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We we are your hosts northern guy and southern girl today's episode we're gonna be talking to you all about fantasies yeah i'm actually kind of excited for this i i caught you off a little off guard i think with this episode um so that the premise of this episode is i told lacy i need you to come up with three sexual fantasies and don't tell me what they are yeah and then i've come up with three and we're going to discuss them on this episode of the podcast i'm really excited to know what yours are i think you know one of mine but the other two or you will have no idea yeah and so i think this is good because this is i think fantasies it's what brought a lot of us to the swing?
Yeah. We probably had fantasies about having a threesome or maybe, you know, like for Lacey, girl, girl stuff. She had fantasies about that. And so we've always said that swinging non-monogamy, especially, you know, if we're non-monogamous but not polyamorous, for us, non-monogamy is a lot about just exploring our fantasies.
So I think it's good to be open and honest about what some of those fantasies are yeah i agree and i also think we take for granted how open and honest we are for each other because just even talking about this episode i was like well we probably need to add in how people can talk to their spouse about it and you were like they could just have a conversation i'm like well yeah but not everybody is as comfortable as we are to share things and i have to remember that because even past relationships i've been scared to share what my thing i would never tell a guy i i want to do this and like because i knew i would be judged or i don't know it just just felt wrong i guess it goes against everything that we were raised to believe yeah and it's crazy to me that this place we're in our relationship now that that i ever lived that way and was okay with it because i agree with you 100 you know in previous relationships i still had all the same fantasies like none of these fantasies have really changed much over my life but i just did not explore them and kept them to myself and you know maybe when i was alone i'd google some stuff but like for the most part you didn't you didn't have conversations about it with your partner certainly and then you certainly didn't try to find ways to explore them yeah and i almost think that's like kind of sad like what it is but and i also think because we're so deep in this we forget that other people are still living that life yeah because we've been so open and so honest I also wonder how do you go from like couples that don't do that to a couple that does like how did we get here yeah i mean like you and i have been this way since the day we met and i'm super grateful for that but a lot of couples are not that way so they're gonna have to develop this like freedom to say and feel whatever is right you know whatever, whatever they're feeling.
And so we have to work on their communication to get here. And it's going to it's not easy. It's not hard. I mean, you know, we're kind of getting a little bit off track. But when you start having these conversations, they're going to spark insecurities. They're going to spark jealousy. You know, especially if you're in a relationship that's strictly monogamous.
Having that conversation, you're going to have to go through all the same kind of processes you go through when you enter non-monogamy even if maybe you never explore non-monogamy because just some of these fantasies are going to trigger the same kind of things yeah all right so are you ready to get into fantasy so we do like one and then one that's what we'll do we'll go one one and then i think once we get through ours maybe we'll just talk genericallyically about some popular fantasies that are out there. We'll probably even hit on some of those as we talk about our fantasies.
And then maybe some, like you talked about, some techniques to talk to your partner about fantasies. Maybe we'll end with some of that stuff. All right. So what is – Do you want me to – no, you go first. No, you go first. No. I already know what your first one is anyway. Oh, you made it my first one my first one? Okay. So, it has a back story. When I was a unicorn in the lifestyle, I met this guy. And he had a fantasy of seeing me with another man. But the kicker was he wanted complete control of picking the man.
And he wanted me to have no part in it and not ever see the guy nothing so this is how it was set up he essentially found a single guy online and then he brought me to a hotel room and he blindfolded me you know we had a few minutes just him and I he blindfolded me and then um I kind of sat on the bed and the single guy came to the door the single guy came into the room me and the single guy had sex protected sex but and and then the guy and then we had a threesome just me and the two guys and then the single guy left and then I removed the blindfold and I never saw the single guy now when this happened I was a very early in the lifestyle I was extremely nervous I probably in hindsight shouldn't have done it because I didn't really know this guy very well to like trust him with that but I did it and it was extremely hot I very much enjoyed the entire process and now that I've been in this loving, successful relationship with you, I really want to try that with you because I think it would be extremely hot.
Now, on the flip side of that, we got extremely lucky because, like, what if the guy came in and couldn't get hard?
I mean, there was, like, a lot of factors that could have went into that that could have fucked all that up but somehow it just worked so i know that like me and you doing that it may not be that hot yeah and you're right when we talked about i think we talked about this when we first started dating you told me about this the scenario that happened and it's still something we haven't done to this day and i don't even really know why i think i guess because it would require a lot of work on my problem the reason the reason probably well yeah i'd have to find a male and then vet him and then you know like i probably should go like meet him in person first and like it's just there's a lot of i don't want to say heavy lifting on my side but we're just so our our schedules even since we started dating have been so hectic with the back and forth and you know you come to my place and me going to your place and now we're hosting events we're traveling over the country so like excuses there's a lot of excuses but i would even think it would be super hot to do that for you like me find a female and bring her in like i think like both scenarios could be extremely hot but again me trying to find a single girl to come in and fuck both of us would be probably hard it probably would be hard yeah yeah and you kind of like need to be able to see to do the things yeah maybe i mean i guess we could do them to you because that's what was i kind of was like it was all about me and i think that's why it was super hot because it was like all the attention was on me I just kind was like, it was all about me.
And I think that's why it was super hot because it was like, all the attention was on me. I just kind of like took it. Yeah. It is hot. I mean, I was, I did suck dick. Like they did like put my face to where it goes, but, um, but it was super hot. I really enjoyed that. And I would love to do it with you. Oh, I think we should, we should put it on the bucket.
I think it's been on the bucket list, but we should, I don't know, I guess find the love to do it with you oh i think we should we should put it on the bucket i think it's been on the bucket list but we should i don't know i guess find the time to do the the work to vet somebody because i could easily do that with somebody that we know right i could i could text you know one of our friends tomorrow be like hey meet me at this hotel room and honestly you maybe not you might not even realize that that's what happened um but the time to actually find i think that the struggle for us for this has been taking the time to find a single male that we don't know yeah and then and then yeah i don't i don't think i wouldn't even care if it was a friend of ours it's just the fact that i don't know who's coming and i don't you know unless it's somebody that i all of our friends are about to text me there's a few that i don't mind but um i just think it's just the thought it's just me giving over control i think that's where the fantasy is so hot that i'm giving you then what if he doesn't deliver though that's what i'm saying like the first time it really worked out it almost i don't you might have to just give him a viagra like regardless of who it is not that we would never give an unprescribed drug to somebody no I'm just saying like maybe encourage him to get his own prescription if he doesn't have one or maybe just take one of his um but yeah that would be a disappointment especially all the lead up to it now like I've been thinking about this for years and years so it would totally be a disappointment if he couldn't get hard and now all their friends are like sending back those sex messages they're like now the pressure now the pressure is on yeah but i think it would be hot okay i think so too i agree and it's something i think it's something we need to put on our list okay it's your turn my turn okay so i have this fantasy and i think you kind of know that this is a fantasy of mine but that we i'm blushing why you don't even know what i'm gonna say i'm just nervous oh that we have a submissive like female together yeah and in my fantasy i think it's more of a like a not really a long-term thing but like somebody that we trust and know and that we can dominate or more i can dominate and maybe you can assist me in dominating and we have talked about this let's do it i'm so turned on right now well because early on so you know i have a natural dominant personality and early on in our relationship i did give you tasks and you know was we did dominant sub type play us together since getting married and being together and having a house and family and jobs some of that has gone away and it's not not even on purpose a lot of it's like i love and care about you and don't necessarily want to see you do degrading things you know i mean although that is really hot and turns me on and i think it's really hot for you it is you on i also do it's almost like we need like another person to be part of that yeah that that fantasy like to be part of that game yeah game but you know i'm saying no i totally agree because i feel like well one i miss it because it was super hot and fun but now i can just tell you no we're where before i would be like i would i wanted to please you like i wanted you to be proud i do no i do but i can also tell you to fuck off you know there's a difference you're you know that i'm committed to this yeah relationship now yeah yeah so i yeah so i also miss it so i get that and i also have gotten to where in our relationship if i don't provide something for you it is also hot to find someone who provides right which and that's important for our listeners to know that that used to be an insecurity for you so very much so the first probably dozen times where we hit that where somebody did something for me that lacy either doesn't like to do or doesn't want to do or maybe can't do that would trigger her into that jealousy yeah it would mode right and she would be like i don't like that i didn't like that because of this and because of that now i think you've you've evolved on this journey enough to where it almost turns you on no it does turn me on i do have to be careful because very quickly I could get you can fall back yeah and I could find I can feel it sometimes coming on but I think I've been in this relationship long enough and I love you and I know your love for me that I can just remind myself that it's okay you know I can catch myself and be like no this is hot this gives him an outlet to do that but yet we can still be dan and lacy and be together and so i i like that because truth be told when either one of us are super great at monogamy so if you didn't have an outlet there's a good chance that like you would seek that well i don't i mean we could debate that but i don't think i would seek that in our current relationship.
But it definitely is. Because our current relationship, we're sleeping with other people. Sure, yeah. What I'm hearing you say, though, is like, oh, well, I want to find – I like this fantasy that you have of having a submissive female that you can play with. Because I feel like if I don't give it to you, you might go find it anyway. But I don't think that's the case.
No, i don't think that's the case no i don't think that's the case either i actually like the idea because it's hot and i want to do it as well the first and foremost i do feel like i also need outlets i need to be able to do things i think you do and i think that's what i think we're aware of them we're mature and we can say that and that's okay agreed yeah okay all right back to you so we okay i'm so turned on we're gonna fuck after this babe okay sorry so we're seeking submissive females for for play potential long-term play partners but here's the thing there's there's yeah do not live in california messages unless you're independently wealthy and is willing to fly yourself here i mean don't get me wrong we'll cover some of the travel but like we're not going to fly you here once you know the flip side so we talked a little bit about with finding a male that would come in and fuck you you know the work that would go into finding him and then vetting him and maybe it might be disappointing if he couldn't get hard or something like that but this submissive female thing is kind of the the hesitant there is the same thing like what if she's a bunch of drama what if she creates drama in our life what if she has needs and wants that we can't meet or fulfill what if you know like you know well i want her to live close enough that she could come over like if we have a fruit not but not too close that she's gonna pop pop in you know so that that's also a thing for me yeah we have to have clear rules and boundaries clear expectations then you know i don't know i could just think of you know we have friends that have girlfriends and stuff like that that it always seems to be a little bit of drama there's always just it's relationships are work you know i mean and so if you were going to have a submissive female be part you know especially if it's going to be an ongoing thing not just a one night thing there would be you're down for one night things yeah that's only down honestly that might be easier now that i think about it more but it would be fun to have a longer term because then you could explore more yeah and you'd feel comfortable to do that or that's hard in a one night thing.
I totally agree. All right. Now we can move on to you. Okay, me. So my second one is I would like to have a girl on girl experience alone. Okay. Some girls I'm extremely into. Some girls I'm into. Okay.
You know, and then some girls I'm not into at all all but if there's a girl that i'm extremely into i would love to explore that just by myself because i feel like every time i've ever played with a girl there's always men watching or men participating well and does does it does it feel like it gets cut off because the guys jump in probably yeah i just think that would be like a fun opportunity like for me to grow in that area i don't know i just feel like even if it's like we spend the night together and we just oh it's a night together yeah oh i mean i'm just i don't know just so like it's like i don't want a relationship with a girl i don't want to be with a girl like long term but there are certain girls that i'm extremely into that i would love just like a block of time to really explore why are you grinning no it's this is interesting well it's here's my perspective one you're like i want a long time with girl and girl and i'm like that's gonna be fucking hot like i love it and then then you're like i want to spend the night with a girl i'm thinking like well wait a minute you want to like cuddle with a girl and like spend the night with a girl i do and there's a tinge of jealousy there like wait a minute we're not polyamorous like that sounds kind of lovey and but i don't want like i don't want to be with a girl like i just want you just want to be with a girl cuddle with her one night just one night yeah yeah i mean if like it goes well maybe we'll do it another night i don't know but like i don't want i don't i don't want to be with a girl like in a relationship with a girl but i do think it would be fun to explore that side without like men watching and this is funny because i think you're almost hearing us in real time with this struggle between swinging non-monogamy and polyamory type non-monogamy right like we're and it's weird it's it's weird to me to even talk about it but like some of the things you're saying sound like i would like to cuddle with a girl and be somewhat romantic with her like that sounds you're saying are also that like a like a female that visits us very often yeah that is you know that is more than just like well yeah if you're talking about well now let's work around her schedule and yeah i mean and it's funny how these worlds meld like that you know because i would i still don't think we're poly like i would not identify as polyamorous but there obviously is a in between here i think cuddling with a female one night and like sharing a life with somebody is two totally different things but and i think swingers in general tend to like be freaked out by polyamory and i think it's okay to embrace the gray area in the middle i agree i agree one i think especially if you're talking about the whole spending overnight thing i'd probably be okay with that too but if you're just talking about like hey i'm gonna go to a room with this girl and for a couple like an hour or two and we'll be back i'm done with that tomorrow like well and i'm done with that too i mean like that's probably like the first star you know i'm not saying that like night one i think vanilla swirl would be the perfect girl for that yeah me too is she listening i don't know i don't know if they listen to the podcast i don't know either but somebody will probably send it to her at this point somebody that initial start with a k and a d um i don't know i just i don't know but i think it's weird so we get asked about jealousy a lot and i'm like watching you i know people can't see this but i'm watching you hear this and it's like it's almost a turn on for me that you would be like slightly jealous of a female is that wait and i don't even really understand but you know if again we're talking real time as i'm experiencing with emotions and yeah it's twofold it's one i'm like that's fucking hot and then two it's like well if you're gonna go spend the night with some girl like all by yourself and i'm not like one i'm gonna miss you and then two you're gonna be fucking a girl and like what am i gonna be doing and like so then there's all there's that whole side of it you know yeah and then part of me is like well then do i go get to go fuck somebody by myself like how you know i mean like it's a whole thing you know you can't go Thank you.
and like so then there's all there's that whole side of it you know yeah and then part of me is like well then do i go get to go fuck somebody by myself like how you know i mean like it's a whole thing you know you can't go fuck a girl by yourself well i'm not gonna go fuck a guy by myself we've already tried that the whole you go fuck a girl and that was the disaster so we're not going down this might be that might be a disaster too but just communicating it and saying out loud is i think like hot it is a hot fantasy i'm totally down for you go back to a room and fuck somebody or even like into the other room and do it the overnight thing we'd have to work and we have to work out the details and i'm not saying that isn't like honestly that wasn't like necessarily part of my family family fantasy it being like having alone time with a girl is fantasy.
No, and I get that because I do think, you know, and this is another good thing to talk about in the swinging realm, is girl on girl tends to get used as like the appetizer for swinging, right? So it's very common that to kind of get the party started, the girls jump on the bed first and kind of mess around a little bit.
And then very quickly the guys get horny and they jump in and then so i get that like it almost feels like unfinished business like wait a minute i was enjoying that but then you're you know you probably slightly feel obligated to like well the guys are here they obviously want to participate too yeah they don't want just well and like for me i love fucking like all day every day like i don't want the foreplay that's just me my my own like preference so i feel like if we just take guys off of the equation that i'm not focused on that and i can really focus on like exploring a woman and doing all those things why are you teasing that's hot that's hot yeah i guess i said spend the night because i've i don't want it to be rushed i guess that's maybe where that came from i just want like enough time to like do all the things that i want to do take breaks do it again no i i like i like all that okay that's it that's my second one okay so my second one this is so now we're going to get into this is dan tried to be a little risky with his like what i shared is my fantasy you did yeah so my next fantasy and this is going to be a this is going to be a topic where i have to tread lightly on a little bit i think is i would like to do uh a cnc with somebody okay yeah i do and so i Consent, non-consentent consensual non-consent so that was not one of mine but it was one of mine that i wanted to touch on at the end because i'm i am interested in it but i'm also scared so yeah so um so that's something that i was going to talk about so that's really funny that you brought that right so i think we need to be clear what what that is so consensual non-consent is essentially like rape role play right maybe maybe there should be a trigger warning in here for that right but what it means is you want to have that type of experience where you're not somebody else is in control and kind of you know another like dominant like type situation right and there's ways that And I've, i've done i don't know if i've ever really done a full-blown like cnc scene but you know i've delved on the kind of edges of that and it's you know if you you have to consent prior obviously and then having a safe word is kind of the two biggest things right um and and so i think that's a hot i like the idea and in my in my mind if i'm talking about the fantasy it's almost like the girl has consented but doesn't know when it's going to happen or like you know i mean it's almost like and obviously their partner would have to be in play right like so you're thinking like in the middle of the night he like lets me in the back door or something and she doesn't know like she's consented i don't know are you getting jealous yeah well i don't think i could do it to you because it wouldn't well i know that like we don't place that i know my this is just fantasy so we're not like we're not trying to make this happen we're just talking generally like struggling a little i'm i am jealous that you it is not me to be honest like the thought of you sneaking in some girl's back door is like i want to fuck somebody up i'm not gonna lie i don't know maybe we could maybe you follow me i don't know together and you're just there because i want to be the victim oh you want but i don't think i could be the assaulter in that case i think you could no because you would instantly know it was me though well obviously that's part of it like right but i think she needs to know it's you as well so she's yeah she has to know it's you she has to know it's me i feel like she does for it to be consensual well because then she would be scared no but it's almost like what you said like so your fantasy your fantasy is almost could be if you just use your fantasy if you're in hotel room and you're tied up and somebody comes in.
But I knew they were coming in, and that's the difference. And for females, like, at least for me, there's always a fear that something's going to snatch me up or grab me. So, like, you would have to know that this is not real, or at least I would. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't – I've never done enough research into it to really know how that's done but for me i would need to know it was coming like i and then i could you know but i would need to know it was coming because like what if i thought it was real maybe it was like maybe like yeah well that's the well that's why you'd have safe words in some kind of yeah so it would be you would have to me and you would have to have a conversation and you would say okay i want to do a cnc scene right so maybe the scenario is we're going to invite i'm going to have one of our friends come over at night when we're alone and there's nobody else here in the house and just come in and yeah i would have to say it's going to be in the next three days or something like that so yeah so i wasn't like just sitting there like waiting but then if you didn't know which guy it was going to be yeah but but trusting me to know that i would find the right person to do it yeah i could see that i just i think that you would have to know it was coming or at least coming within a certain time period some kind of window yeah yeah that's all i mean that's actually was on my list it's like um like tiptoeing on those like fear right what is that i don't know it's control it's fear it's and it's also the tabooness of it right that's hot yeah it's like scary but also hot and i think that's like going back to the one that i said in the beginning where the guy came in i was scared but i also was trusting and so like merging those two to like it's erotic in a different way if that makes sense yeah well we've talked about you know this whole like pain and pleasure and fear and pleasure you know any when you're hiding heightening your senses that the senses for arousal can be heightened as well so it's it's you know when you get into like kink and you know domination and all these things i think i think all that play i mean you're just you're you're using your brain to trigger you know feelings and stuff and it's it's you know we i think we just we had a conversation with somebody that was in the kink realm and they were saying like how closely tied like the pain and pleasure um senses are and stuff yeah no i agree yeah i think it's super hot i like it you're just worried about where you're gonna be or who or yeah i just don't want to be genuinely scared again that's like me trying to control the control that's kind of like the story of our marriage yeah okay um back to you i think we have time for one more before we break okay so my last one is i want me and you to just go to a regular bar like locally or let's say we go out of town for the weekend not a swinger bar just like a regular bar and sit next to a couple like so none of this is pre-planned like it's just like random and we they are not swingers or that we know of but we just like start chatting with them and like we kind of all lack eyes and we're like we all need to go fuck and we like go right then and get a hotel room and then like fuck and and like so this is a fantasy of like converting a vanilla not really converting because but the truth is is we've never went like people ask us all the time like how do you find vanilla people or how do you find swingers in like the real world we don't we don't we just don't have time for that like we are going to go on a swinger website or we're going to go to a swinger party we're not trying to go to like the local vanilla bar and like you know turn a couple of swingers that's just not something that we do but i do think it would be like hot if it was random like we just sit down at a bar and you and the husband start chatting or me and the wife start chatting and then like they look at us and we look at them and we're like uh we're swingers and we want to fuck y'all and they're like should we do it and they're like should we do it and the husband's like i don't know should we so them part of this fantasy?
Not necessarily. They could be swingers. So we're getting ready to go on the bliss cruise. What if we just wouldn't have found a random couple? That would be hot, too. So part of your fantasy is specific to them not being? Well, part of my fantasy is being at a vanilla location.
Like, if they're actually swingers or they swung 10 years ago but haven't because they've been having kids or what like that's kind of irrelevant i think the spontaneity of like meeting a couple at a bar and then just like we're doing this and then we go straight to like a hotel and it's just like we none of us can keep our hands off of each other it's just like it's like raw like it just has to happen right now yeah no that is hot it is hot it is hot you know like we talked about we'll follow up in six months that one seems like to me it would be like one of the hardest fantasies to yeah it really would be because like i mean you i probably have a better luck of just sitting at a bar and finding a man are you sitting at a bar and finding a woman and that happened um i think that would be extremely hard there's two is one finding a couple that would actually do it and then two the second part of that is then like would they then be drama afterward you know like because a big we always say like we don't a big reason we don't try to convert we don't even give them our number you know like we don't even know their names you know this is just like a one night passion like the universal lines and we just hit it off and we just like go and fuck and we have the time of our lives and then we're like good have a good night we're gone that's kind of like what i'm thinking i mean i i support it and i don't see a world in where that would happen me either but it'd be just one like we keep it on the bookshelf and like if we happen to like it's like one of those ones where like if it happens we're gonna look at each other and be like this is it it's happening like this is yeah right now oh my god and i think some of that like fantasy comes from like the fact that the podcast has gotten i don't mean this like being bragging actually i would rather be the opposite way but the podcast has gotten so big our events have gotten so big so we tend to swing with kind of the same people for the most part because they're there and it's easy and i mean not saying that sounds terrible but you know what i mean like well we just have such a quality friend group that we enjoy playing with and we don't even really get that many opportunities to play we just don't have the time to really sit with a brand new couple at an event and like really even though we want to we see couples all the time that are so attractive and like have great vibes and we really would like to get to know them and do that but the problem is is we're being pulled in so many different directions we just don't have the time so what swinging events look like for us nowadays is we we go to the event and we're hosting all day long right so i'm hosting the pool party lacy's you know going around meeting and greeting people you know we're making sure we're running around making sure you know rooms are right and decorations are right and we got the djs and everything set up for the next thing and then by the end of the night when it's time to fuck it's like okay where are our friends you know i mean like because we haven't really had the time to make those connections during the day with people that we don't already know yeah no i totally agree so i think like finding this like random couple at a bar i think like to to me that's what swinging was for us take away the vanilla bar but like we would go to a swinger party or we would find a couple and hit it off and then and hopefully go fuck and so i feel like that kind of brings back a little of that because we unfortunately we've kind of lost that because our platform has gotten so big it's just harder for us to do that um and if we have like and oh so you think the vanilla portion of that fantasy is so they don't know who we are maybe i didn't think about it but maybe i don't know like because i think we could very easily like so we're getting ready to go on the bliss cruise in november we could easily say okay tonight we're gonna find a couple we don't know yeah a random couple and we're gonna try to we're gonna try to hook up with them let's do it and then we're you know we won't let's not even exchange information like let's just have a random hookup yeah i think we could do that and we could make that happen okay now there is a chance that they're going to recognize us or you know like that's and is is that why you have this vanilla i don't know fantasy i don't know honestly i don't know i feel like it's multifaceted like there's so many layers to it you don't even understand your own fantasy no but i think it makes sense that that would be why where were we we were somewhere locally and somebody was like how do we so y'all have a podcast how do we find it and i was like oh that sounds so nice say it again yeah whisper it in my hand tell me how you don't know who i am yeah and somebody that hates us has listened to this and they're gonna be like these condescending bastards they think they're so cool they think they're so cool but i actually very much enjoy when people don't have now now okay let's let's give a warning to that if you really know who we are and you just pretend like you don't don't do that's fucked up too but um but yeah so people that don't like us are probably gonna talk shit about this but it's just it i'm sorry it's just the truth lacey has a you don't know who we are kink yeah i do what and i said bad you know if you know well if you were to dig into that and i feel this way too is i always have in the back of my head are they just doing this because they're hoping to make it on the podcast or are they just doing this because they they want to shout out or they want you know they want to make it into a tiktok like there is that kind of lingering thought and it's nice if you completely eliminate that yeah so if you don't know who we are obviously that's not what you're trying to do and then it's it seems more genuine then you want to fuck me because you want to fuck me not because yeah i never want anybody to just like fuck me just so they can like get talked about right and people have literally said that yeah they have yeah so i don't know i feel like my fantasy has a lot to do with all of that well i i think we could definitely make the fuck a random couple we might be able to do the fuck a random couple like, we'll just go around the blitzkrieg and be like, do you recognize us?
No, that would be so, like, that is such an assholey thing. Can I buy you a drink? No. That would be such an asshole thing. It would be, yeah. But the problem is, is we've actually done that. Maybe you could do it sly or though. Like, oh, have we met before? Yeah, that's true. And they could be like, you know what I mean? Like, you wouldn't have to be like, do you know who we are? Yeah, that sounds like total douchebag. Like, oh, you look familiar.
oh have we met before yeah and they can be like you know i mean like you wouldn't be like do you know who we are yeah that sounds like total douchebag oh you look familiar have we met you before and if they're like clearly are like no we have no idea who you are you'd be like oh can i buy you a drink yeah and we could even do that with like daphne and i like we could both plan because like we do everything together we're like attached to the hip but we could be like okay guys tonight we're gonna both this is our goal a new whoever maybe we should do a bliss like do the hump day quickies thing and do a bliss cruise checklist maybe yeah y'all let us know if you wanted us to do that we are totally off subject we are down a rabbit hole but if you don't know hump day quickies do does like a list before and like a major event yeah and like they have to do like you know 10 things each and at the end of the cruise they talk about the things that they did or didn't do um it's like make out with a stranger uh kiss somebody with a disney tattoo um like it's so random like well it's kind of but it's also kind of fantasies right i mean it's kind of it is and it also come up with a list of our fantasies and see if we can make some of them happen and it gets you out of your box you know it forces you can um have sex with party mark be on mine yeah if i if have sex with chelsea because that is a fantasy of mine it's a fantasy i told him i told him anyways i text him i was like hey what did i say i was like i needed his help with like a few like business things and i was like i need help with these three things can you help me and like one you know the first two oh you put it on the list yeah the first two were like legitimate requests and the last one was like and fuck dan lacy chelsea and dan or chelsea and mark fuck dan lacy on the bliss cruise so I've put it out there so we're off to off subject but anyway maybe we'll do that if y'all want us well one if you want me to fuck Party Mark and then two if you want us to make a list oh poor Party Mark I know he doesn't even know what he's getting himself into I know I'm sorry well I think now is the perfect time to take a break and hear from the partners and sponsors of the swing nation podcast and then when we get back i'm gonna reveal the fantasy i'm probably most concerned like nervous about sharing the one i'm most nervous about sharing i'm gonna reveal that when i come back i'm nervous because we're gonna talk um some general fantasies and then how to talk to your partner yeah all right guys we'll be right back we here at the swing nation podcast are proud to partner with promessant listen guys we've all been there you're having a with a hot chick, maybe a few hot chicks, but you need to kind of delay the time before you pull that trigger.
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We love our sponsors our sponsors we do lacy loves all our sponsors any any sponsor you want to shout out shout out this week we have been using a lot more lube lately we have been because we break lacy too much yeah yeah i feel like he's been let's be lacy's been having a lot of sex lately i have've been using more lube as a preventative message to not break lacy my vagina will get like oh i mean that sounds oh my god that sounds terrible that i just said that for a lot of people to listen to me but you know ladies you know a lot of sex can it affects it down there um so i love promescent aloe vera lube is my favorite um that they have and i honestly never really thought about lube before i mean i just think we kind of like spit on it and move yeah a little spit rub it in yeah yeah or lube was just lube i thought you know use it for like toys and stuff we didn't use it with each other yeah um and i really like the aloe vera lube i have ever since we started um so if you're looking for a lube brand that that's just one i never i don't know i just never thought about lube and i really like that one yeah so go to the swing nation dot info and click on the promescent banner and go get you some lube on there will be a discount code there for you yeah can i say one thing before we get back on track because i was just thinking before the break i said i don't want people to sleep with me because we have a podcast and then i said i want to sleep at party barn and i was like wait a second people are going to think i just did the same thing that i didn't want people to do to me i don't think you're overthinking that probably but let me just say we had an opportunity there with them and we missed it because i was not feeling good my vagina was broke just like because i didn't use enough lube from the weekend and we were exhausted it's been a year probably a year ago and so ever since then i've regretted that decision I also think he's hot he's also very good with his hand so i would like would like to see that in action on me we get it you want to fuck party mark because you're into him not because he's party mark yes okay just making sure everybody knows that i totally i get it i think everybody else got it oh i don't i don't think they did okay okay but you've clarified it now everybody knows l to fuck Party Mark.
Not because he's Party Mark, because she genuinely wants to fuck him. Yeah, I do. I want to genuinely fuck Kelsey, but because. Chelsea, not Kelsey. Shit. Same difference. No, it's not. Oh, okay. All right. Anyway, moving on to fantasies. Yeah. Are you ready for this fantasy that. I'm nervous. I don't even know how I feel about sharing it? I'm nervous. You're nervous after consent, non-consent? How does that make you feel? I'm nervous. You're nervous? Yeah, but I can just make you cut this out if I don't like it.
I think I have a fantasy, and I don't even know if i want to follow through with it but having sex with a transgender woman oh okay yeah we've talked about this yeah we've talked about this and i don't know and the reason i don't i guess it makes me question my own sexuality if i'm being completely honest and people maybe are going to hate on us for even saying yes but it makes me confused you know i mean yeah? Yeah. And we've talked about this some. Yes, we have. We have. And so, I guess, let me hear your perspective on it, your thoughts on this.
Well, I know more about this fantasy, so I can, you are, can I say what you are attracted to? You're attracted to femininity. And we have seen quite a few transgender women that are extremely feminine. And so that is what you're attracted to. It does make me question your sexuality a little bit, but not in a I'm judging you kind of way. Just like, is he as straight as he claims to be?
That kind of of way but i also think that like those women are beautiful that we've seen um they 100 look like women they are women so i also can kind of get it so yeah no yeah and that's the thing so it's funny we've had i think we've talked to several other couples about this now we have so it's really not that like why i'm like oh my gosh this is a this is a fantasy but let's say it on the podcast to the open to everybody is a little a little different and yeah and here's it like i'm not like when i say i'm questioning my sexuality i i very much identify as a straight male and i i also you know the more we've talked about this i'm still of the belief if i want to have sex with a transgender woman i still feel like i'm a straight male yeah in my mind and people you know i don't really want to get into the whole political debate about transgender you know ism and all that and i know there's people that have all kinds of feelings on that but my feeling is um i'm attracted to transgender women or some not all but some transgender women and because they look like attractive women and yeah and and some of them are super attractive um and i think there is some you know and this may be a little controversial too there maybe is some taboo-ness there to all that to where it's different it's maybe not you know socially society acceptable it's something that's a little you know different but you were also like i've known you you're just dirty you're just naughty so i think you're just like you're drawn to things that are out of the norm like that turns you on and i think i think that's where maybe we you know i think we even need to tread lightly there right because you don't really want to fetishize people and make them feel like yeah i just i'm just attracted to you because it's a fetish thing and not because you're actually i think think if you were seeing that out, you were like, I'm going to find a transgender woman to fuck because that's something.
You know, like, I think if you were doing that, that would be fetishizing them. But I think if you just go about your life and you happen to meet somebody and you hit it off and that happens, I don't think that's, you know, making a fetish out of it. Yeah.
No, I mean, some that were at secrets yeah who we were on the dance floor with yeah and i thought at the time we thought they were you know biological women yeah and then we saw them later and they had um you know penises they weren't completely naked walking around secrets yeah still super hot but we're like oh oh my gosh like didn't even realize that yeah yeah and so i think seeing them and you know i've seen them in porn and stuff like that and obviously been attracted to some but then seeing them in person and still feeling that way it's like oh that's probably something i could do and i think honestly like before i probably wouldn't have done it just because like i wouldn't have wanted people to question my sexuality right so to me it's almost like is growth right like yeah okay i think i could do that and i think i could say that i did it and maybe even saying this on the podcast now is part of that growth and i i still feel comfortable in my sexuality and and again not that there's anything i almost part of me almost wishes i was a bisexual male in some ways because i think would be more fitting for our platform and i could i could be more of an advocate for that that community and i could be like yes i'm a proud bisexual male and i'm fighting for that but i'm just not attracted to dudes like i'm just not like yeah hairy muscler dude dudes i'm not attracted to yeah i'm just not it's not it doesn't interest me do you think i mean like again i want to tread lightly but like do you think if you got into the like position and there's a dick there like like would that not like is that not not i don't know i think i see what you're saying yeah but i mean there's been plenty of dicks plenty of places in our experiences over the years and again maybe that's part of the you know maybe a couple years ago comfortable i would have been nervous about that but now we've had so many i mean we do dvp which is two penises and one vagina quite frequently you're not going to get much closer to a dick than that you know what i mean so like and i'm completely comfortable turned on love it i think it's great so i don't think i would have any issues with that yeah but you never know until you're there you never know until you're there yeah that's but i do think it would have to be like what you said it would have to be somebody that with very feminine qualities that would for me to be attracted to them and want to yeah engage with that i'm proud of you for saying that i wonder how people will respond to this podcast it makes me a little nervous and i was thinking about it you know because we were talking about this earlier and i was thinking it was one of the things that kind of popped in my mind i was like yeah i probably just i'll just leave that one alone like just you know i'll share something else or come up with something else and i was like no fuck that like this is what our platform is about right like there are millions of other people i'm sure there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of you know transgender porn on on there's plenty of people that are into that that just won't admit it so like somebody should be able to you know i can say that and say i i as a straight male, but I am attracted to transgender women and I would totally hook up with one or play with one if the opportunity arose.
I do think you're right that I wouldn't go just looking for that because it almost doesn't seem right to do that for some reason. It just feels icky a little. Right. Like you're, it's almost like the unicorn hunting thing. You know what I mean?
It just feels like you're, but if we encountered one and got to know them and and you know and we it was a good fit we're vibing totally would be into it yeah i like it i'm proud of you for saying that how do you feel about that i think i don't know would you be into it with a threesome i don't know because i think that that would be hot actually i don't know um it would be i'm not like drawn towards that like that's not a fantasy of mine but i would definitely want to watch or be a part of it yeah i would want to be there and see that yeah yeah okay but i'm not like turned off by it if that's what you're asking like i'm not um i'm not like oh my god no way i'm not that way at all i'm Because i do know that you have again like what we said before that's like a fantasy or a role that i can't fulfill so i would i would like to see you have that experience and watch or be a part of it all right so let's go over some common fantasies ours are a little more outside the box than what you just google like popular fantasies in america oh i don't think you're gonna have sex with transgender women these are some of the i googled it or cnc or i googled it just for funsies uh 10 most common fantasies this is for men okay are they in order are they no no okay it just yeah i guess it is because it's got percentage taking part in oral sex i mean i did men not normally do that i don't know um sex with two women obviously sex with someone you know other than your spouse so swinging that's obvious what so i would say i don't i don't i didn't understand the first me either either but so sex with two women or sex with somebody other your spouse so both of those are non-monogamy yeah okay sex in an unusual place that's hot watching two women have sex definitely hot and also something that happens very commonly in non-monogamy ejaculating on your sexual partner sex in a romantic location okay yeah those are some of the common ones that is the 10 most common for men which i thought was kind of like funny yeah so i got so vanilla so i had a different this is a different reference this is healthline.com um and it's the same kind of thing like the 10 most um common and it lists number one is multi-partner sex yeah um and then uh number two it lists power controller rough sex which i think that is probably up there right that's that whole bdsm thing that's even some of that like we talked about cnc and you talked about you know a stranger that's that whole control dynamic i think ours fall into that um novelty adventure and variety this is like like you said sex in an unusual location and i don't even know what like why is that so much fun like it is though i love it being naughty being taboo like oh you're not supposed to have sex yeah in the in your backseat of your car at walmart or whatever you know in the woods on a walking trail hiking trail you might get caught or something like that uh non-monogamy is on this list is one of the ones uh taboo or forbidden sex which all of yours falls in that yeah and then this one this is why we didn't erotic flexibility oh that's do i which you you nailed that one yeah okay if you don't know lacy's very flexible and she can bend in all the ways i can it's pretty hot and people don't realize it until they're like having sex with me and they're like and then she just folds her legs in front of them and they're like how fun yeah and i don't realize that other women can't do it because i've always been able to do it all right so if somebody's interested in some of these um fantasies whether it's you know sex with multiple people or or sex in the backseat of the car or in the woods uh how do they how would you recommend talking to their partner about this so swingers help.com this is where i found this and honestly these can also be applied to swinging like if you would like to have a conversation yeah um and like you said earlier they're all very simple but if you don't have a relationship where you can openly talk about things, these, these can be hard conversations.
Um, so, uh, I read this article today is a good way to start it. Like, Oh, I read an article that says the top fantasies are this. Yeah. All right. Well, how do you feel about that? Yeah.
Maybe you read this healthline.com yeah threesome like that's that's a pretty common um fantasy 80 yeah so like i read this article today about how having a threesome can enhance your marriage have you ever thought about that like that's a good way to start that conversation because say you're a man and your wife is like fuck no i'm never doing that um or like what if your wife says i've always thought about being with a girl you know Thank you.
is say you're a man and your wife is like fuck no i'm never doing that um or like what if your wife says i've always thought about being with a girl you know so it can kind of open up a conversation right it's a way to not and we've always talked about this if you come to your partner and say i want to fuck somebody else you're starting that conversation on the wrong they're immediately going to jump to defensive they're immediately going to feel um like they're not enough or jealous or whatever the case may be so approaching it from a different perspective Yeah.
on the wrong they're immediately going to jump to defensive they're immediately going to feel um like they're not enough or jealous or whatever the case may be so approaching it from a different perspective and saying oh i read this article and it says this what do you think about that it's a much more neutral ground and they're not going to jump to the defensive yeah as much yeah no i agree um the next one is i want to know more about what turns you on And I've always said that I think this is a good one. I learned this from Daddy Mike. This is how him and Daphne started swinging.
She had always been a pretty sheltered person and had never had really explored any fantasies. Preacher's daughter. Preacher's daughter. She shared that on a podcast before, yeah.
Yeah, so he went to her and and was like what are some fantasies that you've had and then it was his job to make her fantasies come true that's what he you know he gave himself that job and i think that's a really hot way of making it about your spouse and not about who you want to fuck just as dan just said because anybody like for me as a woman if my husband comes to me and he's like I want to fuck five girls well obviously I'm going to be like I'm not enough I can't do you know and it takes a lot of growth to realize that you are enough and it takes even you heard us in real time be jealous and we've been doing this for years so I think making about your partner and less about you is very important okay the next one is by the way i had this hot dream last night that's hot it's kind of hot like now that could trigger jealousy though 100 right because you were dreaming why are you fantasizing about other people or why are you dreaming about but what if you say i had this hot dream last night that we met a girl at a bar and took her home yeah maybe it like includes your partner right yeah that's probably a safer way to do it yeah don't lie though like i mean maybe hopefully you really have the dream but you had a hot dream that you sat on jc's face i did oh you just told them you know you're gonna listen to this well i did jc i had it and this is a true story i had a dream that we were you already told tiktok so he wasn't there oh so he might have heard but i had a dream that we were in a playroom and like he was playing with somebody next to me and i was like you walked up to her and you're like bitch you're on my no you're on my seat you're in my seat did not i was like basically like can i have a turn like i was like.
And you walked up to her and you're like, bitch, you're on my seat. No, I did not say that. You're in my seat. Did not. I was like, basically, like, can I have a turn? Like, I was like shy and cute about it. Okay. But I didn't want to tell him because I didn't want to like, I don't know. I didn't want to put pressure. Yeah. So you told TikTok instead. It seemed safer. But that is true.
So, like, that's a way for me to tell Dan, hey, I mess around with jc there we go we just did it i've known that for months okay so there we go but that's a way you could tell your partner i'm flushing um another one is what did you think about that movie which funny that this is brought up because that is how life of spice decided to non-monogamous. Yep, DJ Life of Spice and Life of Spice. They watched a movie. They watched a movie and then it sparked a conversation. Yeah, and then they just started hooking up with single people or their friends and stuff.
And then years down the road, they realized they were swingers.
I wanted to share something with you for a long time, but I've always felt super embarrassed do so i think i've done that with you what i don't know like maybe the the guy the the random stranger person yeah i think but i mean that's why do you think that's a comfortable way to say something to someone like because it well i think if you say yeah you're essentially telling your partner like i know this is taboo but right yeah like i feel uncomfortable so it kind of puts them as less likely maybe to attack if they know you're already insecure about what you're sharing with them yeah i don't know half about this one what are things you'd never try maybe it just opens up the conversation that's a weird approach let's see what it says it's good to know what lines your partner would never cross understanding the reasons for which those limitations are so so essentially like you're you're sneakily asking your partner what they'd never do just in case one of the things is what you're about to ask them to do maybe i don't know if i like that it's a little sneaky yeah remember that time when so reflecting on experiences in which you tried something new and it turned out well so yeah so there's some ideas so basically you need to talk to your your partner about it and if you're going to talk to your partner about it do not say i want this or i need this or this is what i want don't make it about that and make it about exploring your fantasies together or even better making about exploring their fantasies uh because likely if you explore their fantasies your fantasies are going to come up along that that line those conversations um and then find safe ways to do that if you so desire and that's really's really what this lifestyle, in my opinion, is all about.
It's what me and Lacey's relationship is all about. We shared some pretty vulnerable fantasies with you. From blindfolded sex in hotel rooms to CNC to dom-sub to all kinds of things. Me and Vanilla Swirl. That needs to happen. Yeah. Okay. So this podcast is coming out on Thursday, tomorrow, Friday. We're going to be at the Red Room in Nashville, Friday and Saturday. Saturday is sold out.
But if you're in the area, if you're in the greater Nashville area and you want to come party with us Friday night, tickets are still available on swingersociety.net um this weekend we'll be releasing tickets for our next red room event so we got another event in january at the red room in nashville so go to swingersociety.net buy those before they sell out because saturday is going to sell out again i guarantee it probably even faster this time than the last time um so if you want to party with us in nashville definitely go book um right now tickets are on sale for our attempted takeover in louisville kentucky and that's on swingerside.net it's a brand new club it's a beautiful club it's large can hold like 450 people something like that we're bringing in some some djs we're gonna have our 360 camera um we're gonna have a bunch of our friends from tiktok and and social media there with us so definitely if you want to party with us in louisville go get those tickets swingers society.net and then as of i think yesterday there was like 20 rooms left for our march secrets takeover so our forever young party uh we're gonna do a naughty school girl night we're gonna do swinger homecoming right so you can get dressed up you can go back back to your high school glory days at secrets there's really not a better place to do that yeah um but book your rooms i'm telling you people were trying to get rooms from us you know we sold out like five months in advance for our last party we're still five it'll probably be sold out by the end of the month i would imagine yeah so if you want tickets go to swingerside.net and book all that stuff and we look forward to seeing you guys yeah the only other one i want to talk about is hito so we haven't really had a second to really talk this through but we have actually partners with topless travel they are known for like basically throwing the best parties they do the bliss cruise they do takeovers at hito all the time desire so we have partnered with them this year to take a group to hito it's may 11th through the 18th party mark speaking of will be there he'll be our host it's going to be awesome we had the best time year.
It tends to be a smaller group because it is a more pricier vacation. So we get a lot more quality time to get to know people. It's just seven days is a lot. It's just more relaxed when you're not so rushed. So if you would like to book and go with us, please go to swingersaudy.net. It's listed there. We would love to have you. We're super excited. It's going to be a good time. Yeah.
You cannot have a bad time at hedonism in jamaica no it's gonna be great yeah oh we already got a bunch of people booking that so i think it would be a pretty good group this time all right anything else that's it well i appreciate you sharing your fantasies with not only me but the world same uh and uh i think we need to we need to check some of those off yeah we'll start with the bliss cruise one we'll just find a couple i like that i think it's a good that and the girl one i think will be the easiest too though yeah all right and then we need to find we need to find a sub though that needs to can we at least make that one happen maybe all right all right guys appreciate you um listening to our fantasies and uh feel free to share your fantasies with us.
Send us a DM. Send us an email on social media. Leave us a comment. I'd love to hear what everybody else's fantasies are. Yeah. All right, guys. I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes. Come join the conversation with us and other Swinger content creators on our Swinger Society Discord server.
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