode will be a recap of Hedo. Hedo. Woo. We're hoping to bring our podcast gear. That's the plan. We've got to figure out our packing. That's the plan. I've got to figure out if I can bring a suitcase because I know Lacey's going to have like six. Oh, hush.
So yeah, the plan is to podcast from Hedo. We'd like to get a couple of podcasts in. Maybe interview a few of our friends um if they're willing so yeah so hopefully we can get a few podcasts out um let all relate to Hedo so be on the lookout for that we will be there for seven days so a lot of days a lot of content normally we swing like one night and we have a whole podcast for that one night. So, um, so seven days, shit, we should have a ton of time to talk about the whole month of November. So we're really excited.
This is our first like all inclusive outside of the U S um, lifestyle situation. So we are pumped. Pumped. I'm excited. So yeah, so I guess that's it. I think that's it. Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloween. Hope you are naughty and wear a slutty costume. Fuck all the bitches. Yeah, fuck all the bitches. And now we got to get back to the pool, babe. Yeah. Oh, there's that hot couple that I think want to fuck us tonight. Yeah, we'll have to go fuck a hot couple at Hedo. Yeah, it's going to be good. It's going to be a good time.
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