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In our friend groups, it gets talked about. This might be one of the hottest topics in the lifestyle, but not just the lifestyle, around sex. Yeah. And what is that? Does dick size matter?
Does penis size, cock size, dick size, schlong size doesn't matter yeah and as per the usual i have all the stats and i have not even i have all the facts i've done all the research yeah lacy has no idea what we're even talking about no i know we're talking about dick size and damn said before like before we started to film he or record he said how do you feel about measuring my dick and i was like okay let's just do it all right so i think what we're going to do for the sake of research take a research well as i began research like a lot of topics that yeah i think we need a backstory on why we're measuring your dick like i feel like they need a little well little.
Well, I think we get into it when we get into it. Okay. But I think before we get to all of that, I want to know, because you haven't done any of the research. No. You haven't read any of these articles or studies, haven't even looked at the notes they sent you. What is your, give me your no-nonsense answer to that question. Does dick size matter? Does dick size matter? I do like a big dick. I think that is important to say. I do very much enjoy a big dick, but it is dick. Are you a size queen? That's what they call that, right? A size queen.
I mean, I don't like to consider myself a size queen.
I do appreciate a good, good-sized just say that i do very much appreciate it but i've had guys fuck me with average or even below average size cocks and do a very very good job and rock my world so i don't think it always matters but you have to have some other stuff going for you okay if that makes sense right i've also been fucked with a big dick and it not be good and it's been hurtful and stuff like that too so i don't think like just having like a larger cock just automatically makes you like amazing right i i love this because you have no idea what we're going to talk about but you're still hitting you're hitting a lot of it yeah all right so my again i've already done all the research but my before we get into it answer yeah is of course it matters right yeah if you say like dick size does not matter that'd be like saying when you cook salt doesn't matter you know i mean like it is a part of the recipe right yeah it is the size of your dick of course whether it's big small humongous tiny like all of that's going to matter yeah in some way yeah right and just how and why it matters is kind of the key and honestly i think does dick side as matter is the wrong it's the wrong question yeah does it matter does it matter for what like is it is it a variable in the in the answer absolutely but is it the only variable or you know like i think not so we'll get into that okay all right but before we talk about does dick size matter yeah we need to talk about realistic expectations wait i thought i was You're just measuring your dick.
Of dicks. Yeah.
yeah right and so part of that is you're gonna measure my penis i almost said live on the air but on the podcast we're gonna do this we're gonna cut we're gonna cut all right you're gonna get me hard i'm gonna fluff him and then i'm gonna come back you're gonna measure we're gonna talk about my how to measure while you do it and that's kind of why we're doing it so we can talk about how to do it because people are cheating out there all right so we're gonna go over how to measure a dick we'll talk about my measurements and then we're gonna talk about what average sizes are and then why that matters so do you remember that time the guy sent me a picture of his dick on only fans and he like had it up against a monster can so you're saying like we shouldn't use a monster can to measure your dick well i think no i mean i think as long as you have a scale uh that matters i will say to the ladies that get cock pictures if there is not something for reference in that picture yeah like to me a monster can is that's good because at least you you can compare that right that is true that's a monster can i know roughly what size that is that's a penis i can relate it's the ones where they send you a penis and it looks huge but there's nothing for scale where you're true that's a good point is this really big or is it like he's super zoomed in and that's a good point all right you can get those angles on a dick pic you can absolutely do that all right we're gonna take a little break when we get back i'm gonna have her hard on and lacy's gonna be measuring me okay i'll be right back all right we are back and i got lacy over here kind of on her knees between my legs we're gonna have to share a microphone um but you're doing you're gonna be the measurer okay and then keep it keep it going don't don't let me yeah oh oh that's not what I was meant but yeah do that uh all right so this is how to measure penis length okay are you ready all right you're gonna position your ruler or measuring tape at the base of your erect penis where it attaches to your body.
All right. Press it into your pubic bone as far as you can until it contacts the bone. This is especially important if you have a tummy, right? So I'm at the top. We're measuring from the top of my penis. Lacey's kind of pushing it in as far as she can go. And she's going to extend the tape to the tip of my dick. And what do you get? It's almost eight inches. Seven and three quarters? Yeah. Seven and three quarters? Okay. All right. So, that's length. Yeah. All right.
Now, we're going to do a girth measurement using a soft measuring tape or a piece of string uh make sure it doesn't stretch uh if you're using string or yarn make sure it doesn't it's not stretchy uh gently wrap the tape around the thickest part of your shaft does you think it's thicker here or down there all right the thickest part of your shaft uh note where the tapes meet I'll see. All right. Oh, wow. The thickest part of your shaft. Note where the tapes meet. And this is the number you're looking for. It says five and a half, but I'm going to check it at a different spot.
All right, five and a half at the base. This is like all the way down by my kind of stomach. Oh, no, that's five. That's five. Let me try one more spot. This is a little difficult, I feel like, to maintain. Yeah, I mean, this is definitely the biggest. Okay. Yeah. Let me try one more spot. This is a little difficult, I feel like, to maintain. Yeah, I mean, this is definitely the biggest down in here. I mean, it's almost six. Look at that. Almost six. Yeah. Down at the base. Okay. All right. All right. Lacey's going to. Am I done? Your services were very good. Okay. Let's take a.
Well, we'll just cut you back over there. She's going to go back to her chair. All right. Lacey's back in her inner seat with her microphone. Yeah. Not between my legs anymore, unfortunately. Are you still hard? I don't know. I think there might be a little audio. You sucking my dick might make it into this week's podcast, which is interesting. Okay. So what were, for the record, what were the official measurements? So seven and three quarters and five and a half. And a five and a half. All right. And again, we're not doing this. This is a science experiment.
I actually had no idea what your measurements would be. I thought it was going to be like eight. I thought it was going to be closer to 8. Yeah, it wasn't 8. It was 7 3 quarter range, right? Yeah. Okay. Alright. I have measured your dick one time. Before. Soft though, right? Yeah. Soft because we were trying to figure out if like if you were a grower or a shower. That became a topic sometime. And I googled it and it said if you're 6 inches soft Let's do it.
like if you were a grower or a shower that was became a topic sometime and i googled it and it said if you're six inches soft you are a grower and a shower i don't know how scientific that google search was no it's something about yeah if you're more than six inches you're a shower but then if you grow more than two inches no it was six inches soft you're a grower and a shower okay that's true you were six inches but i thought to be to make it into that grower category you had to grow a certain amount once you were hard it just yeah i don't remember exactly what that was but anyway all right so uh what is the reality of penis size okay and this is we're looking at according to a 2015 uh published in the british journal of urology right and it says the average size penis is five and one fifth inch wow five and one fifth inch in length um and the girth is four and a half inches in girth i'm surprised by the four and a half like the girth yeah i figured even smaller smaller than that yeah yeah so that's okay so a little over five inches a little over four and a half inches in girth is the is the average okay so the question ultimately because comes does that size matter and when we say does it matter what we're really saying is is this is the size related to the pleasure from sex not always no right and so that becomes the question right is so when you say does size matter to me it's like well of course it matters it's it's a variable in this equation so it has some role so it it does matter but the ultimate question is if can you still pleasure somebody regardless of the size of your penis to me the answer to that is ultimately yes yeah right and you don't have to take my word for it there actually was a there's been research on this that says can you correlate size dick size to pleasure uh and what i found you know i read several different things but one of the more famous ones or whatever uh was done by some sex researchers and these are no shit their names masters and johnson oh my gosh one of the guys name was johnson that's pretty good what they did is they found these uh college girls and they were age 18 to like 25 yeah and they sat them down and uh i think they're they were like psychology or psychologists or something uh and they asked them all these questions so basically like they asked them what what size is your boyfriends or you know what size dick have you you know they're asking them what size dick and then they're saying okay well are you satisfied from your partner and then they ask questions like oh was you know of the sexual partners i just don't know if 18 year olds are really right they were 18 to 25 i was about to say like i didn yeah.
But you have sex at that age. You know whether you enjoy it or not. I mean, true, but I didn't really know. But anyway, so they collect all, they ask all these questions, they collect all this data, and then they try to correlate that data by saying, okay, is there anything in here that says, you know, if the female says her husband or boyfriend or whatever has a bigger dick, that then she says she has more pleasurable sex.
And essentially, the conclusion they come to is there's no it's impossible to correlate pleasure that they're saying they receive to a certain size of penis i don't know if that's like i don't know how you would study that i guess that's the way you would study it i don't know but it seems so subjective right yeah i feel like like a blind study. I mean, that would be a very hard thing. You mean a blind study like you lay somebody down and blindfold them and fuck them with different sized dicks? Yeah. And then like rate it on one to ten? Yeah, I mean, you could do different sized dildos.
Are you volunteering for this study? I would do it. I would do it. I would do that. Like, personally, if it's dildos, you know? Oh, dildos. Yeah, I mean, why? Well, I mean, dildos, not a dick. Well, I know, but they can get different sized dildos if we're worried about size. It probably would be easier to control that variable. Yeah. But, I mean, I would, for science, I might contribute to the real dicks. Right. And, you know, the study goes on. But, ultimately, what it's saying is that is just a factor. Yeah.
The dick size is just i agree with that and because of all these other variables yeah it's that one factor does not make a decipher you know like a it's indisputable evidence that it's directly related to pleasure yeah which i think is kind of common sense if you really stop and you think about it well but i think like when someone's self-conscious about something common sense doesn't always play a role in it no oh 100 i mean because like i've dated guys in the past or been with guys in the past that were self-conscious about it and honestly it didn't matter what i said or what i did it was something that was in their head and nothing i could do would change that i i would 100 uh agree with that um the one of the other things of noting here is in these studies in these dick size studies it says that 80 if you ask any random guy like what the average size dick is 85% of them will tell you a higher number yeah what it actually yeah so there's some psychology in that is like you know a guy knows what size he is but he doesn't know what everybody else is yeah but if he perceives that everybody else is larger than what they actually are yeah he's almost cutting himself short you know well i'm just thinking about the guys that i played with or had sex with that have said something about their penis size not being like as big as yours or big as another guy i would guarantee that most of them around the five inch mark maybe a little low maybe a little higher but around like none of these guys have like micro penises or anything like that like so i think that like you nailed it there as far as like the average like the size like what most men consider a large penis right okay so why we measured my dick and why we're really talking about this in particular in this front half is as i was reading into this something that became interesting to me is that some of these studies that says most men wear the wrong size condom because they don't they don't understand you know size which is very important because i've had a guy put on the wrong size condom and it came off before just because in the heat of the moment you're just grabbing stuff you know i get that um and when you know condom comes off then especially in the lifestyle you know you could possibly spread something get someone pregnant you just there's a lot of variables that right we don't even go down yeah so stds and stis are one especially things like herpes that can spread to just skin to skin to contact if your condom isn't long enough you know you might have exposed skin near the base of your shaft and so you can spread stds and then also um it says people wearing the wrong size condoms is often um the reason for a condom breaking yeah so if you have a bigger penis and you're wearing a condom that's not the right size uh it can break and then the opposite if you were having a smaller size penis and your condom's not snug enough with what you said it can then come off so sizing your condoms correctly is very important and then it also goes on to say if you if you don't wear latex so latex is like why latex is used in most condoms is because the most forgiving they can stretch the most and stretch in the most so it's kind of the most forgiving but if you're wearing like the lambskin or some of the other materials that aren't latex they are less forgiving they're less stretchy they're more likely to break they're more likely to slip off and fall off so especially if're somebody that doesn't use latex condoms, which we don't a lot of the time because there's so many people that have.
Yeah, we kind of switch to latex free. When we play, we often use latex free because there's people that have sensitivities to that. And so getting the right size condom is even more important when you're dealing with materials other than latex.
So this is something I want to talk about real quick, real quick condom sizes right so we talked about seven and three quarters and six and a half was me right so here's what condom size is five and a half five and a half yeah you're trying to add an extra it was at least six and a half no it was not see okay no you're right this is men right here i just i honestly didn't sure anyway all right for length a snug condom which is that's one of the sizes snug will still will go lengthwise between seven and eight inches in length for a snug condom like is that like a normal size brand like a normal right for this i guess they they must have measured a bunch of brands but most of them it says you know it says between seven and seven point eight inches well that's a big dick right standard condoms go from seven and a half in length to eight inches yeah so some of the snug condoms stop at seven uh regular size condoms they're between seven and a half and eight inches.
condoms again 7.25 to 8.1 wow and then extra large condoms 7.25 to 8.7 so what size are normal guys supposed to wear the snug right so this is length now if you have a but this is your length not your width right so even if you have a five inch dick the condoms roll so you don't have to roll it all the way oh okay sorry i'm not a condom because when i thought about condom sizes i was thinking length too yeah when you read this it's like they're basically all the same length you know what i mean uh it's the girth and here's yeah and we're going to talk about uh the girth okay yep all right so here's the girth.
Snug condoms have a girth of four and a half inches or less. Okay. So if you have a girth of four and a half inches or less, snug condom, regular. Have you ever seen one that says snug? I don't know that I've ever. I might have seen them. I'm going to look because I don't, that isn't. Regular, 4.7 to 5.1 inches okay so if you are a regular if you're buying regular condoms and you have you know you're bigger than 5.1 inches you're wearing a condom too tight and what was the average again i think what we said the average uh average is four and a half okay right so that?
So that falls in line with the regular size. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So average falls in line with it, which makes sense, right? And then large condoms, 5.1 to 6 inches. Okay. 5.1 to 6. So that's the category I would fall. And then they make extra large condoms which is for people with a girth of over 6 inches. So I usually buy magnums which I don't know if is magnums a large or an extra large. I don't know. I usually buy them for you and I think I've gotten extra large to be honest with you. I thought Do they make a large condom? I don't know but I feel like I don't know to be honest with you.
I just grabbed that box. And I was surprised by that. Like, when they said four sizes, I was like, okay, I know there's regular and I know there's, like, magnums. Yeah. And I guess I've probably seen the snug ones before, but I don't know what the difference between a large and an extra large is. But anyway, there you have it. I didn't know there was a snug. I've never heard of that.
But I'm super curious to look next time.'re in the condom aisle yeah because i wonder like especially in the lifestyle how many wives are just buying the condoms you know like i usually just either order them from amazon or add them to like our grocery order so i don't typically like look so i'm curious how many wives are just getting just regular because that's what you think they need yeah no i agree i think this is something i never really and to be completely honest with you i did not buy magnum condoms until i started in the lifestyle yeah and i was wearing you know when i was in high school and stuff i just bought normal condoms because i had no fucking idea that my dick wasn't normal you know i mean i just didn't know and so i was buying normal ones and they were pretty tight and i hated them and yeah but you just thought that that's what i got in the lifestyle somebody's like why are you wearing like there was somebody told me they're like you need a magnum condom like what are you doing and i was like oh i don't know they're like no try this and i was like this is so much better yeah and so i've just been wearing that ever since yeah i don't know all right another interesting thing that was in this study is um of those 50 females that were um surveyed majority of them said they prefer girth to length really right so when they asked about okay if you if if you know when considering penis size would you rather have somebody with a more girth or more length most of them said more girth um i have mixed emotions about that i don't know if you're asking me my opinion but i have this says they surveyed 50.
45 said they would prefer girth to length i would prefer a little bit of both you know like because i've been with a guy who was very girthy but not very long and it was to be honest with you it was very painful for me because it was so girthy right and so like yeah if you look at him it looks like a big penis because he's like you know like girthy you know he was probably average but so he's like a five inch dick but it's yeah it's that six inches yeah and i just i personally did not like you know like girthy you know he was probably average but with but super like a five inch dick but it's yeah it's that six inches yeah and i just i personally did not enjoy that it felt uncomfortable for me yeah um so i think i like a combination of the two if that's an option so in this study they when they're talking about why they thought it was that more women you know referred to gir to girth over length, they said it was – they think it's because it's more clitoral contact.
So your clitoris isn't just your – you know, most people think of the clitoris. They think of that little nub kind of at the top of your vagina. But in reality, if you just Google, like, image of a clitoris, it's more of like a wishbone shape, right?
So the nub is at the top but then there's two kind of two um things on either side yeah so if you have a girthy dick you can you're in could be in contact with more of the clitoris as you're having sex which could be more pleasurable that was their like speculation on why they thought people preferred with over or i didn't know where it was at 18 so i wouldn't have been very good for this study well no they didn't the doctors oh the doctors it wasn't the girls that were guessing the girls just said length or girth and then the doctors were like we think it could be because yeah does that make sense yeah all right okay so can I ask a question what is considered a micropenis did you look that up I did not you want me to go yeah I would like to know.
All right. I'm going can I ask the question, what is considered a micropenis? Did you look that up? I did not. You wanted me to Google it? Yeah, I would like to know. All right. I'm going to Google it real quick for us. What is a micropenis? Because that is a term that gets thrown around. But I don't want to give somebody like a complex. Well, you asked the question. Well, I'm curious.
This says a penis that measures 3.67 inches or less okay 3.67 inches that's hard there's fewer than 200 000 cases per year of men diagnosed with a micro penis who gets how do you get diagnosed with one i don't know because I've never had my penis measured before. I think that that number is probably much higher. But men, who, who, what doctor is like, hold on, sir, let me get your heart and let me get a ruler. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. So anyway. I bet that's higher. This study goes on and part of the study, which I found, this is interesting.
It says, you know, when you talk about penis size, what do you think about initially? When you're like, oh, does he have a big dick? Length. Length, right. And that's what they say is like most people, when they're talking about dick size, they are just thinking about that length measurement. And I can, like, if you told me how, if you just said how big is your dick, I'd be like, oh, it's, you know, just shy of eight inches or seven and a half, between seven and a half and eight inches. I would never be like, I didn't even know my girth size until you measured it just now.
And it says, if you're really going to consider the size of somebody's dick, the girth really is probably the more important measurement in that consideration. So I found that very interesting. It is interesting. All right. I think now it's time to take a little break. Hear from the partners and sponsors of the Swing Nation podcast. And then when we get back, we're going to get more in-depth into dick size and why it matters. Okay. All right? All right, we'll be right back, guys.
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We want you to try Cassidy completely risk-free by using the 90-day Elite Membership Trial link in our show notes, or by going to theswingnation.info and clicking on the Cassidy banner under Favorite Apps and Products. all right guys welcome back welcome back we're here talking about all things penis um my favorite topic lacy sucked my dick on the podcast for the first time ever we should make that more we should do that more often oh i'm sure yeah we should do that more. Can you commit to that here on the air? No, I cannot. Okay. All right. That's like a one-time performance. Okay.
It wasn't one time? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. All right. When we left off, we were talking about dick size. Yeah. On this side of the tip break, I want to talk about, is bigger always better? Bigger's not always.
Why is bigger not always better always better because you gotta know what to do with it you know especially if you're really big you could hurt someone um your dick is not we've learned it's it's big but it's not abnormally big and i'll be honest with you you have to be careful with me because you could break me especially if we have a lot of sex within a short amount of time um so i think like if you're really big you could you know you could hurt someone um to me if you're very girthy that's that's uncomfortable for me um and also i've fucked many of men that have an average or even below average dick that have rocked my world.
Right. So, here are my show notes. It says some things like, studies have shown that men with bigger than normal dicks have a higher case of injury with their partner. Yeah. And infection. Yeah.
Well, that makes total sense because especially when you and I first started dating, we've talked about this on the podcast with dr store but i really struggled with like oh it's not talking about me it's talking about the guy having the infection no no i think it's talking about the oh okay but like i got a lot of like utis and stuff like when we first started it's like my body didn't know what the hell to do with you yeah i don't know maybe it's just because it's a bigger dick so there's more you know room for bacterial or maybe it's the bacteria is getting deeper into your vagina i don't know but it says right here and studies have shown that higher risk of injury and infections with yeah with larger dicks and like we have to be careful like leading up to an event a lot of times like going into like a swing or a party or whatever we are super turned on so that makes us want to have a lot of sex and if we're not careful i'll be like raw without for lack of better word um before we even get to it and like so we have to kind of like manage our sex so that way i can go into the weekend and still have like listen when you're going getting ready to go to a lifestyle event or you know a sex party so you're talking about it you yeah one you get super horny but two it's you're an athlete right and you have to condition your body oh god leading up into that event and you can't you can't have an injury you know i mean like if you have an injury you can't play in the game you know i mean like you'll get taken out before the game even starts so you have to practice you have to get in shape you have to get ready you have to be mentally and physically in tune with yourself but you can't go too hard and break yourself before the game starts and that has happened uh quite often where we have broken you before the game starts.
Yeah, we have like broken me. Or broken you the first day of Hedo or first day of the bliss cruise. Day two at Naughty, you're ready to tap out. Yeah, or like I've had hot sex that night, but yet you haven't came and we got to go back to the room. And I'm like, don't even, you know, don't even come near me with that thing. Daphne. Daphne, come take care of me. So, yeah, I definitely, that is a, that is 100% a yes for me. Okay. This also goes on to say that if your dick is too big, it can make some positions painful or even impossible. Some different, some sexual positions.
Have you experienced that? I have agreed. Yes. I know sometimes when I'm fucking you doggy, it can be too much for you. to cut like i'm like okay it's too much you know especially if we like if we start having sex that way it's almost like my body needs to like warm up yeah but i find that guys who have like a like a not even i hate to say smaller but like an average size penis i really like it dog, doggie, from guys like that. Right. Because they can go to town. They can go to town. And not have to worry about it. Right. And this also says too much girth can cause tearing. Yeah.
I'd imagine so. Right. If you had a big girthy dick, I mean, you could literally tear things. Yeah. That's not good. No.
And then it says you have to be especially careful during anal sex for that same yeah or tearing or you could just not do not let me have anal sex with her for that she's done it we've done it less than six times yeah yeah we have i'm sorry that's just you know you get what you get and don't put your fit you know you can't have it all babe uh-huh and then it says oh then there's the whole choking and gagging during oral sex thing girls do that no matter what size your dick is sorry guys sorry we love you all but we choke on your dick regardless of the size we know you love it we're not really choking i mean okay sometimes we're really choking but i would say a good I don't know.
love you all but we choke on your dick regardless of the size we know you love it we're not really choking i mean okay sometimes we're really choking but i would say a good half of that time we're not really choking i've had girls vomit yeah that time i'm sure she really was choking and i've there's been times where i am really choking as well but there's also times that i just like kind of like do it enough that I make that noise a little, but not, like, actually. Right. You're giving them audio stimulation. Yes. Right. But I've also, I mean, I've seen guys with, you know, smaller penises.
Not small, but, you know, smaller. Average. Right. Average penises. And then you see the girl going on them, and, like like licking his balls and like taking that whole thing in. And I'm like, that probably feels that's got to feel good. Again, like you can't have it all. You know, I bet those guys would be like, I would rather have like a big dick and just get like half of a blow shot. Yeah. Well, Mrs. Walker's going to do that. She can manage. I bet she can. She can. You didn't like that, did you? No, I don't really care. I didn't think you did. I'm just like, I'm not surprised.
No, you do it. No, I'm not a huge blowjob girl. I never have been. I can do it if I want to, but that doesn't get me off to get you off. Does that make sense? That's just not who I am. But some girls really, really like it. And you know what? It's a little bit. That doesn't get me off to get you off. Does that make sense? That's just not who I am. But some girls really, really like it. And you know what? More power to you. Yeah, I'm a big fan of those girls. That's why we are swingers. That's part of the reason. So that way I can watch you and you can have this experience.
And I don't have to do it. Yeah, so you read this. There's a lot of downfalls here. We just listened to a bunch of downfalls and having a big dick. No one feels sorry for you. Sorry. All right. Being smaller isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not. Smaller dicks can be easily handled. I feel like a rock star so I get a smaller dick.
It's easier to focus on pleasure when you don't have to worry about pain fitting it into your mouth is easier you just said you feel you feel yeah i mean i do like i like if if i am sucking a guy's dick that is a little bit smaller um that i'm what i'm used to i feel like i could do a better job and it makes me feel like kind of proud of myself i feel like miss fokker for even in like you know a little minute When they have a smaller dick. You're like, look at me go. If y'all don't know who we're talking about, Miss Falker is somebody that we've played with.
And she's gorgeous and amazing at giving head. And really good at giving head. And Dan very much enjoys that. I love it. Actually, we're going to see them at Tempted this weekend. Yeah. Maybe I'll be able to get some of that maybe uh and then it says small dicks smaller dicks rule and our top dogs when coming to anal comes to anal sex yeah i mean i've had more anal sex with my friends with some of your friends than you um yeah i'm just it's just not going in there i love you babe but it's just not happening.
I mean, I find pleasure from anal stimulation, like your fingers and stuff like that, but your dick is entirely too big. It would rip my butthole open. Sorry. TMI. No, it's true, though. I mean, whenever we make content, and it's not just Lacey, it's most females, when we make content, if we're going to do DP or something like that, they're all trying to find the guys with the smaller dicks to fuck them in the ass. Yeah. Which I'm kind of like, what the fuck? I'm sorry, babe. Can you, you know? Again, nobody feels sorry for you. All right. Size has nothing to do with stamina. Yeah, I agree.
Size has nothing to do with stamina. Yeah.
Why is it so hard to say for me stamina yeah reading it makes me up i agree again i feel like most guys with your average or even below average decks are probably gonna like give it to you like more because they're they want you to feel it more and they want you to be pleasured um so yeah i i don't think it makes i don't think having a you know again a dick size doesn't matter with that well i mean to me standing was like go to the gym like go work out correct i can remember it i don't i remember where we were when we were having an orgy um and we left we were coming out of the orgy and um i think it was a farmer was like giving high fives and stuff he's like good game guys it was a real good game some of you guys need to work on your stamina you know i mean like some of you he has good stamina yeah he has really good stamina he can he yeah like you got you know cardio guys cardio for next time for the next game want you all to work on your cardio he works out a lot or at least again he looks like he works out a lot i don't know what if he is but it's true i mean if you if you are in good physical shape and have good cardio good stamina like you can go yeah your dick size is really not that important it's not you can have a giant dick and if you don't know how to do it or get tired after two strokes or like you know lay there like a lump on a log like it's not going to be as much of a uh not gonna be as enjoyable for people correct the biggest way the size affects people is mentally no i can totally agree um and honestly i like i said earlier i have been with guys that have average or below average cocks and their attitude towards it has ruined it i mean it's you know it's kind of the same thing like if your dick can't get hard you know i'd much rather you say fuck the dick let's just let's just do all the other things like we can still have a great time like if you're standing in the corner pouting like jerking off trying so hard to make you know that's just gonna ruin it for everything and the same like because you know we've played with people that have commented on your dick being the side thing there's not and like none of that is important and it just honestly throws everybody off it puts a damper and it makes people like you feel like you need to say something and it just like none of that is important you know your confidence to be honest with you all the things that we've talked about if you are confident it doesn't matter how girthy you are how long you are what size condom you have if you have stamina none of that matters but if you have confidence and you walk into the room like you own it that's all that matters and i'll be honest with you the hottest guys and the guys that have the most swag usually have the below average dicks to be honest with you and everybody wants them yeah because that's just how it works so you've got to it's just something that you can't i don't know you can't dwell on you're going to ruin your experience and not only yours but everybody else I've had that happen we've been in playrooms before and I've got naked and guys have literally said well I can't compete with that yeah and it's like this well one this isn't a competition your dick has been topic of many of conversations when we are in play spaces and it's uncomfortable i don't know how to like how do you do you have to like talk about it beforehand like hey like how do you how do you stop that from like you get i don't know that it gets awkward because then i feel like i'm reassuring someone else's husband right no it's okay you got a great dick yeah and like that just like when we're all standing there naked and it's awkward we should have just ripped their clothes off and fucked each other and like yeah didn't have to show me what you can do with that average dick you know i don't know it it really what's that there's hats and stuff that say like average dick energy yeah it's a real thing but like it should be like own what you got and just and do a good job with it you know don't i don't know i just i wish men could hear what i'm saying and like listen and take it in and well i think that's hard what we're saying right now i think is genuine right really it does not matter what size dick you have if you come with the right mindset the right skill sets the right cardio right if you if you bring everything else together you can have an excellent experience oh yeah but it is a false narrative to say that dick size doesn't correct it plays a role and i think people get in their head with when it's like oh does dick size matter oh no no it doesn't matter it doesn't matter at all but when really it's like yes it matters but all of these other things matter just as much and if sometimes if not more and so if you can bring other things to the table it it can be just as good as an experience and and you don't have the negatives of the big dicks where it hurts and it can tear and it can well and everybody's like good at certain things like for instance there are guys that we play with that eat pussy better than anybody i've included better than you i love you babe but better better than you I'm not mad about and their average or below average and they will rock your world These they know you don't know why I'm not gonna let eating pussy You don't let me I don't let you I don't want you I start eating your pussy for two seconds.
You're like give me that dick. I'm yeah, I'm like I don't want that Give me that dick. Well, but I blame you I get no practice. But here's the thing. Everybody has something they're good at. You know? Like, go in with yours. I'm not going to say I'm not good. I'm good at eating pussy. You are good. Ladies, I'm good at eating pussy. I'm just saying, Lacey does not let me practice. I don't. I don't want that. I want that dick, babe. What about big dick guys that just come in and try to, like, slam it? They just want to take you to pound town.
Yeah, I want to to talk about that and there's something else i want to talk about too i don't know maybe on your list um guys especially if it's i mean if it's your wife and that's your dynamic you do you like you know what happens in your bedroom is fine but if you're playing with somebody especially in the lifestyle and they're not your spouse or you've never slept with them before do not beat the shit out of their pussy you have to regardless of your dick size really you know yeah yeah true regardless of your dick size because an average dick can do it too i mean you have to like feel her that's the thing in the lifestyle though there are guys out there that get a girl naked and just want to pound the shit they just like bunny rabbit on is that what it's called like when you i guess yeah sure jack rabbit jack rabbit yeah yeah where you just like jack hammer yeah i mean and that's that's not fun especially if you got a big dick holy hell that's right that's painful and i'm i will be coming off of that dick immediately and what will happen is then i'll try to get on top or something so i can kind of control the situation and not get injured.
Right. So, yeah, that's totally. I agree with that. If you don't know somebody, don't go straight to pound town. Yeah. And to be honest with you, I think it's sweet and kind when guys, I can tell that they are being like a little bit gentle with me. There's guys that I've had to say, you can be rougher like DJ Life of Spies.
I've had to say to him, hey, you can be a little bit gentle with me there's guys that i've had to say you can be rougher like dj life of spies i've had to say to him hey you can be a little rougher with me because i know that he is probably because he has a big dick he's probably had to like temper it and like learn to fill out women and so i always like reassure him because he's such a sweet soul and say hey it's okay if you do this you know so i think guys women would rather you like take it a little easy especially at first let's not just like go in it's easy i've probably made that mistake before yeah because you get excited and you want to rock somebody's world and yeah you do it with me often you know just because you're used to me and sometimes i'm like hey i know you can take it that's what that is yeah you said you had a few things oh oh sorry um can we talk about like is this on your list about if you like the size of your dick in group messaging like chatting because i feel like some guys that have big dicks in group messaging like that's all they want to talk about is their big dick you know what i mean is that me no it's actually not you okay um which is funny because i feel like this whole podcast has been primarily about your dick size and that probably makes you super uncomfortable doesn't it yeah because dan is like pretty humble when it comes like i you notice, it's usually me talking about his dick side.
Because I, as his wife, want to, like, incur, like, I want to, like, brag on you and some of that. So, like, if we meet, like, a new couple and we start a chat, Dan never's like, hey, look at this big dick I got for you. He doesn't do any of that. He just kind of like chats. And then when we have sex with them, they just kind of figure it out. Now we have a podcast, so it's kind of hard. Everybody knows everything now. But before that, we just kind of figure it out. Where some guys will just lay it out there and they'll be like, oh yeah, I've got a big dick.
And then what happens is they show up and they've talked a big game and they show up and they just have a normal dick and i'm like dude if you would have just not said anything it would have just let me figure it out then i would have been happy with your normal dick but because you made it sound like you have this monster in your pants i'm like whoo you got excited for it yeah and then i get there and it's just average which there's nothing wrong with average but he oversold it right we've talked about this several times in this podcast guys undersell over deliver yeah because i'm telling you as a female it is pretty fucking amazing to like be into a guy and have no idea what he is what's going on in his pants and then it's time to play and you find it and it's exactly what you're looking for and it's about to rock your world and it's hard and you're like hell yeah and so it's like it's like a nice surprise right so undersell over deliver yeah and don't oversell under deliver you're very good at that so like as his wife i do try.
You're very good at that. So, like, as his wife, I do try to, like. Oversell me? No, I don't try to oversell you. But, like, if we're, like, chatting, I might send a dick pic for you. Or I might send, like, a picture of, like, me and you where you can see your dick to just kind of, like, get her a little excited.
But I think it comes off different when, like, your wife is sending it not the the creepy husband agree with the dick with a monster can agreed all right so some tips for intercourse and we're going to start with if you're well endowed okay so if you're well endowed uh the key to working with a bigger than average penis is it isn't all about your penis uh and make sure you do lots of foreplay yeah and then uh lots of lube yeah that's that's it i would say start slow that would be my advice as a female vagina owner um start slow if you have a big dick and you can kind of work up because even with a lot of foreplay and stuff sometimes i need a little soft strokes before the right yeah ease into it um it goes on to say like um maybe let your partner kind of control the penetration depth uh certain positions are better for that especially if like if you're The female's on top and she has lots of control but even if you feel like you're doing doggy style they're you know the doggy the one on the bottom can female can back it up onto you you don't have to be slamming it into them so basically if you know you have a bigger dick you take the time to make sure it's lubed up everything's lubed up real up real good.
Plenty of lube, plenty of foreplay. She's good, she's horny. And then just take your time getting in there and then let her kind of determine depth and roughness. And that can be hard with new partners.
To me, this is every time we go into a swap situation if i'm dealing with somebody i've never played before i kind of have to feel that whole situation out yeah because like you said you don't want to just you don't want to hurt you don't want to hurt somebody all right what about people that are less in doubt is there any any tips you'd have for them be confident okay what about any any positions or anything i like doggy style right um also like being on top being on top for yeah yeah um you don't have to be as soft and gentle but you also should still be respectful and make sure everybody's like okay i still think things need to be to be looped up.
I think all of that, a lot of that still applies just out of a respect level, more so than like I could hurt you level. But I think you still need to do this. No, that's all the things that we have here. Doggy style, definitely you can get a little deeper in. You could probably, you know, again, you need to fill out any female.
I just don't care what size your dick is is don't take somebody to pound town right away but if you do have a smaller dick you probably can take somebody a little more yeah to pound town but feed off of their energy and see where they're at uh and this says even uh try some other positions where um the female can close her legs so like we do like that uh i think it's called jockey jockey or i heard it called like reverse missionary i don't know we're basically what we're talking about is when the female lays on her stomach and you're doing her doggy style but her feet are closed and your penis is kind of in between so you're it's kind of you know it's tighter on on everything yeah maybe a little more a little more friction going on and that kind of thing it also says don't forget about uh oral don't forget about hands don't forget about toys all that stuff uh is important it comes to play really for any dick size but if you are particularly you know worried about your dick size bring in that kind of stuff to make sure there's more you know more pleasure can be good too all good things all good things and if you're or somewhere the middle if you fall into that golden average category you really have the best of both worlds you do right because you can be rough you can fuck uh you know you don't really have to uh you know make sure you're using all this extra stuff so that they get pleasured like you're gonna like you're you're you can do all the things um i mean things.
I mean, what, you, you would probably, if you had to, and I'm, I don't want to speak for you, but if you had to pick a cock size, what would you, would you rather big or average or small? Um, not giant. Right. A little above average. A little above average. Yeah. You probably like that, like seven inch dick is probably where you would fall into, right? Yeah. Okay. Seven and three quarters. Seven and three quarters? I don't know. A little above average. Yeah. You probably like that like seven inch dick is probably where you would fall into, right? Yeah. Okay. Seven and three quarters.
Seven and three quarters? That's the perfect size? No. I mean, I would think around seven is good. I mean, because I do like a little bit more, but it's not a requirement by any means. I do get a little giddy, though. When you see a big dick? Yeah. yeah well and i think that's just because of the lifestyle um because we do see a lot of dicks and so it just kind of is like an extra special surprise when you get that big one yeah but i'm we are very beneficial we actually have there we have several friends now that have bigger dicks than me. They do.
So it's not that we've never experienced that. It does happen. But you are right. More often than not, when we engage in the lifestyle, the male half has – Is average. Is average. Yeah. Which is what you would expect because that's what average is. It means most people are that same. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
It's kind of like, okay, so guys, the best way I can explain it is like all boobs are great right a double d is or a d is really good you know you're like hell yeah but then like this girl walks in with the triple d's and they're brand new and they're perky and they're just sitting there and you can't stop looking at them it's kind of that like you still really like those other ones but those big ones you're just like hey there i'll see you get enamored with a little. Yeah. But they're not necessary to have a good experience.
And honestly, if I had a big dick all the time in the lifestyle, I think it wouldn't, like, I would take it for granted. So you like it because it's kind of a, it doesn't happen that often. It's kind of a little treat. Yeah, correct. Right. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay, what about, we did talk a little bit about dick pics.
Do you you want to from the female person do girls even want dick pics i like dick pics but i can't speak for every girls because i've heard a lot of girls that said they don't like it i don't necessarily like a um one that you haven't asked i think it's so nice of a guy to be a gentleman and be like hey do you care if i send you a picture i think that's 100 how you should do it um but i very much love a dick pic or like you're saying when you can see the dick in like especially like couple to couple yeah like what you do like oh you're sucking my dick but like you can see the dick yeah yeah that's yeah we're fucking and like i'm kind of like most of the way out of you there's a dick pic but there's also a hot chick yeah but like on our discord i will um occasionally just go in the room you know and looking for dick pics no i'm not looking you know i just like oh that's nice that's nice you know because we don't get it to i we i mean we don't get a ton of dick pics in our personal dm yeah because we just we don't really chat with a You don't do a ton of dick pics.
In our personal DMs or something. Yeah, because we don't really chat with a lot of like. We don't do a lot of sexting. No. Maybe we need to do more of that. No, I don't have time. No. I mean, don't get me wrong. I do love flirting and getting to know people. But that's hard. That's hard.
We just have lives and a lot going on i don't you know i'm not against it i'm all for it most everybody that we chat with we know so if we don't send you a message for two weeks nobody's going to get their feelings hurt and then if we pop in with the dick pic nobody's going to care either you know so i think that's what i i appreciate it tends to come in cycles like as we're leading up to an event people will start flirting and stuff more and then yeah you know it kind of afterwards be like oh that was so fucking hot and oh my god and then it kind of will taper off and then yeah pick back up for the next event it's kind of our text but ladies i do like a good boot pick as well so i mean i'm an equal opportunity opportunity before me like when you were single like you would a guy send a dick pic and you'd like masturbate to it no no you just like it's a mental note right so it's not like you're not like oh my god that dick and then no no girls don't i'd never masturbated to a picture it's more like for research purposes like okay his dick's really hairy so that's no you masturbate to porn yeah is that you've always done that yeah what about like to chat like sexting would you masturbate doing no so you would like just get hot bother talking to a guy and then you'd go watch porn yeah and masturbate yeah okay interesting yeah you know so do guys masturbate to pitchers yeah like just oh yeah really oh for sure guys are are very visual well i get that but like i don't know i mean porn too like video you know like obviously that but yeah i've you know like i'm trying i probably jerked up to your pictures a hundred times really thousands of times and girls like for instance when i was single all my friends were married um and i would show my friends the dick pics they didn't have their faces so it's not like I wasn't exposing anybody, but they loved it because, you know, they didn't get it, and they'd be like, oh, my God, it's so big, or oh, my God, it's hard.
Who'd you show my dick to your friends? Oh, yeah, I'm sure I did. Like all of them? Just a couple. I just had, like, two best friends that I would. Like, I wouldn't send it out in a big room. I wouldn't text it to anybody. We would, like, out for lunch. Show them on your phone. Yeah, just kind of, like, love them. You're right. I'm talking to Dan. Look at that. Look at that. Yeah. Because they all are. I have realized, and I think we've talked about this before. We are off a tangent. Girls talk about everything. Yeah. Like, guys don't do that. Yeah. Like, guys?
Well, for me, when I was single, they were married, and they were like, okay, what the hell are you into now now? Like what? You know, they kind of live vicariously through me. You're their soap opera now. Yeah. So then I would like tell them about like, oh, I'm seeing this guy. This is his dick. So I remember one time I was dating this guy and he had sent me a dick pic and it had like cum dripping off the top, which I thought was like hot as fuck. That picture is very hot. Oh, really? I can still think about it.
that i showed it to them and they were like appalled by it they were like oh my god that's disgusting i'm like maybe something's wrong with me i don't know maybe it's me there was a meme or something going around maybe it's on twitter or it's like don't send girls dick pics send them videos of you coming but that's better yeah but your cum face is not good my cum face is not good well my face doesn't have to be in it i guess but oh like you're gonna record it okay yeah i like that i think it meant yeah like instead of a dick picture record your dick you having an orgasm i would rather have that yeah i thought you meant like no it was so i think i saw it on twitter or something and it was like don't send girls girls don't want dick pics they want videos of you of you coming and i was like and i'm like and then there's like lots of girls in the comment being like fuck yeah like why do guys not get this or what but that would be like the same as like a girl sending a picture of her like naked body versus a girl sending a video of her making yourself calm it's all i mean guys want all of that though the difference is from what i read is like girls don't want the dick pics but they want the video of you coming i want both well you're that doesn't mean send all your dick pics to me you're gonna get so many and if you email them to us you are the spring nation at gmail i'm going to apologize to her.
We don't check that. Someone else does. I apologize to our staff right now. Yes, that is a business email. Please, please don't email us. It's a big burly dude that checks it too. So just so you know. He might masturbate too. All right.
That was way, way too far off on a tangent are you okay i'm sorry all right get yourself together okay all right bottom line being in good in bed yeah has nothing to do with the size of your dick yeah i agree 100 right this is you're cooking a masterpiece you're cooking a meal you're a chef one ingredient is not gonna throw off the entire meal right so this is a good analogy what if it's the chicken you need the chicken you have the chicken it's there right it just doesn't matter if it's an 18-ounce chicken or a 4-ounce chicken. You can still make a good. Chicken casserole. Whatever. Alfredo.
You can still make a good Alfredo regardless of how many ounces of chicken are in the meal. We're going way off. But you understand what I'm saying. You get the point of the message. Do you not? Yeah, we got it. We got it. Okay. All right. Any final thoughts about the size of dicks? No. I think we've killed this topic. It's been a journey. It went from you sucking my dick and measuring it to talking about Alfredo.
I don't even know where we've gone here in the last hour but all i can think about is you taking a picture of your video of your face i've never done that i've never done when you said girls want videos of you coming that's what i thought why would you assume it was of my face i don't know you might have to cut all this out i'm leaving it it's it's precious yeah are you ready to do our outro can you gather yourself all right nothing else about cock sizes no you're ready love love your regardless of the size. Go in with confidence and rock her world. I think that sums it up nicely.
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