Why so few s/s couples..
Is the question??????
There are plenty, but they don,t swing, so you won,t see them here...think???
You see so many bi women couples here because thats where they will find partners...think??
I'm a straight SBM that runs into that issue all the time when the wife is straight and the husband is bi curious and suddenly changes the narrative to be able to play. I'm not desperate and this is supposed to be a mutually pleasant experience for everyone.
NCBeach - "Wife is prob gonna play with boobs cause she knows I like it...."
While I also like it, the Mrs plays with boobs because SHE likes it, sometimes. While it does increase our odds of finding couples to play with, it's not why we list her as bi-curious. A truely straight woman may be upset to have another woman ask to touch her at all, so we err on the safer side of declaring her preference.
I agree that there also needs to be some sort of other setting, like perhaps bi-situational. There is this thought that someone listing as any flavor of bi will play with any other bi person, and that's just wrong. I'm straight, but it doesn't mean that I will be compatible with nor want to play with every straight woman out there. Somehow this get's lost when women list themselves as any flavor of bi and it's just assumed (incorrectly) that she will want to play with every bi woman out there..
I was thinking same thing. Im straight. Like arrow straight. Wife is too but not getting any response from anybody. Wife is prob gonna play with boobs cause she knows I like it but not down on any lady. Thats my job. She cjanged to bi but needs to beva partial bi settibg ??
We,re VERY straight....and still have fun w other couples...... you just have to be honest w folks you meet or contact.
Mostly just a way for the a guy with a fat gut to get laid.
"From what we understand, and from what we have been told from some people. The women play with each other, and the men watch, after a while the men join in and play with the women. "
Yeah I have seen this stated in several profiles before. My wife is Bi, but Bi play isn't a requirement for us. To be honest, I don't think we have ever started a MFMF this way described above in the quote. I'm pretty sure that we have always swapped partners (unless we started with our own partners as somebody mentioned below), gone to town, then at some point the girls had their fun (if any at all) during the playtime
Hedo, I have seen almost that exact text in some profiles. I can see it being a preference perhaps, but didn't really think that many couples needed things to happen that way because they don't know how to get started any other way.
Women do seem to be more attuned to signals in general, and women generally have less to worry about when it comes to touching guys. It's rare to hear a guy complain that a woman grabbed his package, but have seen cases where women thought guys were getting too handsy.
When we get started, we usually just ask if people want to play. If they do, we ask if they like same or separate room play and will go to a bedroom or bedrooms accordingly. A little kissing/petting, clothes come off and things get stared much the same way we start with each other.
As a guy, I am reluctant to make much (if any) contact with someone new until I know a woman is comfortable with me, but by that time, she has probably sent off at last 3 signals that my wife has already picked up on. If the Mrs was into playing with women, things may start faster, but it's just not her thing.
Another possible way to start is that couples warm up their own partner then switch. We have done that on rare occasions, but it is a viable alternative to getting things pre-heated before the main event
Seems weird to need to have it all scripted out in order to get the party started.
From what we understand, and from what we have been told from some people. The women play with each other, and the men watch, after a while the men join in and play with the women.
I do see a fair number of profiles where that is how they get things going. Good point E&B in that you have to wonder how they get things started when it's just them, and why they think it wouldn't be the same with other couples.
"asking us to explain how we get things going without Bi play."
Yeah stupid question ... Amazes me how some ppl are clueless. How do they get things going between themselves ... I'm sure they lay down on the bed, start kissing, and things progress to sexual relations .... same thing here stupid!! lol ... switch partners, lay on bed, get things moving.
"...if you can't figure out by this time how to get things going maybe you should just take up knitting."
step 1: put down the knitting
step 2: Phoebert starts kissing the other woman; I start kissing the other man
step 3: find somewhere comfortable to continue with the person we're kissing
step 4: eventually come back to earth, clean up & get dressed
step 5: pick up knitting after saying goodbye
Haha Onehorneywife. Exactly... ;)
@Good, Good answer!
Well whether your straight, bi curious or bi if you can't figure out by this time how to get things going maybe you should just take up knitting.
(Repost from a post We posted a few years ago) It has been so nice to get replies from people agreeing with us. It helps because we actually have received more positive replies in the last month then messages wanting to meet us. One party which we went to, we met a couple which we seemed to hit it off with, Di was talking with the guy, he said but how to you get things going, if you don't play with my wife. Di told this man who she actually found attractive, ok, you go suck Tony's dick and I'll eat your wife's pussy. Well, that ended the conversation.
We had a couple who we met a few years ago, we all seemed to get along really well, till the Bi question came up, (how you guys get things started if Di isn't Bi) We attempted to explain to them that it was easy. We didn't play of course. Well, for the next few years, every now and then We would get a message from them saying, (we wish Di was Bi.) We would just say something like Hi guys, how have you been, etc. Well, recently we receive a message from then, asking us to explain how we get things going without Bi play. We explained the best we could. We felt like we we're talking to a couple of young kids, Their response was, ( I see.) We haven't heard from then since.
Well said Cal!
Straight couple here. We get pressure and "well that sucks" responses sometimes (not all the time of course) from couples where bi-female play is nearly mandatory in their play. Which is fine for us. To each their own. BUT, even when we're upfront about our straight status, quite often when it comes to play it's as if the couple/female half still comes in for the bi-play kill on the wife as if that unsolicited physical fondle can somehow turn her, let alone is proper,respectful, etiquette acceptable. Had a food for thought moment with the wife just now on this topic. Flip the script for a moment. What if the number of couples profiles on LS sites who enjoy and at times demand bi-female play (which seems to be the majority) were instead switched with profiles that were as upfront and demanding about bi-male play? Wondering how the balance of bi-female, unicorn hunting profile holders would feel about that. Not to mention if in a number of cases, a bi-male came on to the husband trying to "turn him", instead of the other way around? Think it'd be pure reverse-NIMBY chaos.
Obviously I am confused, because I just re-read the "If you like watching two members of the opposite gender have sex, guess what? You are not entirely straight! "
I'm a guy and the opposite gender are women, so if I enjoy seeing 2 women have sex does that make me "not straight"? Hell, if that were the case, 99% of all guys are "not straight". ;-)
turlock - I'm confused. You said, "90% of women who claim to be bi will not eat pussy." and "They think a woman being attracted to another woman is a reason to claim themselves as bi".
Then you said, "If you like watching two members of the opposite gender have sex, guess what? You are not entirely straight! "
In one case it sounds like you're saying a woman needs to eat pussy to be truely bi, but if she enjoys seeing other women have sex together she's not straight. It's no surprise people get confused on how to set their preference toggles.
In our case, the Mrs likes breasts. I could list her as straight, but technically she's not truely straight. I suspect there are more like her than not when it comes to this quasi-bi thing, which is why so few straight-straight couples.
I've mentioned this before, but the limits of "bi-ness" can't be done in the toggles, but can and likely should be in the profile.
Could also be selection bias at play. Perhaps bi/bi-curious/bi-situational folks are more willing to explore non-monogamy than straight folks. Or perhaps not. As a straight single guy, I'm totally clueless about that.
Honestly, as long as folks are open about what their desires are, and ask permission at the appropriate times, I'm cool. The answer might be no, but at least there's respect on both sides that way.
Been in the lifestyle over 30 years, my wife & I are both straight. We have come to learn The term (Bi) does not always mean Bi sexual. Many couples have found that if they add that term to their profile it tends to cast a larger net, because other straight couple also employ that term. 90% of women who claim to be bi will not eat pussy. I have seen bi women even claim it to be gross! They think a woman being attracted to another woman is a reason to claim themselves as bi. As a straight man, I can honestly say I can easily see many attractive males. However that does not mean I want to have sex with them. Women mostly claim bi because they know that most men enjoy seeing two women touch each other. But more often than not, these women are doing it not because they enjoy it, but because they know this type of play turns their man on. They are merely show boating for the men.
Most straight men are indeed stereo type. As it's OK with them if they see two women fool around, but not two men. This makes no sense because the term straight means you only enjoy having or watching straight sex. If you like watching two members of the opposite gender have sex, guess what? You are not entirely straight! lol Armed with this knowledge, when we run across a profile that uses the BI term, we simply say BYE!
@Lukeandkira :thumbs-up
