Send us Fan MailLifestyle Interview: Can a Swinger Win an Election? Yvonne Rorrer Thinks So | Episode 196In this episode of The Swing Nation Podcast, the top-rated podcast about non-monogamy and swinging, Dan and Lacy sit down with Yvonne Rorrer, a Democratic candidate for the Virginia House of Delegates, who recently made headlines around the world.After publicly sharing on social media that she and her husband are swingers, Yvonne sparked a wave of media attention—including a spotlight on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Dan and Lacy dive into her bold decision to live authentically in the public eye, the national reaction to her announcement, and how it s impacted her political campaign.They also discuss Yvonne’s hopes for the future and her desire to be a voice for non-monogamous individuals and couples if elected. This candid and inspiring conversation breaks down stigma, champions transparency, and highlights the growing movement toward acceptance in politics and beyond.Don’t miss this groundbreaking episode that blends lifestyle and leadership in a way that’s never been heard before!To learn more about Yvonne or support her campaign go to: https://yvonnerorrer.com/- The Swing Nation -Main Website Quick Navigation Website: -- (Find all our social media links more!)- Swinger Society - Our Website to meet, connect events Swinger Society Discord Our Facebook Group- Swinger Websites -Kasadie 90 day free trialUsername: TheSwingNation SDC 14 day free trial Username: TheSwingNation** Use code 36313 for 14 days free! ** SLSUsername: NorthernGuynSouthernGirl- Merch More -Order Your Merch Here!- Lacy’s Fun Links -VIP OnlyFansPREMIUM OnlyFans-- THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS --I Know my Status : Get 15% your first test with by using promo code: Lifestyle https://iknowmystatus.com/ Wisp : Making sexual healthcare inclusive, cost-effective, and accessible—for everyoneUse Code SWING at checkout for 15% off your oder!Shameless Care: ED Medication and at home STD testingUse Code TSN at checkout for $30 off your order!Promescent® Make Love Longer, It’s Time for Great SexUse CodeSupport the show- Thank you for the support! -
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Yes, in the state of Virginia. The 47th district? You're right. Look at me. I did my research. And she's actually made national news attention, was even on, was talked about on the Stephen Colbert show because she outed herself as a swinger. I did. It actually went international. I was picked up in Germany and in the UK as well. Wow. Wow. So I saw it on Facebook and we have a like group chat that everybody that works for us. And so I sent it, I just copied the, the article and sent it in our group chat.
everybody was like oh my god that's so cool so like we were kind of on this almost immediately like when it came out we were like this is awesome so yeah yeah that's great i will say from our community's perspective there's there's been a lot of um support i think you even said and i tried to research this that you might be the first person ever to go public as a swinger prior to running for public office that's that's um what i've been told and that's why it took off the way it did um i expected it to reach richmond maybe you know i i really did not expect for it to for the first reporter to reach out to me to be from the huffington post i i i didn't expect that we can relate to that we can relate to that because we kind of we exposed ourselves but on accident we didn't we i kind of thought that like people in our town would know you know and it would kind of be whispered i had no idea but it it spreads like wildfire and it's quick once one person knows it everybody very quickly knows so I can I can get that and I'm sure yours is on a much higher level than even we were exposed to well for me it was um you know it's not something that we've hid from our close family um the majority of them um it wasn't something that we've hid from our adult children we have three children that are in their 20s um they are supportive um most of our family um some of them did not find out until recently um for for good reasons because their response uh would be not supportive and that's that's the way um it's been yeah so that's actually perfect because that's that's where i wanted to start with this so let if you could just tell us just a little bit about you your personal life where you're from uh let's just get to know you a little bit.
Sure. Um, so I was born in Michigan by accident. Um, I was born early and my family was there, a visiting family. And so I was born in, in Michigan. Uh, within two weeks, I was brought back home to North Carolina, which is where I grew up. Um, my husband was here in Virginia. Um, so I met him and, uh, he transplanted me here. Um, when we first got married in our twenties, I moved him back to Carolina because I was not used to such a rural area. Um, so we, we quickly moved back to North Carolina for a while.
Um, and then, you know, spent about six, seven years there and then decided to move back to Virginia. Just close enough to North Carolina, though, that I can still make it to Winston within an hour. But, yeah, we have four kids, plenty of dogs. We live on a little farm. And we're just everyday people, really. Um, you know, I was in property management for 20 years. Um, that's what I did. That was kind of my life, life careers.
Um, what I refer to it as, um, professional photographer for a while um and that really did well um and i've met a lot of people which is great for me um in this area that are both republican democrat independent doesn't matter um through that photography business um i was able to make a lot of connections. And they know me as a person, not me as a politician, not me as a swinger, not me as, you know, they knew me as somebody who was photographing their babies from the time they were born.
And so in 2020, I stopped, it was the early 2021, actually, I went out of property management to deal with just some family stuff. And I started advocating for, for children that are currently in the court system with abuse and neglect cases. And I'm also a photographer for Now Lay Me Down to Sleep, which is a nonprofit that, um, I'm also a photographer for now, let me down to sleep, which is a nonprofit that, um, helps families who are grieving the loss of a child through professional photography when their child passes. Um, um, so it's, it's more advocacy stuff for me at this point.
Um, and my life, that's what I've spent the last last few years doing so how did you and your husband find the lifestyle how did that that start where where did that happen right um i woke up one morning that's kind of like i did with running for office it was just like hey um no i it kind of started with a dream. I had a dream about it and I was scared to death, uh, to really say anything about it. Um, because I'm like, we've never talked about this kind of, so we've been married for 22 years.
Um, and never really, I mean, we spent our life raising kids and having careers and all of the things, and I wasn't sure how I would take it. You know, I, mentally you, you think about things that you never talk about with your partner, uh, when you're not in the lifestyle, um, and things that you wish you could talk about, but you're afraid to, um, to express those truths and, and things. But anyway, I started with a dream. I had a dream about it. And the next morning I told him, um, what my dream was, but I said, I had a really, um, interesting dream, but I can't tell you what it was.
And I can't tell you who was in it. And he, um, he got the part out of me where, what it was he was like oh well I mean you absolutely have to tell me who it was now um you can't just give me part of it um so I told him who it was and he paused for a minute and he said yeah I could I could see that and I was like oh well really good for him that he took it so well yeah yeah um so that's kind of that's kind of how it started um he he went to work and I jumped on the phone really quick before he changed his mind. So that's that's kind of how it happened for us.
And once we got into it, I mean, we did. We've never really looked back. We've we've been kind of fluid in and out of it. Because you you run into it can be a roller coaster at times, especially when you're new to it and you're first trying to figure out like what, what is this and where are my boundaries at and what am I okay with?
And what am I not OK with um and that takes some figuring out but it takes some a lot of communication um a lot of a lot of discussions how long ago did y'all start in the lifestyle it's going on three three years i think so when you just i don't know Dan probably has questions I'm just asking questions because I'm curious but when you decided to run for office were you like oh crap I am a swinger how in the world am I going to do that it was like I'm assuming that was definitely something you thought of you know I I was so pissed off, the day that I decided to run for office that I didn't think about it.
Um, it, I had never, never thought about running for office before, um, was not on my bingo card, not on my radar, um, ever. And it was our current delegate. Um, I've kind of watched him. He's not been able to pass bills because in Virginia, the House majority is Democratic. So when when you have a Republican who is presenting bills and he has been known to be hard to get along with, my husband's a Republican. I'm a Democrat.
I know how across the party lines you know i'm i'm more independent i've always voted with common sense like yeah i can vote either way i guess so you said you didn't think about it so then you decide you're going to run were you like oh shit i'm a swinger what did i what was i thinking yeah so after it was a couple of days later i was was like, oh, so what was the thing that are not your standard politician? Because I'm not a politician. Yeah. I'm a pissed off person who resides in Southwest Virginia.
And really, to be honest, I've watched him try to get bills passed, and he's not done a lot for our district. He's very self-serving as an attorney himself. But it was House Bill 1727 of this current year that kind of did it for me. And it was the bill that he voted against the severing of parental rights for a rapist and a child born of that rape. So the bill was presented as if a man rapes a woman, she gets her pregnant and there's a child born of that rape. Then the parental relationship is severed automatically. There is no parental rights.
There's no parental establishment, no birth certificate, no, you know, anything with that, the rapist. And he voted against that. And, um, you know, I'm pretty open about my, my life to this point. Um, I was abused when I was a child, for a long period of time. And that just hit me really, really wrong. Um, so that was personal for me. And when I realized the election was coming up and nobody was running against him, um, you know, he's comes from one of the wealthiest families in the County.
Um, and nobody, nobody had thrown their hat in to run against him i was like you know what i i'll do it i'm i'm doing it and it was within days i filed to run and then i realized oh i'm a swinger wait a minute they're gonna do some opposition research on me and it's probably not gonna be that hard to find yeah well it wouldn't have been hard to find um because like i said this is not something we hid from our adult children our adult children have ex-boyfriends they have ex-girlfriends um so again they it's known within a small circle we live in a very small town it would have come out um and um he would have the incumbent would have definitely tried to use that against me in a negative way um so i i realized quickly that i have to put this out um so that it's my and not somebody else's spin on it.
So Dan probably knows this, but I don't because Dan does the research. I just sit down and chat. That's kind of our dynamic. That's kind of our dynamic. So did you release a statement? Did you say, hey, I'm a swinger? Yeah. I released a, it was a long document, actually. And I kind of did that on purpose, thinking that if I made a long post, people really wouldn't read it. Oh, that's wishful thinking, right? But I could say that, hey, I put it out, you know, and that's not what happened. It's not what happened at all. People did read it.
And, um, and um and and the the press release that i put out was more about you know this is who we are and i know that that may look different um we may live a different lifestyle than you or you or you and that's okay and that's a beautiful part of being human and that's a beautiful part of um human nature really i mean and being american i mean think about it that's um we we should have the freedoms to live our lives the way that we want to live them as long as we're not hurting anybody else um and unfortunately i mean the laws in virginia still make this class four misdemeanor um who's gonna press the charges i'm not sure but you know um my husband definitely is um but yeah you said there's laws on the books in virginia that makes swinging illegal is that what you're saying?
Yes, the way the adultery law in Virginia is written. It just says that any type of intercourse with someone other than your spouse is you're guilty of a class form misdemeanor. And it was attempted to be repealed in 2016 and in 2019, and it failed both times. And I'm hoping to work with the guys with open um and try to really um push that um through and it's cool because i have this group of other candidates who are all running in virginia too and they all know my story and i'm like if i don't win and one of y'all do yeah you you gotta push that through.
You gotta, you gotta present it again to decriminalize, um, a lifestyle that a lot of people follow a lot of politicians, let's be honest, at least change terminology, um, how it's written. And I thought that was cool. So I was looking at your Facebook page and I saw a post and it was, I think was audio from a radio show or something. But they were talking about you and then another girl and she was a fetish model or something, I believe. Yes. And she was actually running as a Republican.
But that was something that had got brought up is that, you know, people were trying to judge her for being, you know, a model in the past and doing like BDSM fetish type photos.
So it is interesting is interesting you know that we advocate a lot for sexual freedom and we work with groups like open and ncsf and it it is crazy to me that in 2025 your employer or the the government still cares who you have and how you have consensual sex with people and that that can be used against you by your employer i mean you can get fired for that and also you know the government you know how many people you can can sleep in a an apartment you know there's all these second and third order effects that affect people um and a lot of it's from stuff like you talked about these these laws that have been on the the books forever.
I did 21 years in the military in really the last year, we were pretty public about being swingers. And I was terrified because there's still, you know, stuff within the UCMJ and stuff that's about adultery that they could, could have used against me. And I'm like, man, you know, I've been to Iraq, you know, in Afghanistan twice. And I had like four deployments and, you know, bronze stars and all this stuff, but something as simple as being outed as a swinger could have ruined that entire career could have led me to lose my retirement and my medical benefits.
And, you know, from something that's just consensual between consenting adults. So it is crazy to me that for some reason we haven't seemed to move that across the, you know, the goal line of, hey, people can, as long as it's between consenting adults, what you do in your private spaces is up to you. I really think that that should be like in the Constitution. You know what I mean? We should amend the Constitution. Just start right there and forget the rest of it, you know? right? No, I I'm, I'm with you on that.
Um, it does come down to personal freedoms and, you know, if people can claim personal freedoms, um, on other things, um, as far as how children are educated, you get to choose between if you want to put them in public school or private school or homeschool, you have those types of things that should be protected. And you have just a, you know, the American way is to be free. Yet there are groups of people, including us, who are chastised for the way we live. Um, and for whatever reason, people, nothing gets people more riled up than, than what people are doing in their bedrooms.
And what I have found is that some of the very ones who, um, have attacked me online, you know, I'll get inbox messages, uh, from people who know them and are like, I don't know who they are talking because we know what they do. Oh, yeah. That's always the case. It's always the loudest one that's either wants to do it or is probably doing it. Yeah. Well, and that's what my husband has said. He said, you know, he said, we aren't doing anything that the majority of people, one, have either not thought about doing or want to do, and they're not allowed to do it.
They're either in a relationship that doesn't – that's not going to work for that relationship. And, yeah, so it's – it definitely does come down to what we have the right to do. And I'm hoping if nothing else, you know, this took a completely different turn from, from running for office for the House of Delegates to, I feel like I've already won. And it doesn't have to be the election that I win, because if anything else, I've paved the way for other people who are in alternative lifestyles. You know, I took the brunt of it, right?
I took the initial brunt of every news article talking about it, the Stephen Colbert talking about it, the, the association with all, all of that. Um, and now I hope if nothing else, I've given a voice to people who would be excellent leaders in our communities, um, and, and in government to just be okay with being who they are and not being afraid to run for office because of something that you have in your background like this, that, you know, necessarily politicians don't come out with. They usually hide from it or it's found out later or there's some type of scandal.
And so the fact that I owned it from the beginning, I think was the shock, the shock factor of just put it out. This is who we are. And I think voters can look past that, um, if they pay attention to policies, if they pay attention to what I stand for, um, and what I'm running against, I think people can overlook it. And the majority of people have. I mean, I've gotten more support.
I can't tell you after the Stephen Colbert show had, you know, five hundred dollars here, five hundred dollars there, two hundred dollars here, twenty five dollars there coming from all different states from people who saw it and immediately donated to my campaign. And I was like, I guess, you know, swingers are going to be the ones who donate to my campaign. Then my campaign will be funded from, you know, it's, um, you know, it, it hasn't hurt me. Um, I have pretty thick skin and we can relate to that.
So, I mean, it was what, four or five years ago we went public on tiktok and similar to kind of what you're saying is it was like the third tiktok lacy posted about being a swinger went like super viral had over 11 million views and and very quickly now everybody in our life and in our world knows that we're swingers um you know and at that time there was four or five people that were posting about being swingers on pod on tiktok and we reached out we became friends with most of them uh but but the funny thing like you're saying that paving the way is now there's hundreds if not thousands of people that are on social media openly talking about being in the lifestyle and being swingers it's it's becoming more and more popular so i think you're right by you saying hey i'm running for office and me being non-monogamous doesn't change who i am and if anything i'm actually going to be authentic and tell you who i am and you know a lot of these other politicians will will probably chastise me for this but you know to your point a lot of them are probably having affairs on their their partners or you know are watching you know threesomes and that type of porn on their phone at night every night but but they're but publicly they're going to tell you what you're doing is wrong even though they probably have similar fantasies themselves so i think being unapologetic unapologetically out there like that and unafraid to then take the the scrutiny that comes with that is definitely a way to pave you know for future generations even like you said even if you don't win the election you're still moving that bar forward a little bit right right and then i do have quite like how did people react how many you know dms because like when we went public you know there was a lot of people that publicly you know would say oh that's bad that's wrong how could you do that your poor children you're poor you know whatever and then some of those same people are then messaging us on facebook in the dms and being like so how do you find clubs and yeah how did you talk to your partner yeah i think people like are very quick to judge but at the same whatever sporting against pta meeting whatever we're at we also have people that are like so tell me about that again like or people you know or family members or whatever you know sliding into the dms being like we're not swingers but we have sex with just females and i'm like okay well yeah you are a swinger but we call it whatever you want you know so realize it yeah yeah so we definitely had people that they would never publicly admit that this is something that they're into, but they 100% are.
Yeah. I think a lot of people are more involved in it than they realize. They just don't put a label on it. Yeah. Which is okay. I mean, I get that. You know, I think there's a whole new generation of swingers that don't understand that they're swingers. So I think that's okay. And if you don't want to call yourself that, you don't have to. But have you seen a lot of people that have been supportive and they're like, oh, we had no idea we are too and stuff like that? Have you gotten a lot of that? We have.
We've gotten a lot of people just saying thanks, know for being honest people have said you know hey I'm not with you politically on your side but I'm sending you some money anyway just because you're honest and um we appreciate that um there are you know before we came out we we did give space to our friends and mostly our friends. Um, we let them know, Hey, we're coming out with this. We have pictures together, you know, cookouts and things of that sort with other couples and literally some in the lifestyle, some not.
And so we had to give space to those people for about a month ahead of time to say, Hey, we're look, we're, we're coming out with this. And, uh, if you want to delete pictures of us together that you have posted on your social media, if you want us to delete them, um, let us know because absolutely we will.
Um, because I didn't want people, I knew once I came out with that it people are gonna start looking at your social medias yeah and and start assuming uh oh well if they are then they must be because they're associated with them um but we did get a lot of support people were like we don't care we're proud of y'all for owning who you are um we got the most um pushback from my husband's family um we're in a we're in a very conservative area um we can relate to that very conservative and um his parents were upset you know that i was running as a democrat first of all and then they were upset when this came out um and um they've made it very clear that they are they're not happy about it um some people you can get through to by educating them and some people you just cannot.
But nobody else really in our family, you know, certain friends kind of backed off talking to us after we told them, hey, we're coming out with this. They did distance themselves, maybe stopped commenting on social media posts. Um, and you could tell they were just trying to separate for their own, for their own sake. Um, it has, you know, nothing to do. I mean, if I see them out in public, they're going to hug me, you know, there's, there's still our friends, but you could tell the ones who, who did want to separate.
Um, and then of course, if I entertained all of the comments on the news articles, I mean, I would be crying probably. Lacey can relate to that. I can relate to that. I don't have time to entertain fools, and that's just the way I look at it. If you want to come on and call me this name or that name, go ahead. I mean, that's on you, not on me. I'm happy. I lived my life the way I want to live it. We have a great marriage and much better than many marriages, in my opinion, because the transparency and the truthfulness and the honesty wrapped up in our relationship.
And I believe in, in a lot of relationships, um, with people who are swingers, it takes a lot of, of transparency and sometimes uncomfortable conversations, um, and and love and that's that's one of the biggest myths i guess around uh this is what i've heard you know oh well if you can allow him to do this with another woman you must not love him yeah he doesn't love you if he if he is allowing this to happen and that could not be further from the truth yeah we've heard all of that too so we can relate to all of that we totally get it i think being lost out is a lot harder work than i would say your average person gives credit to they just think we're just here to fuck other people and it's fun and it's wild and when the truth is it requires a lot of emotional work on the couple's you know part just to get to that point yeah absolutely it's toothful i think I think it takes a lot of emotional work on the couple's, you know, part just to get to that point.
Yeah. It's toothful. I think, I think it takes a lot of work. You have to look at your relationship and you know, the communication and all that, but there's also a lot of like looking inward at yourself and like, okay, if, if something happens and I do feel jealous, well, why is that? You know, like, I think there's a lot of introspective, like looking at yourself and kind of working on your own insecurities and your own issues. That really is a positive thing in the long term. It's hard work to do in the moment.
And it can be emotional and it can, you know, it can, it can cause, like you said, some rollercoaster rides. But in the long term, I think, you know, the person I am today compared to the person I was when we started this journey is a much more well-rounded person that really understands myself better. Yeah, I think like monogamy, it's almost like jealousy is okay and stuff like that. And I think in non-monogamy, you have to like really work through it and figure out the core root of that.
In a lot of ways, you know, in normal society and monogamous relationships, you're taught're taught that if yeah if somebody flirts with your wife or your girlfriend you're supposed to go fight them and beat them up and like that's how you show somebody that you love them is that if somebody gives them a little attention you're supposed to go start a fight and i just don't understand like you are a beautiful woman why can't a man passing by you say oh my oh my gosh you're beautiful right yeah no that's i i i get that and i'll tell you you know social media is so funny because you you get these memories pop up you know of how you you posted something four years ago or five years ago it was it's funny because was funny because I had posted one that said it was this meme or something that said, if something happens to me, it's not that I would want him to be happy, move along.
No, you get in this casket with me. And it was like, um, going from that mindset to where we are now of I would absolutely want him to thrive in life without me because I love seeing him thrive in life with me. And, um, watching his, um, self-esteem go up just from, you know, everybody likes to be flirted with. Everybody likes to feel attractive.
And, um, yes, you can hear it from your boyfriend or girlfriend, wife, husband, you can hear it, but it's not, it's not always the same as when a stranger validates it and so what it did for my own self-esteem and what I've seen it do for his is so attractive to me um because I see him in a in a different space um I see him happier um and that makes me happy you know I think when you love somebody you give them the space to be themselves and to explore all sides of themselves um and and I don't I don't know that one person can be one person's everything um You know, I don't think that you can find all of your pleasures in that one person because everybody is different and bring something else to the table.
So I agree. I couldn't agree more. Okay. I think now is the perfect time to take a little break and hear from the partners, the sponsors and partners of the Swing Nation podcast. And then when we come back, we're going to talk more politics for the first time ever on the Swing Nation podcast. Yeah. All right. We'll be right back, guys.
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It's going to bring you right over to Shameless Care. Or you can go shamelesscare.com forward slash TSN and get signed up. And we've got discount codes for you to save some on that first subscription. So go check it out, guys. Bye. Lacey, the question we get asked on social media and TikTok more than any other question is, how do I find lifestyle people, lifestyle events, lifestyle parties, lifestyle cruises, lifestyle people? I think I already said that. Yeah. In my area. Basically anything lifestyle you need. How do I find it?
You need to get on a Swinger website and SDC is one of our favorites. It's really big here in the Southeast US for sure. Yeah. And it has all the clubs listed. It has all the parties listed. You can find information on cruises. You can find our podcasts on SDC. Yeah, you can. And if you want to try it completely risk-free, we have a free trial link for you. We do, yeah. So how do people go and find that free trial link?
If you go to theswingnation.info and scroll to the bottom, you're going to find some of our favorite products and brands and you're just going to click that link and go straight there all right if you guys want to find lifestyle people in your area go sign up for sdc completely risk-free yeah um and see if it works for you i agree all right guys go check it out my favorite type of swinger is a safe swinger one that has done all the work before they even get to the club before they get to the party and they know that they are sti negative they've got it all figured out before they walk in so that way when it's time to play they don't even have to like skip a beat they're just like here are our results you can look at them on my phone or you can look them up for yourself we were tested everything came back negative we're good to go that's my favorite type of swinger what about you dan um i'm kind of one of those guys if you want to fuck like a porn star you probably should get tested like a porn star if we've learned anything over the last four years of doing this podcast is not all tests are the same the tests you're getting at your doctor might not be all the tests that you need if you're going to be actively participating in this lifestyle yeah if you go to your doctor and say i need a full panel std sti test that's whatever they think a full panel is there's not like a rule book that says you should check for these 10 things or 12 things heck we've been to some doctors and they have no idea what even should be tested for and what shouldn't so your best bet is to use I know my status because they know we're swingers they know what we're up to they been testing porn stars for years.
So they know how to get you tested and ready to go and have lots of fun. Yeah, they really are the gold standard in STI testing for the adult industry. And swingers, we're fucking a lot like porn stars. So those are probably the same tests that you need to be getting.
So head on over to know my status get signed up um if you're in the florida or vegas or orlando area um there's an office you can go in and get tested and you get your results back as soon as the same day if not they have draw labs located across the country yeah where you can go and you can get tested um and same they'll mail your result or your your labs into to the lab and you'll get your results back um i think you know as soon as a day or two depending on how long yeah it's pretty quick and it's it's worth notating if you go to your family doctor and they're testing for basically everything but maybe they're missing like a mouse swap or an engine test some of the newer things that you know maybe our family doctors are not testing for yeah testing for you can go to i know my status and just purchase those tests you don't have to go and spend you know a lot of money to pay for the whole thing you don't have to do that you can just go and be tested for the things that you need right yeah and you could even you know if you want to you could call them and say hey i these are the tests i get from my local doctor what am i missing yeah and i'm sure they would have a conversation with you about what they think you should be getting tested for and then you can order just those tests and go get those done we had a friend not long ago that somebody that they were engaging with wanted her to be tested for mgen she had they just go to their local doctor they know they're swingers it's not a big deal and so they went to a draw facility in their town and just were tested for that one test and of course it came back negative no issues and they were good to play right so go check out iknowmystatus.com go get tested like a porn star today so that we can play safe at our next event yeah all right guys all right guys welcome back welcome back thank you for listening to our sponsors we love our sponsors we do all right so we're back breaking the rules talking politics uh okay so one of the questions we we so you've come out as a swinger now.
People have had a little time to process that. How has the response been with your, you talked a little bit about your dad or your husband's side of the family. What about your people, your kids, the people in your inner circle? Did most of them already know? And so it's not a big deal. Has there been kind of shockwaves?
I know we get asked questions all the time about our kids and things like that right and we are we our kids have been pretty wonderful i mean to be honest with you and we have adult children too and they've been pretty awesome well we have one that's 28 25 23 and she's almost 24 but um they're more interested in the lifestyle than they are not, you know, it made them start asking their own questions about how do I feel about this?
Um, because they, they all complain in their twenties that nobody is faithful, um, you know, and that, um, they have problems in their own relationships with, um, that and maybe this is the answer for them. Um, it's definitely not something I would, um, that I've suggested to them, but I talk to them openly about how it's helped our relationship, how I feel like our relationship is stronger than it's ever been. And they're happy to see us happy.
And I think when, when children are able to see their parents happy and they're not, they're not being negatively affected by it, that, that is the answer.
You know, you know, you'd be honest with your children we also have a 13 year old he does not know um he's also homeschooled so i don't have to worry about him going to public school yeah i was about to say that's how ours found our youngest found out was school yeah about that age probably a little younger than that but yeah we we do plan to um tell him pretty soon because he'll be around family and it's inevitably going to be brought up and in front of him or he'll be in the next room and i don't want it to be something that he hears from somebody else my dad was the funniest he didn't really know um but i called him a couple days before and i told him and his exact response was it doesn't pull a hair off my ass so i don't care it sounds like my dad yeah that's my dad was like i think i would have made a pretty good swinger okay dad well my dad's trying to like figure out how to get on the cruises and stuff and i'm like whoa buddy like, whoa, buddy.
Like that's not. Right. We're not running into you dad. You can book your own cruise, but not the ones we're on. Yeah. You cannot go on these cruises. Sorry. So it is interesting that the, you know, wide response you get. And I know, you know, a lot of people get on to us because we do have, you know, one that's 15 and still in high school. And they're like, oh, that poor kid, he must get bullied. And there is some truth to that.
People have said things him that are you know not nice at school and stuff like that but you know the for us it's always been like that is sad and it's unfortunate that that happens but the only alternative is to say i'm not going to be authentically who i am because i'm afraid of bullies and that's just not a message i want to share with my kids is let society let the bullies decide who you are and who you can be and who you can't be to me that's the entire entirely the wrong message i think in life you're gonna face bullies you're gonna face people that are gonna try to be mean and say mean things and you have to learn how to confront them and being living your life as the as authentically as you can and not being afraid of the bullies to me is the right message to teach children it teaches your own children to be the same way yeah well because if it's not non-monogamy it's going to be something else you know bullies are going to find something to pick on you for regardless that That's just kind of what it is.
Whether it's where your parents work, whether your parents are gay, whether your parents are, you know, anything, especially in a certain age group, they're going to find anything that they can to some kids, not all.
But there are the ones who will um especially if they hear it from their own families at home about hey this girl's running for office and you know this that and the other and then they go to school and they talk about it yeah well that's the unfortunate thing a lot of you know the the kids that have said things to our kids their parents their parents are the ones that told them their parents went to their kid and said oh hey son just so you know you know so and so's mom's a swinger like why would you go tell your kids that like why i don't understand that that's why bullies are the way they are encouraging your kids to go do something you know like well because those parents were probably the bullies before then or still are yeah they are still still trapped in that mindset of um they have a middle school mentality as well yeah so it's it's sad but uh we do plan to talk to our internet this one and teach him not just about what we do but but you know the whole ethically non-monogamous community as a whole yeah um and how there are different relationships you know they teach this in elementary school you know about there's some families who have two mommies and some families who have two daddies and some families who have a a mixed family of black and white multiracial um and i think this is just one of the next topics that start to normalize a little bit yeah um and it doesn't get normalized unless people start talking about it um and my child will learn from me not from somebody at school, about, you know, how we are and the benefits from it and how it's not for everybody.
Yeah. You know, basketball is not for everybody. Yeah. It's just with anything else. but so what i'm curious you know speaking of bullies has has your opponent tried to weaponize this and use it against you or do you think you coming out in front of it kind of took that away from him or how's that worked it definitely took the power away from him um to to be able to spin this I I've I've watched him he gets he gets um pretty nasty um in in his division of people, period. He's constantly pitting the right against the left and pushing conservative values.
I have noticed since I started to run against him that his his division posts have slowed down. And now he's posting more how he's a family man and he pushes conservative values for southwest Virginia and and that kind of stuff he's not he's not come out and said anything bad about me the the worst thing he said is that the Democrats are trying to put a radical progressive in office. And that's really it. He hasn't he hasn't said anything. But again, he has to be careful. We're in a small town. My husband's Republican.
And I also know a lot of people who will not take lightly to him talking bad about me. And those would be his voters, typically, would be Republican voters. So about a third of my ballot petitions were from Republicans. So he's going to have to be careful how he attacks me. Yeah.
So, you know, I looked into your district a little bit and it's something like seven seventy something percent republican uh you know trump won it overwhelmingly it seems like uh it seems like it's pretty consistently votes republican and stuff like that and so what would you say so people that are hearing you and you know i'm a pretty middle of the road guy myself i probably more libertarian than i am anything else you know i don't really go one way or the other and um so i hear you talking and you know seeing that your husband's a republican and you're a democrat it seems like you guys are pretty moderate middle of the road just do what's best for the people uh type of people so you know that's somebody i could get behind personally but what about people that are listening to you and you're and they're they're hearing what you're saying and they're like well you seem like a reasonable person and i agree with most of what you're saying but i don't know about this swinger thing like that's that might be a bridge too far for me i don't know if i can support somebody listening to this podcast they might already be thinking about it.
I would say to them that we have to look at who I'm running against. And are you more okay with me being ethical in my relationship and being transparent with you and putting mental health at the top of my legislative agenda or do you want to vote for somebody who voted to give rapists parental rights to babies they commissioned like they they conceived in the commission of a rape and i think you really have to start questioning morals at that point. Where does that make sense in this world? He promotes being 100% pro-life, which means in no circumstances is abortion okay. He's proud of that.
And you follow that up with a bill on House Bill 1727 to say that rapists should keep the parental rights to babies that they father. And I think what that speaks to women or anybody who loves women, who has a brother or I mean, has a sister, not a brother, has a sister, mom, girlfriend, wife, who could at any moment be the victim of, of a rape. What, what does that say to women as a whole, um, and the people who, who love them? Um, you know, me and my opponent are very different. Um, but what I do is out of love.
And I think if they'll sit down and have a conversation with me and not want to argue with me online about it, like, let's sit down, talk to me. My cell phone is public on my website that goes straight to my cell phone. Um, I'm very accessible to people and we'll have these conversations all day long. If that means that I'm able to normalize, um, to some degree, um, and help people understand and educate them just a little bit on something that is taboo or something they don't feel like is okay. Um, you know, for them, I think they can get past it really.
Um, because at the end of the day, they don't want the government in their bedrooms either right um so yeah i think that was you know most you know as somebody that identifies as mostly libertarian that that's the worst case scenario to me is to give you know outside agency powers to what happens in your bedroom i don't think there's too many people that would want to do that.
And so if that's, if you feel that way, that you don't want the government or your employer to decide what you can and can't do in the bedroom, well then how can you judge somebody else that's maybe doing something different than what you would do? As long as it's again, consenting adults that are doing it. Right. Right.
And that's what it boils down to these are consenting behaviors um between adults who are able to make decisions for themselves yeah i think another thing a lot of people don't understand about this lifestyle is it's it's not all about the sex you know i mean it's not all orgies and threesomes and group sex and and i think that's what people think of swingers that they are i mean that part is fun let's not love but it really is a sense of community you know you know this this is a community it's a thriving community you know it's a community that raises money for charities it's like you know the amount of toys that we get donated every christmas um from swingers is is crazy there's some of the most loving caring uh people that you'll ever encounter and the thing i love about swingers is how it is the one place where you go and you know in in today's world where everybody wants to oh you're woke or you're republican or you're this or you're that when you enter into a swingers club resort whatever you don't care what what people's jobs are how much money they make you don't care how they voted in the last election you know all this the stuff that we use to divide each other doesn't exist in these communities and so like when we said we've never talked politics on this podcast we've literally never talked politics on this podcast because we're generally we don't care about politics.
I just want to know you for who you are as a person, who your authentic person is. And I want to connect with you on that level. And if we do connect on that level, then maybe we can connect physically. Like that's what the lifestyle is about. And I think our world needs more of that, especially today and the way things are going. It is. And, you know, I'll. I'll speak on that for a second when you know when I first went to our first party right I was I was shocked you know at some of the things that I saw um but I left and my mind was just it was one one, blown a little bit.
And two, it opened my mind so much. And the people that were there were the nicest, most welcoming people. And you're talking all ages. You're talking all body types. You're talking from all walks of life. You're talking, you know, doctors and lawyers to waitresses and bartenders and everybody. And nobody, nobody cares. Nobody cares who you are.
All you all know is that you have one thing in common and is that you you have a like-minded mindset of of how your lifestyle is and again nobody cares about the politics nobody cares if if I if I connect with somebody I connect with them and I think there is a huge misunderstanding about when you go to these events, whether it's, you know, at a hotel or it's a house party or on one of the cruises or a resort, that there's this open orgy sex and you have to participate. And that's what it's all about. And that's not what it is.
It's not what it's about at all um i know for us like there's a lot of connecting that takes place um and if that's not there it's not there you know a lot of times we we go to events and we sometimes don't do anything um except for thrive and that the energy that comes from those events um and that that we um benefit from um within our own marriage you know um so okay well we're almost running out of time but if you do get elected um do you plan on advocating for this community are you going to be a voice um for swingers out there for for alternative lifestyles and what are some ways you think you can do that i will um there are bills that can be passed um that can one decriminalize in virginia which is what we talked about a little bit earlier um and and that simple um you know creation of a bill and getting it passed through the house and the Senate.
And I have experience doing that on another bill that I've presented even as a, um, citizen, not, not being in politics. Um, so there, that would definitely be, um, one of the things on my agenda. I can't say that it's at the top because really mental health and the safety of children and some of the other things that are right at the top of my heart and passion is with mental health care. And children who are being abused and stricter punishments for those who, um, abuse children.
Um, I don't think anybody should walk out of prison after seven years after they've ruined a child's life forever. Um, and, um, so there are those things.
But of course, you you know delegates pass bills and present you know tens to 20 bills a year um when they when they go into a session so is it something that i would definitely push yes and this is something that i have every potential candidate in my chat group on board with absolutely um because now they know somebody that this effect um and it's not just a piece of paper yeah and i think that's the most important part i think you know people hear the word swinger and they make all these assumptions and you know i think it's similar for the gay community you know the same thing you heard somebody's gay and you made all these assumptions but once you get to know somebody and now there's a name and there's a face and especially if it's somebody you know maybe you know you probably have several friends you grew up with that have known you your whole life and they didn't know this part of your life and then they learn that you're a swinger and they're like wait a minute like maybe these i know her she's she's not a bad person like right that's i think that's how you change people's opinions about a community is through just exposure and saying i I'm part of this community and look at me.
I'm not I'm a good, you know, I'm not your normal neighbors. Yeah. And that's where my photography business that I had for many, many years comes into play is because I did make so many connections with people in this area and people in this district outside of politics and outside of anything else other than that. They knew when they brought their babies to me to take pictures of them that I loved them. And I built those connections with people. And they know me as a person. They know where my heart is.
And I think once you have that they they can see past the other things um just for the simple fact again that they don't want people in their business richmond doesn't belong in their business washington dc doesn't belong in their business as far as um what consenting adults do sorry my dog just had puppies she's back there squealing i've heard little noises and i thought i was like it kind of sounds like kids but you said your kids were all grown but no oh my goodness what kind of dogs are they they're back at home oh yeah adorable don't show lacy any puppies we don't need no more dogs so somebody i follow on tiktok That a baby goat last night and i'm like oh i need a goat they're so cute they're the best therapy ever we have a little farm here and we had 40 goats oh my god i just want them when they're babies when they're if you go on my tiktok page one of the first videos i posted was of our baby goats and they're jumping around in the barn oh it's so cute and it's so therapeutic yeah i can imagine well it sounds like to me you you're kind of fighting a little bit of an uphill battle and that sounds like you might need some support yes we happen to have a few swingers that follow us that listen to this podcast and they might not be Virginia residents.
But my understanding is they can still support you if they want to. They can. Any United States citizen can donate to my campaign. And I would love that support from this community. And I love the the fact too, that when people look at my financial report and they see that these donations are coming in from all across the country, they know, like this community is showing up for her, um, cause she's one of them. And like I said, you don't have to be Democrat. You don't have to be Republican. I'm a Democrat. My husband's a Republican. We both are very moderate.
I have voted on both sides of the aisle before. And I vote on common sense and I vote on people before profits. And I think that's the type of leadership we need.
and um i'll be at world pride this weekend and i'm hoping to meet uh several people i'll be hanging out with people at open um but i do have a website it's yvonne roar.com um and there is a donate button on there if somebody wants to to help donate to my campaign i would appreciate it so much can you can you spell that out for us just for people at home and i'll put this in the show notes so if you're listening to this uh the link will be down in the show notes for that But just spell it out for us just for people that might be at home? And I'll put this in the show notes.
So if you're listening to this, the link will be down in the show notes for that. But just spell it out for us real quick. Yeah, it's Y-V-O-N-N-E-R-O-R-R-E-R.com. Okay. And if they go there, they can find out about you. And you said there's a link or something in there where they can go and make a donation yeah it's there's a red donate button on there um and that will take them through act blue there's also a um a p.o box there um where they can print out a form if they wanted to mail a check instead um they don't have to um necessarily make the donation through that link.
There's a couple ways to do it. And people can always reach out to me if they have questions or just want to pick my brain. I am accessible and I will be for everybody in my district as well. That's another big thing for me is your job as a delegate is to take the people's voices in your district to Richmond. That's your only job. Yes, you can feel the way you feel about how you want to vote on other bills that come through.
But at the end of the day, my job is to talk to the people, you know, in this area, see what their issues are, what roads need to be fixed to be fixed what you know what is the top of their their issues and you push those bills through to richmond you get the bills passed and that's that's what we do um but i i would love the support of our community i don't i don't have i i like I said, large corporate donations. Um, I don't, I'm not going to be owned by anybody who expects me to do anything for them once I get into office.
Um, so while Dominion Energy is stuffing $63,000 into my opponent's account, you know, I get $100, $50, $200, $500 donations from donations from people you know around the world and or around the country um they can be around the world too as long as they're u.s citizen okay well we appreciate i know since this whole internet thing has blown up that people have been blowing you up for for podcasts and and coming shows and things like that. We really appreciate the time. You come in and sit down with us and having the conversation.
I think it was a great conversation and I think our listeners will appreciate it. When is voting day? When is the election itself? It's the beginning of November. I won't. Um, so I'll be in the November election, um, which is, which is good. It gives me several more months to plan.
I've got some media clips that are going to be coming out, um, of people who know me personally, um, outside of, um, politics and, and swinging, um, people who've worked for me and our bosses and things like that just to speak on who i am as a person um and i think people take the time to get to know me i'm i'm i think i'm pretty likable well i can verify she she has a tanning bed and a hot tub yeah so i think her swinger credentials are valid yeah i mean we haven't seen her at any parties we have some mutual friends we do so you know maybe we're at naughty we'll talk to them and verify you know for real but uh we might see you she seems to be authentic are you gonna be there maybe we would love that well if you're there we need to get together and make some tiktoks and stuff and then that'll help as well too yeah we'd be happy to do that well we hope we hope to see you there that's only a few weeks away yeah i know we'll be here before we know it and if you want to go you can go to swingerstudy.net and get your tickets there's not many rooms left so if you are interested please go do that all right well thank you for sitting down with us we appreciate it i know uh for all the listeners go go support her i think we need representation of this community i think is very important.
Swingers like to show out. They will come out of the woodworks to support each other. I know my dad just passed and the most supportive friends and people when my dad passed were all swingers. Thank you. They're some of the best friends we have. For sure. Anything else you got for the Swing Nation listeners before we go? I don't think so. I think if you're in my district, though, you should vote for me. I think you should, too. I think you should, too. All right. Well, I think with that, in a world full of apples. Be the pineapple. Be the pineapple, guys. Be that. Bye. Bye, guys. Yeah.
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