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This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle.
Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe, interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your host, Northern Guy. Southern Girl. And we're in Nashville. Yeah. We made it. We did last night. We had an amazing night. We survived. Mm-hmm. And there were some good times. Maybe we'll get into that a little bit if we have some time at the end. Okay. But today, we are joined by the rest of the Swing Nation. We have TikTok girl, Christina. Hello. SNM416. Hey, guys. Otherwise known as Malia.
And Christina is known as Christina. Crazy Christina. And I think today's episode, what we're going to do is introduce these ladies to you. Let them tell a little bit about their story. We'll ask them some of the hard-hitting questions that TikTok and the rest of the world wants to know.
And then we'll go over chemistry tonight and the plans and then uh i don't know maybe we'll maybe we'll have a little we'll talk about last night okay um that's about it right all right so with that christina why don't you lead off tell us tell us a little bit about yourself as much as you're comfortable sharing with with the world and uh we'll go from there all right so my name is Christina and I am 38 and I'm from Michigan my husband and I Mark we've been together 17 years been married for 15 years and we kind of have been in the lifestyle our whole relationship but didn't even realize it as we were having threesomes since the very beginning that's one of the things that attracted him to me is because I was very bisexual um but we didn't start in the lifestyle until like couple swapping until about two years ago so did you tell him from like dating that you were bisexual always open at the bar like so we've known each other our whole lives but we hooked up again like when we were 21, I went to the bar and he would see me making out with girls everywhere.
So how did you meet? Did I miss that? So we've known each other our whole lives. And because my brother played football with him, I actually grew up in a private school and we didn't play. We didn't have football at our school. So my brother went to the public school and played football with Mark.
And he he wanted to date me in high school but he was a goody-goody on the honor roll you know one of the good boys and I didn't like good boys I like the bad college boys so I had to turn him down quite a few times but he kept coming back yeah yeah he did so then when we were 21 you know we actually uh our relationship started in a very bad way. Obviously, you guys know I have a problem with cheating. And I was actually with my oldest daughter's father when Mark and I got together. Yeah. So we like cheated, you know, I cheated on him. He was also cheating on me too, but, you know.
So, so yeah.
And yeah and you know I've had a problem with cheating my whole life since I was in fifth grade I had four boyfriends at the same time you know like I'm just not a monogamous person but um that didn't mean that I want to be with other people the way that I want to be with my husband yeah it's different I think people have a hard time understanding that it's different yeah yeah so that's i think so for you being on tiktok i think one of the most of the criticism we see in the comments and all that stuff because of course we watch your stuff all the time is that that whole cheating piece but but i think i mean me and lacy were talking about this last night is there's probably a lot of girls out there that are in a relationship that maybe either they aren't satisfied or they're just not monogamous people, right?
And, you know, I think infidelity in marriages is pretty common in America if you look at the stats. So I think probably a lot of these people that are watching you can probably relate to that story, right? They do.
I get messages all the time of people telling me, like, they know i feel you know they've cheated men and women well i think it's hard to put yourself out there and be honest yeah you know even in the swinging community when you ask people how like how'd you get in the lifestyle very very i don't think we've heard anybody say well i cheated and then it worked out and then we're here you know usually it's, and I don't know. I mean, it's got to be more, right? There are more. It's got to be more. I just think it's, like, a little bit frowned upon. People are ashamed.
You know, they're ashamed of it. And to me, like, that's part of what made me the badass that I am today is my story and my truth. And that you own it. Right, and I don't care about anybody's judgment because all I care about is really what my husband and my children think about me. That's all I care. Yeah. And if my story touches other people, then, you know, it's all worth it. All the hate, it doesn't even bother me, the hate that I get.
So I guess my question is, do you think that swinging, I hate the word saved because I don't think that's the correct word, but I can't think of another one.
Like, do you think that you would be still together at this point had you not decided to go the swinging route so it was a little bit more acceptable to be able to be your true self right and still be married to your husband yeah I mean I do think that we would still be together we just wouldn't be happy yeah you know what I mean um which I think is what a lot of Americans do like right American like they're just unhappy exactly yeah I would just be a bitch all the time. Like, even my kids say, they're like, it's just so nice. You're not a bitch anymore, Mom. Like, you're so nice now.
Because we do have two kids, 15 and 17. They do know that we're swingers. They're totally fine with it. We don't put it in our kids' life. We don't bring any swinging, anything to our home.
We don't talk about it in front of our kids unless of course they ask so how did they find out were you just honest with them um no so actually we hid it from that we've been hiding it from them and that's so mark and i have talked about swinging for like 10 years since like 2011 2012 um but we didn't because they were small and it was just a long story but um so we did hide it from them for two years and then sorry uh one day I was on snapchat because as you know we all have snapchats and we like to educate people and Mark would always tell me to go outside and do my snapchat so the kids didn't hear me and um well I didn't listen and so I was talking about swinging and my daughter comes downstairs and she was like, oh, after I got off Snapchat, she's well, I didn't listen, and so I was talking about swinging, and my daughter comes downstairs, and she was like, oh, after I got off Snapchat, she's like, oh, now I know why there's pineapple stuff all over our house.
She's like, it all makes sense now, and she's like, that's okay, mom, like, and her dad is polyamorous, so, yeah, so my oldest daughter's father, um, he is in a poly relationship and he's bisexual and uh so he has a boyfriend his wife has a boyfriend and they all live together that's really cool so she's really surrounded with open sexual people yeah she is and she lives with me full-time so she doesn't live with him yeah but yeah so she was fine with it and so then my other daughter who's 15 we were like we didn't want her to know i didn't even want mark to know that my daughter found out about I don to know.
I didn't even want Mark to know that my daughter found out about. So we hid it from him. I was like, don't tell Mark. So then when I was telling them about how the reality show is coming to film us and my youngest, we were all sitting at the dinner table. My youngest said, we're still we're recovering.
I just had COVID like a month ago so my throat is still messed up yeah so um my my youngest said why is a reality show coming and my oldest said because they're swingers duh and my daughter our daughter's jaw like dropped her eyes went wide open so she knew what a swinger was yeah well we said do you know what that is and she's like obviously she knows she was googling yeah and then I was like do you have any questions about it and she was just like no and she's never asked another question um but she did say when we got covid um when we went to Louisville with Malia and Sean like six weeks ago, she's like, you guys, because our whole family got COVID.
She's like, you got us COVID because you go to those swinging things. And I'm like, actually, it's not from a swinging thing, surprisingly. But, yeah. So how did you transition? So I guess we talked about you cheating and having problems with monogamy. i guess at some point you realize I'm just not a, you know, it's not that I'm not happy in my marriage. I'm just not a monogamous person. Right. So how did you approach that to Mark and get him on board?
So, I mean, we started talking about it when I was cheating back in 2011, 2012, um, just about how, cause he was scared that like I was going to fall like in love with somebody else and I explained to him like it has nothing to do with that um and I told him back then I would like to uh have a hall pass like have us have hall passes and stuff um and then we started talking about swinging for like literally 10 years um and we were having threesomes and finally one day i i just said to him basically like you know how you want to have sex with other women in our threesomes you know what i mean why don't you think that maybe i would want to do that with a man like of course i'm very attracted to women but i'm bisexual i'm just as attracted to men as i am women yeah and that's when finally he was like, you know, you're right.
You're totally right. And we've been talking about it all this time. Let's really start researching this. So then we started reading books. And, you know, I asked him, can I be 100% open and honest with you? Like about my needs, my wants. Yeah. And he said yes. And from then it's just been amazing. That's awesome.
So that's what you said about two years ago yeah you guys got in the lifestyle yeah and then so as far as lifestyle goes what are your guys like rules limits yeah soft full and you don't have to be tiktok pg just oh okay you can say all the words say all the words oh okay vagina pussy ass all the words it's kind of liberating it is it's nice like i just want to say i'm over and over yeah dp yeah yeah um okay so our number one rule is communication always with each other yeah um obviously i think every that's every swinger's rule um and then as far as like full swap we prefer full swap we don't like soft swap.
I mean, we fuck each other all the time, so we're not in this to, like – I mean, yes, of course, we want to fuck each other, too. But I don't – we've hooked – our first couple was actually a soft swap when they told us they were full swap and then happened to be soft swap, and we were like, what the fuck are we doing here? Like, I'm sorry.
I don't want to just make out with my husband next to you and your husband making out like i don't know it's just not our thing but um but yeah um so then let's see so soft swap you do same room or separate room yeah so we prefer same room um we have done separate room and we've had separate occasions as well without married couples so we also have entertained side pieces before I call them side pieces no I like that that's your term yeah yeah we we have done that um and the only reason really that we've done that is just because as you guys all know it's so hard to find a couple it's very hard everybody yeah connects and if you're a swinger at all, you understand that.
Exactly. Exactly. And especially like during COVID and stuff when everything was like shut down basically. And, um, you know, we were just getting into the lifestyle. We were so like, you know, like full force, like couldn't wait to go fuck other people, you know? And then when you can't find it, but you can find side pieces, but we've we've had you know some not so great issues with those. So did it ever bother you when like Mark would go with his side piece and you were at home? Did you ever struggle with that or were you just completely cool with it?
No I mean there was a time that we did struggle but then that's when we like did create these rules and boundaries but then as we went through this whole side piece thing, the rules and boundaries changed. Oh, yeah. So, like, at first it was like we would only go out with our side piece if I was with my side piece and he was with his side piece at the same time. Yeah, I agree. If you're going to do it, that's probably the best. And that's how it started. And that was easier for us. Because you're occupied. You're not sitting there, like, twiddling your thumb, chickens, and feathers.
But then it got to a point where one of the side pieces that I had, he was a very busy person, and we just couldn't match our schedules with his side piece. We just couldn't do it. So then we did have to have different separate times, and that was difficult. So that's why we don't really prefer to do that. That's just like a desperation thing when there's a couple shortage and we need some ass, you know? Yeah. So, um, and we have a lot more rules and boundaries with, uh, side pieces than we do with couples. With couples, we don't really have a lot minus like right at first.
So right at first, you know, we start in the group group then we are open to separate texting we actually like separate texting um i know a lot of couples don't as a unicorn i love separate texting me too because like i really wanted to be flirty and stuff and sometimes it's hard to do that when all eyes are watching exactly but now as a married woman i guess i'm more concerned not so much with me flirting with someone else flirting with him right but I get that I get that yeah that it's fun it's almost feels a little naughty even though that you're not and let's be honest that's what swinging that's like the best part you're doing something that you're not supposed to do so it's like hot and so I get I totally get that about the communication yeah yeah we love we love the separate texting um but you know like but i think this is awesome it's different swingers we're all different we can all get along we can all play we can all respect each other's boundaries and be completely different yeah exactly so i guess my only question with the side piece thing have you guys ever encountered where like i would imagine it's much easier for you to find oh much a side piece guys yes so we have little slimmer pickings out there much i would imagine so have you ever had problems with that yes yeah we've had issues where like i'll have like three and just because i'm talking to like three different guys does not mean i'm having sex with all of them but like i like, I'm trying to pick which one I want to, you know, have sex with because there's a whole process.
Same as, like, dating as a single person. Exactly. And I'll have, like, three different ones and he can't get one. And he's like, God, you just have men coming out of fucking everywhere. Well, that's what Dan says all the time. He's like, all you have to do is post one picture and they're coming. He's like, I have to, like, work at it. Yeah. Like, I've got to communicate. I've got to text. Exactly. It's like a buildup. And I'll have to tell Mark. I'm like, you need to flirt more. You need to be, like, more into these women if you want them to be into you. Like, go flirt with them.
Go be that naughty guy. But he is such a good boy that sometimes it's hard for him to. I think that's sweet. Yeah. Yeah, I'd rather it be that way than you being like, babe, you need to reel it in. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I'm always telling him, go, be more, like, flirtatious. Yeah. It turns me on, too. So, then, okay, so once you get into swinging a journey, so, like, Lacey doesn't, you know, usually doesn't do anal with other guys. Right. Do you guys have rules like that? Those are not really rules for me. They're more of, like, things that I don't want sexually. Right.
You know, like if know like if i'm gonna do anal i'm gonna do it with you because i know you really enjoy that and if i'm gonna do it i'm gonna give it to you not right right random yeah right yeah you guys have any specific rules like that we really don't we're very very open sexually now as far as anal goes like anal is difficult for me at times so like i've only done it i think maybe with them and one other couple well you were with us with them you were in my ass yeah i'm open to it like we're open to it it's just with us it's like whatever like in the moment if i had if i had enough to drink oh yeah if i'm tipsy i mean you're more likely to go in there and I think we've thought that's usually not like the first time you hang out or have sex with a couple yeah oh let's do DP yeah I feel like with us all we uh we know each other we've had a lot of build-up I think to to meet each other.
Yeah, probably. Right. I feel like with us all, we know each other. We had a lot of build-up, I think, to meeting each other. Yeah. Okay. Anything else for Christina? Malia, you got any Christina questions? I don't have any Christina questions. No. No. I think that's the biggest thing. I will say, so as far as TikTok goes. Yeah, I was about to say, we want to talk about TikTok, like what made you get on TikTok and like how you went from like there to here. Yeah. So I started TikTok. We're all struggling, y'all. We stayed up to 4 a.m. I had dicks in my throat all night long. It's not even noon.
I'm sorry. I like it though. I like to be throat fucked. Anyways. Yeah.
So I started TikTok in November of of 2020 i just had acl surgery i was laid up on the couch for weeks i deleted all my social media just because of the whole election i just couldn't handle watching the news watching facebook with all the bullshit going on in the in the world so i discovered tiktok so i start watching tiktok and i'm like i need to make some fucking tiktok yeah so i started making them and but not swinging at first no not swinging stuff because back then nobody knew except for like people that we swing with or like my brother and my mom um but so i started making like bad mom ones that's how i started, i'm not a bad mom but i would see other people making bad mom ones and they would go viral so i was like okay so i started going a little bit viral then i started seeing people making them about cheating and i was like i have tons of experience with this like i mean lots of stories so then i just started putting my own real lifelife cheating stories in TikToks.
And, I mean, they just made me go viral because of all the hate or because of people related. And then it was in, like, January when I started seeing the swing talk. Like, not swing talk because it wasn't even swing talk back then. It was just, like, random people posting swinger stuff.
And I just started talking to him, and I and I was like you know I'm sick of living under a rock yeah I'm sick of not being able to be myself we didn't move away from all of our family all of our friends to not be able to be ourselves and these other girls are doing it and I'm gonna do it and so I just started doing it and and that's when I kind of blew up I guess and actually I started, I started OnlyFans before then. I started OnlyFans in February. And then I started posting Swinger Talk, I think, in like the end of March or April. So Christina gets banned quite often, like me.
So what account are you on now? So I'm on, it says 5.0, but I'm really been banned 15 or 16 times permanently. Yeah. It's just insane. It's really insane. It is insane. It's very frustrating. It is. And like my first TikTok that got banned, like, and that was before I even started posting Swinger stuff. So, and I understand why my first one got banned because I was being a little bit ridiculous with the OnlyFans stuff. Like, I was putting it out there. I had links in my bio. Yeah. I get it. It's a learning curve.
Like our first take talk i was like literally in lingerie on there right and we were like why are we getting flagged because all these other girls were doing it but now we're like oh we get it you just can't do that right you can't especially with any kind of sexual um there's a lot of nuances to it and you can read through the community guidelines a lot of things you know the rules but there's still there's so much gray area it really seems like sometimes it depends on who reviews your video or your size like if you're a voluptuous woman and you put something on you're gonna get like i don't have to judge taken down much quicker than a video gets scrutinized differently very thin definitely yeah yeah.
Definitely. Yeah. So you, I think we touched on a little bit. So you started Tik TOK and then that led you to OnlyFans? Is that? Yeah. So I started, I didn't even know about OnlyFans. Um, and I started Tik TOK and everybody kept saying, cause I would do the cheating videos acting like a little hoe and everybody's like, do you have an OnlyFans? Do you have an OnlyFans? And I thought OnlyFans was through TikTok. That's how naive I was. And then I was like, wait, what's OnlyFans? And so then I found out what OnlyFans was.
And I told my husband, I'm like, you know, basically you guys know as being swingers, you're basically sending porn to other people anyway. So why not do it online?
So we first were just going to do lingerie and titties that's what we all say we weren't going to do exactly i'll start we weren't going to do the full-on porn um and then you know one thing led to another and now you know now i am where i am yeah well that's awesome yeah uh so i think the only thing i other thing i talk about so you have snapchat tick-tock only fans work I think multiple full-time jobs at least multiple yeah just how how does that affect your life and just talk about how how much work that oh it's so much work I think people get don't I mean he told i look tired on a tick tock live last week and i was like well you i've worked like 20 hours yesterday i'm exhausted i need some concealer yeah i mean like literally i might be sitting in my bed but i am working exactly same with me like the second i wake up in the morning i grab my phone go to snapchat and i don't put it down until sometimes 3 a.m yeah and that's on top of you know working taking care of your kids cooking cleaning you know yeah i mean the money's great but it's you definitely have to be a motivated oh yeah person 100 to be able to i mean like short term yeah you could handle this for a week or two or a month but long term-term, it's a lot.
It is. It's like two full-time jobs. Oh, yeah, if not more. Yeah, especially if you have to start 14 TikTok accounts. Oh, yeah, I mean, that gets exhausting. It really does. And grow them each to over 100,000 followers. Yeah. You could give a lesson on TikTok. Christina is the follower girl. She can get some followers quick. Yeah. She's about to get me a lesson. I am. And if you need a lesson, you can get on our Discord server and sign up. She will teach you the ways. VIP, and if you are thinking about doing this and want just some insider advice, hit her up. She'll help you out.
She's helped me tremendously.
She's kind of like the the mother of all of us even though you're only like a year older than me but you definitely have shown the ways especially like with snapchat and stuff like that you've definitely taught me a lot and to be also more assertive with these crazy ass men yeah so i thank you for that it's been yeah she's been really great about helping kind of pave the way for us yeah and I mean I've been in marketing my whole life being a hairdresser you you have to market yourself so it's just a different kind of marketing yeah well like when you first told us about Snapchat I was like oh my god that's whatever we can't do that's too much you know but honestly like we make just as much on Snapchat that we make on OnlyFans we make more yeah I Yeah, I mean, it's very similar.
I don't know the exact numbers, but it's very similar. Like I'm so happy we did that. Yeah, it's definitely another avenue. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So what else, Christina? Anything else you want to put out to the world? So I do want to say one more rule. I forgot. That's a very important rule for us, for side pieces and for couples, is that, you know, people are always asking, like on our TikTok lives, how do you guys not fall in love? Aren't you scared that your husband's going to fall in love with someone else or this and that? Whatever.
No, because we have these rules and boundaries set where we're not going to put ourselves in situations to where we would get those feelings. Like we never sleep with another couple overnight. Yeah.
You know, even side even side pieces right like um we have had a couple one time that wanted to go to Mexico with us and um they talked about us swapping spouses for the whole night like staying in the room together him going in her room me in his room all night and it's like at the time I thought maybe we would do it but obviously now we've learned we would never do that yeah um it just opens yourself up to unnecessary drama confusion right you know jealousy i get it right and the cuddling that's just something that like should be just with us yeah i agree yeah um i mean cuddling after sex for, that's fun.
Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, all night long. Yeah. Anything else? Anything else you want to say while you have the microphone, Christina? You can talk freely and openly and uncensored. Can I get DB tonight? Maybe. Y'all can, not me. I think I need it. Yeah. I think you do. right so we'll move on speaking of DP we'll move on go to my snapchat to see Malia we'll move on to Malia so Malia I guess we kind of the same thing let's just start with introductions tell us as much as you're comfortable about you and yourself and I guess what got you here. So I'm Malia. I'm 29. She's the baby.
I'm the baby. My husband Sean and I have been together for almost six years, married for almost five. We have a blended family.
We do not have children together so we have a unique situation that has allowed us some freedom in swinging so that's the best like people that are like on like y'all or you just have kids together it's so nice to like have every other weekend or time away so you can do stuff we have yeah children free weekends so that makes it easier um i guess where we started um we met on tinder so um sean was back home he was in the military he's a retired veteran um and he had changed his location on tinder for um just a hookup and we matched and ended up talking all night on a FaceTime call, um, and just knew from that point that it was not a booty call.
It was going to be much more than that.
Um, we had both just gotten out of our previous marriages where we had been cheated on um so I knew he was a swinger like in that first conversation we talked about um that his ex-wife and he had been in the lifestyle and I was like yeah no that's not something like I just got cheated on and you that's not gonna be a good idea for me so he told you right out the gate yeah it was something that he was very open about and I was like I'm not into that and he's like yeah I'm not really in a space to be into that either um it was used in his previous marriage as um like a way to maybe fix their marriage because because she was cheating um it did not work it made it worse for them but neither one of us at that time were in a place to to be swingers yeah um so we were monogamous for the first three years for the first four years of our relationship and the first three years of our marriage.
And our sex life just had gotten really spicy. He had gotten out of the military right when we first got married and kind of went through some personal struggles where he dealt with depression and things like that so our marriage our first year of marriage was a rough one but we made it and then after that we started just building our relationship more and getting more connected and through that our sex life started to really spice up we Um, we started getting into some BDSM kink stuff. Um, and one night after we had had sex, we were just talking.
He was like, what would you think to maybe add to this kind of spiciness we're getting into, um, doing that with another couple. And I like you know I might be into that like that that kind of sounds hot now yeah it didn't at first it sounded very scary and um but now it kind of sounds hot and interesting like let's let's talk about that yeah so we did our story is kind of similar to you guys where like we we talked about it and you guys met in the lifestyle but um Thank you.
story is kind of similar to you guys where like we we talked about it and you guys met in the lifestyle but um like pillow talk yeah yeah um so that's that's where we started and we're i guess still we've only been in the lifestyle a year so i kind of still feel like we're newbies but yeah because you're going to chemistry you're not in your second club this is only our second club yeah Thank you.
lifestyle a year so i kind of still feel like we're newbies but yeah because you're going to chemistry you're not in your second club this is only our second club yeah our first we'll break you in girl just show you the way yeah our first club was in san francisco we went to a club called twist and it was a lot of fun we love the club scene like so much better than any other it's just like it just fits us the club's hotel takeover yeah so that's another thing like when we first started so he had an sls he had a lifetime membership that he deactivated um after his marriage ended previously and so i mean he just logged back in changed everything i mean we went to 60.
Yeah. Like very, very quickly. We, I was like, you know, I can never say never. I've never tried that. So let's try and maybe I'll like it. So yeah, we had the conversation that night after we had sex, maybe we'll try it next day. Our profile was active and we had started getting messages and being in our profile.
said that he was previously in the lifestyle but that I was new and I think that attracted a lot of people to us because we got a very overwhelming response yeah and I got I panicked did you I did I was like this is too much there are too many people messaging us like I I don't know that yeah it overwhelming. I was like, this is too much. There are too many people messaging us. Like, I don't know that this is going to be. It can be overwhelming, for sure. I was very overwhelmed because, like, I was like, how do you pick? Like, there's so many couples. They want to go out on dates with us.
Like, we only have every other weekend. Yeah, yeah. And I still want to have a relationship with you where we go out on dates. Like, I don't want to just.
There's so many swingers out here that hate her right now oh you poor thing you had too many couples wanting to fuck you how did you handle yourself i hear you guys rolling your eyes so i but to be honest a brand new person in life so even five messages could be overwhelming i don't know how many you got but i can totally see yeah and to that point i i think you know these people that are on sls even even us when that new couple pops in your area you know if you've monitored your sls you see it like you're like oh oh oh oh you know because you kind of get used to seeing the same faces so i think it's probably some of that right it's like oh a new kid yeah let's hit him up let's get let's get on that list first yeah so in getting all those messages i had seen um a hotel takeover that was about an hour and a half away from us and i just messaged sean one day and i was like going out or trying to pick a couple to go out on a date with for our first experience is starting to overwhelm me yeah and i'm getting really really nervous so why don't we go to this hotel takeover he's like that's how you want to do the first time i was like i'm either gonna love it or i'm gonna hate it and.
And I know for myself, there's going to be no in between. Yeah. It's going to be really, really good or it's going to be really, really bad. Yeah. So, yeah, I think I just want to jump in and see how I feel and go from there. And he was like, okay. So I signed up for the hotel takeover and it was on Valentine's Day.
so we um we went out to you know a nice romantic dinner just the two of us to try and you know make it special and then we went to good touch yeah we went to the hotel takeover he took me to my favorite restaurant yeah it's like um in a house in our town and it's like very fancy so um yeah then we went to the hotel takeover and I got very overwhelmed again because we walk in and you know we're just all these couples are like pairing up and I'm just like walking through the halls can be very clicky yeah I'm walking through the halls and I'm like how are we gonna like are people gonna notice us like are people gonna start talking to us i'm contrary to i guess popular belief because i'm on tiktok like i'm very um introverted and not very loud and i'm that way if i don't know anybody like dan always is like who the hell are you because i'm yeah same yeah so the thought of like having to just go up to a bunch of people and be like, hey, I'm Aaliyah, and I want to fuck you.
Like that was not something. I've always been super grateful for Dan because that is his personality, and it kind of forced me to kind of be a little bit more that way. So I'm very grateful for that dynamic between the two of us.
we walked around the hotel takeover and we found a couple we still actually talked to them I was just texting with her like yesterday um but we started talking to them and then started talking to another couple and there I think were four couples that we kind of linked up with um like I'd said previously, like our sex life had kind of gotten a little spicier in the terms of kink and like some restraints and BDSM whips and chains and all that. Speaking of dancing. All that kind of stuff. So we had brought some toys with us. And we had a Neuro wand.
I don't know if you guys have seen that it's an electro wand i have it with me can we try this out i brought every toy that we own yeah and straps and restraints anyways but we had that with us and they were intrigued and kind of wanted to learn about this neuro wand so we went back to our room all four couples all all four couples go big or go home i did were you so proud john he's sitting over there yeah yeah he's shaking his head so we go back to our room i mean first swinging experience we're in our own hotel room never would have imagined that this was how this night would go, but it did.
So we're playing with toys and stuff. And Sean goes into the bathroom to, like, we were all just, no one had kissed. Like, nothing had happened between any couples at all.
Sean goes into the bathroom to brush his teeth, and, like, these me so i was gonna ask you that question um had you been interested in women had you ever been with a women prior to joining the lifestyle so this kind of goes backstory and dan when we were talking a few weeks ago was like what's your what's your thing like what's your profile i was like i i'm a catholic school girl yeah he's like what i was like i went to catholic school oh so were you naughty at this catholic school girl not not at the not i like to envision that i like to envision you literally in your uniform you know fingering the um the girl next to you.
I'm sorry. I thought you were in my. No, not while I was in Catholic school, but as soon as I got out. And I think the Catholic school I went to was kindergarten through eighth grade. And the high school was right across the street.
And everyone at the high school knew that, like, these Catholic school girls that, like, crossed over to the public school were naughty yeah they're all freaks they're all freaks so like that was already pre-established i guess in my mind that like they they all assumed i was naughty so i should probably just be naughty right you don't want to disappoint them right um so So that just kind of goes back to that. So I wasn't interested in women that I was very vocal about, but I, in high school, I did have some encounters where like I kissed a girl and I liked it, you know, typical Katie.
Is that Katy Perry? Yeah. Yeah. So there was that, but I never had anything more than like just making out with a girl prior to the hotel takeover. Yes, go back to the hotel takeover. So they start kissing and that was really your only other experience as a girl. Yeah, that was my really first experience.
and so sean's in the bathroom brushing his teeth and he pops his head out still brushing his teeth and he's like oh fuck yeah i better like yeah wrap this up like brush my teeth really fast i'm a little confused by the there's four couples in a room and sean goes and brushes his teeth like good hygiene yeah he smokes all right He's a smoker, and so he was getting ready.
He's washing his hands, he pops his head out and he's like oh fuck i better finish up like things are starting to heat up and i just remember like my head was kind of laying off the bed a little bit and these women are just all over me my nipples my pussy kissing me and he just comes and stands over me he's like by the way you're bi yeah your pussy is really wet right now yeah yeah um so that was my first experience just big hotel takeover orgy i was about to say so all did all four couples participate all four couples participated and yeah now before you went to the hotel takeover was there any talk about what our limits are going to be what we're comfortable with or you just kind of went it was kind of like i said i knew I needed to go big or go home.
I was going to love it or I was going to hate it. So he had been in the lifestyle. He kind of knew what his comfortable, like where he was comfortable at. So it was kind of like, we're going to go at your speed.
Whatever you're comfortable with, like I'm just going to watch you and I'll follow your husband's take note.'s the way it should be one of the one of the biggest things at this hotel takeover that really like because of course first experience like in the back of my mind i'm like oh my god he's he's gonna fall in love with these other women yeah yeah like it was i was having relatable i was having so much fun and I was really enjoying it and it was hot and sexy but like there was still that little you know voice in the back of my head like oh my god he's gonna love these women more than he loves me and he's just gonna be gone and we had been monogamous for so long our marriage was so strong and I and I didn't want to lose that.
He's my best friend. But in the middle of all of us having this big group orgy, he, like, stops fucking one of these other women and comes up to me and the guy that I was with, and he was like, can I have my wife back?
That's the best like that gave me goosebumps because it's really the best it did it really like solidified in my mind like okay this this is okay i can like this and enjoy this and still have my best that right there goes so far i mean it really really does yeah um so that was our first experience that was my first experience sean's packing himself on the back he he does really well um and i mean still even to this day we kind of go at you know what i'm comfortable with because he's definitely that's something we've talked about before is you know you really there's no negotiation there right it's whoever's the least comfortable you have to play down yeah and we talked to you know couples about that they're like how do i get started what i do and it's like you have to follow the one that's the most timid you just do absolutely yeah absolutely that's awesome all right so then uh i guess tiktok how the hell did you end up on tiktck with 200 000 followers or whatever yeah i'm almost there i'm almost to 200 000 i'm trying to be a good girl i'm you haven't got deleted yet knock on wood yeah not yeah no no make sure it's still there i'm the um good girl of the bunch and i try to post it likes to just I mean I guess more of a little bit of a backstory so when I was in high school and like learning that I was kind of into this stuff but going to Catholic school and being being raised i guess more conservative and being told that like stuff like that was wrong yeah um i had a boyfriend that cheated on me in high school and his best friends were obsessed with me i just fucked him all after he cheated after he cheated on me and like they'd they'd have parties and they'd be like come to this party I'm like well he's gonna be there he doesn't and they're like I don't care just fuck me in front of him I'm like okay like that sounds great like so I guess like it wasn't that like I was completely just a really good girl it was just like yeah I hit it Um, so Tik TOK, I i was on tiktok i had made a few just like like christina you know during covid i think that's when tiktok really blew up people were at home and bored so i would scroll through tiktok and i'd make you know the like trendy thing or whatever.
Yeah. So one of the trendy videos that popped up was like a kink version of the like put a finger down challenge. And so I was in my bikini top like and I did that one. It was like put a finger down if you like getting fucked in the ass. And I was like, that's me. put a finger down if you like getting fucked in the ass and i was like that's me put a finger down if you like this if you like that and it blew up and i was like oh my god like a lot of people saw that video um i think that one had like a million views and i was like a million people saw me talking about getting fucked in the house.
And we were swinging at that point. And for me, I was at the happiest I had ever been in my life. Like, being really true to myself and doing these things that I had suppressed for so long, I was just really happy. And I hated not being able to share that with other people yeah we can highlight I had seen a few swing talk or swinger videos and I talked to Sean I was like what do you think if we did if I did this yeah like if I started making TikToks that are about swinging and of course hard conversations about, you know, well, people are going to see that.
And how do you feel if your family sees that? How do you feel, you know, we talked about that stuff really in depth. And, you know, you have to kind of prepare yourself to lose people because people are going to see it and they're not going to agree with it and they're not going to talk to you anymore. And I was fine with that because I was so happy that I didn't want to go back.
I didn't want to go back to not being my true self and living my truth and being genuinely happy in my life that it didn't matter if I was going to lose people because I didn't need them in my life if they weren't going to support me so i started making swing talk videos and the rest is history the rest is history i met you guys and here we are here oh sean's helping out here yeah so then i got you know i have an only fans too so so, so you made the TikTok and then you started. So my TikTok started to blow up and that's when we kind of talked about like, Hey, we're getting lots of followers.
Kind of like Christina, I was getting asked, like, do you have an OnlyFans? And I was like, well, I guess, why not? You want to pay me? Sure. Like I could go get my nails done. Yeah.
Um, so yeah yeah I got a thousand followers and we're like okay and then it blew up yeah we all keep on keeping on like just yeah I never am I and still even to this day like I have videos that blow up and I'm like people are watching like well it's never the ones you think it's never is and to be honest we are all pretty your average normal everyday girls like we're not like a supermodel we're not you know basic white girls yeah but it yes but that just shows you that like people connect with you yeah you don't have to be stick thin and you know perfect and as long as you're relatable and people like kind of get your story they'll follow yeah yeah uh so i think the only other thing you kind of hit it on a little bit is let's talk a little bit about any fallout that you've received since and i think that what we can kind of go around the horn on that one.
Can I ask one question, and then we'll end with your question? I was just curious. You mentioned BDSM. Did you ever do that prior to Sean, or is that something that he introduced you to? I did a little bit. I always liked getting spanked. Yeah. Don't we all? Yeah.
But, no, it was i don't i personally always wondered that question so i knew i wanted to ask you one here yeah no it was really with him that i really allowed myself to and like i said just because we had been through so much at the beginning of our relationship our my trust with him was something i had never experienced with another man to to the level that we were at so i trusted him completely to whereas before like in my previous marriage and relationships i didn't have that level of trust to be able to be like tie me down and you know we're reading notes here yeah sean is passing yeah i was he said i was reserved about showing that side of myself to anyone really um well i think as women we are taught to suppress these feelings it is so it's hard to get them out i mean it really is i know once the door's open that shit's out you know you can't put that back in the room but i can totally relate to that absolutely oh yeah sean so you can't hear sean but he did say that he was also reserved about showing that side of himself to her yeah i think with all this stuff right the swinging you know to get to this level of sexual intimacy you really have to be vulnerable with your partner and honest about your desires and your wants and there's always that fear that your partner is going to judge you yeah i've never been in a relationship where i could openly say i want to do this and i'm not worried about him like leaving me or judging me or making me feel less than it's extremely liberating so women i will say out there that if you're not in a relationship like this i highly suggest that you strive for that yeah even with your current person i mean like there's ways you can knock yeah you can knock those walls down but we talk all the time about communication and like people ask what what would you recommend what would you recommend you have to communicate you have to have really hard conversations to be successful in this lifestyle you have to you know be very vulnerable and saying like hey like I don't like this yeah hey my fantasy is I want all my holes filled up at one time like yeah that's a very vulnerable place to be in to tell someone that yeah because he could have flipped that around and says my dick's not good enough right so what you keep one dick's not good enough now you have to have fucking three right I mean he could totally turn that around on you but like for him to be comfortable enough as your husband as a man as the provider of your family to be like yeah baby let's get that for you yeah that is so amazing it really is and I think it just for me It makes me love my husband more because he's like hell yeah babe we're doing this yeah let's make this happen it's just i think men if you stop and listen to your women and what they're you know if you give them an opportunity to tell i think it it really will liberate the whole situation yeah you'll be we'll be rewarded yes all right okay so now sorry i just wanted to ask yeah we're getting a little short on time we got like 10 minutes let's just go and fallouts from tiktok and all this fallouts from tiktok so um my my our whole family knows yeah everyone knows um minus our children um you guys talked about like your kids know our children are still younger um not to say when they're age appropriate we won't tell them because we will um we want to raise our children to be very open-minded people to love everyone respect their decisions um so it's a conversation we will have they're just not old enough right now um but my family found out and to the extent of some of them subscribed to my OnlyFans.
Didn't they do an intervention? Yeah. Yeah. That's really crazy. And didn't even let Sean come in the house. Oh. Like, did they feel, because I feel like, I felt like people thought that, like, Dan was making me do this. Is that what they felt like for you, too? Yeah, it was very much, they hadn't ever seen this side of me because, obviously, you don't share it. But they thought that he was making me. I think that's the initial knee-jerk reaction is that their daughter can't be this, you know. You're innocent and sweet. So it's got to be the man. You have this new man in your life.
It has to be him. I can relate to that very much. that it has to be him he has to be the one making you and it's very much quite the opposite no actually like this is just who i am so you were just like super transparent and just laid it out there and was like no this is what i want to do they very much like during the intervention um wanted to, like, they were like, you're okay with this? Yeah, I am. And they're like, you're not. I'm like, I'm not going to change. Yeah. I'm proud of you. I was very calm. That must have been such an intense situation. But I was like, this is who I am. I don't.
Sean's passing notes. We should have just gave, damn, Sean, you need a mic. He can't sit over there and be quiet. Yeah. I mean, it is hard because it's our story. Absolutely. We're, we're in this together. It's not just one, one person. Well, and you're taught to be shameful of this lifestyle. And once you finally like say, fuck all y'all, I'm going to be my true authentic self.
and then you're getting judged and then try to be shameful of this lifestyle and once you finally like say fuck all y'all I'm going to be my true authentic self and then you're getting judged and then try to made to feel shame about being you know it's a weird back and forth dynamic so anybody that's not out of the closet so to speak when it comes to swinging just know it is very liberating it is hard I don't know that I'd go back i know yeah i wouldn't go back either and it's not so we say fallout my family knows um it was hard um they all have their opinions some of them are very open and you know see that we're genuinely happy and are accepting of that my friends are accepting of that um but some of them just aren't gonna be as close anymore and that's okay yeah i would rather somebody be my friend for my true self than or a fake identity right yeah yeah so christina what about yeah so uh we definitely had a fallout with everybody obviously they all found out through tiktok i had told my mom and my brother before tiktok um they're the only ones that really accept it even though my brother doesn't agree with it he accepts your mom is so cute my mom my mom i picked her up from the airport i'll show you i picked her up from the airport she's like i've been in the swinging lifestyle since the 70s so then she's telling me all of her experiences because she's going to be on this reality show with us.
But anyways, yeah, so our friends of 25 years literally, like, disowned us and stopped being friends with us. And what the fucked up thing is, is that when I was cheating on Mark, they all knew it. And I was the fucking, you know, life of the party. They loved me. Yeah, that's okay.
Oh, let's hear about your cheating story but doing it together is not and they would even bring the guys that i cheated on him with they would invite these guys to the parties that we would all go to they're not your real friends no but then when i became a swinger now all of a sudden i don't get invited to the bachelorette party i don't get invited to this so i was just basically like fuck all of you yeah go fucking sit on it and spin i mean that's why i love you can't see her but she's fucking middle finger everywhere. Right, and I didn't used to be this way, you guys.
Like, I was raised in a very conservative my dad like got all the judges elected in our town got all the Republican state representatives elected so I had to be like this fake person my whole life I was a business owner in a small town so I was always like so perfect and so like you know sweet I wouldn't even drink tequila in the town I was from um so so when I came out of the closet as a swinger I just said I'm not living like this anymore I am going to be myself I'm going to be who I am if I'm too much for people then I'm too much I don't give a fuck anymore um but yeah TikTok definitely with Mark's family, they have judged us so much.
They don't even talk to us about it. And it's the opposite for us. Like with you guys, you know, everybody thinks that your husband's, it was their idea. They think it's you. Oh, Christina wants to get him to swing because she can't stop cheating on him and this and that. But yet when I was cheating, it was okay. Yeah, it's that double standard really irks me. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. So, yeah. All right. That's awesome. Well, I think we could go. We'll be right back. Yet when I was cheating, it was okay. Yeah, that double standard really irks me. It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. So, yeah.
All right. That's awesome. Well, I think we could go. We probably could go on for hours. Yeah, we could. Yeah. So tonight, we're all in Nashville. We had an amazing Friday night. We weren't going to go on Broadway, but our place that we're staying is, like, literally on Broadway, basically. Yeah.
yeah so we had to we were very responsible and only went out for like an hour but we came back and made some amazing um content so if you are an only fan subscriber or a premium snapchat subscriber um you've probably already seen some of it but there's gonna be lots of hot stuff coming lots of hot stuff. So you're going to want to go to... Malia got DP'd. I got all the holes filled out. It was hot. It was so hot. It was so hot. Christina's not going to have so many shots tonight, so she won't be so white girl-y. There's one in every bunch. I'm sure it's me or Malia's night tonight.
So with that, I think we don't have time to get into the details of all of that, but definitely go to theswingnation.net follow all the girls, get on their OnlyFans, get on their Snapchat premiums and you'll see all the crazy things that happened last night and then tonight.
I'd say Cam the Chemistry if you're in Nashville but you're not going to hear this till next so we will be at club chemistry here in nashville so um the next podcast should be us reviewing that club so stay tuned for that we're pretty excited right hopefully we'll see some of you out there tonight well and with that i appreciate you guys coming on and doing the podcast and sharing being vulnerable and sharing your story i think it's it's important to get this message out right i think swingers are very closeted.
Um, you know, this is definitely still an underground lifestyle, but I think there's, there's a nation of swingers out there that are wanting to share their story that are, you know, wanting to be more open and more honest about, um, the type of relationship they are in.
I think, you know, consensual non-monogamy is an actual lifestyle that people can live and be happy and thrive in that and have loving relationships that are just as you know valuable as any monogamous relationship so agreed we're all more in love than monogamous people yeah right i honestly feel that way right so i think you know we're going to continue to share our message uh we've kind of formed a little team here of people with a similar message and people that have influence on social media and are putting that word out there so I thank you all for joining us we want to thank you guys thanks for having us this has been awesome and we'll continue to do this this is not going to be our last podcast with this group.
Absolutely not. We wanted to record more, but we have been a little busy. We also want to drink and have sex and do all the other stuff too. I'm so sorry. I mean, this is, you know. Yeah, be tied up in spank. Yeah. So I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be a pineapple. Be the pineapple guys. Bye. Thank you. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes.
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