Anyone else bothered by .?

"Also, “meat shaped vegatables”? Where can I find those? Never heard of them or saw them before."

Veggie burgers, strips, bacon, wieners, sausages, meatballs.
The type you mentioned being into for numerous reasons (all of which most don't really care about).

"I really would like to understand what you’re saying but ...we’ll you aren’t making any sense"

You put your nose in the air and play the "you don't make sense" game....
Argue, debate, repeat "You don't make sense, therefore I'm right"

"Oh, and I’m a chick not a dude."

A pretentious ass by any other name, is still a pretentious ass.

What's not to understand? You know more than anyone in the forum.

You have already made your mind up that I because I eat meat, I couldn't possibly be related to or know anyone as knowledgeable on the topic as you.

You're pretentiousness and assumptions after one question -- why do vegans like meat shaped vegetables, soy and tofu.

Then, you lost your shit. You're right, I learned nothing in culinary school.

You're right, but you beat the horse.... Still....

I’m sorry to assume so much— Are you saying you do follow a plant based diet?

Also, “meat shaped vegatables”? Where can I find those? Never heard of them or saw them before.

I really would like to understand what you’re saying but ...we’ll you aren’t making any sense

Oh, and I’m a chick not a dude.

~rabbit~

" I also have to assume that if you have veg friends you haven’t had any open dialogue with them where you actually accepted and considered their side."

One of the richest posts in SLS forum history!

You really strike me as someone who listens and sees the side of others.

If only doctors swallowed the medicines they dole out.

You assume so much....

All from my one post about meat shaped vegetables.

I don't see many ppl who don't eat vegetables, eating meat shaped like veggies.

Continue assuming what others know from one question. You and I both know you're the smartest dude in the room at all times.

8inch- why do you think veg*s would want to stay away from meat alternatives, even if they tasted/looked like meat?

I’m interested in why you would think that.

I have to assume from your responses you don’t follow a plant based diet and I also have to assume that if you have veg friends you haven’t had any open dialogue with them where you actually accepted and considered their side.

If you want my absolute honest and blunt answer as to why I not only eat things that taste and look like animal flesh but also have a small business where I make gourmet, vegan versions of “meat” and sausages and cheeses it’s because...and brace yourself....I don’t need to kill another sentient creature to live, thrive and enjoy my food.

It’s NOT because I hate the taste of meat. I was raised on 3 servings a day and ate my steak rare.

I stopped eating meat when I was 16 because I realized the truth about what was on my plate and went vegan later on when I realized the dairy and egg industries were the worst and cruelest part of the meat industry.

Hope that answered your questions. Remember, YOU asked.

Once again people, eat what you want and so will I.

~rabbit~

No, but you're being a dick, Rabbit.

You come here, like the expert in vegan and vegetarians, and tell me what I don't know about the subject.

Because I ask why vegans buy soy, tofu and vegetables in meat shapes?

Your statement on what I know was an arrogant one.

Vegas done right for adults is not a bad diet, if don't right. Vegan for kids is really bad as the kids need the high calorie intake from meat for proper growth and brain development.

Can't block my little buddy. Much more fun to mock him.

8inch are you high? Can I get some?

I had no idea Nutcal
Started this. We blocked him long ago.

Not at all surprised though. It’s exactly the type of ignorant shit stirring he likes.

~rabbit~

"You understand very little about the vegan diet and the reasonings behind it and it shows"

Well, your invisible sky daddy gave you animals and forbade the "unclean" list.
Couldn't have pork bellies on Wall St. without the New Testament Bible 2.0 But, cherry pick your bible and spin it.... either way, you're right and god merely suggests.

You do not know what I know, how many vegetarians and vegans I personally know, or what culinary school I went to.

So, I'm not going back and forth with a know it all. You know my whole life in a few posts, smart guy,

Your defense argumentative stance that your diet is better than all in this forum, well shows your personality type.

Enjoy your gluten free life!

Government destroys so many small businesses by changing the rules.

The most embarrassing thing about this whole labeling/food/vegan conversation is that it started with Ncal's drivel and it's still going on. How did that happen? We better check ourselves before we wreck ourselves.

Eat what you want. I'll eat what I want. Leave religion out of it.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Golly gee Good, you know how I love a scientific approach.

~rabbit~

"Like I always say, eat what what you want. Just understand what you’ re eating."

Exactly.

But, I'm not so sure I fully understand pussy. I'm going to have to study more of it. Up close.

Oh and yes Good, I did have a couple of typos at the end.

It was supposed to be “unhealthy for the planet and REALLY unhealthy for the animals”

It did read funny though didn’t it? I didn’t catch it until after someone had replied and I don’t delete/fix posts after a reply.

Yes, a vegan diet is very detrimental to the plants, the poor things don’t stand a chance!, but considering the fact that I’m actually eating less plants than I would if I also ate meat (~12 pounds of plants to make 1 pound of beef) I’m good with it.

~rabbit~

8 inch- why are you bringing religion into this? If you are going to try to use religion though, you didn’t specify which one, I’ll assume you are going with Christianity.

“God” gave us dominion over the animals just like I have dominion over my children and the republicans have dominion over the senate at the moment.

Eating something that mimics meat is nothing like eating the actual product. You understand very little about the vegan diet and the reasonings behind it and it shows so maybe just let it go and enjoy your bacon.

Now, I’m wondering why this has turned into a fight about veganism and why any of you care.

A balanced diet is key in anything. My best friend is a vegan that hates veggies and beans. She lives on processed crap and her health suffers from it.

Just like many people that eat a diet heavy in meat, and dairy.

The fact is you won’t find many people that have been on a balanced plant based diet for a long period of time suffering from heart disease, diabetes, high cholesterol, obesity, etc...

However this topic was supposed to be about proper labeling.

The Just company NEVER misrepresented itself. It never claimed to contain egg. It’s original packaging had a picture of an egg with a plant growing out of it. The ingredients never changed though.

If people believe every picture on a product is true then why the he’ll isn’t a smiling tiger joining me for breakfast and can I sue the company?

I see not one of you actually bothered to address the actual issues I pointed out with other products as misrepresenting themselves. Either it’s a problem across the board OR you are picking at specific products.

Oh and VA, there are already “veggie burgers” on the market that contain meat or dairy. I don’t get my panties in a bunch over it because I read labels. In fact I even have an ap on my phone to scan items for when I forget my reading glasses.

Feel free to put duck fat in a jar and call it mayo. It probably already exists. Once again, it won’t be a problem for me.

As long as you don’t misrepresent it as “vegan” like the Coffee Mate company does with its “dairy free” creamer.

Now, if you want to have a vegan discussion I’m happy to but not in this thread. I never meant it to turn that route but it’s the track most people take with me— instead of keeping to the issue at hand.

Like I always say, eat what what you want. Just understand what you’ re eating.

And read labels.

~rabbit~

@Rabbit

Good luck in your fight against the system. I suggest you vote for people who believe in your cause.

I do not share your passion in wanting to fight city hall here in what have been decades of standard definitions.

And just for fun . . .

Just mayo did elude in their label that they had eggs in it. Thats what they had to change.

And that makes me think of a FF...

One of my first college classes was Environmental Biology.

In the course the professor said (somewhat tongue in cheek) that vegans were no better, and in fact, somewhat worse than carnivores...

After all, when we eat plants, they are still alive, photosynthesizing and all...

Why do vegans create foods and restaurants with vegetables and tofu shaped like meat?

Wouldn't you stay away from anything remotely similar looking?

Eat what you like. Nobody is gonna live forever and life without pizza is meaningless.

"I never said you, or anyone else can’t ingest animal products, I Just know it’s unhealthy for people and the plant and really REALLY for healthy for the animals."

It is possible to have an animal free diet and be at higher risk of many diseases than one whose diet contains animal based products.

From a news story published by CBS in July 2017: ""Plant-based foods are not all the same," said lead researcher Ambika Satija, a postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health, in Boston."

"...diets heavy in pasta, bread, potatoes and sweets appeared just as bad as, if not worse than, diets high in animal products."

One word- moderation.

I believe you have a couple of minor typos, but there's a side of me that wants to say it's probably as unhealthy to a plant for it to be consumed as it is to an animal for it to be consumed.

But none of that bothers me.

Marshmallows in beer is another thing. I suspect the person who came up with that did so after not so moderately consuming their medical marijuana.

Dood, use your prescription only as directed because that marshmallow in beer shit just ain't right. Even in moderation.

Rabbit, do you believe in god?
Did he/she say go vegan, or eat/enjoy the animals AND plants?

Government is for sale and destroys so many small businesses by changing the rules when paid $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Its how politicians get rich.