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We we are your hosts northern guy and southern girl and today we have a special podcast episode for you we do it was actually my idea the swing nation podcast here we go um i'll just mix it's not tuesday toss yeah i get it i'm mixing it up love it um so i i am a part of are you laughing because i just completely just ignore me we're moving on um i follow the swinger reddit page i've talked about it a few times on here to be not like to be nosy or anything but a little bit for that no honestly maybe originally yeah but really there's some good information it kind of i feel like it kind of keeps me in the know of what people are asking what's going on i think it's good to like for podcasts like what are people into what are they what are they asking yeah sure yeah anyway so um their podcasts on the Reddit page comes up, and a lot of people don't like podcasts on the Reddit page, and I was reading some of the comments, and it kind of dawned on me.
Before we had this podcast, I would listen to a few episodes of other people's and i can remember thinking these people must not encounter the same people we do because all of their experiences are like rainbows and unicorns and everybody's hot and everybody sticks it hard and like nothing goes wrong i can remember like even saying that to you it just seemed these perfect worlds. And then we got into the podcast business and we started podcasting. And in the beginning, you know, we weren't, we didn't have a huge platform.
I mean, we were getting one, but we didn't have this grief of friends that kind of went everywhere we went. It was, it was easier.
And as things have gotten gotten larger and larger and larger it's been a little bit harder for us to tell those stories okay be more specific tell what stories okay like so let's be honest we're in a playroom with a couple and he can't get hard right and you're hard as a rock and you're fucking the shit out of his wife and he's that way they're struggling that couple is our friends that hangs out with us all the time they go to all the parties with us they're like a character name almost on the podcast everybody knows who everybody is you see us you see them in our tiktoks you see them hanging around us and And then come Thursday after an event, everybody tunes in to hear what we say.
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you see them in our tiktoks you see them hanging around us and then come thursday after an event everybody tunes in to hear what we say i care about my friends and i don't want to be like so and so couldn't get hard and it sucked while i was sitting in the corner while dan was fucking the shit of his wife having so much fun like that hurts me to think that i'm gonna hurt my friend right and so we found as like as the podcast has gotten bigger a lot of times if something happens we sometimes touch on it but we don't go into a lot of detail we'll glaze over yeah we might say somebody struggled or there was an issue or something but we don't like we're not mean we don't pick it apart yeah we don't point people out we don't uh right we don't belittle people we don't focus when when things happen and i think anybody that's been in the lifestyle more than a week probably has had these types of experiences where something just doesn't go right maybe you know somebody gets in a fight or an argument maybe somebody's dick doesn't get hard maybe you know whatever somebody's feelings got hurt because they didn't get invited to a certain orgy maybe our feelings got hurt because so and so didn't invite us to an orgy all these things happen in these environments at these events we don't focus on those things um and part of the reason we don't focus on those things is because we're talking about our friends we are and they be like i said before they become characters and people know who each other is you know so and when it all boils down we care about our friends and our friends feelings more than we care about yeah podcast ratings or reviews like we we want to be authentic and we want to tell true stories but it's very hard to like tell stories in real time as people are listening and people can identify people because we care about these people like this podcast is fun and we make a little money off of it it doesn't like pay our house payment or anything like that but our friendships are matter matter more yeah and aren't the people's feelings so with all that being said you know i'm reading these comments on reddit and i'm like they're right we've kind of fallen into that i mean i don't think that we make it all rainbows and butterflies but i do think that we don't highlight the negatives right so do you think then we're feeding into this inauthentic like are we building the lifestyle up to people maybe that are listening that's not realistic because we do and i think we've you know explained this we're omitting some parts of experiences to save people's feelings to save people's hearts to probably preserve friendships um and i think we what i've tried to do what we've tried to do is balance that out by you know we have podcast episodes that are all about um you know erectile dysfunction all about performance anxiety so it's not that we just pretend like that doesn't exist um we've had podcasts about stds and stis of course we've never said like oh you know johnny you know texted us and he said he had this he got this sti you know we don't do that but we've talked about you know having friends that have you know tested positive for sti you know so i think we try to protect people yeah but also try to talk about some of the issues and the negativity i think we've talked about you know couples getting in fights in playrooms we've talked about the things that happened we just don't necessarily when we tell a specific story about specific people we might if something had happened at that event we might omit talking about that thing right because we just don't we don't want to draw attention we don't want to you know sometimes these people are hurt already we don't want to make them more hurt so i think that's fair is it to me it seems fair as long as we're not pretending like these things don't exist correct but it's fair to protect people's identities and and not focus on the negativity of some of these events yeah i agree but to play devil's advocate we have talked about stds on this podcast like literally every commercial says when you go do you to your doctor does he swab your?
But yet we told a real true story about us possibly having an STD. It was negative, but we told an authentic story. And everybody and their brother went and ordered STD tests.
and all of our friends text us and we're asking questions so like i think people resonate more with like a true authentic story than they do just like a general information i got you so if it comes across as just this is for educational purposes people kind of ignore it but when there's characters and names behind the experiences i think so i think so um so with all of that being said um we have shitty experiences and so and maybe this is like once a quarter we we talk about i don't know once every six months or so we pick a few um some of these so we basically went and picked six stories and i've thought of like two more just since we've been sitting here so depending on time we can add them in um of times where things just went crappy we've told some of the stories already so if you have listened since day one you might hear some of them we are still going to protect our friends i didn't in these um we're telling them as general as we can but we're not going to tell you names we're not going to tell you the characters or where we were at the events but we are going to talk about when things just went south and what we did and how it was handled if at all you know right um because we want to share stories and to be honest the when things go crappy those are actually the best stories because people want to hear that you know well it's also the i think the most growth happens in those moments as well right when everything goes great it's like oh that was fun great awesome but there's not a lot of growth from that because you didn't you didn't have to confront issues you didn't have to communicate you didn't you know i mean i think when mistakes happen that's truly when a couple um can grow from an experience yeah no i totally agree okay you want to get into these which one do you want to start with let's let's go with uh our first experience okay this is our first ever experience to get i mean together me and you kind of were you were a unicorn i was a bull we fucked the shit out of each other um but that wasn't really a swing together yeah so let's explain how this started off you had connected with a couple on this lesson assuming and i guess you had plans to meet up with them.
I did. And then I decided I was coming into town. Right. So you texted me and was like, do you want to go with me to on this day? Like, how do you feel? Right. So this couple had been a couple I'd been talking to for a while.
think you know even back then my schedule was pretty hectic and so it took us a while to line something up and then it so happened you know the week before or two weeks before we kind of decided we were going to try to be a thing yeah and so i felt bad this was a hot couple they were both attractive it seemed to be a good vibe and a good connection and so i i guess i tried to be like have my cake and eat it too or like can i can i make both these things work Thank you.
it seemed to be a good vibe and a good connection and so i i guess i tried to be like have my cake and eat it too or like can i can i make both these things work well and their name was stag and dixon so in hindsight like looking at it now i think that they were probably more like a hot wife type situation so maybe this shouldn't have been like our first experience maybe but i wanted to be cool and i was like i mean and you send me a picture and they look you know and just with a quick glance they appeared attractive well-dressed you know like they had their shit together in life you know so i was like okay you know and it wasn't like we're going to fuck them it was like do we want to meet out for drinks and just see what happens and i was like okay so we did and we got there and she was just as adorable as they come petite um she's little yes she was um she told us how little she was over and not that i'm like i'm not a huge person i definitely wasn't back then but she kind of made it like a narrative of the night it was like i'm so little i'm bite-sized and i don't know why but it irritated the fuck out of me like it just did you didn't communicate any of that to me though no so we're and we're at this bar and keep in mind we have no boundaries right no rules we've never talked about any of that nothing we're going in blind no code words nothing so we go in and okay so let's talk about him for a second how would you describe him like physically or what yeah he was just more shy yeah he was a little stockier yeah you know right sure a little short a little stocky which knowing you now was not exactly your forte you know that was not probably normally who you'd be attracted to but he wasn't a bad but he wasn't a bad looking guy no no good personality yeah he was really nice so we chat and we seem to all be hitting it off right yeah So, let's take a look.
he wasn't a bad looking guy no no good personality yeah he was really nice so we chat and we seem to all be hitting it off right yeah no i thought we were flirting everything was good yeah so at some point i think you went to the bathroom and you text me like what do you think again we had no plan and i think i said okay again just because we say okay does it mean we're going home to fuck like, I don't know what this looks like. So we end up going to their house, which they had a beautiful home. It was so nice. What happened? I need you to tell me here. Yes, we went to their house.
They had a small mansion. Yeah. That's the way I would describe it.
And we all got in the hot tub we did and i don't know it was like kind of like nobody wanted to like it took forever it took forever everybody was afraid and this this happened you know now especially when you're first in the lifestyle yeah me nowadays would have pushed that along yeah back then i was a little more hesitant and so it was like you know i think we got back to the place it's probably like midnight by the time we got back to the place now it's like 1 a.m and we're in the hot tub 1 30 2 a.m and we were like i think there was some kissing there was some like you know touching i don't think it was between me and him though oh it's just me and her i think and again keep in mind she keeps talking about how tiny she is so i am already slightly annoyed so but somehow we end up in the bedroom right and i don't really it's hard to remember what all happened i know that at one point i fell off the bed trying like i was laying on the bed i wasn't drunk i just like i think i rolled and i rolled wrong and fell off the bed which was humiliating then you couldn't get hard i was struggling to get hard i think he gave you a viagra he did your first bagger and then he um didn't he give you a cock ring too i don't i don't remember that i remember taking a viagra for the first first time ever in my life yeah yeah and i think he was hard but he and i i think i fucked him but it wasn't very much did you fuck her yeah so i've if i remember i think i eventually got hard and then i fucked her and i came pretty quick oh okay and i think that's when that's what got yeah because keep in mind i'd never seen him with anybody else we had no boundaries i had no idea what was going to affect me which was not and obviously when he finished with her and he had a condom on i reacted and i just got up and walked out of the room and i think it was part of because i came quick yeah you know it was hot and i was horny i think it was a little like stage fright for me like a little performance anxiety and then once i got hard and got inside her it was like well this feels good this is amazing this is great it was like yeah and it was over and we had maybe been dating like a month and i just got up and walked out of the room i didn't like throw a fit i think you were like we need to go yeah i think i was like yeah she's like oh yeah like she was trying to be like sweet and be like oh bye guys yeah and she even texts you on the side once we left because we were texting on this you know before i think we were texting before me yeah yeah we didn't of course we had no boundaries so that was totally acceptable she was not she wasn't she was like is she okay yeah she actually did and it was just honestly it was just a nightmare.
So in hindsight, I wasn't super attracted to him. He did have a really nice personality. He really wasn't a bad guy. I think I kind of got the vibe that it was all about her. That was a relationship structure, which is absolutely fine.
I just had never experienced anything like that because hot wives don't typically play with like unicorns it's not really anything i had experienced and then obviously you were used to being the center of attention yeah and then we go into this scenario where she's kind of made into the center of attention yeah i just kind of felt like i was like the extra and you know i'm falling in love with you and i'm watching you do this to this girl or you know fuck her and come i was just like i don't know part of me was just like devastated a little and i don't know it was just i should have used my words i should have communicated we should have knew we needed boundaries probably should never got that far no we shouldn't have i should have just if you weren't feeling at the bar we should just piece that or we should have like that's a good reason to never play the first time we meet a couple because then we could have left and i could have like communicated those things to you and then like i just don't get the vibe that he's like into me i think he's more into watching his wife and that's fine that maybe maybe i just watch or Maybe I don't we don't do that and the funny thing is now i bet we could meet up with that same exact couple i could just fuck the shout out of her and you probably think it was hot as shit yeah yeah and you know because i'm in the the whole like i'm the tiniest girl in the world thing just was annoying right well you probably were less secure then yeah for sure i was less secure myself our relationship everything like it was just a hot mess so it just honestly it was probably not a good idea from the beginning but we got in a little bit of argument i think yeah i don't think it was like a major thing we had like an hour drive home so we had time to talk and probably yeah um but we definitely we learned to communicate that night or we learned we needed to communicate maybe we didn't do it right um but and honestly most swinging first experiences are probably going to be something like that yeah true i mean it's not gonna like you want to believe you're in this super hot orgy and everything's so hot and everything's working but truth be told some part one of you is probably not as attracted to the other person than the other one it's just somebody's not going to get hard yeah so i think while we're on that subject let's jump to number what's number three on the list in front of us and talk a little bit about performance anxiety and guys not getting hard.
OK. So for me, a lot of guys struggle getting hard. If you had to put like a percentage, how often do you experience a guy that can't get a hard on? Probably at least 50 percent.
and to be like that's what if i had to guess i would say whenever we enter a play space there's probably a 50 50 chance yeah that at least one guy there is not going to get actually to say there's probably 100 chance that one guy if you're in a group setting yeah but even like a one-on-one like where there's two couples us and another, it's probably about a 50-50 chance that the other guy might struggle with that direction. I think it's gotten better because we typically play with the same couples. And so a lot of the couples. We get comfortable. They get comfortable. Correct.
But if it's like a new partner, there's probably a good chance that.
I can't even think, you know, you're always like, well, get hard i bet i struggle probably 20 of the time 25 of the time something like that yeah but most guys don't struggle just 20 so usually it's the guy can't get hard with me and dan's over there fucking the shit out of his wife he's going down and there is something like it's hard to not get somewhat annoyed right not at you not at him just at the whole situation you know um so we're gonna tell a story about someone not getting hard that's our next story okay so let's start this story off we had somehow ended up in an orgy with this couple for the first time that we played with them it was a super hot orgy we talked about it here on the podcast we all fucked it was great like no issues whatsoever in a group setting yeah with a bunch of people i mean there were probably 10 15 20 people in that room that day there was a lot of people and it was hot you know um so we left that situation and we were like we need some one-on-one we need some one-on-one time because that was hot we need to like be able to like spend time with each other so we had something coming up and we were like hey let's get together so that was the plan leading up to this weekend i got a utr which i'm one of those women i think it might be the condoms i think i don't know when i have a lot of sex i tend to get utris and it doesn't matter who it's i can you don't drink enough water i don't drink enough water it could be with Dan like it doesn't have to be like a new partner it's just if I'm having a lot of sex I'm probably gonna get a UTI and then I get a UTI I take it I take antibiotics and I get used to infection that's kind of what happens to me um which is another thing a lot of people don't in the lifestyle so i went to the doctor got my medicine and if you're a girl for me if i'm on that medicine for like 48 hours i'm feeling much better and so i went to the doctor earlier in the week got my medicine was taking it i was good to go like i would not have played if i wasn't feeling well i actually felt a lot better but if you don't know guys they give you these pills that turns your pee neon orange yeah yeah and it takes a few days to get out of your system so by the time the weekend was there i was not on those pills anymore but i was still peeing orange orange like neon so we get in the situation and i'm like this is what's going on i still want to do this do you want to do this like i felt comfortable enough i wouldn't have them yeah i felt comfortable with them um and everybody just we were good so we're on and i should say i think it's worth noting this couple was content creators they were so not only now we're in a one-on-one situation and we've also put up lights and cameras yeah so and that brings another level of stress anxiety right something different i'm telling you if you've never had sex with lights on you and cameras on you it it it feels a little weird at first yeah yeah i mean once you get going you kind of forget they're there but yeah to get started we were really into like we were all very excited to do this so it wasn't like oh now we have cameras on like if we wanted like we were super hot you know and honestly i don't remember a whole lot of details from the actual like play time i do know that i was very nervous to squirt squirt come anything like i was because i could just sit on a white bed and it was orange like it was we were at that level of um which is so sexy oh my god give me that orange oh give me that orange stained vagina people are gonna talk about me and just know it oh you can't say i don't put my ass and vagina out for this podcast um then he couldn't get hard and he was struggling and his wife was worried about him and it just ended up being i wouldn't say a shit show because like it was so hot i mean like i had a great time he you know i didn't really i wouldn't let him go down on me because you know right um you want to end up with orange lips correct and so we really couldn't fuck i think he finally got hard at some point and was able you know to fuck me a little bit yeah but it was just i don't know it was just not what you had anticipated i don't think any of us and i and i'm not blaming anybody honestly i probably set us up for failure with my orange uh well that yeah because you think like okay so you're hot and bothered and then you're like oh by the way i had a uti and i'm on medicine and my pussy might be orange okay so that takes a little bit of the sexiness away yeah now you put cameras and all that stuff up and you're like oh amber's gonna be a camera and you're facing on you so like you better be a porn star yeah so also you you can't fuck me because your dick's not hard you also can't go down on me there's just like not a lot left so you can rub my vagina and hope your hands don't turn on he was a great sport right she his wife you know she did exactly what she was supposed to do she you know would leave you to go help him it ended up working out you had an amazing time i think you came probably i can't remember for sure um it ended up being fine there is a video out there of said experience um but it was just it was not it was not what you think of when we thought of our first solo experience with them right and i think that's part of the you know you almost like fantasize this right so it's like oh we played with them once they're hot this is a couple we're super into and this is going to be great and it's like then you get sick and then then the camera is and he can't and it just you can't it's hard not to walk away from that and be like fuck like that wasn't what i wanted you know that wasn't what i expected that's that's a little disappointing and not and it still be nobody's fault like it wasn't it wasn't your fault you had no control wasn't his fault like you know it just that's just what happens sometimes and i think that's maybe why we're doing this podcast for people to realize like this happens to everybody it's nobody's fault it's It's okay.
Just try again. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because we fucked about it. I didn't have a great time. So it just is one of those things. Yeah, it is. Okay. I think now is the perfect time to take a little break and hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast. And then when we get back, we're going to go more some more blunders yeah some more doozies yeah some more not so great swing yeah all right guys we'll be right back so if y'all saw my new post with my new bikinis they're're pretty awesome.
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We we got some more we got some more stories we do do you want to stick on the the dicks don't work train and do the time that that happened to you uh we can do that uh yeah so it certainly it's happened to me i think we talked about this before the break about about 20 of the time yeah um there's been times where i just couldn't get hard um really the first you know we talked a little bit about our very first time swinging and i can think of another you know i think it was our second time swinging we were actually at a friction party um and we ended up in a room i think it was two or three other couple i think at least two couples and then us were in the room um and you started having fun yeah and some girl some beautiful woman came over and started sucking my dick and i think maybe because you know it happened to me in our first experience i was like oh shit well this was like our first my head doesn't get hard my dick doesn't get hard this is our first orgy so we again we had never you know this is now our second time to swap we'd never been in an orgy so it was just all new to us it was kind of i can remember like feeling like everybody's looking at me like yeah everybody's seeing my dick's not getting hard like uh oh no what do i do you know and then like oh his dick's hard like you know like yeah and it just you when you're in that situation right it just you make it worse and so i mean you think you ended up playing with a couple of guys i you know i think i gave oral sex to a couple of girls and was like hey sorry i don't think this is gonna work tonight it's not you it's me kind of thing i think and the funny thing is we wrapped that up and then we all ended up in the hot tub together and And then, you know, one of the girls was like sitting on my lap and like rubbing on me and stuff.
Then like my dick's hard. Right. But it's because like I'm in the water. You can't see my dick. Like there's no pressure. No one's expecting me to get hard and fuck somebody. She's just like rubbing on me a little bit. Like she wasn't even like trying to get me hard. But I it just happened.
It shows you that it's it's in your in your head it's not it's not a physical thing it's a it's a mental thing and i think she actually was like you want me to get on it and i was like no in the tub with a condom yeah right yeah so but it happens i mean i can think of several times just in you know in the last few years where that happened this is part of it we don't talk about a lot you know viagra for me helps right so if i take viagra um that really helps me with performance anxiety because it just gives me that extra little my dick is just quicker to jump to attention than it is without it and so i think i don't need as much stimulation i think there's also a little placebo i'm like oh i had a viagra i'm good you know i mean like i think that kind of calls my nerve a bit a little bit because i you know in my head i've taken a pill so it's gonna work uh but that can be timing that in the lifestyle is difficult yeah you have asked me like a lot of nights when we're in like our room like refilling our cups or changing the lingerie you're like oh you think we're fucking you should take a bagger and i always just say just take it because like me and you can bug we usually always end up fucking regardless so i always just say just take it because i'd rather have it than not have it so that's always my advice to you right so again this is not medical advice and it's different for everybody but just for me 30 minutes to an hour before i think we're gonna start fucking yeah when i I need to take it.
I've seen guys, like, we're walking into a playroom and they're, like, taking a Viagra. Yeah. And then their dick won't get hard. And they're like, I don't know what's up. But it's like, I don't think that pill is. Well, and I think something that you do different than a lot of guys do, you have, like, a little.
It's made for medicine, but it's a little bag that one of your ed medications at some point came in and you keep that in your pocket so like we usually know around midnight or so we're gonna it's you watch the clock so you don't bring it that viagra with you and then yeah part of the reason friends i'm trying to get the party started at midnight because that's when my viagra said if i've taken the viagra 30 minutes ago if we don't if we need to wait another two hours to fuck yeah that probably isn't gonna work so like don't leave the viagra in the room right like yeah i have i usually take one with me to the club and then you're saying you know feeling the you kind of can tell the vibe you know so sometimes i can kind of play off the crowd like okay is everybody rubbing on each other is every does the vibe seem like this is going to the playroom and then sometimes if i'm i'm sure i'll try to ask you know i'll ask you like because mostly when i ask you it's like you're just gauging me right if you're like no fuck it i don't i don't feel up to it i don't want to go to bed like then i just won't do it yeah if you're like no i'm good for tonight like you know i don't know if it's gonna happen but yeah i'm down if it does then i'm like okay let me take my bag and then i'm the one at midnight that's like hey guys let's go back to a room yeah and part of that's because i want i want to go fuck but part of that's like it's a little selfish because i know if we time it wrong i might be i might be struggling yeah so makes sense for sure which one do you next uh let's we've talked about this one before so let's talk about the time you locked me out of the room okay well i didn't lock you out but we talked a little bit about this last week and we kind of were hesitant to like talk about it and we've actually had a podcast where we tell this whole story but truth be told it's a really good story and it's like kind of like when somebody says with your craziest lifestyle story that this is the one we tell so we i had a couple that i had played with as a unicorn this is again very early on and i knew that dan would really like her and so i was like hey i know this really cute couple and they're a lot of fun and they're our age what do you think about like hanging out with him you know and he was like I want you know I'm okay with that if you're okay with it and then I kind of asked them and they were like absolutely um so we planned a time to go to their house and we went and we hung out we didn't swap or anything we just went hung out and then we planned another time where we all went out at home and this is like pre-podcast is very very beginning and while we were out we were like listening to live music we met this other couple and it was pretty obvious they were swingers like don't you think yeah no i agree yeah yeah um but none of us really knew um but somehow we figured it out that they were so then we're like do we do we meet him again another time they took they invited us out on their boat okay so another so then they were like we we exchanged information so then they were like hey do you want to go you want to go on our boat?
We'll have, you know, we're like, sure, you know, that sounds fun. So, we, you know, we had a kid-free weekend. We went out on the lake on their boat and spent pretty much the whole day. We didn't have, like, we didn't know if there was night plans. It was just kind of like, let's see how the day goes.
But they were like, do you want to, like, we can go home and we can take showers and get ready and then meet back up and we could go out tonight so we did that and i don't know if you need all that to tell the story but whatever yeah you started way back when you're like we met a couple and i was their unicorn i'm like is she telling a different story than the one i'm thinking no i just i i just so yeah this day we spent spent the whole day with this couple and we were vibing with them i mean we were like in the water i think there was maybe tops off at one point i thought they were very attractive we were making out we're touching but we were kind of in a public we were on the boat and we were where we were anchored up there was other boats and people and stuff so we couldn't like fuck right there yeah um and then we weren't sure like how far this was gonna go so anyway they end up inviting us downtown to go out and have drinks and i guess i told that story because we didn't meet them online so there was never like a profile to read like what they were into we didn't have met them organically through friends of friends right we never we didn't like have this long texting conversation where you're like showing pictures you know how like what are your boundaries what do you none of that had happened it was strictly organic and then this all happened so we met out we we had a lot of fun well they were like we have an apartment in because we didn't we hadn't went to their house or anything we have an apartment do y'all want to go like hang out there which was code for like fuck and we were like absolutely right and this apartment isn't it was like an extra it's not even where they live yeah it was like an extra apartment that i guess they rented out or something like that but yeah one of the bedrooms was empty i don't i don't know the full story about why they had this apartment but they had an apartment downtown so they invite us over there like i kind of think it was their fuck bag like now in hindsight but i don't know that i don't know that um but they had an apartment so we go to this apartment and he was furnished there's stuff there's beds and um the door opens like a bedroom door, and out walks this guy who is attractive.
And I was like, and he was young, and Hay was exchanged, and then he went and shut the door. And I was like, oh, are you fucking him? Now, at this point, we're all tipsy, you know? I was like, oh, are you fucking him? And she just kind of froze. It was very awkward. Right.
So you see this hot guy, and because they're swingers you just like kind of blurt out oh my god he's hot are you fucking him not really even thinking about what you're thinking and honestly i probably wouldn't have said that if i wasn't tipsy right you know we were flirty we were talking you know we're getting about to fuck i was tipsy it was just At the time, it seemed appropriate.
She immediately reacts weird yeah she just kind of froze like she like almost like she didn't know what to do so she just froze and then the man the husband was like are you fucking are you and we're like me and dan are like what is happening you know like and he's clearly bothered by the idea of that yeah and so now we're froze and we're like looking back and forth and back and forth um but somehow we just kind of like that ends that conversation i don't even know he was like whatever we'll worry about this that later or something and then he just snatches you up yeah he literally grabs my hand and walks me and you know like okay you know and he takes me in the bedroom and he shuts the door behind me and i didn't know what to do honestly it was kind of like we we talked about this on tuesday talks uh i didn't know what i didn't know what to do i just we never talked about we had no boundaries we didn't have really I don't think me and you had better oh we did at this point yeah at that point we definitely me and you did sorry yeah we never had the conversation about what our boundaries were with this particular correct we had not told this couple at that point me and you definitely had boundaries yeah um i didn't know what to do and i just so i did nothing i just went and you just went with it i just went with it because i didn't know how to like speak up for myself right um and so i'm in there just having a blast oh yeah everybody can hear that you're having a blast i mean i was completely oblivious to anything in the house going our apartment that was going on i was just enjoying myself so what was happening on your end she was crying on your shoulder no she locked herself in the bathroom and then she came out crying and then she was pounding on the other dude's door and then like whispering to him and then like he's like go just go away and they were having like an their own fight this is the guy that she i asked if she was fucking right and i'm like is everything okay and she's like not really talking to me and i was like so i once this kind of all started to transpire i was like fuck this and so i go busting up in the room where you're just getting having the time of your life getting pounded and i'm like lacy i think we need to go and you're like what huh why because i didn't know anything was going on and honestly i was having a good time so i was like it took me a minute to really like understand right because in your head you don't maybe me and her are fucking on the couch right yeah you don't really know i assume that was what was happening um and then the guy the husband was like and you were like she's upset i just i think maybe you should go talk and he's like worst husband ever husband's gonna be fine she'll be fine we'll have a threesome she's fine she'll get over it she'll be all right just you join in let's go yeah let's like we don't have to stop yeah you jump in jump in with me yeah i was like no no no she's clearly upset yeah something's off here like like we like you guys you guys were cool we had so much fun hanging out with you but we don't want to disrespect her whatever's going on here we need to bounce yeah so i'm like sad but but i get up and put my clothes on and i'm like still confused you know you were like a little like frustrated with me like well i mean maybe a little i think it took you a minute to realize i didn't quite understand because i guess i didn't understand how like you were like i think she's upset i'm like no she's not she's just it's she's fine she's you know it just took me a minute to really understand that she actually was upset by the tears rolling down her face okay so we leave and we're like we walk out and we're like what the fuck was that you know we know, we leave and we go home.
We go to bed. I wake up in this morning and I have a Facebook message from this guy. And he's like, hey, I'm sorry about how things went down last night. I guess she just wasn't really into Dan.
And I was like, I mean, not saying like that's totally fine if she's not into you maybe could maybe played a factor in there somewhere maybe um based on her her body language and the way she behaved throughout the day i did not give that vibe but right sometimes most of the day she had her tongue down my throat and her hand on my dick yeah yeah so the vibe kind of changed when we walked through that door yeah she saw him if she was fucking that guy of course i didn't want to be like a total bitch and be like sure dude you know i was just like okay well it seemed like it was something else but and i still don't know like was that guy fucking her and he was mad that she was fucking us we don't know the husband mad that she was fucking that guy like i still don't know what exactly the problem was no and what's funny is we actually were invited back so they actually invited us to a house party we fucked them since then yeah and we just all pretended like it didn't happen like we just pretended that this night never happened um and we all fucked in one big room and she turned out she was kind of into me she she liked i'm not gonna lie she looked like she was having the time of her life um so based on what i saw i don't think that was the case something happened there um it was just a shitty situation it was kind of like one of those moments right when the fuck just happened um we haven't talked to them in a while no pretty sure that they don't listen to the podcast but if you do we're cool yeah for sure yeah we like sure what that was all about but to be honest with you we all have shit like just like we talked about earlier I got up and walked out of that room i don't dislike those people i just was struggling you know we all have something i don't fuck people without dan knowing i can be honest with that but we all have something we don't know what their dynamic was they seem much more open they seemed much more open um and and i respect that i just wish we would have communicated those boundaries prior to engaging with them um and now we know but if you ever have a house party again we'd love to come back it was i mean what a good time we had a great uh okay all right so that that was a time where lacy kind of got sucked up into the heat of the moment and kind of forgot she had a husband you weren't my husband you forgot about your partner I did that once you did so let's hear that story okay so hito hito trip number one our first trip to hito we had been there for like three four days and we had not fucked anybody right we were feeling a little bit of pressure not gonna lie we paid all this money for this trip truth be told our dog died the day before we left so we were we were fucked up a little um in our head um so we just really were struggling um but we had met the jersey couple we haven't talked about them in a while so they're gonna their names are gonna get mentioned you said you weren't gonna mention names but you mentioned their name it's okay but this wasn't know the other couple we don't know the other couple so this is we can kind of talk more openly we also said we were gonna talk about wherever you were but we just we just but it's okay for this one we've already talked about all this okay and we have no idea who this couple is so it doesn't really matter um so boston they're from boston so we had connected with jersey couple we were chit-chatting and then there was another couple and he was they were from boston like so we're all kind of vibing yeah boston's wife by the way is a fucking smoke show yeah she was hot he's okay well you know he was decent not not super hot but not ugly i mean he's good looking so the three of us us jersey couple boston couple we're in the naked pool at hito we're all kind of vibing we're all kind of flirting we're all kind of talking then out of nowhere a thunderstorm comes yeah thunder lightning bad and so hito's like you need to get the fuck out of the pool we're closing the pool down because of lightning so when once hit says that um boston couples like hey guys we can still we can keep this going we have a hot tub room so they have one of the oceanfront rooms that had a hot tub out on the porch and there's what's the bottom floor so it actually was covered in a deck so it's pretty pretty safe from yeah from the lightning i mean it wasn't but whatever we could still get in it they didn't kick us out of that so we just went there so keep in mind we haven't fucked anybody we're under pressure this couple's inviting us back everybody's hot everybody's hot we're like fuck yeah we're going you know you only live once um so we go and we all get in the hot tub right as we get in the hot tub everybody's getting everybody's already drunk so we've been at the pool party all day but boston guy mr boston guy is getting is apparently very drunk yeah so i like sloppy i don't think i was drunk because i seem very level head i think you know like at this point oh yeah you were so level-headed no no i was and it was very apparent to me that he was shit-faced and he was almost belligerent and i was like oh my god what have we gotten ourselves into you know it was kind of like like flashing red light you know but we i didn't know how to get out of it you know i i didn't know what i was doing uh again we you know this was not super far in june we just started the podcast like we didn't know what I was doing.
Again, we, you know, this was not super far into, we had just started the podcast. Like, we didn't know what the fuck we were doing. So. Things start getting sexual in the hot tub. So, the girls start taking turns riding the jets one at a time, which was pretty hot. You know, you guys are moaning and stuff like that. And then, I don't know. Started doing blowjobs or something. Blowjobs.
Okay, at some back up the jersey couple leaves they said not before the blowjobs okay so blowjobs start so i go to get i think miss mrs boston wanted to suck my dick for whatever reason i don't know how that became a thing but she wanted to suck my dick so i go to get out of the hot tub to sit on the side of it so that she can suck my dick now as i do that i get out of the water with a hard on mr boston notices my dick and then full swing swats it and goes what did you get that sam's club dick out of yeah something like that and i mean he slaps my dick like you would slap i don't know like a person swing slap like like you would smack somebody across the face and my mouth drops i'm like what is happening i'm like dan's about to fight this motherfucker and i'm confused because i'm like i think it was his idea for his wife to suck my dick i definitely got hot wife from him yeah and so and i don't know if the size of my dick got mentioned or talked to i don't know i don't think so i don't think so but anyway as i got out of the water he slaps my dick and he's laughing but i'm not like i think he thought it was like haha funny but i'm kind of like annoyed and a little pissed off yeah and like his wife is like doesn't know what the fuck to say and so it just got awkward real quick yeah somehow we recovered from that which that should have been a red flag like get the fuck out of here this is not going well somehow mr boston is like let's move this to the bedroom wait before that he decides that he wants his dick sucked too so he i'm sitting on the other side just like taking everything in and he mounts you and stands on this side of the hot tub yeah so i think at some point in this hot tub thing where i would start going down on her so she's on the side of the pool i'm head into her pussy but like my butt is up in the air behind me i don't know exactly what happened but he like almost like he was climbing like a mountain or something like you thought he was gonna try to fuck me in the ass i didn't know what at this point i had no idea what was happening what he was trying to do is put his dick in his wife's mouth while i was going down on her all on the side of the hot tub which he's drunk it's hot like because she's on the side of the hot tub he's like trying to stand up on the side of the hot tub and he's so drunk like he's almost falling like it it seemed dangerous at that point yeah so after all this and keep in mind i am not touching anybody i'm just sitting up there like what the fuck are we in like what are we doing and so we decide we're gonna move this to the bedroom or they everybody i don't know somehow we were like it gets like let's maybe because it's like he almost dies falling off the side like i don't know we're gonna take this in the bedroom so we walk in the bedroom this is where jersey dips yes this is where jersey is like we gotta go we gotta go all their our kids and i'm thinking they're never coming back like i don't know their situation i don't but they're not coming back and good for them i wouldn't come back either so we go into the room and he has like an entire assortment of sex toys on the bed plugs and paddles and giant dildos it's almost like on display like look at all my treasures so we're like okay so you and her i guess start going at it well i think we were going at it in the hot so i think it just kind of went straight to the bedroom and we're straight to me and him had not even touched at this point um but we me and him start engaging i should have said no thank you at that point but i did not i again i've learned a lot over the years and this you know taught me some lessons i did not i just kind of went with it and before i knew it he's got me like basically missionary with my legs up and my head is like down in the pillows i actually have a pillow laying across my face and he is like reaching over me to get to his wife while you fuck like almost like he was like choking her or touching her breast i don't know what he was doing so obviously my face was covered by a pillow but like so like i'm being covered and y'all are just like going to town on her and i don't i i don't know i'm sure he's fucking me i don't know what i felt like he was just like using my vagina does that make sense like i'm like tucked underneath the pillow so at some point i'm like oh i need a break he's in the watch and his wife gets yeah so he's not paying any attention making all kinds of she's having time she said something about it's the best she's been fucked since the high school basketball team or something yeah she's moaning she's screaming at some point i'm like okay i need a break you know so i get off get out of this situation and i'm like i gotta use the bathroom and i'm in the bathroom and i'm like dad can you come here for a second i need you and you come in the bathroom and you're like hey hey and i'm like we're getting the fuck out of here and you're like what i'm like we're leaving and he was like wait why i'm having so much fun i'm like we are leaving so we come out of the bathroom like we have to go i'm not feeling well we have to leave and they're like what what i'm like yeah we just gotta go right now we gotta go i didn't give a shit you know at that point i had gotten away from he had the best like i don't know what it was and um so we leave and we pass jersey couple as we're leaving and they're like where are y'all going we're like as we're walking out of the door here comes poor jersey couple coming back in they decided i guess they just went and talked i think they did go and actually call their kids yeah and they had to talk it over and decided like okay yeah and they were at the time brand new they had never played with anybody yeah which we didn't we didn't know that they had never full swapped um and so we were like best of luck we got high five them like oh we're out of here but we didn't know any of this for all we knew they were pros you know and so we're walking down the beach we're butt-ass naked because we're on the nude side and dan's like what the fuck why are we leaving i only fucked her for eight minutes or something i I think in head i'm like well that was fucking hot she was hot as fuck and that was fun and then this hot blonde trying to join in and have an orgy and we're leaving like what the fuck is going on and i was like i looked at him and i said we don't do this i was like if one of us is not comfortable we leave and i was not comfortable and you you were like well i only got to fuck her for like eight minutes and i was like you're welcome you're welcome and so we just like walked back to the room and we never talked to that couple again we still have it we have no idea who they are and here's the other thing they were a nice couple.
Because we had talked to them a few times when they were sober. And she was hot. He was a really nice guy. Really outgoing. I think he was just too drunk. And they were probably a hot wife couple. They were probably more of a hot wife couple. Yeah. And then just like a little backstory. Jersey ended up going in there. Same thing. Same thing. Where she got uncomfortable.
Yeah so it wasn't just us yeah and they left the next day so that couple did yeah thank god but that's so last situation lacy goes behind doors with a guy and gets caught up in the moment forgets about me and i'm out in the living room dealing with a crying wife while she's squirting and having the time of her life and then i get caught up in this hot chick because she was hot and was like yeah at least you'll be all right with this drunk guy it'll be okay thanks it seemed like you were having it seemed like you were okay to me because my head was covered too had no idea so these things happen and i think you know if you're going to be in the lifestyle long enough you're going to get wrapped up in a situation and maybe kind of forget to check in yeah or check on your spouse well and that's what like if we can take away from a lot of these experiences one alcohol played a factor yeah you know and and a lot of them ignoring all the red flags yeah um not talking about boundaries prior to engaging with a couple um all of those things would have saved us and i think that's why other than like dick's not getting hard yeah that's gonna happen now that happens we don't have any major ones like this really anymore we have not walked out of a play session in years probably no yeah i think we have just gotten better of how to handle the situation you know and we've just not put ourselves i think if we get a bad feeling we just we're out like we're not gonna we're not gonna we're not even getting yeah we're not gonna engage um so i think we've learned a lot other, about ourselves, about our marriage.
And we've just gotten a little better. But who's to say that next time we swing, something doesn't go down? You never know. Yeah. I definitely think swinging is not all unicorns and rainbows.
And it's not all hot people and hard dicks and orgies and squirting and porn star sex yeah um people get their feelings hurt people get in fights people don't get hard uh people feel left out and ignored and all these things happen happen frequently probably at every event that there's you know it happens to at least a couple couples um and that's okay and i don't even think i think it's how you handle those situations not so much that the situation happens no because they're gonna happen right this is how you handle it right and so leaning on your partner putting always putting your partner's needs wants desires you know if lacy's like i'm out then it's a no question i'm out like you know i mean and it's okay that i'm disappointed or it's okay that i was like yeah fuck damn it that was fun well the thing is as soon as i said that it was almost like it snapped you out of it you're like you're right yeah you know and sometimes it's okay that we we need to be snapped out of it we're enjoying ourselves as we should so you had to be snapped out of the other one yeah i was like we need to go and you're like what no it's okay that was your initial reaction too i was like it's not okay or you know it's it's okay that it's i think in the heat of a moment it's reasonable for it to take a minute for people to kind of like fully realize what's going on because we're you know the truth is when you're engaging with in sex with somebody else you're not 100 aware of what everything else that's going on and it can be difficult you know to focus on the person you're with and try to keep an eye on your partner and check in and like this is you know that's why it takes a while to get good at this because that's that's not like day one stuff that you learn how to do it's kind of something that evolves over time and i think you know the more you play with a partner and explore together the better you get at your communicating the better you kind of set expectations on like how often should i check in when should i check on you like what are you going to do to let me know if you're not okay you know all that stuff takes time um but the more you do it the more you engage um i think the more you kind of develop those skills i agree all right anything else you want to tell the swing nation listeners about un unsuccessful swinging no i think that's it i think that's it okay well i think with that in a world full of apples be Be the pineapple.
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