PhoebertAndWife Couples are not a monolithic. You say it’s too long, the next couple says it’s not enough. If you all agreed on a set rubric maybe this wouldn’t be an issue. What works for you, doesn’t work for the next, and this is exactl…
mayhem8 I don’t have a preconceived notion of how most couples looking for SMs deal with them. I literally take the words of couples that complain about them and investigate. I also read the extensive “do’s and don’ts” outlined for single…
AandJinNNJ You’re pulling hairs. I simply gave examples of what a single male could write. Those examples were not meant to be taken as literal copy and paste messages. When writing to a couple, a single male can simply use the ‘desire/int…
PhoebertAndWife No I am not intrigued by minimalistic profiles. If you can’t find the time to write about yourself and your desires, then why should entertain your interest. However I do enjoy concise profiles that are detailed and explici…
It’s not a problem, for me at all. I’ve been quite successful in my LS experience because I’ve learned how to properly navigate and go where I’m wanted. What I find interesting are couples that bash single men as if there aren’t any qualit…
Why do you think folks aren't reaching out to single guys when they're open/looking for them? Great question, with a myriad of answers, Couples/single females won't reach out under these circumstances: - if the couple/single females have s…
AandJinNNJ Competition when it comes to single men, is not the same. Especially when you factor in preferences. “20x more single males” another “dime a dozen” reference. But the reality is that like the husbands, most of the single guys ar…
AandJinNNJ “I ran across your profile and was intrigued by what I saw. From reading your profile, I believe that I fit the qualities and characteristics that you're looking for in a single guy.” So the above statement wouldn’t be a great o…
This is what I do in my cold approach to couples/single women online and this is also what I have outlined in profile for couples and single women contacting me. Please include: Greeting Name/names Your desire or intent It's simple and eas…
Men lie, because women misrepresent their experiences. Men want to be feel adequate and appreciated. Penis size is just one of the parameters that a has to measure up to. Most women have asked a guy about his penis size, and have told that…
Particularly, this isn't a site for NSA fun or FWB. What you are looking for seems to be found on a hook up or dating site. If this was a man asking for this, he would be easily rebuked by couples and told to look somewhere else. Ironicall…
Sexual inclusivity is the “lifestyle”. Having sexual encounters or experiences with ppl you may or may not be exclusive with. Swinging/swapping - is a form of lifestyle activity with the focus being that it is primarily oriented for couple…
To be honest this is the result of putting single women on a pedestal in the lifestyle. Instead of seeing all participant categories (couples, females, males) as equal, the hierarchy created has allowed single women the upper hand. In resp…
LoveMeKnot It’s marketing because the majority of husbands are not looking for their wives, they’re looking for themselves. When a single guy posts pics of the ladies he’s been with, he’s advertising to the husband, the type of women he at…
PhoebertandWife DBCoooperMN I stated that because of my personal experience which is I prefaced that with that statement. Maybe not all “Gumbie” profiles are bad, however it does appear to show a lack of commitment. I don’t see why a simpl…
Also from personal experience, don’t deal with “Gumbie” profiles. It saves you the hassle if they actually post a few pics in their profile gallery, to give you a sense of who they are Discretion is not that serious. Everybody has kids and…
Travel. Use platforms that favor you. Go to SplashMocha (seriously)!! You’re from Illinois? try out 2Tall’s party. Contact me if you like and I’ll connect you with ppl who have an interest in you, from your area. There’s a party in May!!!…
OE - “I always have to wonder why in the hell unattached young men bother with the LS.” I started this at 22, while In the military. Why? Because my sexual preferences aligned better with older women in their sexual prime rather than with…
OE - “I always have to wonder why in the hell unattached young men bother with the LS.” I started this at 22, while In the military. Why? Because my sexual preferences aligned better with older women in their sexual prime rather than with…
No wonder your profiles are “single male traps”. Without any pics of the husband it comes as if the wife is the main driver of the profile and that the husband is just a formality. Single males are more inclined to message profiles that ar…
Goodgolly Single males block couples and single females to narrow down the lookers from the possible players. If you (female/couple) view my profile but I can't in return, you're telling me that you have 'no real interest'. We know that th…
Travelers I understand why you do it. Trust me. But the context is being misconstrued. The OP mentions "viewing" and nothing of messaging. But this thread is not following that route. Can any couple answer this question: What is the proble…
RonKathy Why didn’t you just delete the message? If the guy messaging you wasn’t what you desired, why make it a public talking point? Deleting the message, without responding would have had a better effect. Or simply responding with a No.…
traverlers122227 Asking the site to do its job in trying to keep its customers, should be a given. Because as a customer you are trying to help the site better the consumer experience. So far, SLS is failing. To even hear that SMs received…
I have a different stance on this. And the reason why is because no one has an issue of SMs looking at their profile. The common complaint as RonKathy is “receiving unwanted messages”. From an objective standpoint, the site (SLS) lacking t…
SLS _wayne How about this, tell the web developers that the paying customers are not happy with the site. I doubt life-stylers are going to remember to change a pic from portrait to landscape just to post it to SLS after a night of fun. Th…
Then is it safe to say that sexual chemistry is what drives the friendships in the LS? Great friends and bad sex don't seem to mix. We all have friends that we haven't slept with or choose not to, so have friends that you don't have sexual…
So most of you are saying that you would give them the benefit of the doubt. If the first time was bad due anxiety, misunderstandings or performance, you would communicate that and try for second chance. Fair enough. Others however will ch…
Swinging is diverse. It has its many nuances, participants of different back grounds, fetishes and more. How we go about meeting and playing is based on our own comfortability and desires. Saying that brings me to this question and primari…
DBCooperMN The crowd I was referring to wasn’t in regard to swingers in general, it was in reference to the age of the swingers that use this particular site. For example the average of users concerning this particular topic/discussion
DBCooperMN To put it bluntly, I don’t try to convince anyone. I just simply state and identify the many variables I come across. Just like you, many others in this forum have been playing the game for a long time. And believe me I surely u…
GGGM, Interesting. I say this: go positive of the 50/50, with parameters. Give him 3 days to impress you. Topics within those 3 days cannot involve sex. And see how he maneuvers
Mayhem8, Sounds like you’re saying that “hey how are you?”, would be better suited for IM than Email, is that correct? But would be that be considered an opening message? And if anything would be IM be the preferred method for initial cont…
Mayhem8, That's the point. They're talking point hooks. I'd be WAY more apt to respond to you if you simply asked me "What kind of bike do you ride?", "What card games do you play?", "Do you do ten pin or candlepin", "What course/s do you…
DBCooperMN, There’s nothing wrong with a tuxedo pic. Just because I don’t have one posted doesn’t mean I’m opposed to it. Who you try attract is more than likely different than who has interest in me.
HollyBlue, I’m glad you enjoyed your laugh. But I wasn’t speaking on the perception of a few men. There are men of that caliber just like there are females and couples. Individuals who have quite a rapport among the LS faithful. Just like…
Mayhem8 From your profile…. Low attraction to single males. (Interest meter) In the body of your profile: SINGLE (Guys and Girls): We only meet with singles we don't know at LS parties, unless you have a partner to bring along. You are wel…
Allen, I don’t have to attack your character. With your name calling and abruptness, I don’t have to decipher much. Neither do I return to this site to troll. SLS with its outdated system, is just another site that is somewhat popular in m…
I don't understand why most single guys even try the lifestyle. The odds are not in their favor - too many are looking for the much scarcer group that are looking for them - and they'd be way better off on a hookup app than a swinging site…
What’s to argue 888eatme888? As New and Naughty stated, if the female presence allows you an advantage point, then being a couple, female or female couple is advantageous. If you’re saying to single males that bringing a female will better…
Mayhem8 BTW - Most SMs would be absolutely thrilled if they got a message from a couple saying, "Hey, I'd love to see you stick that thing in my wife/gf". Rabbit n Scamp We are a couple who openly seek single males but make it very clear i…
HolllyBlue, Reverse order…. A couple’s preference is the prerogative. No qualms about that. Why was IR mentioned? The average single guy is white, and so is the average couple. Also the average couple plays within their own. That’s a homog…
Goodgolly, You’re a bisexual female. You don’t have to lift a finger. A poorly written profile will yield you a number of responses. That’s obvious. Which furthers the point that women are the prize. Even in your listing of groups, women w…
Goodgolly, If the answer is to get laid, then everyone should be giving effort. Going above and beyond in that matter is like a man showing up to a meet and greet in suit and tie, while the couple is in beach attire. It doesn’t mix. And if…
Messaging on line…. As overeducatedpeople stated, messaging really doesn’t matter. Why? Too much ambiguity. What confuses single males the most about couples, is the backwards writing about accepting single males into their play. Now you’r…
JC Everyone complains about a sausage party, but I have do hear someone complain about a taco party. As goodgolly stated previously, MFM would be the most viable and most opportunistic but it isn’t. FMF is the more sought after. And I hone…
And just to clarify because goodgolly brought up a good point. Poorly written profiles are the worse for single males. And that’s mostly what we run into. I view it as, if you as a couple don’t give yourself effort in writing a decent prof…
Mayhem8 What I’ve mentioned up to this point are present in many of the forums on this site. Countless forums have addressed why single men should operate or maneuver, and the end result is always to attract the wife. There are countless m…
JC How am I what’s wrong with single men? I simply spoke on the reality of swinging today. You named called me and wagged your proverbial finger at me for telling the uncomfortable truth. Overeducatedcouple even backed up the points I was…
Hey how are you? Is a feeler statement. It’s simply used gauge whether or not a couple will respond back. Nothing more nothing less. Single men use this to see if a couple will give them the time of day. It is a positive response, make sin…
Mayhem8 That message was simply to illustrate the points I try to hit when sending my messages. Greeting Proposal What I’ve noticed in your profile/what intrigues me Info about myself Invitation Access to gallery Those are the points I try…
I more or less tend to go this route when reaching out…. Good day. I am _____ and I was wondering if you would like to connect over drinks sometime. I’ve read over your profile and I’m very intrigued about what I see. A little about myself…
Asshole? How? I said look at the “average”. There’s nothing asshole about that statement. You saying that “we” try our best, is an anecdotal statement. The word average is a generalization. Meaning the taking of “many anecdotes” and findin…
Goodgolly, The point i was trying to make and that was stated is that if your profile is garnering a response you don’t like, you should adjust. My argument to you was that would you give the same advice to a woman or even couple, as you g…
Women are the prize. It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. The countless threads on this sight reveal that. Women outpace men when it comes to sexual partners. Women are more inclined to look better and stay in shape, which increases the likel…
I’m a single male. Lol Yes I know who writes the majority of these profiles, but to walk the line that their women/wives have no say or interjection about what is written or displayed on the profile, is highly egregious. If women are the “…
Goodgolly, You didn’t answer the question. You only have reasoning to particular acts and excuses, The question is simply: Do those statements, which you stated, also apply to the women and wives that partake in the actions of dressing pro…
So goodgollymsmolly…. Do these particular statements….. “However, you will get fewer objectifying, gross messages if you put some clothes on and hide your dick. If you market yourself in particular ways do not be surprised when people pick…
If a single guy spoke to a couple in their opening message, as a couple would speak to a guy, you’ll be saying he’s vulgar, rude and insensitive. These are the type of messages I get from couples from SLS and another site. 1. OMG - (signed…
RonKathy, I don’t think the initial post was referring to anything about swinging, 3 sums or group. It came off to me as a very general question. Vanilla almost. Any man uncomfortable with being watched or having to perform in a group sett…
The exchange is comparable. Older women and younger men don’t have much to offer each other outside of sex, so sex becomes the attraction point and catalyst. Many older women are not looking to have children, remarry or get involved in ser…