Join host AC Maxwell on the Swinging Single podcast as he delves into the intriguing world of ethical non-monogamy. In today's episode, AC shines a spotlight on the complex yet captivating dynamics of the stag and vixen relationships, offering insightful perspectives and valuable advice for both newcomers and seasoned practitioners.Additionally, AC presents a segment where he tackles real-life questions from the Reddit community, engaging in an open and honest discussion about pertinent topics. From navigating the delicate issue of honesty about condom usage to sharing personal anecdotes about being a single male in the lifestyle, AC fearlessly addresses the nuances and challenges of ethical non-monogamy with authenticity and candor.Tune in to Swinging Single with AC Maxwell for an enlightening and entertaining exploration of the diverse facets of ethical non-monogamy and the dynamic world of swinging and open relationships.swingingsinglepodcast.comswingingsinglepodcast@gmail.com
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Welcome to the Swingin' Single Podcast. I'm your host, A.C. Maxwell, coming to you live from the Upside Down Pineapple Studios here in the deep heart of Texas. Today, we are going to talk about little ethical non-monogamy, little hot-wifing, stag-vixen, whatever you want to call it. You know, the couples that like to swing with single men and gentlemen that love to watch their woman with another man. That's what we're going to be talking about today. Also, we got some Reddit advice. We got some liars. We got some cheaters. We got all kinds of stuff. Guy lies about wearing a condom.
Is it me or the single man, men representation in the lifestyle? All that today on the Swinging Single Podcast podcast the swinging single podcast with host ac maxwell is intended for entertainment and educational purposes only the opinions views and content expressed or shared on the podcast are solely those of the host ac maxwell and any featured guests or contributors and do not necessarily represent those of the podcast's affiliates, sponsors, advertisers, or partners.
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all right let's get started thank you screen scenes queen we love it we love your music and all your little dirty mouth that you have your little whore all right let's get into it this is a swing and single podcast with your host ac maxwell before we start make sure you go to swing and single podcast.com check out all things ac also got any questions concerns or anything like that go uh you want to put your two cents in go to swinging single podcast at gmail.com email me we can talk then you want to come on the show hey i'll interview you whatever you want so like i said in my quest forever the swinging lifestyle we're going to talk about ethical non-monogamy stag vixens all kinds of stuff the hot wife all that stuff.
So we're going to talk about that today. Then we're going to have the liberal Reddit advice that I give that I love doing because, I don't know, I think people in Reddit are not that educated yet. And it's only my duty as a 28-year veteran of the swinging lifestyle to educate those who are less fortunate, don't have quite the experience and knowledge as I do. So sit back, relax, gentlemen. Remember to shave your cock and balls. Grab your lady. Have her sit on your face. Have a little sexual excitement as I breathe to you. I bring you excitement.
Talking about dirty, dirty sex in the swinging lifestyle.
So, you know, when we're talking about the swinging lifestyle and all that we gotta look at ethical non-monogamy now it's getting bigger and bigger because you know social media is out there lovely the internet out there you got the movies playing it up and all that stuff so you know you got all this stuff so as swinging communities engage in more open discussions about the non-traditional relationship dynamics and begin to challenge long-standing taboos surrounding kinks and fetishes certain non-monogamous lifestyles and preferences have gained significant popularity all right what do you think those are hot wifing stag vixen cock holding uh let's see what else is out there a little bdsm brat brats dom submissives stuff like that all those things are coming forward.
You go to FetLife, you can see them all. If you're really into the BDSM, I would recommend going to FetLife. You can find your community there. If you want to do this hot wifing stag vixen, I would go to, you know, just your regular swingerslifestyle.com, sdc.com, cassidy.com. Go all those places. You can find a lot of studs, bulls, whatever you want to fucking call these guys to bang your wife in front of you and show your wife that you love her so much.
The concept of the stag vixen lifestyle encompasses a particular form of non-monogamy that interwinds elements of hot wifing, but distinguishes itself from cock holding, particularly in its psychological aspects.
Yeah, cock holding is where you're going to, you know, the guy's going know the guy's gonna be degraded the bull's gonna and the wife might degrade the man the husband or whatever you know i never got into that i don't know why you know to each its own what floats your boat baby whatever rocks that ocean you know makes that ship rock it's whatever it is if you're into cock holding great but i just never got into it i never found it appealing at all it's just like a lot of guys want certain type of men to fuck their wives i don't really care i want a guy who's going to take my girl to pound town and have her make her feel like she's the greatest thing uh since you know cleopatra or whatever so i'm not really you know i never just got into the cock holding but you know the stag vixen the hot wifing i would love to do so let's talk about the stag vixen lifestyle the term stag and vixen describe a captivating sexually content uh couple where the vixen may have other partners it's typically males but sometimes females yeah we got to start you know it started out with just males but now hey listen everything evolves swinging You know, when I first started, you know me, soft and full swap was the only labels.
Now we got 101 labels now. So, you know, the stag vixen when it started was for women who wanted to have sex with other men. Then, you know, as time evolves, you're going to have to change it.
It's where the man stays faithful to the woman and the woman has sex with men and women so you know it is changing now is it now we're gonna see if it's for the better because you know what the stag vixen really keeps single men in the business you know swinging what happens when that starts coming and they start you know pushing out the single guys so you know it could be some downtime for single guys but i don't think like i said i don't think single men are going anywhere i just think it might have less less of a uh opportunity for to swing the vixen receives pleasures from showcasing their beauty and sexual allure while the stag takes pleasure in the attention she garners and i love when other men you know even in the vanilla relationship i guarantee the guy when he has a beautiful wife or I don't really realize that you know women do cheat now listen you know Guys, don't be sitting there looking at your wife and go, oh, she ain't never cheating on me.
Trust me, she's cheating on you. It's like those couples where the lesbian couples where the guy and the girl, the wife, they only have sex with other women. I call them a lesbian couple because I always laugh because I go, I want to see the guy's cock because, you know, this cock has to be amazing for her not to desire other men. You know, you know what I'm saying? Like this dude must have the magic cock because she only wants to fuck other women. She's good with the cock that she's got at home, which I don't buy. I think it's just all bullshit.
I think it's just a guy pressured her to fuck other women where, you know, she really wants to fuck others, men and women. So the stag finds arousal in acknowledging the vixen's attractiveness and becomes further excited at the prospect of her engaging in sexual encounters with other men, known as her bulls, for both her enjoyment and his. Yes, I get off on watching my partner with other men. I like it. I like the, the, you know, the action that's going on.
I like the fact that I control, you know, when you really think I'm in control of it a lot of the times, because I'm the one telling you got to do this, you got to do that, you know, and I like to reclaim it after he's done. I like to get in there and, you know, reclaim her pussy for myself. Cause that's who the main man is me. I'm the guy. And I'll see you later. You know, we don't even need to exchange names or anything like that. Just get out. So the vixen's primary relationship is with her stag, so the husband. Or the boyfriend.
Now, listen, we got to, like I said earlier, we got to change, all right? Swinging, I remember when couples would not swing with couples that were not married. A married couple would never marry, fuck another non-married couple. It was just unbelievable. And also, when you were a bi-male, if clubs found out you were a bi-male, they kicked you, banned you from that club. Now, you know, people are a little more open-minded and all that stuff and understand that shit happens and not everyone's going to get married.
So now you got regular couples that are non-traditional, I guess you would say, where they do not get married.
So when we say the vixen is primarily their their stag the stag is the hubby or the boyfriend while her interactions with bulls are often limited to casual or ongoing sexual encounters with no string of stats now this is where you got to start if you're going to start in this relationship gentlemen and ladies you're going to have to communicate how do you want what do you want from the bull all right do you want him to be a one-night stand you know you go to a club fuck him go that's me that's how that's one of my rules as a stag that we go to the club.
We find a guy, a guy or two, a guy or three or four or five, however she wants. She fucks him. That's it. We don't have open conversations. We don't want to know his life story. All we want to use him is for his cock, the pleaser and all that stuff. That's all we want. Now, for you as a couple, you might go, well, you know what? I want to make a connection with them. I want this and want that. That's where you, the hubby, boyfriend, the wife, the girlfriend have to get together and say, this is what we want from our bull. And you got to find bulls that will accommodate that.
Now, there are some bulls out there that are shit bulls, bullshitters, where they can orders one thing what separates a lot of the bulls from other other bulls is that the best bulls know how to um follow directions follow orders know that they are there for the pleasure of the couple and not vice versa the bull is not there for his pleasure the bull The bull's there for the wife's and the husband's pleasure. Now, the husband's not doing it.
The boyfriend's not doing anything with the bull, but still, me as the husband, the stag, loves the boyfriend, loves what's going on, and I get enjoyment out of it. All right. The stag may later receive detailed accounts of the vixen encounters with their bulls. Now, this is another thing you have to do. Are you going to do it together? I only, if it's a long-distance relationship, you might go where, okay, you might live in two different cities. You know, Houston, San Antonio, Houston, Austin, whatever.
You might say, okay, when I'm not in town, you can play, but I want to know who you're fucking, how it i want to do i want the details but also you say well i'm we're both living in austin texas and we only do it when we're together like there's no behind the back you don't go do one-on-ones you don't do dates there are couples that do one-on-ones and do dates and all that uh so you got to talk about that so when you're with your girl you're with your wife you're with your girlfriend you got to decide what are you going to do are you going to just be together and do it or are you going to allow her to go off and have sex with enemy me other reason why i would not want that safety you as a stag you are there to protect your vixen the safety of your ven is the most important thing.
And just because they're swingers doesn't mean they're nice people. You've got to be very careful in the swingers' lifestyle because just like a vanilla, you're going to meet shitty people. And there's probably going to be some shitty-ass bulls out there and all that stuff. So, you know, you've got to just be careful. All right? Let's see. So that's what you've got to do. What encounters are you going to have? Are you going to be only together or are you going to be separate? In some cases, a stag may even participate. Yeah, I participated in many of these.
It doesn't you don't have to limit yourself just to watching. you know you see on uh tiktok you see the tiktok ones where they do the hotel room they call it a you don't have to limit yourself just to watching. You know, you see on TikTok, you see the TikTok ones where they do the hotel room. They call it the cuck chair. You don't have to be in that cuck chair. You could be in that bed with the two of them and split roasting your girl. It's what you want. Remember, you're the couple. You lay the ground rules. You lay down everything.
Now, it's up to the bull to accept those ground rules because there's been many times where i would not accept the rules of the couple because for you know when i tell people i'm bi-friendly it doesn't mean i'm bisexual i'm okay with double vaginal penetration you know dicks touching stuff like that that's going to happen but i'm not okay with you know you trying to fuck my ass or you want me to fuck your ass as a man that That's not what I'm okay. I'm not down for that. So there have been times where couples have been like, well, you've got to have sex with him before you have sex with me.
And I'm like, no, that was not agreed upon. And unfortunately, I'm not that way, so we're going to have to part ways and so on and so on. So you've got to be very careful. You've got to be able to set your ground rules and be prepared for people to walk away, you know. But you can participate. Don't let no one tell you, another couple, another single guy or another single female saying you can't participate as a stag vixen. You sure in the hell can. It's your relationship. You do what you want. I'm just here to help you, give you a guide, give you some advice.
right take it for whatever it is following a sexual encounter with a bull the primary relationship between the vixen and stag is solidified as they affirm their connection amidst the intoxicating blend of fresh sex hormones and pheromones maybe that's why reclaiming is awesome because you get that stench and all that stuff you know the smell of pussy use pussy you know did he have a big thick cock and did he gave her pussy and all that stuff things like that there's you know there's pretty good you know some girls you know they fuck no their pussy gapes and all that it's real cool you know it's something new all right so you know enjoy that don't let that go to waste guys fuck your girl after the bull fucks her she will be fucking thanking you for it and you're gonna thank me for it for telling you that so why so what are the reasons why stag and vixen is a lord challenges one it challenges traditional gender norms by allowing women to take the lead some guys are very dominant where they don't want the female to take the lead now listen she's only taking the lead in the bedroom she's not taking the lead in the you know the finances or the head of household all right unless you want the female-led relationship there are some guys that want that where the female takes care of everything you're just there for the ride bless your little heart that's what what you want but it's only so if you're a macho man there's a lot of macho men here in texas you only let her take the lead in the bedroom she doesn't have to take the lead anywhere else just in the bedroom it allows her to be free be open and all that remember you don't have to play with men you can play with other women.
It's okay. All right? Also, it enhances desirability and self-care practices. All right? You might see your wife in a different light where, man, she's sexy. So wait a minute. So what you're saying is that guy, that girl, that guy, that girl, that couple, that guy, all want to fuck my wife. Huh, my wife must be beautiful or hot or whatever. Whatever comes in your mind. That brings desirability back. Maybe that brings in some new found, pumps some new blood into your sex life, your relationship with your wife or girlfriend and all that. It introduces an element of anticipation.
You know, you're getting ready to go to the club dress your woman up put her get her a nice outfit you know something real slutty a little tiny thong bikini or no panties at all you know do that you can get the anticipation talk about what you're looking for that night oh honey we're gonna get you a guy with a fucking huge cock and all that stuff. Stuff like that, you know, anything. Unpredictability. You don't know what the hell the night's going to be. You can go to a club. I'm going to Colette's tonight. There might be no one there, but then there could be everyone there.
You just don't know. It's unpredictable. The swinging lifestyle is very unpredictable. The clubs are very unpredictable because, you know, you can have 200 people at a club, and no one's fucking. No one hooks up. No one's just talking, partying, having a good time. You can have 50 people at a club. It's one big fucking orgy where everyone's fucking having a great time. So there's any club you go to, there's unpredictability. And just like in this stag vixen relationship, it's unpredictable. The flirtation. Get to watch your wife flirt with people.
You can flirt with people too, you know, harmless little little stuff nothing too risque yet you got the seduction all right she can how can she seduce another man can't she seduce another man all this comes into your new relationship that you're going to have with your girl your wife your girlfriend or whatever your partner like me so you know you got that all that stuff in there uh let's see introduces that okay we already did that provokes primal desires by imagining one's partner with someone else a lot of guys won't admit it but they do kind of like the fact that other men desire the woman and other men fucking their girl i don't know how many times i know, I've been doing this 28 years.
A lot of men love watching their wife with another man. It heightens excitement and witnessing the partner in a state of uninhibited sensuality with another. You know, maybe, you know, you fuck five times already. You can't get hard anymore. But hey, here's come.
Harry Hardine comes over here and takes your wife to pound town gives her a bunch of o's big o's and you get to watch that you get to see it happen it provides a rush of affirmation through their their the partner's choice to return home despite other options here's another thing you could talk about well she's going home with you there's no need to be scared listen if your fucking wife leaves you for another dude she was going to leave you anyways we all know that vanilla relationship swing relationship is she if you break up with someone and immediately they got someone that person was in your relationship before you broke up you know that come on people we're all calm we have common sense we all know that we all live through this shit so you don't have to worry about that she's going home with you elevate the pleasures through the biochemical aftermath of the vixen encounters with her bulls i ain't touching that it fosters a uniquely intimate bond and trust within the relationship promoting the sense of erotic freedom and security yeah think about it another man's pounding your wife there's nothing you can't tell your wife anymore there's nothing she can't tell you anymore honey i lost all the money uh stuff like that she's gonna be able to open up herself to you more because what else what's the worst thing that can she really do unless she tells you she killed a bunch of kids when she was like 20 or something.
I don't think there's anything bad. Challenge the traditional concept of a highly sexual partner who seeks pleasure for themselves and their partner's enjoyment. What better gift of love can you give your partner by saying, hey, you know what? Go out. Let's go out and have you have some fun.
go out and enjoy life, go and enjoy sex, you know, you work a stressful job, honey, you're the boss, well, let's go to a club, and let's, you know, let someone take control for once, you know, you know, it is what it, you know, just be whatever it is, it is what it is, I say, so those are some of the allures. And you might have more. Email me, swingandsinglepodcasts at gmail.com if you have any more allures. Clarification between the stag and vixen versus cock holding. All right. They're always, like I said, it always gets confused. There's a lot of gray area. It's not black and white.
All right. We don't live in a black and white society.
We live in a gray area, gray society in a gray area gray society while cock holding hot wifing and the stag and vixen lifestyles are often linked together they each represent distinct forms of non-monogamous relationships that involve a female engaging with other partners now i think hot wifing is where you solely are i guess A cuck But you don't fuck anybody else you just fuck your partner yet there's no degradation there's no humiliation in it I think that's what hot wiping is I don't know I get confused half the time the cock holding fetish and stag and victim lifestyle both involve a husband or male partner who enjoys watching his significant other with other men but their psychological dynamics are fundamentally different of course in cock holding the husband finds erotic enjoyment in feeling humiliated by watching his wife with another man believing that he cannot satisfy her sexual needs the ideal that she seeks fulfillment from someone else because he is not enough for her is what arouses him.
Cockholding typically involves female-dominated relationships where the male is submissive or enjoys sexual humiliation. Witnessing his wife with another man serves as both humiliating and arousing to him.
On the other hand, in the stag and vixen relationship dynamic, the husband enjoys the wife being with other men, not out of humiliation, but because he finds her attractive and is secure in the relationship they both deprive the pleasure from excitement of her engaging sexually with other men and women the vixen in this dynamic does not act behind her partner's back but with his support the husband admires her beauty flirtatiousness seductiveness and sexuality and is interested in hearing about or watching other interactions.
Now, where the cockhole is, I knew a cockhole couple and she would fuck other guys without him even knowing. So she might be out with the girls or whatever. She might fuck a guy in the backseat of her car or wherever, in the hotel room, whatever they did. But I had a friend like that and she would fuck whoever, whenever she wanted. While both Stag and Vixen and Calcoli appeared to be female led, in the Stag-Vixen relationship, the husband has a dominant role and is involved in all aspects of the scenario. Like I said, that's me. I want to be involved.
I want to pick out the dress, the panties, whatever. The place to go, the men who she fucks.
The Vixen may take charge, but always with her partner's enjoyment in mind and never at his expense stag vixen is a subset of the hot wifing lifestyle where the wife is sexually involved with other men while the husband finds it arousing the distinction lies at the level of involvement and cooperation between the couple in the stag and vixen relationship compared to the additional hot wifing to maintain a healthy stag vixen relationship communication trust respect openness and mutual satisfaction are crucial both partners team they work together building total trust and security in the relationships so let's look at this communication i always say communication is the biggest part this is where couples fail in the lifestyle and fail in the vanilla lifestyle they don't communicate you got to be able to say honey i want to watch you get banged by fucking five guys honey i want to watch you eat another woman's pussy honey i want i want to watch another woman eat your pussy whatever it is you got to be able to say it and as a as their partner male or female You got to be not take it the wrong way.
Don't take it personal.
It's just their sexual desires their fantasies and it might that's all it might ever lead to be is a fantasy i always tell people the best way to gauge if your wife or your husband would be into swinging watch a porno together see how they react to that porno you know and you'll find out and you'll be able to find out and engage it now just don't do it once do it a couple times to see how because you know what like i always said plant the seed into her his or her brain plant the seed and let it water it a little bit and let it grow and she'll come to she might he might say okay let's try this or hey i'll start i'll be open up and talk about it because you just don't know so communication We'll see you next time.
and she'll come to she might he might say okay let's try this or hey i'll start i'll be open up and talk about it because you just don't know so communication you got to be able to trust your partner if you don't trust your partner to do the right thing like i said that's why i always i don't trust it's not that i don't trust my partner i don't trust the people she's being with because i know a lot of guys like we're going to talk on reddit about you know they pull off the condom they don't wear a condom when they said they're told to wear a condom things like that and I don't care if they're married, they're not married I don't give a shit about that you take, fuck my girl in front of me make her fucking the happiest woman on the planet and we have no problems I don't give a shit about your home life maybe that's wrong but I don't really give a shit and you shouldn't give a shit about someone's home life either it's not your but I don't really give a shit.
And you shouldn't give a shit about someone's home life either. It's not your problem. As long as they don't do anything to you, you should be fine. Respect. You got to respect your girl. Respect your man. You know? If you don't respect them, how the hell are you going to... If you don't respect them, why are you with them?
You know what I'm saying openness you got to be open you can't be you know judgy you can't just say oh no that's horrible I ain't going to do that let's do this you got to be very open to all the things now I'm not saying you have to do everything I'm just saying you got to be open don't get angry because your man wants to fuck another woman Thank you.
things now it's not i'm not saying you have to do everything i'm just saying you gotta be open don't get angry because your man wants to fuck another woman because you know the first thing you're gonna do oh i'm not good enough for you i'm not enough for you you know that's gonna happen same thing ladies when you tell your man you want to fuck another man just say it's just because i'm a horny woman and i just want some different dick and you know getting strange one in a while is it's a pretty good thing so i don't know uh and all that stuff so remember to talk about that matter of acumen communicate all your things you'll be better for it excuse me engaging in stag and vixen scenarios requires a strong bond between a secure male and an attractive woman who are deeply in love and open with each other.
Now, I say attractive, but listen, we got to admit it. A lot, there are some people that are just not attractive at all. You know, for whatever reason, you're just not that good looking. Come on, we all know, we all see it. I'm just the only man or in swinging that would call it out for what it is. There are some unattractive people, but that doesn't mean you can't be a hot wife. That doesn't mean you can't be a cuckold. You doesn't mean you can't be a stag vixen. You know, there's someone for everybody guys. You go to any club. There's someone for everybody.
You might walk in, you know, you got that young, hot black, 20 year old, 20 something year old male. And he might not know. He'll probably get laid anyways. Cause he's black and all that, but he might not score with every couple, but they might pick, one couple might pick out the weird-looking dude that, you know, looks like he hasn't been laid since the, you know, Clinton administration. You just don't know. There's always, always say, there's always someone for, there's always somebody for somebody. You know, you're fine. Even in vanilla, there's always someone for someone.
You just got to be able to, willing to open your heart, open your communication, respect others, you know, and it will come to you. A lot of people are not into that. They don't want to communicate their, their desires and all that stuff. Vanilla and swinging.
The focus should be on continuous communication all right mutual fulfillment make your woman happy make your husband happy and exploring each other's desires do a bucket list i did a podcast on you know a couple's bucket list do that it's important to remember that the stag and vixen lifestyle may involve elements of extra business and voy and voyeurism. But at the core of the dynamic lies in the relationship between the stag and vixen. Yeah, you might be extraditionists where you like to have people watch you guys fuck. Then you find someone else to fuck.
Voyeurism, you might like watching people fuck.
Always prioritize transparency, mutual satisfaction, and growth together as you explore the fantasies in a respectful and trusty manner like i said you've got to be able to communicate this stuff if you can't communicate this stuff it ain't gonna work guys i'm just sorry you know i know you don't like to hear that but you know you come to the swing and single podcast it's the one that tells you the truth you know and all that so that's your little rant and rave about the stag vixen relationship something i'm looking for in my personal life and you know ladies if you are want to be a vixen I'll see you next time.
that's your little rant and rave about the stag vixen relationship something i'm looking for in my personal life and you know ladies if you are want to be a vixen hit me up at swinging single podcast at gmail.com or go check out swinging single podcast.com all things they see and remember gentlemen shave your cock and balls for your girl anyways let's go to reddit back on the swingers page the swingers redditreddit, whatever it is. So we're talking about, like I said, lies. A lot of people lie in the lifestyle. They don't want to tell the truth. So you know what? It is what it is.
We all take risks. So this one poster writes, guy lied about wearing a condom. All right. And this is a long one, so bear with me. Hi, guys. My partner and I have been swinging in a sexually non-monogamous relationship for nine months. Congratulations. Until now, we've always had wonderful experiences. Great. Last week when we went to a swingers party, we did a full swap with a couple. So my partner was next to me having sex with a woman, and I was with her male partner. As he went to enter me, I asked if he was wearing a condom. Because I didn't see him put one on, he said yes.
Listen to me to make sure I don't trust the words of your own eyes. It was dark, crowded, and his partner had performed oral sex on him just before he had got on top of me. i thought maybe he got in hard got him hard to put on a condom and i just didn't see it we had sex for five minutes then he got off me and i saw him put on a condom he returned and he continued having sex i was pissed you should be very pissed lady and also confused and frozen and even unsure if it was right to be so bothered by it. Fuck yeah, you should have stopped fucking. You should have slapped.
You know what you should have done? You should have grabbed his balls and fucking squeezed the shit out of him. You know, you have every right to be angry, honey. There ain't nothing you, there is no right or wrong. There's no wrong.
You, if you kick that that guy you squeeze his nuts and scratch them sister you know applause to you baby because that's what he should have done that shit i couldn't wrap my mind around it eventually i told him i was tired and i wanted to stop then he basically ran away my partner finished with the woman and found me i was pretty quiet and shut down trying to figure out how i was feeling like maybe i was jealous of him with the woman or just tired or i didn't know that maybe it wasn't it wasn't a big deal see this is where couples get fucked in the lifestyle because they're not communicating well they're not doing this stuff so this is this could be a relationship, a swinger killer right here.
Eventually, I told my partner what happened on the ride home. He was worried about STDs, but didn't say much else. Yeah, he, no, I don't know, because it sounds like, okay, he's only worried about STDs. I would be like, did you tell him not to wear one, or did you tell him to wear one? And if she would have said, yeah, I asked him to wear one, I would go back and beat the fuck out of him. I would find anything he knows. I would bash his shit, whatever wife's website. I would bash him on the fucking website.
I would do whatever I could to make that guy embarrassed and so other people know what a piece of shit this guy is.
Listen, if the woman asks you if you put a condom onom on you put a condom on you don't lie about it and she doesn't say anything she don't care if you wear a condom and you go inside without one that's fine that's up to you too as the consenting adults but she asked the dude she put asked him if he was putting one on and he said yes and he lied about it so about a day later it really sunk in what happened and i got worried about stds so i met just a guy and i said didn't realize there was no condom the first few minutes he's as he had a test recently he said sorry i was high he didn't seem high and no he wasn't had no he hasn't had a test yeah he's a fucking liar you anything this dude says, lady.
So you got to go just go get your test down. If you're really worried about it. He wasn't high. He was just fucking an asshole. Then he says, sarcastically, I guess. Thanks. I had fun, too. I reported it to the party organizer. Good. That's the very first good thing you did. Your boyfriend or your man should have done it, who took it extremely seriously. And I plan to just leave things there and consult my doctor and get tested myself. Yeah, go to a clinic, get tested. They're free. You know, you go to talent tested services, get one, a whole panel and all that stuff. But it got worse.
My partner was messaging the woman he was with about it. And then both of the couple started messaging me. She kind of blamed me. Of course she blamed you she because she's a fucking cunt she fucks she's in like she's in love with a fucking liar how i was how i was also responsible yeah you know what you are responsible you should have checked if you were worried about the condom but still it's not we're not gonna victim blame you're the victim here how should have stopped, all right. He asked if he had a condom on. He said yes. Why would he have her stop?
How he was just excited or high and forgot he didn't have one up. How the fuck you forget? Listen, there's no way, no man in history could forget to put a condom on. You wouldn't know if he had a condom on or you don't it feels totally different and when he realized he got up and put it on yeah now all right so maybe he maybe it's a possibility i don't know i still don't think he's still in the fucking wrong and this girl his wife his wife or boyfriend, girlfriend, is in the wrong too.
And he wrote to me saying he thought I knew he wasn't wearing one and was okay with it, which completely ignores the fact that I asked, all right, as he was about to penetrate and lie to me. Yes. This couple is the couples you need to stay away from. There are couples like this in the lifestyle where they lie for each other. They don't give a shit about anybody other than themselves. Also, both can't be true. Either he was confused and thought he was wearing one when he wasn't, or he knew he wasn't and thought it was okay with it. He thought it was okay. He didn't want to put on a condom.
Listen, no one wants to put on a condom, lady, but you have to. I didn't argue or reason with either of them. That's good. And said, thanks, but let's just move on. Good. Really the worst part was my partner's behavior. He said, yes, it's serious, but mistakes happen. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. The guy was just confused. They're good people. He don't know them, et cetera.
And when I asked him to do discontinue communication with the couple he said it was too intense for to for him he doesn't need to dislike people just because i do that's controlling of me and i didn't speak to me for two days okay just with that paragraph dump the fucker he ain't no good for you because trust me that shit would not fly with me someone's gonna be paying and i would not talk to the girl the other couple i wouldn't fucking and if i saw the couple again i go oh look at the guys who fucking lied i would say excuse me just watch out when you who wants to fuck you because he'll try to take the condom off or he'll say he has a condom on when he doesn't.
I don't play shit like that. When we fuck a bull, the bull wears condoms. No ifs, ands, or buts. Only person coming in my partner is me. No one else. The fact that he don't give a shit about it because he doesn't care about you. He's just fucking a piece of shit.
I man's a piece of shit lady i'm sorry i even told my therapist consulted my doctor been talking to friends everyone in my life outside my partner has been really amazing why are you talking about this shit with your part friends this should be discreet since then my partner did apologize and said he felt disgusted with himself for not supporting me more but i'm having a very hard time forgiving him i want to want to forgive him. You know what he realized? Oh shit, I'm going to lose my coupon to get access to pussy. I better start kissing her ass.
I felt very betrayed by his lack of support and not taking my side on a very black and white thing like this. Fuck yeah, you should be pissed. You know what you do? This is what you're going to do, honey. You're going to tell him you want to get back in my good graces? I'm going to go to a club and I'm going to fuck every man while you watch. You're going to have to watch me fuck every man if you want to ride this train again, honey. That's what you need to do. And see what he does. Because if he really loves you, cares about you, he's going to watch.
If he doesn't give a shit, he's going to split. I really feel really angry and violated.
I i understand why it's considered sexual assault all right and i really don't know what to do with all the angry feelings i have about it and the word of stds with a guy who is poly and swings doesn't get test and it won't be until three months i can be sure i didn't get hiv i just had two tests just two weeks ago i'm super careful always also sharing the spread awareness i learned to check with my own eyes the guys wearing a condom and if i didn't see it to tell them to put it on so i can check yeah that's good you learned something hopefully you learned to dump this man that you have because this guy sounds like a fucking fun's a noon uh and all that stuff so you know i don't know why you see why do women pick some of the shittiest men when you bring pussy into the equation guys get stupid and they only care about themselves you know it's sad that there are couples out there where where they can't communicate and they have issues with this stuff you know to me it sounds like he's just using you for a coupon he realized he fucked up and that he might not get to go to a swinger club anymore and he might not be able to get access to easier pussy so he's going to kiss your ass and all that so you know it's up to you whatever you want to do consent teen 975 it's whatever you want to do you know i'm sorry that it happened to you there's going to be bad experiences but you know just you know be careful next time you know because you just don't know.
All right. On, let's go on. Starchild, is it me? Question mark. Husband and I went to a private swingers party recently where about 15 to 20 people were present. Almost admittedly, I was chatted up by one of the men there. Okay, normal. So, 10 to 15, so was there single guys or couples? I don't know. We chatted some, but I declined play because he was extremely intoxicated, which happens, and was going from woman to woman, engaging in various forms of play without any protection or even clean up between partners, which honestly gave me the ick. Yeah, what kind of fucking party was this?
This was an orgy because this is what it sounds like, you know. He continued high pressure under the guise of just playing around, but then told the hostess that I was in no fun since I wasn't playing with him, to which hostess responded that I was obviously at the wrong party. So this must have been what we call a down-to-fuck party.
What a down-to-fuck party is, you're going there, you're fucking everything that's in there you're having fun it's so it's basically this was an orgy okay so okay maybe she was at the wrong party but let's see let's read on i thought perhaps they were all just played together frequently but his wife said that it was the first time meeting anyone there and several other people indicate indicated the same so like i said it was a down the fuck party there was probably rules that said hey this is a down the fuck party if you're not living in the fuck don't come you know i like those parties those are good self-explanatory like when i went when i was in buffalo i went to a couples party in ohio they would have parties once a month and it was basically for women that wanted men.
They would say on the flyer, on the thing, do not come if you're looking for couples, because this is not a couples for couple party. This is a couple for single men party. And, you know, they had, it was always a great time because they knew the rules. Couples that would come there, they knew the rules and knew what they were doing. Husband said I was being a little silly, and he was a bit disappointed.
I didn't engage more, but ultimately understood my concerns all right your husband's an asshole he just did an asshole move by saying he doesn't understand why you didn't engage more you know he should say oh i'm sorry that you didn't engage more so let's let's talk about what what went wrong and was there anything that went right and you can for the future change that but no he wanted to blame you all right so she edited i apologize i was trying to be brief since it was already long and hadn't meant to sound like husband wasn't supportive in the moment he absolutely backed me that's good all right maybe he's not much of an asshole it was only later when he was when we were discussing things that he expressed wishing i would have been more open because i also didn't engage sexually with him in the space oh that's kind of fucked up man why don't you put it out for your man and this is this normal it honestly left me a pretty negative opinion about the whole thing and it's something i now struggle with see this is what i'm telling you when you are a man you want your girl to be in swinging you got to be very protective very supportive and do your research and find a great place for your wife to go for her first couple of times for her first couple months maybe even years because one thing could put swinging out of her mind out of her her eyesight forever, and you're stuck as a single guy going to clubs, and you're hanging out with me with your dick in your hand.
Like I always said, gentlemen, remember this. You don't like single men, but guess what? You're one stupid decision from being a single man. Remember that. People get divorced in this lifestyle a lot, too. So, I want to be open. I want to open to it. Essentially, since it's a huge turn-on Thank you.
in this lifestyle a lot too so i want to be open i want to open to it essentially it's since it's a huge turn on for the husband okay but i found the whole thing just a bit gross all right so what he needs to do dude if you're listening do not take your girl to a down the fuck party take her to a swingers club where it's open and all that, where she could dance, she could drink, she can have a good time, she could have fun. Do not take her to a house party where they're going to be fucking everything in sight. A DTF party is not for your wife. Start off slowly. Take her to a news resort.
Let her see other people around. Do all that stuff, guy. You know, and the wife, you need to tell your husband this. You need to have an open conversation. Say, listen, I'm doing this because you get turned on by it. I'm not so turned on by it. And tell them why. What doesn't turn you on about it? What is keeping you back from enjoying the lifestyle? Then you got to go from there. All right?
So like I said, I don't know what to tell you, I don't know the specifics here, but it seems like the husband gives me the icks, and the guy that was there gives me the icks, because, you know, it was a DTF party, you should always clean up after you fuck someone, you know, clean your dick off, wipe your balls, wipe your assholes, shave your cock and balls gentlemen but you know this guy is just fucking dirty as shit but hey whatever and i think you know probably seeing the guy fuck around with no condoms and all that probably really fucking turned her off so like i said gentlemen when you're getting your girl into the lifestyle even for a girl trying to get her man into the style do do your fucking research.
Just don't, you know, Google something. Look at reviews. Look at the pictures. Stuff like that. Find people that have gone there and see what they say. Because this will make, if you take her to the wrong spot, it may make or break her or him. And you might not like the results of it. You do it right, you're going to have a great time. You do it wrong, you're going to have a short-lived good time. All right, last one. SeeCancel8829 on Reddit. Single men rep was recently chatting with someone about unicorns and single men.
Is there a term, a name for single i think bull whatever or dragon they argue couples who want single men are the true unicorns over a solo lady i'm not sure how i feel about that since i can see why some couples would want a solo lady over male since some guys can be too much or it's just comes down to preference what you think? I don't think couples that are looking for single men are unicorns. People always say, oh, it must really be tough being a single man. And I go, no, it's pretty fucking easy, actually, because I'm a real swinger.
I'm not the guy who is looking to get laid in between relationships. You know, I got dumped. I broke up with my girlfriend. I need to get sex. So going to a swinger club is easy, cheap, whatever. Then actually putting time into another one. Then when I get a girlfriend again and start fucking again with the girl, I will stop swinging. Then you got the ones who have no personality. They have no social skills. And they got a big cock, and, you know, they go to the swinger club and they can get laid. Because they can't talk to a girl, they can't talk to anybody, they have no social skills.
And you know what? Those are more and more every year because a lot of people with the internet, they don't know how to talk to each other. I could talk the panties off of anybody. I'll tell you that right now. Give want the woman and i guarantee i can get her panties off i can finger her if i can give her she'll kiss me or whatever it's because i can talk to people i can talk to a woman people nowadays can't so i don't think unicorns are the couples i don't think that is and of course everyone wants a single girl all right most people want a woman. That's like the ultimate fantasy.
That's like the ultimate thing for a man. That's spreading our DNA. That's spreading our seed to more and more women. That's what we do, reproduce and all that stuff. So, yeah, that's something that we always want to do. So that's what we always do. You think AC is going to turn down a threesome or two women? No, I'm not going to turn it down. Listen, my preference is for my girl to go to a club and fuck another man. But if she says, hey, this woman wants to fuck you, we want to have a threesome with you, I'm not going to say, oh, no, thank you. I'm going to be like, hell, yeah, let's go.
And all that. So, you know, it is what it is. Did I see some comments what they had? It's supply and demand. There's a huge supply of single men. Of course, yes, there is. And very little demand. Conversely, there is next to no single women in a huge demand. I disagree. There are a lot of single women. When I first started, there was never single women. Now I see more and more single women get into the lifestyle. Now, the problem is a lot of these single women might take an escort with them, so you don't know they're truly single.
But there are literally a lot of single women in this lifestyle. If they're very good looking, they're attractive, they're going to have a lot of friends. If they're semi-attractive, they'll have some friends. And if they're ugly, you'll know who you'll see them because they'll be by themselves at the club. No one talking to them. You know what? Don't hate the messenger, baby, because you know I'm telling the truth.
truth you know i'm telling the truth guys so it just depends but there are a lot of single women in the lifestyle now uh let's see what this this guy wrote a whole fucking thing uh let's see unicorns have done we've done search we've done we've done a search for single women looking for couples on our two most popular singer sites on a large bunch while there were a couple dozen options exactly three looked within our age range and attracted to us that didn't maybe sound crazy and demanding and title in their profiles yeah that's what I always say I try to find a woman that's not in the lifestyle to bring her into the lifestyle because they're not jaded by all the bullshit you know think about it if you're always told you're beautiful you're hot oh you're sexy you don't need no one you don't need a man you need us as a couple you kind of you build up that mentality where i'm i'm a 10 but when you're in reality you're a six you know you leave that club like i said you open those doors to the club you're down to a six you're not a 10 anymore every woman that goes to a swinger club is a 10 everyone will tell uh ugliest people will tell the ugliest woman in the world she goes to a swinger club how beautiful she is but when they get out of the out of the club all of a sudden she's back to being the ugliest woman again so you know it's just bullshit and that's why i try like i met some single women that know the game and just play the game but they know the couples are just fucking lying to them and shit and i like those i'm i have not like relationship relationship but i have friendships with those women because i can talk to them about stuff and they understand everything they're not jaded by the bullshit they've been getting since my wife has created a solo female profile for couples and solo males, she has been inundated.
Yeah, the problem is we are both essentially turned off by one-penis policy couples. Yeah, I call those one-penis policy couples lesbians, you know, but hey. And I do want to see, if you're a one-penis policy couple, can you please send me your cock? Because I want to see this incredible cock that can tame a woman where she would never want another man ever. I want to see that. Send it to swingandsinglepodcast at gmail.com. I got to see this cock, man. You guys show it to me. Single men, the challenge here is quality, not quantity.
I would say that our standards are not crazy high here, but a ton of guys, but but not my quality i see a lot of them where they have to be six foot tall um they gotta work out we gotta have muscles and all that stuff so it's like okay so you're eliminating a lot of guys so you know maybe that's your problem there i don't know uh see what else anyone else because he wrote a whole shit he did actually good job on writing that stuff he did a rebuttal i've met a lot more couples as a stag than i have met unicorns as a couple women are just less likely to feel independently empowered into swinging and don't have the diversity their sex lives the way single men do the majority of unicorns online are just for uh farming attention fake or unreliable yeah of course that's why i said go to a club but club.
But you can find them. Go to Florida. When I moved to Florida, there was a lot of single women in that lifestyle. But like I said, you've got to bring something to the table other than your pussy, girls. If all you got is your pussy, you ain't good. No, that's all right.
If this was 20 years ago, then I would see some validity to the claim that couples looking for single men are rarer than unicorns nowadays not so much we see plenty of couples that are mostly focused on single men there are entire subsets of this scene from hot wife to cook where single men for her is their main way to play lucky people i'm sure that i'm sure that some couples do it 20 years ago actually this guy's wrong 20 years ago there's a big call for gang bangs when I started like I said I would go to a gang bang Friday night I would get off work I would go home shower then I'd be off to a gang bang Friday night Saturday night same thing rinse and repeat rinse and repeat like fucking shampoo washing your hair you I would do that all the time and that was fucking 20 years ago 28 years ago uh let's see a single bisexual woman brings more to the table in most situations she is open to playing with both halves of a couple a single male with a straight couple is really just there as a fancy fulfillment and stunt cock if you are seeking a single male you can be very very picky as you have a plethora of options.
You know what? You don't have a plethora of options. That's the problem. That's what you don't understand. I'm trying to tell you couples this. Single men, there's a difference. You got swinging single men. You got single men. You want swinging single men. You got to find them because if you pick a single male, you are going to be disappointed. If you are seeking a single woman, well, the numbers and competition are not in your favor. Yeah, go buy a fucking hooker. Why is that? Just go fucking, you're out in the town, go get a fucking hooker. Call an escort. It's probably a lot easier.
But it's not impossible. You know why a lot of couples fuck up and they can't find a single woman? It's because the guy gets creepy. Gentlemen, stop fucking. If your wife is going to get you another girl, shut your fucking mouth, shut your pie hole, sit in the corner and let your wife do all the work. Let her set everything up because the minute you open up your mouth, you sound creepy to her, especially if she doesn't find you that attractive.
She might fuck you because your wife's attractive and she's vibing with your wife and you're just there for the ride but if you don't shut your mouth and you open your mouth to her and you're not that attracted to her she's not that much attracted to you guess what it's going to be a no and you're gonna be fucking fucking your wife again you're not going to get that threesome if you shut your mouth don't say a word let your wife do everything you just get them drinks you feel her drinks up you feel your wife's drinks up you be word, let your wife do everything, you just get them drinks, you fill her drinks up, you fill your wife's drinks up, you be a servant, guess what?
By the end of the night, you probably might be having two pussies for you. But you know what? All you fucking couples, I see it at the club, you fuck it up because your man wants to open his mouth. Shut the fuck up, guys, and just let your wife do the talking. You just sit there, sit in the corner. Take my advice and guarantee you'll get laid. You'll get a threesome with another woman. All right? So, but anyways, you know what? With that, I think it's time to get on out of here. Shave your cock and balls, gentlemen. Go to ascoswingandsinglepodcast.com.
Email me, swingandsinglepodcast at gmail.com. For all you one penis policy couples, I want to see that cock. I got to see that one cock that's going to, that fucked you so good that you don't want no other cocks in the world. I got to see it. But with that, everybody, I hope you enjoy the show. And remember to keep on swinging. We'll be right back. I want to be the angel when it's over. You'll get lucky like a four-leaf clover. Baby, I'm a holly to your joker. I want to be the angel when it's over.
You'll get lucky like a four-leaf globe Baby, I'm a holly-turned-joker Closer Will you pull me in and says come over? I can barely keep all my composure I can't play no games, can't keep my focus Yeah, did you notice? I wanna be the devil on your shoulder I wanna be the angel when it's over You'll get lucky like a 40-th floor Baby, I'm a Harley to your joker I wanna be the devil on your shoulder I wanna be the angel when it's over You'll get lucky like a four-leaf clover Baby, I'm a Harley to your joker We'll be right back.
I want to be the devil on your shoulder I want to be the angel on your shoulder You'll get lucky like a four-year-old Baby, I'm a whalley to your joker I want to be the devil on your shoulder
