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Speaker1: This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us, and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. welcome to the swing nation podcast a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to Speaker2: educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe, interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. Hey there, Pineapple people. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast. We are your hosts, Northern Guy. Southern Girl. Today's episode, we're going to talk a little bit about beginning. Speaker3: Yeah. Speaker2: How to get in the lifestyle, a little beginner's advice. Speaker1: Yeah, we get a lot of people messaging us about where to start, where to begin. And so we wanted to record this podcast to kind of point people in the right direction. Right. And again, not professionals, right? No, not at all. This is two people that have made a few mistakes and learned along the way. Right. We're going to, we're going to share, share that with you. But, uh, I think, yeah, the idea of this is you can learn from our mistakes. So you don't, you don't hit some of those roadblocks, right? Yeah. And every swinging couple is going to tell you something different. So this is obviously just our opinion, kind of the road we we've taken there's no correct way or wrong way just kind of have to figure it out as you go yeah i think i think for everybody it's going to be their own journey right yeah just a little bit of advice right so i think uh and this is kind of i think we've kind of compiled this list based off of tiktok lives and the questions we've got and some of the uh you know talking to our friends yeah so this is kind of our roadmap into maybe some of the best ways to begin into the lifestyle but again just just some ideas yeah just ideas all right so usually the first question we get or the question maybe this might be one of the biggest questions we get on tiktok is how do i convince my spouse to join the lifestyle which okay that that statement in itself is wrong you can't convince anyone to do anything right right yeah so i i don't think the word convince is the right because if you're approaching this with i need to convince her to do this or i need to convince him to do this yeah it's probably the wrong attitude it's more like let's share let's come up a way with a way to enjoy this together right how can i share my fantasies with my spouse and get them on the same page that i'm on yeah right um so if you do have these types of fantasies if you are you know are open to the idea of sharing your spouse and swapping and couple, you know, partner sharing, how do you bring that up to a spouse that maybe, maybe isn't interested or maybe hasn't brought up those fantasies before? We always say pillow talk is probably the first place to bring it up. That's kind of, you know, where maybe you're having some naughty fun naughty fun maybe just it could be just regular Tuesday night sex right yeah that's a good time right and I think you know it's a good time because that's when where you it seems to be when people are most open to naughty ideas right so if you're in the heat of the moment if you're getting getting hot and bothered and you maybe you say, baby, I think it would be really hot to see you with two guys. Yeah. Or baby, I'd really like to see you take a big dick. Or you could go the girl avenue. I think that might. What would be the girl avenue? Well, I mean, as a female, I think I'd probably take it better if the guy was like, I'd love to see you kiss a woman. Okay. Yeah. That's another. I mean, unfortunately in our society, female, female activity. It's more of the word. Yeah. It's a little bit more socially acceptable than a married woman hooking up with another man. So I don't know. Maybe that's just me. No, I mean, I think i think you're correct that's probably that is a way to take it i think my only caution to that would be if you have fantasies outside of just that yeah you know if you if you know i think some people go down the rabbit holes if i just want to see you with a chick when their fantasies are much deeper right they just use that as like a cover up how do you get from that to the next that's true um just something to keep in mind yeah um so all right so say we're we're having pillow talk and i i mentioned that to you and you seem to respond positively right you get it's obvious that you're aroused by that that's one option that's a good sign right that means uh you probably those fantasies, at least on some level, because you're responding positively to them. But what if you respond negatively? I would drop it. Just drop it completely? Like never approach it again? No, not completely. Because if it's something that you genuinely want to do, then you obviously need to communicate that to your partner. But in the moment, I probably wouldn't start a big fight. I would just see how the other person reacts. And if they kind of seemed a little taken aback by it or a little like, no way, I wouldn't then start pressing. Why wouldn't you? I wouldn't do that. I would just kind of let it die. And then maybe another opportunity, bring it up again and say, I know I mentioned that, but that's something that I'm really interested in right yeah so i think i think really either way uh now if if she or he could be a he right i think we don't assume she but if she or he responds negatively maybe you just want to give it some time and then re re bring it up but if they respond positively really either way the next step is then to have an open conversation about it right say hey you know maybe the next day of breakfast maybe a week later whatever when you're alone on a date maybe before sex the next time whatever the case may be say hey remember that the other night we were talking about um you being with a girl i heard there's this uh club in atlanta or i heard there's this website where you can actually meet people that are into that. Uh, I think that the next step is really to have a sober, I guess. Yeah. Not in the heat of the moment. Yeah. Cause that, I don't know if you remember from the first episode, that's kind of how it was brought up to me kind of like after some hot sex, the guy was dating was like, I's this swinger club in nashville and you can go and watch people have sex like in front of everyone right and were you still kind of like riding that high from having sex and yeah we were and i was like oh that's really cool you know didn't think anything of it and then the next day i found myself thinking about it so i went back to him and was like tell me more about this club right and he was like I don't know anything but I'll find out and so like for our first experience we just went and watched um right so yeah so before we you know not to jump too far ahead but I think so once you realize that you both are interested in this then the next step is okay we're both on the same page is either going to a sex club or meeting up with other couples or inviting another girl over or meeting another girl you know we want to do that so really the next step is let's get on the same page about what we want from this right Yeah, because we've we've encountered couples that are doing swinging or part of the lifestyle and you can see if they're not there for the right reasons like if one is really into it and the other's not i mean that writing is all over the wall you can see it from a mile away there definitely are a lot of red flags you know couples that say oh we're doing this to fix, you know, we didn't, we didn't use to have sex and we're trying to, we're trying to usually tell you that. Well, yeah, they don't usually figure it out really quickly. So if that is you just know that if you are using swinging to kind of cover up a bad marriage, it shows through people will see it. Right. So I guess the next step is really now that you know you're both interested or interested interested you really got to have a conversation about what what are your rules right what do you want to do do you want to just play with a girl do you just want does the wife just want to play with a girl that you know whatever the case is you really have to have an open and frank conversation of these are all the possibilities, this is what we want to do, and these are the things
Speaker2:
that we don't want to do.
Speaker1:
And you don't have to jump in all the way, right? Just because you've just started out. I mean, like, you may eventually want to be a full swap couple, but your rules in the beginning are going to be much different rules than two years in.
Speaker2:
So just be mindful of that. You don't have to go in all the way immediately right yeah i think the idea of this is just to you know maybe the guy is just thinking he wants to watch the two girls together and the girl's thinking she wants to sleep with another guy like you got to make sure you're on the same page and you both are going into this looking for the same thing correct then really the next step is once you guys get on the same page and you know you're looking for the next thing the best way to find people in the lifestyle unfortunately maybe is
Speaker1:
these these swinger websites right i'm so shocked when people come to me they're like we're swingers but how do how do y'all meet people i'm like are you on a swinger site and they're like what's a swinger site i'm like how can you be a swinger and not have a swinger site that's like Thank you. how do y'all meet people? I'm like, are you on a swinger site? And they're like, what's a swinger site? And I'm like, how can you be a swinger and not have a swinger site? That's like so confusing to me. I would imagine if you're not on SLS, SDC or some of these other websites, it's got to be extremely difficult to meet people. Yeah. So like first things first, you and your spouse have decided we're going to be swingers. You need to join a swinger website. You may even need to join two or three to figure out which one you like, because we found that they're very regional. What is very popular here might not be popular in your city and vice versa. The two big ones that we have found are SLS and SDC. Right. And those are probably the biggest websites and probably the most universal right i think uh i think sls probably has them if i remember at least they claim to have the most subscribers sls seems to be the most popular one in my opinion i don't know if that's actually true but when you reach out to people i feel like almost everybody has an sls or had one at some point it might be again maybe that's just our region we might be that might be the case but overall i would say sls i i think they claim to have the most subscribers sls on the west coast on the east coast in florida and in new york i mean we've used sls everywhere right and i would say probably second to that at in our experience, would be SDC. Yeah. SDC, again, full disclosure, you're an affiliate of SDC. I am. I'm an ambassador. But I'm not, I don't have to talk about SDC. I'm not an affiliate with SLS. And we're very open and honest that we like both of them. We literally use both of them. Right. Their social media, Julietta is her name she's on tiktok uh she reached out to us and she said hey i'd really like uh you know lacy i'd like you to be a brand ambassador or however they worded it uh and our very first question was like we like stc we you know we used it before they were reached out to us but we were very clear that we didn't want to be, I guess, just involved with them.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
We wanted the ability to be able to be honest because we do use SLS probably a little bit more than SCC if you want us to be. Right. And honestly, we met and got married and everything with SLS. So we didn't want to not be able to talk about SLS because we definitely have some. But we can. We can talk about whichever we want. But I am definitely an ambassador, and in the the show notes we'll put the link to my sdc code or it's like a website that you can go to and you get two weeks free so if you don't have one you can start there or you can go to sls whichever you choose right um but so let's just talk about a little bit about the website yeah let's do that first they're not great website yeah i think we talked about this a little bit on our other podcast but it seems like everything with a website and swinging uh it's just difficult they have apps both of them do we don't typically use the app so we kind of like just the web browser version i think because we're on apple at least sls is or stc might be limited to what pictures they can show on the apple store and so we tend to just go to the websites yeah because it saves all your information right you can but the basic idea of both sls sdc and we we are in cassidy they're probably the third one we hear the most about yeah we use cassidy as well yeah there's three fun there's a whole bunch i can't honestly we couldn't list them all uh here if we wanted to because there's so many uh but really you know once if you get on one and start talking to people especially in your area they will give you be able to give you better recommendations of what website to use but i think they're all basically the same you make a profile you uh basically dating out you put up some pictures generally speaking people don't put their face so it'd be some kind of like you know an acute outfit with your face cut off. And that's what most people post. Now, I think they both allow you to have locked galleries, right? So you can open more pictures to people if you start talking to a hot couple. You're like, I want them to see our pictures. You can unlock them for just that couple. So you're not unlocking it for everyone. So they can see face pictures. They can see maybe some naked kind of naughty pictures. Yeah, naked kind of naughty pictures what you want so you know probably in the beginning you're probably gonna be a little bit more reserved i guarantee you a few years in you're probably going to show the penis and the vagina yeah i think we're to the point where i don't i think we still have our faces hidden but yeah there's not much point in that um but i would encourage people if they do get on these websites to take some time uh take some good pictures fill fill out the actual account you know because it'll ask you your ages height weight you know you can edit it like when you first do it originally you can kind of keep it vague and then maybe go in and look at other people's profiles see what they've wrote kind of kind of compare what you, you know, because honestly, when you're first starting out at Swingy, you're probably not 100% sure what you're looking for. But reading what other people are looking for, you might think, oh, I want to do that. I want to do that. So I think looking at other profiles, seeing what's out there will kind of help you get your profile really good. i think uh my only rec as far as that goes my recommendation would be not to have it blank no and be really open and honest about what you're looking for right if you're if you're looking for just guys say you're looking for guys if you're looking for a couple you know whatever your interests are kind of lay it out there just be honest that's the cool thing about swingers is there's really no judgment and if you so it might be hard to find what you're looking for if you're looking for something super specific but if you're honest on there you'll probably find it right yeah and i think that's the key and if you're new to put hey we're a new couple we're just getting started in lifestyle maybe you know maybe we're not we're not really sure what we're looking for but we're open we know we don't want to want to do X, Y, Z, but we, you know, we're open to exploring. Yeah. Cause I think like just behind the scenes, like when I made my first profile as a single female, I think I probably made it sound like I had been in that lifestyle. Like I was afraid to be a newbie where I should have just owned it. Right. I just was like, I don't know what I said, but I just kind of gave the impression that I had been around for a while. I don't know. I didn't want to be the new girl.
Speaker3:
I get it. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker2:
No, but I think the best, I think honesty is the best policy.
Speaker1:
Yeah, because there's another couple that is brand new that is probably willing to figure this out with you.
Speaker3:
Right. Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker2:
Or maybe there's a couple that's been in the lifestyle for a while and would be willing to show you the ropes.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker1:
Yeah. What else about the websites? I think that's about it, right? So make a good profile. Take some good pictures. Don't leave your picture blank. Even if it's just a picture, I don't know, come up with something. Don't leave it completely blank because if anybody's going to message us, if they don't have at least one picture up, we not gonna we're not gonna respond also make sure your pictures are true and accurate that's probably the most frustrating thing when you like finally go to meet a couple and their pictures were taken 10 years ago yeah catfishing is definitely a big red flag yeah i don't think i don't even know that people necessarily mean to i just think like maybe we've gained 10 pounds because of covid and we're like, I don't want to update that picture because I looked really hot in that picture. But, you know, I mean, just think about if it was you in your shoes and you were expecting to meet someone, you know, 25, 30 pounds lighter and then somebody else comes walking in. You just don't want to mislead anyone. Right. So then once you get on these websites, kind of the world will open up for you a little bit right so you'll be able to see where the clubs are yeah you'll be able to see where the parties are uh hotel parties are usually listed on there that's another big question where do we find events do you have a swinger website i know like well you you have to get on one of these to find these things yeah and that and that's really i mean sls sec i'm sure these other sites as well um that's where swingers post all all the things that are going on in their area um some areas have regional groups you know so if you're in a certain part of the united states likely there'll be a group on sls for that area you can join the group chat with people meet some people yeah and really you know especially the locals that have been in the lifestyle for a while will have the best information for you as far as where to go and what to do in your area yeah i mean some of the best places we've found have been from people like an example we were going to atlanta for a work christmas party we had never been there before we changed our profile to our city to atlanta georgia we started chatting with people because we had heard of a club and we were thinking about going. They were like, no, you should go to this other place. We ended up going to the other place and having a blast and meeting some of our best friends ever. So you'll really get good information from people through these. You'll learn kind of as you make connections and stuff that sometimes the people are the best resource for a lot of this. Yeah, I really think that's probably the truth. And that's the best thing about these websites. Because honestly, once you're on them for a while, you know, and you've met everybody in your area, they can kind of get stale. They can kind of get boring. Yeah. It's still good for as far as clubs and events and, you know, parties going on in your area. But especially initially, they're kind of your lifeline to the lifestyle, so to speak so what about the cost we haven't talked about that uh honestly i don't i don't so we are we have lifetime memberships to both right and i think sls is 150 and sdc is 250 or you can pay per month or you can pay for three months um i'm not sure the price is based on the mind i don't know i think sls or sdc is a little more expensive i think they're like 25 30 i think sls last i knew was like 15 yeah if you are a real swinger and you really are interested in this lifestyle don't have a free account yeah i mean i don't know how else to say it nicely if someone messages us with a free account i don't even think we can can they even get our message back i don't know how else to say it nicely. If someone messages us with a free account, I don't even think we can – can they even get our message back? I don't know. Yeah, the free accounts are very limited. I think you can only look at a few profiles or maybe you can send like five messages a day or something like that. Yeah, and so if I see someone with a free account, to me they're not taking swinging serious. They're just in this to get a good hookup and have some hot sex when they move on. Right, it seems like a lot of the single guys just looking for a hookup get on free accounts and start just messaging people so if you were genuinely trying to find quality couples splurge and spend the 30 bucks for the month at least in the beginning like we we had our profile together for probably close to a year before we decided to get a lifetime membership yeah no idea yeah so i mean until you know what you want to do but i mean 150 compared to like 20 bucks a month you know i mean it works out in the long run yeah definitely if you know you're going to be in a lifestyle for a few years or more it pays off it pays itself off pretty quick um yeah so get on the website definitely that's the thing and then start start chatting with people in your area right yeah um so as far as what location should you use for your profile yeah i've i've seen it all i've seen some people use their actual city and state like you know especially if they live just in a normal size everyday city i've seen people that are in little small towns use the next biggest city um i've seen people use a city two hours away so it i guess that kind of probably depends on your comfort level and where you're willing to drive and meet people yeah so it's pretty typical that people won't especially if you're from a rural area they won't put that rural area because yeah there might only be one or two or maybe 10 people in that area and so people other people that are on will quickly figure out who's in the lifestyle and who's not um but if you're near a like a semi-big city you know 100,000 or more people um it's a little safer because there'll be people on it you know if you're not putting your face on there, except for underlocked pictures, to me it's a little safer because you're going to see their pictures before you unlock it. And you, honestly, you could unlock some sexier photos that don't even have your face in there. You know, if you just really are against that.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
And I think some of the struggles of if you're in rural areas, there won't be many people and it'll be hard for you to find matches. So if you, if you are on one of these websites or you get on one of these websites and you're
Speaker3:
Thank you. Yeah. And I think some of the struggles of if you're in a rural area is there won't be many people and it'll be hard for you to find matches.
Speaker2:
So if you if you are on one of these websites or you get on one of these websites and you're struggling to find people and to make matches, the recommendation would be to move your profile to an area close to you that has more people.
Speaker1:
Correct. So a lot of people ask us, do we swing locally? Do we travel? And honestly, we swing when we try like if we have a free Saturdayurday night we're not looking for a local couple to meet at the local bar not that we're against that well no we're not against it there's a few couples that might be listening that we swear we're trying to get no no i mean there are couples locally that we care about we want to meet and that we we've made relationships with but overall if we have a friday or sat Saturday night free with kids, where are we going? Without kids. Yeah, without kids. Like, are we going to Nashville? Are we going to Atlanta? Are we going to Florida? So we kind of make an event out of our speed. For us, it's our time alone without children. Let's go do something fun. Yeah, and we know that not everybody can do that that meeting a local couple at a bar might be more your speed too so um yeah so i guess it depends on what your style of swinging is right so once you get on these websites and you know once you start chatting you'll meet some people um they'll give you the lowdown on the lifestyle in your area tell you where the clubs are tell you where the hotel takeovers are um tell you if there's any house parties um you know and then there's kind of there's kind of two ways you could go um for your first experience right yeah you know i think for a recommendation would be if you are an introverted type person and you get overwhelmed in crowds and loud and parties and that kind of stuff probably for your first meetup you probably want to meet a couple and meet them at a bar or somewhere public like that right that's what we did yeah yeah and the nice part about it's gonna be quiet you can talk you can actually get to know them you can get comfortable with them and that's all great now if you're an extroverted type person um maybe you want to go to a club maybe you want to go to a hotel takeover the positives of going that route are you can watch right you could just go to one of these events and things and just which we really suggest i mean there is something so hot about going in and watching other people do the things it's probably going to turn on. You're probably going to go back to your hotel room or your home or wherever and have amazing sex because it was so hot. It's probably going to make you eager to want to come back and do it again.
Speaker2:
Yeah, and even for your first experience, if you go to a club or a hotel event and you just play with your spouse
Speaker1:
but you do it in a public area or with a window or a door cracked open. That that you know that's a good way to introduce yourself into the lifestyle we've been in the lifestyle for a while and that's still almost my favorite right like we did it two out of the three nights last week i don't know i just love being watched and like i feel super naughty being watched so for me that's that's fun so don't be intimidating if you're new and you think oh well people are going to think we're bashful or whatever if we just have sex with each other no we've been in it for a long time and we still do that yeah no that's it's definitely a route to go and then there's real no pressure to try to you know do things or not do things with a couple you know you can kind of just go in you can kind of be a fly on the wall watch everything and have fun with each other so then the other route is meeting up with a couple at a bar at a restaurant and kind of getting to know them that way i think either way you go our suggestion would be go meet somebody and tell that couple you know or if you go to a a party go in with the mindset that we are not going to play with anybody we're just going to go yeah you just really want to take it very slow we tell this to people all the time on tiktok so you can always add more things it's kind of hard to just jump right in it's you can't take it back yeah lots of couples do let's just say that a lot of couples go and full swap their first time out and they're great they're amazing they love the lifestyle but that's risky and we don't want to give anybody any advice that and they come back and get mad at us say you told us a full swap on the first time we're not telling you to do anything but we are saying just go slow right yeah so i think the best way to approach it would be one have a
Speaker2:
conversation again have a conversation with your spouse see where your comfort levels are at you're gonna have to play down there's no like negotiating here right it's not like if lacy wants to full swap and i just want to go watch there's no like okay well i guess we'll soft swap since that's kind of in the middle right no because you're forcing a person to do something that they're
Speaker1:
not comfortable with which is gonna set up the situation to go badly right yeah um so you really have to play down to whoever the least comfortable person is right so if i want to go and just watch you really have to be like okay if that's what you're comfortable with this first time we're gonna go you have to stick to it like if you make that pack before you walk in you both have to stick to it regardless of how many drinks you've had you have to stick to it and if that means you don't drink then it's just it's so hard to come back once it's done it's you can't come back you have to right yeah so that's it's always what we say is if you go and you have a bad experience that first time because one person wants to go all the way the other person you know before they went out so they didn't want to but then you get them there and they have a few drinks and now maybe you've convinced them because they're drunk to do it and then they do it and then the next day they feel bad like now you just you just ruined swinging for the rest of your relationship yeah so it's almost just like we said before it's better to go very very slowly in the the beginning to everyone's comfort level because I think the longevity of your swinging life will probably be there than if you just rush into it. You're just horny as hell and you're just like, let's just go have sex with the first couple we see. Yeah. And so another thing I would say is it's very typical for new couples to have a ton of rules, right? Yeah. Let's talk about rules.
Speaker4:
What are our rules?
Speaker1:
A good time to talk about that.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
So we get to ask this all on TikTok, and we can never really talk fully about it.
Speaker1:
No, we can't.
Speaker2:
So I guess we can talk about it here. So again, what we put out on TikTok is we always use protection, which is 100% true, that we always use condoms. We've only probably not done that with one couple ever, and I would consider them lifelong friends of ours right yeah um so that's our first rule uh second rule is we always communicate in group text right so we don't message people couples on the side um we don't talk to people now it's getting a little we have discord servers and snapchats and all kinds of things going on now so it's getting a little more it's a little bit gray but but we still stick to with swinging couples couples we know we're going to play with we still stick to these these same rules um what's the third rule same room right so we and that's a hard rule for us again if we've known you know that couple that we've known for years we might we're in the same area basically but it might not be the exact same room yeah but again lifelong what i would consider a lifelong friends so those are the big three but then more specifically we can get into uh so lacy doesn't do anal um for the most part for the most part maybe we're working with some plugs and you might get there someday yeah but like not somebody else's husband right and so you know we're always me and lacy are always growing and exploring and trying new things and we're very open to that but again me and her can do that at home where she feels more comfortable and more safe yeah we don't necessarily do that with couples that we're not correct with
Speaker1:
yeah so also no cum on my face or in your mouth or in my mouth or on my eyelashes you don't like
Speaker2:
that in my hair at all not even with me i think you've made a exception once in a while i'll let
Speaker1:
you do it but that's again different i you know that's not something i super want to do period See you next time. in my hair at all not even with me you've made an exception once in a while i'll let you don't do it but that's again different i you know that's not something i super want to do period i'm sure as hell ain't gonna let some random guy do it to me right if i'm gonna let you do it so you like love me more because i'm a rock star you know i love you anyway thanks um those are my two big things is the anal and the calm right do you have anything that's awesome i'm just uh straight would be my only real other than the ones we know bisexual tendencies i'm very i think we've talked about this before i'm very comfortable around guys and i don't mind close contact i don't mind contact if it happens um with a girl there um but i just don't want anything just i wouldn't go play with a guy just being a guy that's not something i just it's not something i desire yeah um so yeah that's probably my only yeah so those are our rules and they've changed and evolved and you know over the years i mean would you say yeah i think with all this all lifestyle stuff it's all very fluid and it's it's really even our rules change per couple, right? Yeah. If we get to know a couple, we might change our rules up a little bit. Yeah, like, for instance, we have a couple that we know that are poly. Right. So I don't communicate with them at all. Right. Dan handles all the communication with the husband just because. I don't even know if that just kind of happened that way. I don't, and I think we're like, well, that's probably the best way to keep it. Yeah, no, no, we't intend to do it that way. It's not like we were like, oh, this is going to be our rule with them. No, see, but that just shows. We didn't plan to make it a rule. But after it happened, we were like, oh, well, that probably made sense. Because we don't want to mislead them in thinking that we're in that lifestyle. Even though we think they're awesome, we like hanging out with them. They were an amazing time. A damn good time. I mean, a damn good time. And I want to hang out and play with them we're gonna make that happen soon if you're but we don't want to mislead them that we are in the same lifestyle as them even though we do enjoy naughty fun with them yeah um so some other rules that are typical is a lot of essentially new couples will be the no no kissing rule. Yeah. Which is not one of my favorites. It's not. And it's kind of looked down upon. Well, it depends on the person. It is. Let's just be honest. But it's okay. It's okay if that's your rule. It's okay if you want to make it that rule. Actually, I get it. Kissing is super intimate. Right. I get it. Some people just aren't comfortable. But it's kind of hard being a swinger and having intimate moments. Um, cause to me, penetrating my vagina is also intimate. It is. Uh, another rule you will encounter a lot is people don't want to orgasm together or ask their partner not to orgasm with another spouse. We've kind of dabbled with that a little. That's never been our role, but we do. If you listen to you listen to our our podcast you know we spend a lot of time apart so sometimes we'll meet each other at a location and we've not been together for four or five days right so and it's not a rule we don't have a rule that he can't orgasm with someone however sometimes if we haven't came together in four or five days lacy gets jealous and he comes inside of a girl i mean with a condom but inside of a girl or in her mouth or wherever, I'm like, that was mine. You saved that for five days and it's supposed to be for me. Yeah. You know, so, but again, it's not our rule, right? Right. He didn't break any rules. He didn't overstep. But we're human. Right. We're human. Yeah. It's okay to be a little jealous about something. what are some other any other common i've been told i can't call husband babe before names yeah some couples are specific about what names you can and can't use yeah and i i get it right i think you should save some certain things for your spouse right that's just me so i get it um babe to me was a hard one right because i call everybody babe yeah so it was kind of hard and kind of took me by surprise when i was told i couldn't call that but um but i also get it so yeah now now some couples have like opposite rules where they they'll only play in separate rooms and things like that yeah so i think that's do we say same we did say same rooms are so the other option there is separate rooms yeah which is like two different bedrooms in the same house but then some couples we even do like separate houses like where the the wife or husband will just go they can leave yeah i'd say that's more like an open open relationship than it is yeah and sometimes just the husband can do that or just the wife i mean the cool thing about the lifestyle is everybody has different rules and nobody's super judge other than the kissing nobody lacy's if you don't kiss lacy's judging you no i get it i get it but i am i am judging a little but i get it but other than that i mean nobody really judges anybody for their rules we get it right it's our husband our wife we get to make the rules with what we're comfortable with yeah no 100 is there any other rules you can think of i'm sure there are but we just aren't thinking about it like some people will say no anal sex right yeah some people save the anal sex just for their partner yeah um i don't know no i think i mean that's that's at least an idea of what the rules are yeah um what else what else you got for newbies what is soft swap versus full swap okay that's a that's a great question um so yeah so when you ask so i guess this is a good we'll back up a little bit but when you first meet a couple some of the questions that normally come up are how'd you get in the lifestyle how'd you get in the lifestyle how long have you been in the lifestyle and then like what are your rules and generally when you say like what are your rules it's are you soft swap are you full swap and then are you same room are you separate room that's mostly the rules they're asking you about now once you talk to them a little more you'll get into the kind of the do you kiss do you do anal all that stuff but generally speaking right off the bat they want to know soft versus full or same or separate so we'll go over that so soft swap is generally so soft swap is considered anything but penetrative sex yeah right and uh kissing rubbing oral oral yeah now you can be on that spectrum though you can say hey we're a soft swap couple but we don't do oral like above the waist soft swap right so there's there still is even for soft swap some people will get even more specific and only do certain things or won't do certain things yeah um in the soft swap realm um and then if you're a full swap couple that means you will do everything to include intercourse but still within your boundary full swap couples yeah like no anal would be a full swap rule um but honestly we like if we meet a new couple i don't necessarily say no anal right i guess you may bring it up in the moment if it if it because a lot of times it doesn't even get to that point no it doesn't get most couples don't try that right out the gate yeah so to speak but uh yeah i guess it could happen um and then same room versus separate room i think we kind of went over that same room as you you usually play within eyesight of your yeah it could be two beds it could be one bed it could be a bed and a couch it's just in the same general area right i want to i want to be able to see and that's for us i think we do it for a few reasons it's one is i like to know especially like in a club or a public environment i want to know lacy's safe right so you know there a lot of times there's guys single guys some of them can be pushy um so i just want to have eyes on her one for safety reasons and then two i think it's hot to watch her it's so hot y'all if you haven't done it and you're like i'm gonna cross our pg-13 boundaries but if you're getting fucked and you look over and you watch your husband fucking someone else and they're doing that move they absolutely love and you know how good it feels damn it's so hot yeah and and i will say so like when i'm with another girl and you're fucking another guy it's like it makes the sex with the girl i'm having sex with so much better because i hear you moaning i hear the sounds i you know like yeah people like say all the time doesn't that make you jealous how do you handle them like it's the opposite it turns me on it makes me want to like fuck harder and yeah yeah it's essentially you're having sex to real life porn to real life porn with your very own porn star right i mean and yeah maybe maybe if you're a soft swap cup or a couple or same you know playing if you're having sex with your own spouse in the same room it's still the same you you're kind of experiencing that too yeah um so yeah it's definitely that's really hot now that's really the reason for me why i'm same room is because i want her to be safe and i want to watch her because I think she's hot. For you, I think you want to be in the same room because you get a little, you want to know what's happening because you can get. Yeah, so my mind gets the best at me. I've been super honest, you know, in the TikToks and I don't know if we talked about it here, but I can get jealous. Not like a crazy psycho jealous, but, you know, I guess we haven't even been married a year. So, you know, we haven't been together for 20 years. I'm still, like, head over heels, madly in love with you. Not that I think that's going to change, but, you know, with time, you know what I'm saying. So if you're off by yourself with a girl, in my mind,'all are getting married you're running away you're planning your life together where you're going to get married you've drawn up divorce papers like in my mind that's what happens but in reality you're just fucking her hard as shit making her come and then you're like have a great day and she's like bye and then we leave but in my mind it just gets the best of me right so for me it's like a peace of mind to look over and it's also super hot to like know that i'm looking over and you're watching me like that like like no you're not falling in love with her you're watching your wife which is very common for that to happen yeah yeah so we've learned that well we in uh you know i've heard other couples talk about this but a lot of times we'll hold hands or touch each other you know just something that you know we'll connect during during the the scene if you will yeah um that's very common yeah so what else about softball that's it i think i mean the next thing i would say is just always communicate right so yeah so if you get to the point where you meet up with a couple whether it's a one-on-one or a club situation and you play and maybe you know the first time you did soft swap really then the next step is when you get back home have an honest open honest conversation with your partner like it say i didn't like it right if if your partner did some things that made you feel uncomfortable or made you feel jealous say hey babe well when you brushed her hair to the side and looked into her eyes that just made me a little bit jealous yeah and that's okay and we do that we have those conversations often I would say all the time because we didn't we're not it's not like we're swinging every other day or anything but we talk about it often right we talk about all that stuff quite quite frequently and it's good it's good to have those conversations one is because a lot of times you'll realize like oh i didn't even realize i did that and that made you jealous so you know not that maybe i won't you know because i didn't break a rule maybe it might happen again but i'll just be a little more mindful of oh i see why that looked intimate to her and she didn't like that. I'll try to avoid that situation in the future.
Speaker2:
Any other things like that? And I think that's the biggest thing. So have a conversation about what you liked, what you didn't like. Maybe if you soft swap, maybe be like, okay, let's talk about full swap. Is that something we'd be comfortable with? Is that something we'd want to do the next time? And I think what we've found, and it happened with us
Speaker1:
and it happens with a lot of couples, is you start with the laundry list of rules yeah and then as you start doing this stuff you realize it's not as scary and not as crazy you realize you can have sex with someone and and not fall in love with them not want to run away and get married right yeah and i think i've compared it to bungee jumping before on on tiktok is you time it's a lot like, you know, if anybody's done skydiving or bungee jumping or something like that, it's very scary to look at. Right. And you're like, oh, my gosh, this is gonna be nuts and this is gonna be crazy and I'm probably gonna die. Right. But then you do it and you're like, oh, I'm still here. I'm still alive. Yeah. I didn't die. I didn't splat on the on the earth. And I kind of want to do it again yeah and this time instead of tandem jumping i want to jump by myself you know i mean so well and never be afraid to back things up too uh so just a quick little story we decided at some point that we were gonna try separate rooms like not together right this is a good story for this don't you think no i think this is the perfect story for this so because we want to show that it's not always perfect like we mess up we're not perfect we've kind of made our rules of trial and error so during covid when everything was shut down and we were bored out of our mind i thought it would be super hot for Dan to go fuck this girl that he used to fuck.
Speaker2:
Well, we talked about them a little bit. So it was the couple...
Speaker1:
From the first episode, we talked about the couple that he was playing with the night I met him.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker1:
It's the same couple. So one night we were having sex and I was like, you know, it'd be so fucking hot if you go fuck the shit out of her. Which kind of shows that like sex brain is almost like drunk brain yeah the things you say when you're drunk or when you're in the middle of fucking might not be you know so we're just talking about he's like yeah you want me to fuck her baby you want me to fuck her yeah and you can super hard yeah and i'm like yeah so you know we got done and i was like i think you i think you should do's like, whoa. Right, so she did what we tell people to do when you're interested in a thing, right? So if you bring it up during sex and there's a positive response after sex or the next day, bring it up again and say, hey, if you're serious, maybe we should try that. Yeah, so I did. I brought it up again. And Dan was like, no. I was like, fuck no, this is a trap. I don't know what kind of games you're playing, lady, but I am not falling for that shit yeah i'm not doing that no way in hell played separately or in a separate room and here i was wanting him to like leave our house and go fuck this girl and come back yeah but i was like no i got this i got this right so i was very much like i'm not doing it she ladies he handled it perfectly like if you could like ask your husband to handle something correctly he handled it perfectly because he pushed back he was like i'm not going this is a trap you're crazy i'm not doing it right so you pushed and essentially days for days it was days yeah and what i said is okay if you really i mean honestly like i'm cool with this right i have no issues with going and fucking people i did it for years before we met i'm all about that life but i know you're not comfortable with it and i'm cool not doing it um but i know this you know i had a previous not relationship but you know i had a history with this couple and i knew that this girl was very much into into that and i didn't want to i didn't want to play the game of reaching out to her and saying i'll come fuck you and then not doing it right so yeah i'm like if you really want me to do this if i reach out to her we're doing it messenger messenger and so i did and the second he did i felt like i was dying inside i could instantly see on her face was like oh instantly on her face she was not okay i was not okay like the second because you know we use kick which maybe we should go over kick after this story i don't know um but he messaged her on kick and was like hey you want to hang out or i don't even know what you said and i instantly she was like are you free tonight yeah i instantly i was like oh my god what did i do what did i do um but i didn't want him to know despite talking to you for hours and telling you that if i did this it was happening i wasn't going to back out despite that i didn't want you to back out either but despite me saying all that after seeing your face i still said what i won't go he said he wouldn't go until like literally he was outside i'm like i'll make up an excuse i'll say i have a car problem and i was like no i'll say we have the kids their kids had an emergency i'll say something i'll back out of this deep down i was wanting to die because i just did this i didn't really want him to know i didn't want to admit that I was wrong. And I also knew that she was really excited. Like she's showering, she's shaving, she's getting her sexiest lingerie on. And I knew she wanted this, you know, I just, I mean, I get it all the time. I know how good it is. I knew she wanted it. So he leaves and, um, what'd you do, babe? left um so go me you convinced me you again you were like no go go go and i'm like babe no i i can see you're not okay i'm not doing this go you pretty much were you pretty much like begged me to go just do it right so i left and in my head um so i stopped at a gas station to get condoms um because we in Bull. We don't normally use condoms, me and you. And I grabbed a, I think it was a, maybe it was a Red Bull. Yeah, it was something, some energy drink. And I was like, well, I'm going to send a picture of the condoms to her so that she's reassured that we're being, like I'm being safe, right? I'm following our rules. I was devastated. So not only did he leave, and I'm like broken hearted, trying to hold it together, crying on the floor. Then he takes me like two minutes later, a picture of an energy drink in the condom. So I'm like, oh, he's going to get energy so he can fuck her with all 10 of those condoms. He needs extra energy to fuck her good. Why did you get the family pack? I don't think I did. I think I got the small pack. No, you didn't, but I was devastated. So I turned off my phone, or not turned it off. I think I offered to turn around again. You did, yeah. And you're like, I'm going to turn off my phone. No, it's okay. I'm going to turn off my phone. I will see you when you get home. Yeah, because I didn't trust myself. I knew I was going to blow your phone up if I didn't stop. And that wasn't fair to you because you had handled yourself perfectly. It wasn't fair to her. She's just excited. She's about to get some, you know. So I took a shower or took a bath, took a bubble bath and watched a movie and just tried really, really hard to just not focus, to not think that y'all were getting married and running away and having babies and a house and a picket fence. Like in my mind.
Speaker2:
Well, at least I wasn't gone very long.
Speaker1:
No, you weren't gone too long. Like maybe two hours.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Maybe more than that.
Speaker3:
Thank you. babies and a house and a picket fence like in my mind well at least I wasn't gone very long no you weren't gone too long like maybe two hours yeah maybe more than that okay whatever did you use all four of the condoms probably I hate you so he so he came home I was in the bed and I said take your clothes off and put them in the washer I don't even want to look at you take your clothes off put them in the hamper and go get in the shower I think is what you said yeah no I made you put the clothes in the washer I didn't know yeah put them straight in the washing machine and then go get in the shower we are full-fledged swingers like we do this all the time not separately so like the fact that I was acting like this it's just kind of ridiculous but I was broken hearted and i was also really mad at myself because i genuinely for days thought i could do this i thought i've got this we are swingers we are we are rock solid we've not left each other's side for months he could totally go fuck somebody else like no problem honestly i think it was more you were disappointed with yourself yeah you know Lacey's genuinely disappointed she's a very competitive person she doesn't like being wrong and so I had told her and told her and told her that we not to do this and I was wrong and I was not going to admit it and she didn't want to admit that I was right and she was wrong and that we shouldn't have done it and so you know that got manifested in got manifested in her being mad at me somehow. Yeah, somehow. I didn't say mad that long because you did take a shower, you did put your clothes in the washer, and then you came back and we had like amazing sex. Yeah, I think we fucked the shit out of you. Yeah. We reconnected, yeah. We did. And it was fine. And then we cuddled and went to bed. Yeah, it was fine. I mean, was I like kind of mad for a few days? Probably. But no, I was was more mad at myself than him i probably just came across like i was mad at him because it was easier to do that than it was to say i was wrong but that's a really good example of we learned that night we are same room all the way we haven't we haven't played separately since no and we learned a very valuable lesson so i guess the point of that story is to tell you can mess up you messed up you know well and you know i guess the real point of that story is if you do that you know and you have an experience like that communicate yeah explain to each other why you're comfortable you know and i think eventually after you know the next day you know only now i can tell you i know why she was upset because she felt bad you know she felt bad she was wrong but it took us a while to get to really understanding yeah what those emotions were we learned like we that wasn't worth it like we enjoy being together we enjoy looking over and seeing each other so it was just a really good learning experience for us 100 to learn from arm snakes is that it we got any other advice for these newbies out there get kick if you're y'all kick yeah i'm gonna go over kick real quick yeah so if you've heard that it's k-i-k um so like we said in the beginning the swinger websites you know could be better the messaging there is not the greatest so we recommend downloading that app k-i-k a lot of swingers use that i mean honestly when you meet swingers that's probably going to be the next question is do you have kick yeah so typically once you start messaging on the websites once you kind of realize you're both interested very quick the next question is always what is your kick um because the messaging on the websites is so rough you can't really send pictures i think maybe you can maybe you can now send pictures through messaging i don't think you used to be able to but uh it's very common to move over to kick to to be able to conversate have a group chat and you don't have to share your phone number right with the person um so it's just kept within the app and you can obviously hide the app in your phone or turn off the notifications or whatever you choose to you can make group messaging so don't be at baseball and have that's pictures popping up in your phone somebody was looking at my phone for like a picture of something and somebody no it wasn't a picture it was like your pussy tasted tasted amazing and one of the moms saw it. I learned a very valuable lesson. It does taste amazing though. I turned the kick notifications off after that. But it's a good place to house all your naughty fun. And you're not giving out your phone number. You just have a username. You can make group chats. It's just a safer way to communicate in the lifestyle. Pretty common. Right. Very common. What else? I think that's all. I mean, that's kind of, obviously there's so much more to learning about swinging. We just kind of touched on some of the basics today and we'll eventually go into more detail about other aspects, but I think that gives you like a good starting ground. Yeah, absolutely. So, again, if you're interested in SDC, I'll drop that in the show notes. And then your code is 36313. And I think you can go to the website and just put that code in. You can. You can go put that code or you can use the link and then you don't have to put the code in that's for sdc but we also have sls and then also in the show notes i will drop our usernames for both of those platforms so if you guys want to message us you want to check us look at our profiles and look at our profiles it's also on the website uh which will be in the show notes but the swing nation.net is where we post all of our links all of our put all all the Um, so that information will be there as well. Yeah. Um, so I think that's it on swinger advice. Let's do a little weekend review, uh, real quick before we, before we call it a day. Okay. So we finished up our trip with secrets. So when we podcast last, it was Sunday morning. Um, so we had great sunday night in drove home monday i got white girl wasted you were pretty drunk sunday night i was i was drunk all day from day into night yeah but we had a good day at the pool yeah it was a great day um what the highlights not really too many there was a kind of a blowjob train on the side of the pool at one point. Oh, yeah.
Speaker2:
Where like, what, five or six guys were on the edge of the pool and girls were giving them blowjobs.
Speaker1:
Dan started it, though.
Speaker2:
I did kind of start it.
Speaker1:
Well, you did start it, not you.
Speaker2:
Yeah, we met some TikTok fans and that was good.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
I also got, we had somebody come to the cabana and want to do that, too. Yeah, she's like, I'm sorry, can I have some? Yeah, can I have a taste? Yeah. Which we obliged, there was no problem. There was no we, you did. I was sitting on the other side. I was not involved in this. I saw you. What else? Anything else crazy? I don't think so. Somebody might have met a few drunk Snapchats from the cabana and posted them on the wrong Snapchat. Everybody on Discord was very excited about all of your drunken snaps.
Speaker1:
I was a mess.
Speaker2:
Yeah, you were all in the place.
Speaker3:
You missed it.
Speaker1:
Too bad. You should be on my Snapchat. Speaking of Snapchat, my Snapchat was deleted today.
Speaker3:
Today.
Speaker2:
A couple hours ago, really.
Speaker1:
So I made a new one, Swinging S Girl 2. So if you were on the previous one, make sure you find me on the new one. And if you're a premium member, you were also deleted. We do have a spreadsheet of all of our premium members, all 61 of you.
Speaker3:
Nice. I know.
Speaker1:
So we're trying to get you added back in, but sometimes the usernames that we have written down may not correspond. Like, I have page. There's like 27,000 pages on Snapchat. Yeah. So, if you're a premium member and you're not there. Message us back. Message us back. We'll confirm. We'll get you. You're on the list. We'll confirm on our Excel spreadsheet and get you back added. So, unfortunately, that's just kind of the life we have to deal with um things get banned things get deleted and we just gotta pick up and go again keep on keep it on yeah um other news you hit one percent exactly yes on only fans so you've been riding in like the 1.4 is 1.5 1.7 you kind of been in the one percent club yeah but now you are one percent on the dot so i need to be less than one percent right so you've been kind of trying to push the last couple days please guys help me out so if you're not on my only fans you should join it's not 96 right 969 969 dyslexic much thanks right but she wants she it's i think a personal goal of yours to be below who wouldn't want to be less than one percent on only fans how many people is there on only fans did we learn i don't millions i think yeah i mean that's gotta make a girl full damn good at least hundreds of thousands i don't know if it's millions yeah um yeah and because you're at one percent you know it's must be good content right because otherwise you wouldn't be there yeah yeah so check that out that'll be in the show notes um what else we got going on
Speaker2:
so we're going to nashville oh yes so we are part of a swing talk group and that's part of our discord server so if you're not on the discord server if you don't know all the tiktok girls are on there all the swing talk girls are on there which there's some there are some hotties um and we've decided kind of last minute i guess because we all had a free weekend yeah Thank you. All the TikTok girls are on there. All the Swing Talk girls are on there, which there are some hotties. And we've decided, kind of last minute, I guess, because we all had a free weekend, that we're going to go to Nashville. We are. We rented the most expensive Airbnb we could find. And we're going to make... Content? Possibly, if everybody... We're making some assumptions. We very much are still... We're hopeful to get some if we can all connect on that level i think the girls definitely can with each other so that's all that really matters um but if we connect on that level there'll be some content made make lots of fun tiktoks dan said i could buy sparkly cowboy boots i didn't say that yeah you did those words did not come out of my mouth so we're gonna get some sparkly cowboy boots and we're gonna so we're gonna tear apart nashville for the weekend and then but on the for everybody listening and everybody's on the discord server i think always already knows but we often get we'd love to meet you we'd love to see you tell us where you're gonna be and what you're gonna be doing so come to chemistry it's the local club in nashville which is the local swingers club i think you you can find it on sls and sdc yeah um there's i don't know what their website is off the top of my head maybe we can post that in the show notes yeah i don't know but uh yeah check out chemistry we'll be there saturday saturday the 25th saturday the 25th of september 2021 we will be at chemistry with tiktok girl, with, uh, for our place, Bella, which is, that's their podcast and that's their, uh, TikTok, uh, S and M for 16, which is, I don't know if we say her name, but M, uh, I don't know if she puts her name out in public, so I won't say, um, sexy swinger chick, sexy, sexy swinger chip, which I don't know if she puts her name out. So I won't say that, but we'll say K.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Uh, is that it? Yeah, that's it. And me. say that, but we'll say K. Yeah. Is that it?
Speaker3:
Yeah, that's it. And me. And Lacey. Swinging Southern girl. Right.
Speaker2:
So that's what, five?
Speaker1:
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker3:
So we'll all be there. We'll all be there. The theme is fetish. Fetish night.
Speaker2:
So wear leather. You got a nice leather outfit and some boots, right?
Speaker1:
Got me some sexy boots.
Speaker3:
Right.
Speaker2:
So we're excited for that.
Speaker3:
Mm-hmm.
Speaker2:
So yeah, come see us. Come check us out. Come say hi. I know you don't care care about me but definitely come say hi to lacy and all the girls um if you're not on our discord server you want to be there the discord server will be in the show notes it's an application chat group that you can get on from i think any smart device um and all the girls all the swing talk girls are on there so you can get on there and talk to them um that's what you want to do yeah that's it any other updates that covers it right tiktok is going a little slower this time yeah you yeah so we're still you're still trying to come back from your last band and it's definitely not 16 000 not as fast as last time no i don't think we're shadow band no i don't think we haven't had a big video hit yet yeah we'll get i think the most we've had it's like close to 300 000 which it seems ridiculous because remember when we like our first podcast we're like it hit 200 000 we were like oh my god now we're like it's only at 300 000 i only got 300 000 i only got 15 000 followers in three days yeah i know such a rookie i know you're sad people are rolling their eyes i know i get it i get it yeah so if you're not following us on tiktok go find me swinging southern girl 2.0 like comment share yeah build that help us build back yeah build back um all right that's it right all right so with that in a world full of apples be a pineapple be the pineapple guys bye have a great day bye if you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us leave a five-star review wherever you're listening if you want to see more of our content you can find links to snapchat OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server. If you have questions or feedback, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. Make sure you head on over to theswingnation.net and keep up to date on all things Swing Nation. We thank you so much for joining us, and we'll see you next time. Goodbye.
