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easy that's right if you want to party with us and the other faces and names that you know from social media and tiktok head on over to swingersociety.net can't wait to see you there hey there pineapple people and welcome to the swing nation podcast we are your hosts northern guy and southern girl and we have a a very special episode for you um we we brought back dr store and she is here to talk to you about all things squirting all things squirt all things squirting don't know how old things squirting yeah i guess that's what you'd say that it's like a hot thing in the lifestyle it is a very it is interesting because you know uh so a few notes first is dr store has agreed to come on our podcast regularly and update us and inform us on all things medical um kind of related to sexual health and sexual medicine and just any random kind of questions we might need to ask a doctor, which we very much appreciate that, Dr.
Storr, you taking the opportunity and the time out of your busy schedule to do that. Oh, for sure. Absolutely. But so we had a phone call with you last week and we're kind of talking about what we're going to talk about this week.
And I was kind of like, well, I have this this question keeps coming up and this is everybody keeps talking about squirting um is that something that you'd be comfortable talking with and you're like yes i love talking about squirting i have a youtube on it it's a whole thing let's get into it um and then by chance in our the discord server which dr store has now joined as a part of and we we appreciate you on doing that um kind of a conversation on squirting kind of started on its own in one of those um channels and threads there so i think this is the perfect time to talk about this and uh we are excited to get into it absolutely i honestly i love this kind of thing it's so much fun talking about squirting um yeah i honestly i get questions about this all the time and it's like dan's thing it's like his party trick now yeah why is that I don't know it's like so we it started i guess we just talked about it on this podcast yeah and it's almost now with newer couples that we've i don't know if they listen to the podcast i don't know how it's become people now come up to me at clubs and events and things and said like my wife's never squirted she's interested like would you like try to help her do that or something this is it's probably happened four or five times well you've had lines of girls before well that was one time it's not that was one time um but yeah well i will tell you we've got a we've got a friend with the nickname scuba steve if that helps you out you're not the only one who's getting put in that position that's hilarious yeah so gentlemen this is not a you know if it's a if you learn the the buttons to push to do this it's not necessarily a bad thing yeah you can become a kind of a party trick i think oh for sure um yeah so we're gonna get into squirting so full disclosure i think we've talked about it many times lacy is is in that category yeah she can do that trick um have you always been able to do that no no it's something i in my 30s um i was in a vanilla relationship and but he was really good with his hands and um one time it happened and we didn't talk about it like it just happened and like i felt it and we just like pretended like nothing happened and then the next day like i think i went on like you porn or one like i needed to see what happened to me like you know i guess i loved lived a pretty sheltered life i'd never really i'd heard the term squirting but didn't really know what that was and so i started looking it up and i was like i think this is what i did you know i wasn't 100 sure but of course we didn't talk about it because it was very very vanilla um but then i was able to do it to myself after that like um it didn't happen all the time but it would happen occasionally and but then once i entered the lifestyle it happened a lot more because for me um i squirt when I'm being extra naughty and extra, like, like relax.
So like if I've had a couple of drinks, um, it happens for me. Yeah, that's for sure. And then Dr. Store, I don't know if you're comfortable sharing this or not.
Are you, are you a member of that, uh, that club to yourself or I, I am indeed a member of the squirting club um yeah no and honestly it wasn't something i was able to do for a very long time either um i think you know sexual repression from a really conservative upbringing whatnot but same yes i started squirting about yeah i think i started squirting about six months ago oh wow and i feel really fortunate that the first person that made me squirt my husband. Cause if it had been somebody else, it may not have been so cool with them. Um, but yeah, I squirted with my husband first.
And then after that, um, yeah, I'm kind of like, I have to be in the right zone. I have to be sufficiently hydrated and I have to be a couple of drinks in usually. Yeah. It's like, I have to get out of my head. I have to be relaxed and having a drink or two kind of helps with that. Yeah. I have been known to squirt completely sober though. I have to, to be honest with you, but I feel like it happens more often when I am in that state. Oh yeah, for sure. All right. So I think that gets us a little bit ahead of ourselves. But my first question for you, doctor, is is this real?
Is this is this a real is there people that just don't believe in this flat out? And this is probably more complicated of a question. And I guess I'll leave it as real. But I think we're going to get into probably my next question. So let's start there. Is this real? Yeah, I will. You know what? I think think it's kind of like santa claus when you're at the right season is santa claus as a human actually real since there shouldn't be any children listening to this no but the the spirit of christmas is still santa right yeah so yes squirting yes, squirting is real. It's legit. Okay.
Well, that almost confused me more because now I thought Santa was real. Oh, God. It threw me off in my... Dude, I'm so sorry. But you saying that, it almost makes me think that squirting is not real. We just believe in it and it's not. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, no. Squirting is totally real. It is the spirit of sex. And when the spirit comes out, it's like a thing. All right. So then the squirting is really legit. There was actually medical studies on it. I know I'm, I'm all in jest, but beyond joking is there, there are medical studies on squirting and it is real. Okay.
And then I guess always the follow on question to that. And this is probably the question I would assume you get asked the most, is, is this pee or is this not pee? Yeah. And you would think that's a really easy yes, no question, but it is not a yes, no question. It's actually a lot more complicated than you would think. So the difference between squirting and what we would call coital incontinence, which is peeing while you're having sex. It is both what is inside the liquid that's coming out and partially where it's coming from.
So men, when they ejaculate, we know where that shit's coming from. The shizzle is coming from a couple different places, and we know, like, lots of good data on that. There's only actually a couple studies on squirting, but all of them pretty much agree the only place in the female genital tract that has enough fluid to store for such an event as squirting really is the bladder. So I guess it depends on what your definition of pee is, but for the medical literature and those nerds of us that are doctors, pee has a particular set of substances in it. So your pee is not just water.
That's why it smells like pee. It's because it's got other stuff in it. And so it's got stuff like urea and creatinine and a couple of other chemicals in it those chemicals are in p they're also in squirt but at much much lower volumes the other thing that's in squirt that is not in p is psa psa is prostate specific. Now, before you blow your mind. I was just going to say, I thought females don't have prostate. Women have a prostate? I'm no doctor. Oh, fuck. Women do have an analogous organ to the prostate. And that's been a great debate over many, many years.
And honestly, if you asked other sexual specialists, they may have three heads. But there's more than a couple of documented articles that the periurethral glands in females are analogous to the male prostate and can secrete prostate-specific antigen. So in the studies that were done on squirt, it is dilute urine with PSA in it. Okay.
So it sounds like it's not all pee, but it's all not all not p it's some kind of p hybrid that's mixed with other chemicals that are coming from the body somewhere is that yes is that like i like p hybrid is that well but then my next like how does more you're saying it's diluted so how is more where's the more water coming from to get it diluted like okay so that's actually a good question and i'm not sure that i have a really good answer for it um one study yeah no one study was done with with self-proclaimed squirters that they actually measured the bladder with an ultrasound so we do bladder scans all the time in the hospital and whatnot to see if you're emptying your bladder completely.
We use an ultrasound to do that on your belly. So they measured the bladders before and after voiding and empty bladder, and then the women would self-stimulate. And I'm not sure how someone could manage to do this, but they would stimulate while ultrasound was being done. It's going to be a little distracting. Maybe they get off on being watched. Yeah, I mean – Lacey could totally do it. On being watched and – I don't know. I they get off on being watched. Yeah, I mean – Lacey could totally do it. On being watched and with a medical device on their stomach.
But yeah, they actually watched the bladder rapidly fill and then that's what came out during the squirt. So we – I'm sure it's just coming from the kidneys, which is where urine would normally come from. But it's a rapid filling of very dilute urine into the bladder. And we don't, yeah, like I said, there's, the water's coming from the kidneys just like your urine does. It's just super dilute. It doesn't have all of the chemicals in it. It's mostly just water. Okay.
So, again, I'm going to, if I'm hearing that correctly, what I'm hearing is females who stimulate themselves can somehow fill their bladders rapidly. That stimulation in some females will cause their bladders to fill more rapidly. Is that what I'm hearing? Yes. Okay. So, oh, you're getting into a good question I didn't even think of. So part of this, look at you, part of the sexual response cycle in females does involve the urethra, which is the tube that you pee from.
So in a lot of women, the urethra itself, like when you stimulate the urethra, like while you pee, sometimes women will tell you that while they're peeing, they get a little bit of a sensation of a zhuzh. Like they're like, ooh, maybe if I pee a little harder, it'll kind of, you know, get me going. That part of, yeah, right? That part of the sexual functioning cycle seems to be involved with the bladder filling and not filling. So when a woman's aroused, they're more likely to actually have a full bladder than when they're not aroused. Well, I know I have to pee.
So even if you pee right before, yeah. I always have to pee after sex. You have to pee during sex? Well, after and during. Yeah. If it goes long enough during sometimes. Yeah. But so, okay. Yeah. No, I would have to say I don't know enough about the male sexual cycle, which I totally should look into this, to know whether or not males typically fill their bladders while engaging in erotic, sensual play. But women do.
We tend to fill our bladders, which is why you can continue to squirt over and over again, even if you haven had anything to drink okay so then okay so it's at least it's we're calling it a pee hybrid so how do we know this isn't it's a sexual thing and not like you you call i don't know the name you said but how do we know they're not just accidentally peeing themselves like how do we know it's not that yeah well i i mean i would say that there's a lot of people that would say probably they are just peeing themselves, but technically coital incontinence would be leaking throughout the sexual cycle because the urethra doesn't have the appropriate mechanism going on to keep it from leaking.
So typically people who have coital incontinence or leaking during sex leak throughout sex and not just in one big gush around the time of orgasm or with appropriate stimulation. So we're pretty sure that they're different. The other thing about squirting versus coital incontinence is that squirt does have PSA in it and coital incontinence does not. Right. And so that's somehow I'm assuming tied to the arousal of it, the buildup. It is. Before squirt, yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Those periurethral glands squirt out a fluid into the urethra as the bladder is emptying that dilute urine hybrid. Okay.
So my next question, and this is something we get asked a lot. So, all right, squirting. I'm going with squirting's a pee hybrid.
I i'm going there there is p in there but it's definitely tied to arousal and there's other stuff too that's you know that you've said science proves it's not just not just p um so not just p is this seems to be a thing that not everybody can do but from my understanding most females have the same parts or you i think it's like almost like i'll let you answer it but for me as a female it almost seems like a learned behavior like some women don't realize they can do it but they actually can they just i think we stop it we because like i have control over it like for the most part sometimes i can't stop it but you know like if we're me and you are just having sex in our bed at home and I can feel like I'm gonna squirt I'm gonna stop it because I don't want to sleep and squirt but like if we're at a swinger party and it's not my bed and we're just having you know a lot of fun there's a I will let that just happen so I mean do you see what I'm saying like I think women can do it do it.
I just think learning those, like, what that feeling feels like. Yeah. I guess scientifically, is there anything that's stopping some women from doing it? Scientifically, no. I think all women probably have the capacity to squirt. I actually really agree with Lacey. I think a lot of it's more psychological. Oh, 100%. If you're not in the situation where you feel super comfortable and super aroused, maybe not getting the right type of stimulation, it's definitely not going to happen.
But you can get all the right stimulation and have that sensation of like, oh, oh, I'm going to pee, I'm going to pee, and then you fight it. You're not going to leak. Yeah. Yeah, I can stop it. Yeah, and the sensation of I'm about to squirt and the sensation of I really need to pee are, like, identical. So, yeah, it's – and you can kind of tell when it's going to come. And like Lacey said, you can kind of feel it.
And it's sort of like, okay, I'm just going to kind of, like, clench up my pelvic floor real quick and kink off my urethra and make sure that I don't squirt all over the place because, indeed, nobody likes squirt. No, no. It's not a fun time. We've done it many times.
I don't squirt all over the place because indeed nobody likes no no it's not a fun time we've done it many times it's not that bad it's worth it sometimes we've done it we trust us we've slept in many escort beds but we try not to if we do you guys do you not have a squirt blanket so no i don't know why we don't have oh my gosh we need one actually it because I was thinking about that earlier today. Like, I was telling some of our friends, I'm like, why don't every one of us have one?
But what we usually do is when we go to, like, if we're going to be in a hotel, we usually always get two beds. And so, we have, like, a squirt bed and then a non-squirt bed. And we try to keep it that way. But, honestly, there's no reason why we don't have a squirt blanket.
Like need three to be honest with you you should you totally okay so we have a squirt pad i am not my husband's only partner that squirts so and sometimes it's like you know once you get rocking and rolling i mean i hit like orgasm number three and i can't make it stop correct yeah so yeah so yeah no you get google squirt pads oh i know you have is like animal print it's lovely yeah yeah there's tons of them it keeps the bed clean and we've used them we've had friends that have them but for some reason we don't ever think about it until we're like squirting and then we're like we need to order one of those and then we get back home and then forget so we need to do that yeah because i will tell you perfect christmas present dan you got this correct i'm gonna need a sixth tote to bring to hotel takeovers now we have so much put the blankets in thank you for that yeah seriously no we do need that that's true we absolutely do that and this kind of goes back to the you know uh you saying it's a diluted you know form of p is i i don't notice you, you know, when we do all this stuff, I don't notice, you know, we've had people squirt on white sheets before and it doesn't look yellow.
It doesn't really stink. It does. It seems different to me. It doesn't smell like urine and it's typically clear. Yeah. It's because it's very dilute. When they did the measurements between normal urine, like the pre-void and then the postsquirting, the amount of chemicals that's in that, like the stuff that makes it smell like the urea, was infinitesimally smaller than it is in the regular pee. Got it. Mm-hmm. Which is why it doesn't smell like pee. Which is why it doesn't smell like pee and why it's clear on the sheets, yeah. Okay.
So now know it's a hybrid pee we scientifically any woman should be able to to do this um is there a tried and true method is there a abc steps to to squirt well as a female as soon as a guy touches me i can either know if he knows how to make a girl squirt or not does that make sense because like some guys either got it or they got it or they don't. I mean, it's like a combination. I don't know what you're doing. Well, if it's a combination, though, it's a learnable, right? It's a teachable. Oh, it's totally learnable.
But, like, some, yeah, but there's certain guys, like, I don't know how to describe it. You either got it or you don't. I don't know. Some guys just know what they're doing. Other guys can, they can make you cum and it's hot and sexy, but there's just a different feeling when you squirt. I don't know. Uh-huh. Yeah. I don't know if I would say there's like an ABC. And I'm sure some women squirt with different types of sensations, but like the most common way that women are able to squirt is with internal vaginal stimulation. So I know everybody always asks about the G-spot.
If you want to sound super smart in front of your friends, it's not a spot, it's a zone. G-zone. Yeah. If you're looking in the literature, they call it the G-zone. Dr. Grafenberg, God bless him. So the G-zone is actually this little area that's highly debated in the literature, but most of us agree that it does exist, at least in the sexual functioning world. And it's an area kind of on the top of the vagina. So like the anterior vagina closest to your tummy area.
And what most of us think, and especially kind of what I think, is it's the confluence where the urethra actually runs under the backside of the clitoris. And this would now assume that we all know what a 3D clitoris looks like. And I can guarantee we don't all know what a 3D clitoris looks like. I don't know. I mean, I'm pretty familiar with the clitoris. I don't know if I could visualize a 3D model of it though. What do you think the clitoris is? Where do you think it exists?
Because I can almost guarantee if you've never looked up 3D clitoris and you don't know me, you probably don't know what it looks like. I mean, I know when I – so when I engage with the clitoris, it's kind of the upper – if you're the little man in the canoe, it's the top, the front of the canoe. I love it. You know, that's how I've always. So that is the head of the clitoris, which is analogous to the head of the penis. But there's a whole part that's analogous to the shaft of a penis. And that actually goes down and sort of creates like a double wishbone underneath the head.
And it goes down into the large lips or more into the small lips um so the labia minora and then into that area in between where the opening of the vagina is and the opening of the urethra is that whole area there have you ever noticed that swells i have noticed when a woman's getting aroused that's the clitoris too that's that's very good i think That is the buried part of the clitoris that you can't see we might need you to drop some 3D images into discord I will happily do so we can point people in that direction if you really want a 3D clitoris you can order those online online.
I own four clitorises, clitori. Yeah, I have one in each of my rooms and then my own personal one, of course. So yeah, the 3D clitoris is a really – it's actually a fairly large organ. And when it's aroused, like when it's engorged, it's almost the same volume as a male penis.
So maybe not your male male penis dan but the general male penis i'm not sure if you have or have not seen my penis so i don't know how to i don't know how to take that she's on discord she probably has i'm on discord i'm on discord i eat honestly i actually don't think i've seen a picture of your car but someday it's there you know it's there it's there it's out there it's out there it's there all right my cock aside back to how to squirt all right so stimulate the g-spot yes all right so when i when i tell people how to do that what i tell them is you put i usually i just say two fingers now some females might only be able to handle one for but generally i try to insert two fingers um and do almost like a come hither motion right so like um maybe a fingertip or two in yeah and then kind of a come hither like curl your fingers and that it almost feels to me like it's like a rougher spot like that's right kind of there um and you can kind of there's a little area where you can feel what you're actually feeling there that quote-unquote rough spot um we that's probably the back side of the urethra because the urethra has to come underneath the clitoris.
And where the urethra crosses the clitoris, there's a little bit of an area where it feels sort of rough because you can actually feel the clitoris or excuse me, the urethra through the vaginal wall. So yeah, and it's usually about one third the depth into the vagina. So the average female vagina is approximately 10 centimeters. Sorry for Americans. That's like, I don't know, four and a half to five inches, something like that. Um, but the, the G zone is about three to three and a half centimeters in there. And it's, it's actually part of how the vagina forms.
So yeah, so it's going to be probably, you know, unless you've got really huge hands, gentlemen, it's going to be just shy of your second knuckle on your pointer finger. That's exactly how it is. And so if you get – yeah, two fingers is typically easier because you actually have to stroke it pretty aggressively, which what you're actually stroking is the urethra. And where the urethra crosses the clitoris is where that sexual functioning part of the urethra is located.
So yeah, it's kind of like this little zone, a come hither motion fairly rapidly and maybe a little bit firmer than you would typically finger somebody. So fairly firm, fairly rapid. It will give almost anybody, all females, even if they're not aroused, the sensation of needing to pee.
And then really it's up to the gal to relax enough to let it happen yeah so what what i've noticed is for lacey and then several of the other women i've got to do this is do what you're saying do that come hither motion rapidly with some force uh you know obviously you don't rely on her feedback on that to what that force should be um and like you said it does get engorged and kind of aroused and you can you know feel it like and do that um and then when there it seems to me like when they're about to orgasm I usually try to pull my fingers out and then just work their clit and that seems to be because it's almost I know with like Lacey and several of the other females it's like they can't do it with my fingers in them.
That's almost like preventing them from doing it. Or I don't know if maybe by touching that spot, if you're saying the urinal tract is right there somewhere, maybe you're pinching it off or something. So it seems to me that rapid pull your fingers out, hit their clit, that's usually what the trigger mechanism is to get them to squirt in my experience. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, no, that totally makes sense. I think it's probably more like a hyper stimulation kind of sensation.
So with your nipples and men will attest to this too, if they like their nipples played with, there's a point at which it stops being fun and starts being too much. I think there's probably the same type of situation in a lot of women's vaginas. Like, okay, that feels really good. I know what you're doing. I know what's going to come. But if you don't stop, it's going to start being not fun anymore. So I actually squirt better with penetration. So like penis, fingers doesn't matter, toys, anything. I can squirt without penetration.
And I can actually squirt without anything ever having stimulated my vagina or clitoris, oddly enough. Um, so you don't necessarily always squirt just with orgasm. Lacey said she can squirt from watching me make other girls squirt. I don't know if she's ever done. No, I said, okay, so I think that this is totally off subject, but I think that I can like, once I start, come, I come really, really easy.
So like once I've came like like several times if i'm just sitting there and like watching dan with someone else i can almost like i feel like i'm coming even though no one is touching me like it's almost like me my like visually i'm so turned on that i can come and squirt without even being touched by watching that is absolutely i joke and say i'm a psychic comer it's like i can feel it's you're a reflex orgasmer yeah it's like it's like but i have to get it's not like if we haven't had sex or i hadn't been played with and that starts happening i that won't happen but if i'm like hyperly turned on and super sexual and then, you know, everybody around me is playing and the women are coming, it's like almost like I can feed off their energies, if that makes any sense.
Yeah. I think you prime the pump and you don't have to do as much effort to get things going. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. I've got one super sensitive nipple and I've been known to orgasm and squirt just with nipple stimulation. Wow. So yeah, that was actually one of the questions that came up in Discord was whether or not you could squirt without orgasming. I would say from personal experience, yes, but I don't have any scientific data to support that. Again, if you start looking up squirting in the medical literature, there's not just a ton of literature articles on this.
There should be because it's such an interesting topic. But it's maybe somewhat difficult to study and somewhat taboo to study. I don't know. Yeah, I was going to say. There's oodles and oodles of literatures on males coming in case anybody wants to know. Yeah, I was about to say. Shit tons. That's so crazy that we know everything you could possibly know about a male coming. But then women, there's just not a lot of information. That's kind of crazy, but not surprising. I can totally blow your mind in even a worse direction. Okay.
So the entire anatomy of the male penis has been known since like the 16, 1700s. We figured out the entire 3D model of a clitoris like 12 years ago. not surprising yeah okay i'll be a subject it was an australian recently figured out the entire 3D model of a clitoris like 12 years ago. Not surprising. Yeah. I'll be a subject. It was an Australian researcher, a female, of course. Yeah, you'll be a subject. They can study me. Of course. I would like to be one too. We have a friend.
I mean, I think it deserves some study because one of my big bugaboos here, it's like there is only one organ in the entire human anatomy that's only purpose is for pleasure and that's the clitoris that's it males their penises do other shit our clitorises are only for pleasure yeah makes sense and we know very little about it we have a friend who can squirt um we'll give her a shout out her name her name is southern puddles that's what everyone calls her southern puddles and she can squirt clear across the room so what's the difference see I don't do that I I squirt but it's I mean like she gets some air on hers like why does she do that compared to like me who does that you know I mean like I squirt and I can squirt a lot but it's not a stream like that is that just different women different thing you know I don't know how you describe that yeah it may be different women different things I think it's probably also the amount of stimulation that's happening for instance um you know as Dan was saying with you kind of he has to come out and then get the clitoris before you'll squirt.
A lot of times people that are squirting across the room, it's during the penetrative part. Like they get to that hyperstimulation and it's actually pleasurable. So I have been known to hit walls when I squirt. And it's only happened a couple of times. But when it has happened, it's been with a serious fingering on somebody who knew what they were doing. Yeah. And I also know that like we have several friends that squirt and they're almost dehydrated the next day. Like we've had one friend had to go to like an IV bar and get, you know, cause she just felt so weak the next day.
So I was just curious, I guess that kind of goes back to like, you're just emptying your body and then add that on top of having some drinks, you probably already hydrated yeah that would be another thing i mean like if a gal's really wanting to try this and they're like gung-ho i'm gonna figure out how to squirt you gotta hyperhydrate because if you don't and you're already nervous on top of not having enough fluid in your bladder it's just probably not going to happen and agreed you don't want to get dehydrated doing this.
So if you already know you're a squirter, lots of water before you start drinking the alcohol. Yeah. So because you really will feel kind of crappy that that fluid's coming from somewhere and it's it's depleting the resources elsewhere. Yeah, for sure. All right. I think with that, what we'll do is we'll take a little break and hear from our sponsors. And then when we get back, I want to go over, I think we talked about how the male can stimulate the female to make this happen.
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Appreciate you sticking around and listening to our sponsors we love our sponsors um all right so we talked about what the male should be doing in the parts of the the female body he should be uh stimulating or i guess gender neutral whoever whoever is the one trying to make the the female uh squirt yes because girls can make girls squirt it's very hot when that happens uh but what should um i guess the squirt the squirty be doing relax i know i'm not the doctor but i'm not the doctor here he's all on this so yeah there's a couple of different things number one they should be hydrated we talked about that the break, but yeah, relaxation is a big one.
If you've got somebody who knows what they're doing, like you're with Scuba Steve or with Dan and you're like, you know that they're hitting the right spots and you're still not getting there. It's probably because you aren't relaxing. Kind of just getting out of your head, not being worried about whether it's pee or not, now that you know it definitively is not pee, being able to relax and allow for it to happen is one big thing. The second big thing is something called a reverse Valsalva maneuver.
So if you've ever done a Valsalva maneuver and you know what that is, they're also known as Kegels. So you want to do a reverse of that. So um a kegel is when you're tensing up your pelvic floor so reverse kegel or reverse like pushing in a way yes so it's it is pushing to some extent so when you do a kegel um and if you don't know what a kegel is you've never done one um shame on your gynecologist for never teaching you how to do that but if you sit on a toilet while you're peeing and you stop your stream, that is doing a Kegel is. You've never done one.
Shame on your gynecologist for never teaching you how to do that. But if you sit on a toilet while you're peeing and you stop your stream, that is doing a Kegel. Now, I wouldn't recommend that you practice that way because that will eventually lead to dysfunctional voiding. But if you can kind of get an idea of like, okay, when I stop my stream, that's the muscle that I'm contracting, then you can do Kegels outside of that.
Doing Kegels helps increase the tension tension of the pelvic floor which helps you not leak when you don't want to but when that muscle is nice and tight and doing it it's supposed to do and you cough and sneeze you don't leak but when you come if you can't relax you won't leak either yeah if you're wanting to squirt it's not going to come out so instead of doing a kegel you do Kegel or like reverse Valsalva maneuver. Valsalva maneuver is the same idea where you increase abdominal pressure and contract your pelvic floor at the same time.
But it's sort of like the sensation of you sit down and go to pee and you relax the pelvic floor. Or if you're not able to like relax in that sort of setting, imagine you're trying to poop because it's the same muscle that you relax.
That muscle surrounds the rectum and it surrounds the urethra as well as the vagina so you actually kind of have to push into it yeah yeah for me it totally does i don't know about dan but yeah you're right it is very much it's like a not stopping but also pushing feeling if that makes sense well no and that's like you know we've coached a few girls now through this it's like the two things you hit on were the absolutely the most important thing one relaxing because if you can't if you're clenching there's just nothing like that guy can be rocking hitting every button in all the right ways and it's just if you're if you're fighting it and you're clenching down on it it's just not going to happen and then secondly to that is yeah that almost like push or bear down on you know like release and bear down push whatever you know uh however you want to describe that but uh yeah letting go uh so to speak so that that it can happen and i don't mean obviously i'm not a female so i've never i've never done this but uh it seems like that's once they, once you can kind of get that figured out, cause every time we've, we've got somebody to do it, it's like, like you flip a light switch and then it's like, some of them are like, I can't not do it now.
Like, it's like, it's, it's, it happens every time now that, that I figured out what, what happens. Well, and I guess my next, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Okay.
I was about to say, I think one of the reasons that it continues happening after that is because there's not a lot of data on this but just you know having known a lot of people that squirt um the squirting tends to make the orgasm last a little bit longer and maybe a little bit more intense and so i think there's probably a positive feedback there like your brain's like oh oh that felt even better than usual maybe we should do that every time yeah yeah and that be my next question. And I've heard, you know, people that have never squirted before and then do it.
Some of them have told me that it's like, I almost feel like I've never had an orgasm before now that I've learned how to do this. Like I, like I've almost like, I was like, you kind of said, it's only, they felt like they were cutting their orgasm short. Yep, absolutely.
You almost have to give into the orgasm and let it just let it float yeah and if you squirt with it it tends to make it a lot more intense and i think it's partially because that fluid passing rapidly through the urethra is hyper stimulating the clitoris from the other side the side that you can't see i think that's good i have a question yeah i'm shaking my head is really what it is well i think we should also talk about what happens okay because in the lifestyle what happens if your husband can't make you squirt i think that's important to talk about because a lot of women can't just like for instance i don't just typically squirt at the house like when we're having just like regular sex it takes me I mean I can but it takes me being in this like hyper sexual sexual like atmosphere to really squirt so I worry about the women who really want to do this but their husbands are really really trying at home and it's just not happening I think that's something to to talk on dan what do you think it's from like a male perspective no no i agree with what you're saying yeah it seems like there you know it's almost there are a lot of women that are interested in this and from you know hearing you guys talk about it's an extended orgasm and there's lots of pleasure in it you know it makes sense that if they've kind of heard this before that it's something that they're seeking and want to And I think also from the male's perspective, we almost like celebrate this.
And I think, you know, for me, it's like, because it's a positive feedback, right? Like, like if I see you squirt, it's like, I know I'm making her feel good because I'm getting an actual physical reaction that is almost like telling me I did a good job, right? Like I'm it's positive feedback for me.
But yeah, know we've we get this question a lot that you know well having sex in clubs and orgies and all that like what if that's better and what if it's you know your wife likes that more and they never want to you know like if they have good sex with somebody else does that mean they're going to leave you and i think you know we kind of compare it to like that's the super bowl that's's that. You know, I mean, like it's OK that normal Wednesday sex isn't the same as an orgy with 10 people at a swingers club. It's not supposed to be the same. Right.
It's a whole different level of stimuli that that you don't get at home with normal sex. And that's probably a lot of why we participate in this lifestyle, because we're seeking that we enjoy that.
But I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison to say like oh if i if i can't you know if i don't get the same exact level of enjoyment if i enjoy it too much at you know at these clubs with other people that must mean my significant other isn't pleasing me enough at home or something like that i don't think that's to me that doesn't make any sense well i understand that but a lot of times what we feel make sense. Yeah. I was about to say, I think there's a big line to be drawn between what you appreciate on a physical level and what you appreciate on an emotional level.
So, you know, I make love to my husband. I fuck other people. Yeah. So, and it's not that I don't enjoy them and that we sometimes, you know, have great relationships. You know. I've never been in a full on poly situation, but I've had partners that I've had feelings for and we've had feelings back, the whole shebang. But there is a difference between I'm being hypersexual right now and enjoying my sexuality and just like letting loose and what you guys were calling Wednesday night sex, which is the bonding with my husband and the emotional attachment that happens with that.
So I think, yeah, drawing a line there to be like – again, as Dan was saying, this is one of the reasons we do this. This is one of the reasons we like the lifestyle is because it allows you to be in that hypersexual state without any fear of reprisal or stigma or whatever. Right.
And it sounds to me like it sounds to me like if you can't squirt at home but maybe you can with other people at a club or or whatever it might just be that you're hyper stimulated in that situation and that's what pushes you over that line to be able to do that no i totally agree and i don't think there's any shame for anybody in that i don't think to me for me i love being naughty i love being i love doing things that i'm not supposed to do like in parentheses or quotations whatever you call it but like so to me being at a swingers club and doing those things like makes me squirt more makes me do these things more because i know that i'm doing the naughty thing right yeah right i also think you know one of the points you, Lacey, about sometimes needing a couple of drinks in, don't normally have a couple of drinks before Wednesday night.
Correct. Yeah, correct. And, you know, like we've played with couples and the wife has never squirted. But as soon as like the husband starts playing with me, he could totally make her squirt.
And I would say nine times out of 10, if a couple, like if the if the couple like if she can't squirt it's usually mental for her because the husband has all the abilities to do it she just doesn't understand how to do it and doesn't know how to turn off her mind and just enjoy herself so I you know I think that's important that women realize it or in men too I think it's important like if your wife is not squirting that it's probably like you said like all those years of being taught that we shouldn't be these sexual beings and we hadn't been all of a sudden we grow up and we can do whatever we want it's hard to turn that switch off or switch turn it back on I think there's also something to be said for having communication between the squirter and the squ, the person who's making the squirting happen and the person who's doing the squirting and making sure that they're communicating with each other.
Because if a woman's like, yeah, I really want to squirt. And the husband's like, OK, I'm going to do this. And they do all of the right things. And the woman's like, I don't know why this isn't happening. And then somebody who's like totally a stranger is like, hey, let me try and make you squirt.
She fuck here it is the communication with the husband could be hey look it's not because you weren't doing the right stuff because he literally just did exactly the same thing it was just because it felt more naughty because it wasn't you correct or yeah i was more hyper stimulated because we were at a club or you know it's i think a lot of times the communication there could be a thing.
And also, you know, like Lacey, you were saying sometimes, you know, if you know that the guy knows what he's doing, being a squirter, I think it could also be to our benefit to help teach men who are wanting to learn how to do that. I have had a couple of guys are like, okay, you know how to squirt and you're a doctor. So help me out with this. And, you know, I'm like, all right, put your fingers in there. And I'm like, okay, no, a little further down. Do you feel that little spot? They're like, oh my God, there it is. It is kind of rough.
You know, it's like they, all of a sudden, like a light goes on and I'm like, okay, now this is the motion that you do. And you show them that can kind of come hither and you do it really fast and kind of teaching them like, okay, this is the right spot. This is the right movement you're supposed to be doing. And, you know, honestly, like when I'm teaching somebody, it's not like I'm going to squirt because I'm thinking about whether they're doing it right, which is not what you should be thinking about when you're trying to squirt.
But I can tell them, okay, yeah, you're making all of the right movements. You're hitting the right spots. Now go try it on, you know, Jane Doe down the street. No, yeah. And that's – we've done it with, you know, a few people now.
And usually it's like we have the husband right there or a lot of times he he's participating or helping or maybe we're coaching him through it yeah and to me i don't know that's one of the things you know we call a lot of people don't like the word play you know when it comes to the lifestyle they don't i don't know they think it's a juvenile term or whatever but but i do like it because it's like that's what you're doing is you're you're exploring you're playing you're figuring out what feels good what doesn't feel good and it doesn't have to be this awkward weird like when you're just relaxed and joking and having fun but then can kind of like touch each other and make each other feel good and talk through that and you know explore that with a group of people or you know you know that to me that's just fun like it's just a good time and you don't have all this weird awkwardness about it you know yeah honestly it's much easier to be in a group of you know eight or ten people that you're all friends with and be like hey i would really like to try such and such and if it's not something that your partner's comfortable with somebody else may be willing to do it yeah like i i like being submissive in sexual situations on occasion and my husband will not dom me to save his life he it's just not part of his personality We'll be right back.
They're like, I like being submissive in sexual situations on occasion, and my husband will not dom me to save his life. It's just not part of his personality. My husband is the sweetest, most thoughtful, most caring kind of guy and wouldn't hit me even if I asked him to and told him I was enjoying it. So like, you know, I can get him to spank me a little bit, but the idea of doing anything else is just a complete turnoff for him.
And so a lot of the when we go to the parties I know who the doms are and I'm like hey grab out your paddle so it's kind of nice in those type of situations to be able to explore like I didn't know I liked to be submissive until I had the opportunity to be submissive and then I figured out that I enjoyed that no comment Dan wants to spank you we're gonna have to hang out at the same spot sometime guys all right moving on I even have my favorite paddle I'm not gonna lie what were we talking about squirting I'm all I don't know squirting yeah well we're talking about like playing and whether or not playing was like an okay term i love the term play because i mean that's what you tell children to do you're like go play with your friends you know which is really go explore and have some fun and you know get outside and i think the idea of adults playing seems juvenile but i i agree i like i think we still play i mean like when i go out on a hike and i you know get down on my hands and knees and start digging through the dirt with my kids i'm playing right and i i think that's a completely appropriate term to be using with adults in the lifestyle when a lot of people are really experimenting for the first time with stuff that they've always wanted to do some people just need to relax like it's it's okay like you know i mean like i think we i think we worry way too much about terms and if we're saying the right thing is that offensive is that okay you know it's like we're just having fun yeah we call it whatever we want to call it but we're just having fun with our friends uh okay so the last question i have to you and we touched on this a little bit um dealing with the the mess the liquid are there any health concerns are there what are the best you we not we talked a little bit about blankets i have a question okay.
Okay. Can I add to that? Can I, so as a female, I feel like when we, when I am squirting more, I feel like I tend to get UTIs more. Is there a correlation between the two, do you feel? I wouldn't say a correlation that I know of. I would think more likely to get a UTI after squirting would be more likely to be related to the dehydration that follows. We know being dehydrated increases your risk because there's more bacteria floating around and also more of those chemicals. Those chemicals make a really good medium for bacteria from other places in your vulvar region to grow. So stuff like E.
coli is really the classic UTI and that comes from the rectal region. Hence the reason you're supposed to pee after you have sex because the penis pushes bacteria up into the urethra. So after squirting a bunch, if you get dehydrated, you have a better culture medium in your bladder. And if some bacteria crawls up in there, it's got a nice cozy place to grow. So I wouldn't think it's specifically the squirting itself that's the problem or the dehydration that's the problem in that type of situation. Okay, perfect. Okay, sorry. I just thought of that. That was my own personal question.
But yeah, I mean... No. That's what I'm here for. So as far as like, are there any like medical concerns about cleaning up squirt? No, not that I know of. I don't believe that there's any data on whether squirt could potentially contain stuff like gonorrhea or chlamydia. I have no clue. I would suspect not. Gonorrhea and chlamydia both are obligate to a human cell to live in. So it has to be passed from cell to cell. And I don't think urine would be able to pass any of those. Trichomonas maybe, but I think it's highly unlikely.
You can see trichomonas, gonorrhea, andydia in urine but i don't think you can catch it from urine again don't quote me on that not any data that i'm aware of um so yeah i would say honestly there's probably not much to the cleanup really other than you know having a squirt pad because it's so much less messy um you can damage your uh your mattresses with a lot of squirt you don't want to get a bunch of fluid into your mattress mattresses already are dirty at baseline there's billions and billions of bugs in your mattress so oh gee don't want to don't want to give them extra yeah do you want to get into exactly how gross mattresses are let's not do that nobody's ever going to get into a mattress again but yeah it's it's always a good idea not to have moisture inside of your mattress so basically we need to relax we need to have a few drinks and we need to buy a squirt blanket that's what we've learned exactly that's what we've learned today yes that's all that we and hydrate hydrate yeah sure okay so i think that that i think we we covered squirting about as much as you can cover squirting now i know you do have a few questions that people asked you from the discord and i want to get to that uh but i have one question before we get into that and you know we have about yeah 15 minutes 10 15 minutes left so uh but i've noticed we're in a lot of lifestyle facebook groups um and there's a lot of only fans creators that are also parts of those groups and there's all these rumors rumors swirling around the internet about some kind of std sti outbreak that's affecting um the porn community or the only fans community are you tracking this do you know what that is do you have any insights to that or is this news to you totally news to me i'm not surprised um yeah outbreaks happen fairly often uh yeah i honestly i don't do just a ton of social media discord is like the only thing i'm actually following right now because i think i said this last time social media and my mental health don't really like each other very much um but yeah i there's one thing that's been kind of popping up really recently, just in general, that's drastic increase in, in numbers in the state of Texas, I know for sure, which is syphilis.
So, but let me, let me look this up really quick. Oh, STI epidemic has worsened in the porn industry and operations are ceasing. Yes.
This is thing yeah we've had quite a few people like message or share it and yeah it's a thing and i think you know people get confused because they start seeing stuff like that and they think you know oh there's a huge sti outbreak in the swinger community and i think the porn community is a little different because a lot of porn stars don't use protection but they also do have a very regimented testing regime but obviously if you know those people are getting tested i think most of them is like once a month and some of them it's like every two weeks um so you know obviously they're quick to catch that stuff as well um but i was just curious if like what exactly as to what those std if you knew what stds or stis they were catching and you if we're using condoms, is that something we don't really have to worry about or kind of what the thoughts were on that?
So the most common STIs that are passed around from people who aren't using condoms are gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis. Syphilis, again, has been at low rates for a long time up until about three, four, five years ago. It started kind of getting a resurgence. All of those are, by the way, really easy to treat, syphilis included, but syphilis sometimes kind of flies under the radar because if you aren't paying attention to the initial symptoms, you might just think you have the flu and then all of a sudden you've got secondary syphilis.
It's still easy to treat, but it can cause a lot more trouble. At this point, I'm looking to see, I can't find any specifics on which STDs they were, but that would be, my guess would be gonorrhea and chlamydia and probably after that syphilis. Okay. So no real other same things. All those are all protected for with condoms. Right. And we talked and they can go back and listen to our last episode to get more in depth on, on that stuff. All right. What questions did you get from the discord, uh, over the last couple of weeks? Okay. So I've gotten, I've gotten a couple, um, just, just a handful.
So not given any names or detailed information out. One of them was about the squirting and whether or not you could squirt, even if you weren't orgasming. And I believe the answer to that is yes. Although there's not a lot of like medical literature to support that. One of the other ones that I thought was a really good question that I actually get a lot in my office and had never really thought to put it out to the general populace.
Most women, when they have surgery inside of their vagina, typically hysterectomy would be the most common one of those, are told not to put anything in their vagina for a while. And one of the guys actually said his wife had just had a hysterectomy and wanted to know if it was just penetration or if they couldn't do any stimulation either. So the reason we tell you not to put things inside your vagina after having a hysterectomy is because the top of the vagina has stitches in it.
The vagina is a moist location with a lot of bacteria in it and you don't want to be swirling that bacteria around and pushing it up into the stitches. So it's an infection risk. You don't want to be pushing bacteria from the outside up on the inside. The other thing that you worry about with the stitches at the top of the vagina is whether or not they may give with excess pressure because as the tissue is healing, it's not as strong as when it's completely healed, and it's definitely not as strong as it was before the hysterectomy.
So those are the reasons that we tell you not to put things in your vagina, but that does not preclude orgasm. So stimulation externally, as long as you're not putting anything up inside the vagina at the same time. So like, don't even get your tongue up in there. But if you're wanting to do like oral stimulation, manual stimulation, or any type of like clitoral vibrators, as long as the orgasm isn't uncomfortable to have, it's not dangerous to do.
So now I would always say being the doctor here, talking to a whole sea of people that I don't know, always ask your doctor if they have a different opinion. But there is no preclusion to orgasm after hysterectomy as long as it's not uncomfortable to have. So that was a really good question. Would that apply to somebody that had a baby as well? That would be the same. Yeah, absolutely. Same thing. Yeah. You just want the cervix to heal up.
Um, you also want after a baby, there's also some other things going on, like all of the loose, the ligaments are loose and you're more likely to, um, you know, have injury to the pelvic region shortly after having a baby. But yeah, it's the same idea. It's totally fine to do external stimulation and have orgasm. It's just no penetration. Okay. Good to know. Yeah. The only other thing that I can think of right now, there was several other questions. The only other one that's popping into my head right now was a gal who was asking about the color of her vulva.
So, you know, she's said it was darker than she would like for it to be and was interested if there's anything safe to do to reduce the coloring of her vagina or her vulva. There are all sorts of things over the counter that you can use to like whiten your vulva. Um, I think they're all bunk and I think they're dangerous. So I'm going to give a quick rundown. Um, vulvas are different colors. Everybody's vulva is a little bit different. And I think wanting your vulva to be lighter is kind of like wanting to make black people white. It's, it's offensive.
Um, your vulva was made that way and you should like it. The other, beyond just being somewhat offensive, but the fact is most of the things that you would use to whiten the vulva are actually fairly caustic chemicals and they can cause chronic pain issues. And then you'll end up in my office with a chronic pain problem that's going to be difficult to fix. So chemically induced vulvitis is not fun, nor is it easy to treat. So I would say love your vulva just as it is. It was the one that was given to you.
If you ever think that the color is changing or there's like a darker patch or something like that, that would be something to bring up to your gynecologist because it is not unheard of to get skin cancer on the vulva. We know it's not exposed to the sun very often, except for us, you know, fun swinger people, but you can't, yeah, I've actually, I've seen a couple of skin cancers, including a melanoma on the vulva.
So if there's like a, yeah, a dark mass or like a lump or a bump that looks like a different shade, or you have areas that are white patches, those would all be good reasons to ask your gynecologist about changing colors on your vulva.
But if you are just wanting to light your vulvar skin no need to and probably not a good idea so i have a question just like piggyback off that what about bleaching your butthole it's like i was literally thinking like i like kind of laughing seems more common in the lifestyle just people i've never really heard of a lot of people doing it but it definitely is common in the lifestyle and i noticed um not long long ago, we were at, I didn't even know where you bought that stuff.
I've never done it personally, but we were at a sex shop and they were selling stuff like in a little jar by the cash register. And I can remember thinking, I don't know if that's safe. If I want to buy something in a jar by a cash register to put it in my bowl. I don't know. That just seems kind of scary. So I guess that's my piggyback to that. I would say same idea on that end. Yeah, there's all sorts of anal bleaching things. It's probably a little less dangerous to be bleaching your rectum because you're much less likely to accidentally get some up inside unless you force it up in there.
Whereas on the vulvar region, it's going to get in your vagina whether you want it to or not. But whether or not it's actually like a great idea, probably not. Most of those things are more likely to be caustic chemicals. So just love your butthole as it is. And your vagina. Love your vulva and butthole in your vagina just how they are. Exactly.
And I have a very good friend, Jennifer Gun gunter and she basically says he should be or she should be excited to be able to be down there in the first place and if they don't like it fuck off yeah i agree so i agree don't be self-conscious your evolve is beautiful your butthole is beautiful it's just how it is i love it no i agree and that's you know yeah one of the things about the Discord is, you know, people are sharing more and more and more.
And I think, you know, that whole body, you know, I've seen several people that are like, man, it feels good to share pictures and get all these compliments and people like celebrating my body. I never thought anybody would do that. You know, so I think that's having an environment like that where people can be sex positive and get good feedback on their pictures and things. I think it's good. It's good to have that. Yeah. That actually reminds me of one other thing that one, one person said, because talking about feedback about yourself.
Um, I think we are typically more likely to be really hard on ourselves than other people to be hard on us. Like when a guy is giving you oral sex, the last thing he's thinking of is, Oh my God, her fault is a little darker than the last gal. He's, he's not thinking that. Um, and one of the things that I was actually asked was whether or not porn was good for people and like for men specifically, um, you know, because, and it like, I was trying to like get into the nitty gritty cause it was a woman who was asking and I was like, is it bad for men at like a certain age?
Are we talking men for a certain reason? And it kind of boiled down to like, she was thinking that men, when they were comparing themselves to porn actors, were like, okay, my penis is obviously smaller than that. And heaven forbid, if the woman doesn't like it. And I think that is just another symptom of us being so much harder on ourselves than on other people. I mean, if your penis is a little on the smaller side and somebody still wants to play with it, they're not thinking about how little it is. And if your penis is really huge, I don't want a baseball bat in my vagina. No offense.
I feel bad for those guys. They're never going to get to fully penetrate somebody. Yeah. Lacey's had butt sex with other people besides me more than me because for that very reason. Your penis is too big for butt sex. There definitely are benefits to different sizes. I agree. Your penis is too big for butt sex. Exactly. There's benefits to both directions, you know. So I think it's, you know, I think people are definitely more hard on themselves and more self-conscious of things that they probably don't need to be than is really warranted.
Because, you know, if I'm giving oral to some lovely lady, I am not thinking about the size, shape, or color of her vulvas. And I see them all day long. I love it. Agreed. All right. Well, I think that was an excellent episode. I appreciate all of your vast knowledge on squirting. And we'll have to come up with another fun episode.
Yeah, so if people want to ask her a question where do they go yes so we can answer it here yeah sure so um i know that some people have been asking just like direct messaging me through discord um i have my own little like chat room i guess it's dr stower so um feel free to throw a question into there i'll probably answer it for you there and pull it onto the, um, onto the podcast. If it's a really good one, if you come up with like a really fantastic question that I'm like, Oh my gosh, we can make a whole episode on that. Then, you know, good for you. We'll tackle it down.
Um, so you can ask me in there. I think some, um, destiny also had maybe put up some, um, you know, like prompts that if people wanted to message through that, instead of messaging me directly, you can go that route as well. Um, I would say the one that I got about whether or not you could squirt without orgasming, that one was a chat that came up in one of the other rooms and somebody just like pinged me to it. Um, and was like, Hey, can you, yeah, can you tag in on this? And so I kind of read through it and, you know, gave a very brief answer there.
And I was like, I'm just going to tackle this when we're talking about squirting already on the podcast. So, yeah, if you see something that you think could use my input or that I might be interested in kind of giving the scientific part on, yeah, just shoot me a message and I'll take a look. Okay. And then for people not in Discord, you have a website up now, right? The one you almost disclosed last time? I did. You've got the URL.
So url website now it's i have the url and we actually have a website that's like you can go to um it doesn't have just a ton of information and stuff in there yet but it's got some links to some podcasts i've done and some um blogs and some of my youtube videos the good ones that have to do with lifestyle um so that is swinging safe.com awesome swinging safe.fe.com awesome yeah and i you know what we actually i may have my husband add a little area in there where you can you know ask the professional and we'll throw it onto onto a podcast awesome i like that idea yeah i mean to me you have an email or something maybe do you give out an email there as well uh i i don't know if my husband put an email link on there if he didn't we'll get that too all right and you can all always email the swing nation at gmail.com if you have a question for dr store and we will we will relay it to her um until she gets all those features up and running and we we appreciate you being here having having our own uh kind of in-house doctor to ask all these questions through has been very beneficial over the last, what, it's been over a month now, a month and a half.
So we've had you. So appreciate you coming on the show again. And we look forward to the next conversation. Awesome. Sounds great. Thanks, guys. All right. Thank you. I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Bye. If you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us, leave a five-star review wherever you're listening. If you want to see more of our content, you can find links to Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans, and more in the show notes.
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