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easy that's right if you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and tiktok head on over to swingersociety.net can't wait to see you there hey there pineapple people and welcome to the swing nation podcast we are your hosts northern guy and southern girl in today's episode we have a very special guest for you um one of my favorite type of people in the world actually horny housewives and me i don't know you go together tend to get along um very well and we have one of um probably one of the country's most famous horny housewives here with us today, and it's Jordan, who is the host and creator of the Horny Housewife podcast.
Welcome. Thank you for having me. Welcome. You really hyped me up there. Yeah. It was really nice. It's deserving. I don't think anyone knows who I am.
am one time someone at the grocery store did ask me that that was cool but i think it's just because it's a small town that's all yeah well i actually had that question for you and you know we haven't got there yet but i've noticed on your your podcast you know the cover your face is blurred out but your face is on like instagram and some other social media so are you do you protect your identity or did you at one point protect your identity and now you're out there or what's the story behind the blurred face I just thought honestly with the alliteration of the h and the h the horny house I thought the name was really eye-catching and spicy and I think I just thought the blurred face was I don, endearing a little bit.
I knew there was no way I could protect my identity because I was stupid. And looking back, I'm like, oh, that would have been maybe, that would have been a cool idea, but oops, I'm just too spazzy to do that. I just thought it looked cool, to be completely honest.
And I also think like some housewives are like, maybe think like, oh, the discreet side of me the side that they try to hide so i thought it just went well together yeah yeah so there's there's absolutely nothing wrong with her face so i mean she's gorgeous yeah she's gorgeous so i was curious why why blurred all right so i think where we wanted to start before we got a little sidetracked by your face um was dan's always flirting welcome to dan uh was where uh oh i got i totally got derailed there for a second we wanted to learn a little bit about you jordan so if you could tell us just a little backstory where you're from how you grew up um you know, you know, anything you want to share about yourself, we'd be very interested to hear.
Yeah, for sure. I am 33 years old and I also like regret telling my age everywhere I go. I feel like I should lie. Like that's the smartest thing people could do is lie and say they're younger, but oops, I'm 33 and I live in Washington state, which is not me at all. I moved here eight, no, nine years ago. And it was going to be like a one-year thing. I moved to Nashville for a year. I was single. I could do that. I thought Portland was going to be fun and cool. It's not fun and cool anymore. But after COVID things things just got so, so different here.
But I came here and three days later, I met my now husband. He was my boss's boss, which is you're not supposed to do that. But that made it more fun. And now we're here and he has a son. So we'll be here till he's 18, which is only a few more years. But about me, I'm from Texas. I was born in Dallas. I grew up in Houston. My dad worked in oil. So we moved around a good enough, like plenty of times where, and in the middle of school year where I had to come in and adapt. And I think that probably instilled in me being a people pleaser to be emo for a second, but it did.
I feel like I had to just fit in or try to fit in anyways. And so I don't know, that was a shitty part. But other than that, I had a pretty pleasant, enjoyable childhood on like in all honesty. And then, you know, I had boyfriends, I broke up, I went to college in San Antonio. I'm not like a serial relationship girl. I feel like I would get in long-term relationships and then I would be single and wild, like really wild, and then get in another relationship and then be really, really wild. And then, you know, here I am now. I got married at 28. I feel like that was a good time to get married.
I got to be like really slutty for a long time. And then I have two kids, a stepson who's 13 and a son who is five. And basically the podcast, it was born, the podcast, The Horny Housewife was born in 2021. My mom passed away very suddenly, very tragically in 2019, October. And I think that just fucked me up, like really fucked me up. It totally fucked me up. And then I feel like I had a whole perspective shift on like how I view life and what I want to do and how I'm not going to play small for anyone because Thank you.
And I feel like I had a whole perspective shift on like how I view life and what I want to do and how I'm not going to play small for anyone because life is so fragile. Yeah. So here I am with a podcast. And now I just felt like I wanted that space to be able to talk about.
I couldn't find a podcast that talked about the things that happen in monogamy, how hard it is then a place for all married couples whether they're in open relationships or they swing or they're poly to just talk about the normal feelings whether it's jealousy or just sex getting weird here or how to spice it up all the things that entail being in a long-term relationship with someone whether you have have experiences outside of it or not. Yeah.
And so I was curious, you know, I've listened to your podcast and some of the advice and stuff that you give, and it seems like you're, you're doing like a lot of like relationship therapy type work. Do you have any background on that?
Or is this just firsthand experience that you've, I mean, I've been been in therapy forever so i think that's it i think i'm just i psychoanalyze everything now unfortunately yeah so you take some of the skills you've learned yourself and just kind of apply it to when people ask you questions yeah and i'm a big reader and i feel like i i like to continue my education i take courses and all kinds of things around sex because I want to be a good podcast host and be able to talk about things with knowledge or at least a source.
And then when I can't, then bring a guest on, someone to talk about it. Yeah. So if you haven't listened to her podcast, you need to go and do that. But it's not uncommon to hear about, you know know butt plugs or pegging or or you know you talk about just about anything and you in a very like matter of frank way like it's you know it's not embarrassing it's not you just these are the facts and these are what i know and you know um how how did you become so open with talking about those kind of subjects have you always just been you know sexual in nature sexual in nature?
Are you just not embarrassed by that? I mean, I think, yeah, I think that's just my personality. Unfortunately, I'm, uh, unfortunately, maybe that's a great thing. I think sometimes it's weird. I mean, of course y'all do, but I mean, are there people, I don't know, there are stupid people. I mean, like really uptight people out there. That was rude. I shouldn't say stupid. But there are really annoying, uptight people or judgmental, judgmental people. That's a better word.
So I think that's just, my mother was really like, my mom was totally religious, but she was also like, I would go in her drawers and find like all the toys like the tapes the man thong like so many dildos and I'm just like wow you know I they were I could tell that they were pretty sexual themselves and I admired that I'm like wow my parents like each other you know because a lot of times you a sleepover and, or at least I did, and the parents slept in separate beds or they fucking hated each other. So I think it's just my personality to be intentional and like sex feels good.
And I mean, I guess I would say I have an addictive personality, you know, and I think that just rolls over into sex. So, yeah, I think we can relate. We can relate to that. Yeah. I love that you said about your parents finding their dildos and some people, some judgmental people would say that would be traumatic to find something like that of your parents. But I think you made a great point. I think our kids should see that we love each other. Maybe even if it's an unconventional way, I think, I still think it's important for them to see that.
And like, even if it embarrasses them in the moment, like me growing up, I remember being like, ew, or weird, or I would hear my parents in the room and I would be upset. I'm like, and it wasn't horrific. It'd be like my mom giggling or something, but I'm like, that didn't sound like a normal giggle. You know what I mean? Something sounded different about that. And then they'd come out with robes on and be like, are you okay? And I'm like, that was kind of traumatic. Or like, I'm just like left alone. I was told to go to my room. And so that was kind of weird.
But looking back, I'm not like, wow, what like horrific parents, you know, I'm like, oh, they were just two people who were horny, like let them be. Yeah. So, you know, you said your mom passed and that kind of inspired you to start talking about this, but I guess why, how does that connection work where you're just like, all right, screw it. I'm going to start a podcast and I'm going to start talking about all these things that have to do with sex that nobody else is really talking about. And I'm going to just tell it how it is. Like, how does that, I guess, transition happen?
What made, what inspired you to do that? I think, I mean, to be really honest, and maybe I don't even like saying this, but I feel like I should, I wonder if she was still alive, if I would have ever had the balls to do it. Because my mom was not, it's easy to romanticize a person when they pass, which I do all the time. But I mean, she was judgmental. Like I felt like I really wanted my parents' approval. Like I think, I think everyone has daddy issues. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm projecting, but I feel like a lot of people do.
And I think that, I don't know if I would have started it, but she was a very, very authentic person. And I feel, and when I was little, I was like, I just want to be a housewife when I grow up. I just want to be taken care of like she was, and she could get her nails done whenever she wanted and do like shop whenever she wanted. And that's the life. And then like, that's kind of what I chased after. And then my mom always told me, find something else. You will not be fulfilled if that is what you think is going to make you happy, relying on another person.
And, you know, I didn't think she was right. And of course she was right. And I was like, I need to do something for me. I can't just give all the time to other people. I need something for me. And I was not going to have a fucking mommy podcast. You know what I mean? Like that is the last thing that I want to talk about. Cause that's what you see all the, the girls going into like mommy or super mommy mode.
And I'm not hating on the awesome mommies because they're awesome and I'm jealous that they are so put together but I that was not me so I felt like this was something and I'm so grateful to my husband who has just been super supportive and lets me be me yeah so you said you started what 2021 is that what you said I think yeah 2021 do i even answer the questions that you asked me yeah i started in like very well a year later so i mean it took me a second and my husband started a company like shortly before that and it's i've been his cheerleader to chase his dreams and i was like i should just do this and i i didn't know what was going to happen and it's just been really awesome it's just snowballed and I mean I'm trying to constantly find people who believe in the same thing as me but I just consistency has gotten me to where I am now with the podcast yeah and that was gonna be my next question you know so to the listeners out there you know maybe you guys haven't started podcasts or you don't really understand how the podcast world works but it's not really hard to start a podcast um you know anybody can do it it takes a little bit of equipment and you just throw it up there um but it is hard to to gain a following and to be successful at podcasting to monetize podcasts to really build a brand that that is a lot of work um and it sounds like your podcast you know it's about the same age as ours and you've been you know for as far as I see very successful you're high in the charts on you know rating and you know you have sponsors and stuff like that so how did you how were you able to do that you think just people are interested in this subject or I mean I think there's social media like social I mean obviously you know you know what TikTok is like y'all areall are so good at it.
But I think doing that, and then I guess I got lucky, I feel like with going viral a certain amount of times, and that really helps Instagram, I got deleted so many times. And that sucks, because they kind of suck sometimes. But social media, just making videos. And I mean, at one point I printed flyers and hung them everywhere I could downtown and, and I, they all, and like on mailbox, like stuff that was probably illegal. And I don't even know if they were up there for how many hours, but I think I just really hustled trying to get exposure and I have not paid $1 for marketing at all.
And it's just, I think people want to talk about sex too. Married people want to talk about sex a lot. They really do. They need the conversation. They're dying. A lot of them fucking hate each other. And I can't tell you how many letters I get of being like, this totally changed our lives. So that makes me keep going for sure. For sure. Yeah. Uh, so I guess if you had to, you know, if you look at your podcast and it seems like it's a lot about what you're talking about, right.
To how to keep a mainly monogamous relationship spicy, how to be intentional about sex, how to, you know, approach some of these different kinks and fetishes that are out there, how to kind of explore them. You know, if you had to kind of summarize like what you talk about, or what are some of the common questions, what would be kind of a summary of some of that? Well, I think that basically, to sum it up, I say this so many times, but discussing the realities of sex and long term relationships, like talking about the good and the bad. And a lot of the show is based around listener questions.
And so it comes from people of all types because we all have like the same human emotions at the end of the day. And I think that where people really lack or a lot of people, it seems like in is being able to talk about sex. They just't even know I mean it would shock you I'm sure you know how many people just don't know how to come to their partner and share with them what they really desire or what really feels good and it's like I feel like if we all had the affirmation or belief that we were worthy of pleasure I mean imagine how better how better our lives would be.
And the most common question I get is about mismatched libido, someone wanting it way more than the other. And so you've got one person who feels rejected a lot and you're building resentment. And then the other person who, I mean, it could be for a million reasons, whether it's low testosterone for a man or for a woman, maybe she just had babies and her hormones are all fucked up, or maybe she's not attracted to him, or maybe she hates the way he fucks her, or maybe she wants to fuck someone else. You know what I mean?
And I think there are a lot of couples, or I've had some people on who have been monogamous for a long time, and then were like, had the foundation of we're best friends, we respect each other, We've raised our kids. We've done like, we're ready to try something else, but we love each other. And then they go and they explore other avenues. And I think all of these conversations need to be had. So that that's essentially what's happening every Monday is a different topic, whether it's a specific kink that I dive deep on, dive deep on in, dive deep in. No, I'm fucking it up. I don't know.
Do a deep dive on. There we go. Or talking about increasing intimacy, like intimacy being difficult, not always feel good. You know what I mean? How having conversations that hurt your feelings, being like telling them the ugly, ugly truth, even if they're going to hate you for a couple of days, because how can you have better sex if you're in denial or you don't know? Yeah. So does that answer it? No, it does. And it's interesting because we get a lot of couples that approach us. Yeah, very similar questions.
And the questions are always, how do I talk to my partner about being interested in swinging, right? Like, how do I have that conversation with my partner? And for us, it's always like, well, if that's your partner, if that's truly your life partner and the person that you want to be with for the rest of your life, you should be able to talk to them about anything. You know, there shouldn't be anything you can't approach them with and say, hey, babe, I need to talk to you, you know, and this is the thing I want to talk about.
If you're in fear of doing that with your partner, I think you need to reevaluate your relationship. But it is a very real thing because you and I were both married before and I could not go to my ex and say, I want to do X, Y, Z. That conversation would not have went well. So I think that is a learned behavior. And I think people need to realize that. Yeah. No, I agree. That's so interesting. I want to ask you a million questions. But we do get all those questions. I mean, they're all very similar to hers, but just changed into more of like a swinging.
But I do get, like, even personally, like, when people write me, like, woman to woman, I get a lot of those same questions. Like, how do I spice things up? What should I do? And I always, like, really struggle with answering them. So now I'm going to send them to you. Because, I mean, like them the generic answers like wear lingerie, you know, talk about your fantasies and some of that. But there's so much more to that. I think it does go super deep. Like it does.
Like how, like when you were saying learned behavior, it's like how someone grew up in the conversation around sex or maybe never having it. Like my husband grew up in the LDS church. So there was like a lot of shame. Like you didn't talk, that was bad. Like you're not supposed to touch yourself. And they, you know, there were, it's, I think that fucks a person up a little bit. I mean, maybe that's fucked up. I don't want to isolate any group out there, but I, I can't imagine. And so you have to like unlearn that behavior because they feel so much shame around it.
I think it starts with yourself. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And I guess that's the, you know, and we've talked about this several times, but you know, in America, it seems like Americans and their relationship with sex or, you know, the society, the way that we view sex, it doesn't, you know, it seems dysfunctional, especially in today's day and age, like that we don't have, you know, that we can't have more open conversations about it, that it's still very taboo, that anybody that talks about it is shamed, you know, like, I just don't understand how we're still in at that point.
And you're missing out too, because I mean, we only get this one life and, and I feel there's so many people that are just stagnant, staying in shitty situations. And I think that's another thing is I think sometimes they need to hear someone say like, at what point do you walk? You know what I mean? If you have someone who is completely unwilling and you're like, just like you said with your ex-husband and you're like, there's no, I'm not going to be able to even have this conversation.
I don't, I mean, you kind of have to tell someone, maybe you have to break up with them, which sucks because sometimes people want to fix it no matter what. And I think if both people are willing, you can, you can do that. But if one person is not willing to compromise at all or talk about it, then what do you do? No, no, it's very, you know, they say, well, it is the number one causes for divorce or money and sex, right? Those are the two top answers. So like, it seems like sex is such a big deal for so many people. But at the same time, nobody, everybody's afraid to talk about it.
Nobody really wants to dive into it. Yeah, we get that question a lot lot how do I convince my spouse to be a swinger which first of all convince is like that's like a trigger word for me like you're not going to convince anyone to be a swinger but just like you said it's really hard to give someone advice because I don't know what that person grew up with were they raised in a household that if you mentioned sleeping outside of your marriage, would that trigger something? It's hard to really give that good advice when you don't know the other person. Yeah. I feel like I get novels and novel.
It's intimidating when I look at my listener questions because I'm like, I need context because there's always so many factors. You just don't know what's going on with a person. Or they'll ask me a question and I'm like, why are you not asking them that? Like you're asking exactly what you said to me and you need to say to them. So people are afraid of each other, I guess. But that's why these kind of resources and podcasts are so helpful because it inspires conversation. And then even listening together, it can really make it a lot easier, like lube it up. Yeah. It's funny.
We've had a few couples that have approached us and they've said like, um, you know, the way they kind of stumbled into the lifestyle is they realized both them and their partner were like watching our TikToks or listening to our podcast, but they didn't know the other one was doing it.
And like somehow it got, I don't know, they saw it or they brought it up in conversation and it's like oh i've been listening to them too yeah and it's like that's crazy that you know it's weird i don't know do you ever get that feeling i know for us you know we've only been doing this for about two years as well and you know there's times when you kind of look back and you're like this it's kind of crazy that yeah you know that our little podcast or our little tiktoks have have affected people's lives in that way. Do you get a similar feeling? Yeah. Oh my gosh. All the time.
But I feel, I feel like I have intentionally been manifesting to get paid to talk. Like that is just something I've always wanted to do. And so I'm in that like a law of assumption mode. Like I'm assuming it's mine now, but yeah, I think it's wild, but I, I think we're supposed to be doing this. Yeah. You know, I think you're supposed to be doing this. I love that. That's great. All right. I think what we do now is we take a little break to hear from the partners and sponsors of the swing nation podcast.
And then when we get back, I want deep dive with jordan into some of these questions she gets some of these kinks some of these things i want to i want to hear more about all of that if you're if you're okay with that jordan yeah totally all right we'll be right back guys we here at the swing nation podcast are proud to partner with promessant listen guys we've all been there you're having a hot night with a hot chick maybe a few hot chicks but you need to kind of delay the time before you pull that trigger that's where promessant comes in they have this awesome product called the delay spray you literally spray it on and it delays the time that you orgasm so you can make sure that your partner is well taken care of Thank you.
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So we want to talk specifically about some of these things that people keep asking you about. I was reading online last night that there was a study done and it said that 97% of, I think it was individuals, not just couples, admitted to fantasizing about either threesomes or group sex. So as a swinger, I'm very interested in that statistic because it's 97%, which seems like a high number. But I'm curious what other kind of, do you get asked about swinging or group sex or things like that? Oh, yeah, all the time.
And at the top of that would be the the cuckold is that how i say yeah but where they like to see their wife being fucked right isn't is that correct yeah that's correct okay so that's like the number one and when these women are like i'm horrified i'm like you are so lucky. What is wrong with you? He doesn't even want to, he's even coming to you saying that's all we have to do. Like, shut up and take it and run. But I, it's funny. It's funny.
But I get a lot of women also wanting to say like, they want to experience a threesome with another man and they're terrified because he would be all down for a woman but not down for the man which I mean what's your opinion on that I really want to know I think it's kind of shit that it's socially acceptable for a girl to come in like a threesome with a girl and I think a lot of men are comfortable with that they're like hell yeah let's bring a girl in yeah but we find that a lot of men are opposed to bringing in like a single male at first like when you find like when new couples come and they're like oh we're gonna start swinging but we're just gonna add a female like that's all we're gonna do because he doesn't feel comfortable watching me sleep with someone else i'm like well that's bullshit that's one-sided swinging and that doesn't that's not okay i do get that that can be like a stepping stone like it's a little bit safer because it's more socially acceptable to bring in a female so i get that if you're using it for that way but if the husband's like being like a male i don't know what the correct word yeah and he's like no i'm my wife i'm not going to share my wife i don't like that that's where i struggle and i i would actually you know to kind of caveat off that i think an interesting fact would be i bet more people are bringing in single males than than single females probably because i think everyone thinks that just like finding a single female is just like so easy you just get online and then one magically shows up at your door and it's very very hard to find one and i think for me as a female to find one who is hot because obviously we want to be physically attractive but you also don't want to be they can't be like super duper hot because you you don't want to be like in fear that your husband is going to like run away with them yeah and like we've we've struggled finding single females because like I don't want them to live five minutes down the road I need them to be like an hour away I don't want them to be like in our backyard so there's for me to feel comfortable to bring in a single female it takes a lot of like boxes to be checked and i think people who are just trying to explore their sexuality and think oh bringing in a female is hot i think they think it's going to be so easy and it's actually very hard i agree yeah i mean i think isn't that called a unicorn yes yeah it's a mystical creature that may or may not exist yeah yeah they're very hard to find i mean i think you probably have a better chance of going to just like a regular non-swing your club and picking up it's just chick yeah we've always said like if you really want to find a single female you're better off on like non-swinger apps like tinder or bumble or maybe even going to like a college bar and hitting on a chick then because it's just there's not a lot of them in the swinger lifestyle and the ones that are there are inundated by couples trying to impress them.
That makes sense. So if you kind of step outside the swinger bubbles, you might be able to find one a little easier. Yeah, and that's 100% true. But I think there is a huge difference between a single female who is in the lifestyle, who is a true unicorn, who knows about boundaries.
They've done the work to really understand than like a random girl at a bar and i think that's another thing that comes up a lot is like monogamish where couples want to have like a one night experience where they go out and they drink or they they're like we're going on vacation so yeah they don't want to say they're they're living that way but they're like going to have an experience i'm sure you've heard the term so i think that that's what i hear a lot but when it's interesting when you hear the couples like um explaining their distaste for each other and that they're like we can't break up because of the kids kids, but we want to fuck other people.
So we got to try this. And I feel like that sounds really bad and messy coming from like, we respect each other and we don't want to like, we have these boundaries and we're going to communicate and be healthy about it. It seems like one would just blow up in your face. Yeah.
As a swingeringer you see those couples who are using swinging as a band-aid it's very clear um when you meet them i mean yeah it might take a couple conversations but those red drink yeah yeah those red yes you're right no you're absolutely right how many how many couples have we met dan that like as soon as they start drinking the truth comes out the truth comes out well he fucked someone and now we're sweet you know or whatever so that totally happens and for us we like couples who like each other yeah like that's a turn on for us when they're holding hands and they're making eye contact.
That's a big thing for us. Agreed. That makes sense. That makes sense. Okay. So obviously, um, group sex or threesomes is something you get asked about a lot. What are some other, you know, if you had to list off a few other things, what other kind of things come up a lot? A lot of men and women who want to know more about their prostate, like in massaging the prostate externally or internally and just wanting some direction. I feel like, uh, I feel like it's 2023 and guys are like down for that shit now. Like they're more open to talking about it. There we go.
I think before it was like, I mean, at least what I have seen is more, more they don't want anyone to tell anyone and now i feel like they proudly want things in their butthole but i think it's a good topic we've noticed that even in our friend group yeah i think it's a little different so it is interesting so you know and i don't in the swinger community the vast majority of the females identify as bisexual or bi-curious or or at least somewhat interested in playing girl-on-girl play, right? The reverse is true for males, right? There's very much a stigma around bisexual males.
It's been that way for a long time. And so a lot of guys won't. On their profiles, they say they're straight and stuff like that. Me and Lacey actually met in the lifestyle. She was single and I was single and we both played with couples separately. And what I found as a single male is most of the couples that approached me, they would approach me as a bisexual female and a straight male. But at some point in the conversation, they would, hey, are you okay with, are you comfortable with, you know, some, you know, various degrees of bisexual contact, right?
And so I very much have you know, since we've, we've been on this platform that I think there are a lot more bisexual males just in, in life in general, but because of the stigma that surrounds bisexuality that they're just not comfortable sharing or talking about it or things like that. Um, so I think, you know, what you're saying is, you know, not to say necessarily because you like to have your prostate, you know, massage that you're bisexual. But, you know, maybe there's some connection there about the stigma that's surrounding that. And guys are kind of starting to explore that area.
Yeah, but we've even noticed like in our friend group in the last year or so, several guys who have become publicly, you know, have admitted that they are bisexual. So I think, I think it's something to be noted. I think you're 100% right that men are becoming more comfortable in speaking about what turns them on. And it feels good. Like, I mean, there's no shame in what's like, at least trying it out too.
I feel like adding on talking about these kinks and fantasies can lead to like incorporating or trying out dirty talk in a new way incorporating your fantasies or if you think about another you like thinking about your spouse fucking someone and maybe you don't know if you want to do that right now maybe you can start by role playing or dirty talk and then see how it evolves okay so a question and this is this is too personal we can we can skip this question but so when you how do you research this stuff so what people ask you about is this stuff you and your husband go and then explore and then huh i said i feel like when i answer you i'm plugging like a product but i mean okay so how do i find out about these is what you're asking right so if somebody comes to you and it's like oh I'm interested in pegging what is then your your research technique to go figure out more information you just google it and you read about it you and your husband try stuff like how do you oh I mean yeah well my husband I wouldn't have married him if he wasn't down to try all the things.
And, you know, I feel like he knows the type of woman that I am. I don't like have the mindset of forever. It's kind of like present. And right now, like we do what works for us in each season. So who knows what we'll be like when our kids are older. I mean, he's probably going to be looking at me if I, if I was saying this right in front of him, I do, but we try pretty much every, he's pretty willing to let me explore how I want.
And I use specifically, which makes me feel like a saleswoman, but it's called Beducated and I have a code Jordan, but it's this online course platform and they have everything. Like, honestly, if you haven't seen it, you really should. It's called Beducated and I have a code Jordan, but it's this online course platform and they have everything. Like, honestly, if you haven't seen it, you really should. It's ever squirting the art of squirting. Have you heard of tantric?
There's a, there's a ton of that pegging anal play, mutual masturbation, erotic spanking, and they're constantly adding new courses and just the company as a whole, like what they do is so amazing.
And it's video and like there's parts you read, but you're not only getting taught, but you get to see demonstrations and they really, it's like if you were in school to learn about specific fetishes and kinks or like rope tying body bondage all kinds of things that's super cool because then you can do it safely but this i feel like i probably sound so vanilla to y'all but to me it's like a world of things no you don't you don't know yeah that's interesting so you so people ask you questions you go get educated on it and then you come back and you talk about it maybe you seduce your husband into trying some of it yes and i get sent all kinds of toys all the time so i'm always like we have to try this like just and then i can weed out what's gimmicky because some of it is gimmicky you i'm sure'm sure know, but some of it is amazing.
And I'm like, Oh, what a dream to get sent all these toys all the time. Okay. So what's your favorite sex toy? Okay. It's the one that has, I think it's made by womanizer, but it's not the one that's held with the sucky. It has the sucky for your clit and then it curves to the dildo inside of you.
and i so for solo that's my favorite yeah but if i'm with partnered i would rather like him in me with with one area with one hole and then a dildo he can hold or something to stimulate me in front whichever but i don't so i guess separate toys for whatever experience okay so you like the clit stimulation with penetration is your is your go-to yeah that's my go-to and the the air suction thing is like it's amazing if you haven't tried that one lacy has a rose and she's not a huge she's not a huge fan i don't like the rose either i tried no the rose is stupid some Some people are like, it's life-changing.
And I'm like, really? I don't feel that way. So what's the brand of the one that you use that you like? The Womanizer. Womanizer, okay. I'm going to send it to you. Yeah, I think it's on Love Honey. It's on lovehoney.com. Okay, cool. Yeah. I love the wand. Yeah, Lacey's go-to is the Hitachi wand.'s her like yeah okay but not just anyone like blue and white the magic wand like the og original like it can't they have so many like off-brand i hate to say off-brand but like they're you know not yeah but you have to have you have to have the original but i mean does it vibrate? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so it vibrates and you just put it on your clit. I don't even know if it's supposed to be a sex toy. I think it might be supposed to be a body massager. Originally, but now everybody uses it for a sex toy. Yeah, it's one of the, she doesn't even like the battery powered one. She wants the one that plugs into the wall and it takes like.
Yeah, it has like a a 220 amp like you might have to get your do you feel like using a vibrator like that on your clit takes away from your ability to orgasm without a vibrator is that too personal no i don't okay it's just a different type of sex we he jokes that i love being fucked with the um wand at the same time kind of like what you were saying it's just this one doesn't do the sucky motion and he i would fuck every time with it and he very much is like let's save that for every few it's like a once a week thing yeah because i think that's smart though for your clit yeah um so but i can still very much come without it but to me i have a deeper orgasm with it yeah that's the roll back in your head body leg shaking kind of orgasm yeah yeah but i mean like i do appreciate that we don't do it every time because it makes it like when we do it with that it makes like i look forward to it more special yeah for sure but lacy can come a lot i mean she she comes multiple times like on a tuesday like i do i do i'm very fortunate for her yeah yeah blessed woman i know he always tells me that he's like you do realize that not all women are like this and i'm like oh like and we even have people that comment they're like well can you like as far as us being swingers can you finish with someone else like for me and i'm like i wouldn't sex would not be fun if i was having to constantly like not come because i do i can't come that easy so that's not a thing i agree with you and that's one thing that I can't answer I feel like when women ride in and are like I don't know how to climax that's hard because we all have different vaginas and like different things and then when they say their libido like I feel like I feel I feel for the men who have wives with the low libido and feel constantly rejected that makes me feel sad for them.
And I don't understand having no sex drive. I can give suggestions, like get your hormones checked, like see if you hate yourself, like things like that. But I don't know how to be, I feel like we are blessed to be able to have a high drive naturally. Yeah. I get that question a lot too. And I, it's hard for me to answer it. Cause I'm just, I don't know. I just, I want him. Yeah. I guess I don't, you know, you probably study this more than we do, but what, what is a normal, like a married couple? How many times do they have sex in a week? Like what's the, what is, what is average?
That's like what, that's the, I mean, but I mean, I don't know how they gather these statistics, right.
But that's what's the what is what is average once that's like what that's the i mean but i mean i don't know how they gather these statistics right but that's what's reported is once a week and i bet you that some people are even lying because the amount of people i'll make i'll make a like a tiktok or a reel about like not feeling bad for julie who got cheated on because she hasn't fucked her husband in nine months kind of thing and he's like not people so many julie who got cheated on because she hasn't fucked her husband in nine months kind of thing and he's like not people so many comments were like nine months try two years and it's like how do you even stay like i don't if i don't fuck him for two days he thinks he's being deprived he's like oh my god just as bad as i am if not worse he's like it's Even two whole days, 48 hours.
We have sex usually once a day. We're a once-a-day couple. That's pretty normal. I mean, every once in a while we'll skip a day or maybe skip two days once in a great while. But the normal is once a day, yeah. Because getting off is like a part of your life. Yeah.
But do you – y'all get to keep it spicy and do – I mean, I'm not saying you have it easy or not at all but sometimes i look at y'all and i'm like well they get to be spicy and do crazy no i get that i get that routine gets boring yeah for sure it definitely changes it up even like last night we were having sex and i was talking about how i was going to be like a dirty whore next week, you know? And so like, we can use that, you know, like, like, do you want to watch me be a dirty whore? You know, just like stuff like that. Or even if we're coming off of something, we have that to talk about.
And I don't think, I think a lot of people think that they need to swing to fulfill something. But that is just like a one-night thing. The whole rest of the month is – because we usually swing about once a month. The rest of the month is just him and I. And I don't know how to describe it. It just like – it adds some – like even just being spicy for one night. Yeah, adds so much to your marriage. Adds so much for the rest of the month. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. That's cool. It definitely is like a, you know, you hit that high, and then you kind of ride that out for a while. Yeah.
And I know, it's funny, and even, like, you know, we were at a swinger resort this past weekend, and we didn't really even swap with anybody, but, like, we had sex in the pool in front of, you know, 50 people. We had sex in a playroom in front of 20, 30 people. You know what I mean? Even though we didn't touch anybody or do anything with anybody else, it's still just hot. Yeah, and I think people don't realize that to go to a swingers club, they're not going to check your card on the way out to see how many people you fucked. They don't care.
You can fuck no one or you fuck everyone that's your prerogative and there's so many times where dan and i will go and just like be watched or have you know or watch other people and that in itself is a huge turn on because there's certain people that are just into that right oh for sure and talking in a public setting or being watched yeah yep so anyway you want to do it yeah i mean it's pretty erotic to be fucking in a room full of people just him and i no one else touching us no one else approach you know just him because we had the curtains pulled so that basically means like ask you know we're private we don't want anyone to you know to join us and that is so fucking hot to hear other people like moaning and coming and it's really i mean people should try it even if like swinging is not something that you want to do that in itself is so much fun it's real life porn it's like immersive porn you know yeah you're in a room with 30 other couples that are having sex and you're having sex with your partner it's it's very it's so hot times yeah you know like it's so hot i think the difference is though not everybody's going to look like a supermodel you know i mean like they're they're all normal people which to me and you know right amateur sex is always my favorite anyway so yeah i mean let's think about if you have like a hundred couples so a hundred people so 50 couples maybe 10 are like amazing you know everybody else is you know you have average you you know there's just there's a little bit of everything at every one of these clubs i'm racking my brain with all of the questions i'm gonna ask you bring it yeah we're about to swap with jordan yeah she's gonna go next i do have a question for podcasting um just like woman to woman mom to mom so as your podcast has gotten bigger have you of course i'm in the deep south you're not but have you got any pushback from like your local community or other moms or anything like that?
Yeah. I mean, okay. So my son's five and so he knows mommy podcast, but I mean, he is oblivious, but he does go to private school and believe me, I am nervous, private Christian school. I am nervous. I am nervous, but, uh, cause it's a small town I live in, but I just, um, I'm just praying they're going to be like Jesus-like and not be judgmental, right? Well, you're really just trying to help them have better sex. So they shouldn't be judgmental. Exactly. But my stepson, you know, he was like, my mom said your podcast is disgusting. And so, you know, that's, that was fun.
But no, uh, I feel like the, he gets to see his dad and his stepmom be very supportive of one another. And it's not like we sit down together and I discussed like, you know, like the episodes in depth, you know, the, I feel like it's, I got a comment yesterday of someone like, why are you degrading yourself? You, you know, what would your children think of you? And I think of it like it's a parent's job to monitor what their children are consuming on the internet. Like if, you know what I mean? My children don't have social media.
So that's, you know, it's my job to protect him from what he's ingesting or as much as I can. Right. I can't completely protect him, but hopefully just like I looked back at my parents and admired that they were intentionally choosing to have a nice sex life that they just see me as monetizing my passion and that I wanted to help other people and that mommy didn't care what other people thought of her. Yeah. I think that's super important. I haven't really gotten pushback. Yeah. And I think I would be really mean to someone if they were to me. Good. Good.
Because I can be, I would cut them off at the knees with my mouth. That's awesome. Yeah. Because I have gotten pushback, but not to my face. And I think you'll probably, you know, like, I know they talk shit, but they don't do it to my face. Well, if they want to talk shit to us, they go make fake accounts on social media, and then they come and comment mean things, and dox our address, and do all kinds of crazy things. Girls are cunts, even when they're grown-ups and have children. I think they get worse.
Well, and they're probably not having good sex because, like, if you're having really awesome sex, you're probably not caring about someone else, what they're doing. That's my opinion. You wouldn't be triggered by that. No. If you were enjoying what's happening in your bed. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we've got about 10 minutes left, Jordan.
Is there anything else that you'd like to tell the swing nation listeners the the all the swingers out there what was there anything you'd like to relay to them um from the horny housewife i think there's a lot of no well i think there's like a huge stepping stone from horny housewife to here like if to swing nation like i do yeah if people are interested in spicing things up and maybe swinging is on the table maybe not maybe it's just something they're thinking about there's so much to learn from you before they can step into our world so i think that's important to to talk about i just think that it's cool that there's this uh like we can have these conversations and if live differently, that we like mutually respect one another and you can be curious and you can be inspired.
And I think it's super awesome that y'all have like such a healthy demonstration of what this could look like if people were interested. So I think it's cool that you had me on. I was intimidated. I was like, what do I have to offer this conversation? They're going to think I'm like a little prude vanilla girl. So I just feel honored that you even let me come on and have a conversation with y'all. Well, we appreciate you coming on. And if so, if people want to learn more about Jordan and the Horny Housewife, where can they go and find all your things?
Yeah, you can type in the Horny housewife anywhere you listen to podcasts apple podcast spotify you can follow me on instagram at underscore the horny housewife podcast and my little link you'll find all of the things i also have a patreon where i read audio erotica every wednesday which is like super excellent fore. A lot of people will say that sometimes she'll put on her little noise canceling headphones and listen to the really dirty story and he'll massage her. And I guess these are for couples who like, maybe she needs something to get turned on and she doesn't want to think about him.
She wants to think about the story.
And by the end of the the massage she's like revved up and ready to fuck yeah so it's a great tool for that and i upload every wednesday there that's awesome that sounds hot yeah very well i think women it's hard to cut off our brain sometimes so i love that idea yeah the story gets you in the mood and some people i don't know why because i'm like really nasally and people are like but people really like my voice when I read the stories so I'm like hell yeah I love it that's awesome well we appreciate you coming on uh and telling us all about you and and uh you know what you got going on and maybe we can do this again sometime like thanks for having me we'll swap and do it again in like five minutes if you're cool with that.
Yeah. She doesn't get our swinger jokes. I was like, I didn't even hear what the end you said in the last five minutes. Sorry. Oh, it's fine. Dan has been dropping swinger jokes every time we talk to her and she doesn't get them. It's cute. He's like, we're going to swap. She's like, yeah, we're going to swap. She's like, okay, yeah, that sounds great. I look forward to our swap and I'm like, yeah, she's not getting it. It's cute though. When I made a story earlier, I'm like, I'm going to do a podcast swap with another couple and I'm like, I should have said a couple, not another couple.
Now people think that I'm swapping, but yeah, that one's for the ride over. Thank you. another couple and i'm like i should have said a couple not another couple because now people think that i'm talking but yeah that one's the right over we appreciate you coming on and uh we'll we'll see you again soon and uh definitely everybody should go check out the horny housewife um podcast in jordan all right i think you're welcome you're very welcome i think with that in a world full of apples, be the pineapple, be the pineapple guys. Bye. Bye.
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