In today’s episode, host AC Maxwell delves into a husband’s desire to experience a MFM (male-female-male) encounter and the dynamics of couple swapping. We also discuss why the term “bull” can be a turn-off for some in the lifestyle community, exploring the importance of language and respect. Plus, hear the heartfelt story of a couple’s very first night at a swinger club—and why they absolutely loved every minute of it. Whether you’re curious or experienced, this episode offers honest insights and real-life experiences from the swinging world.Tune in now at swingingsinglepodcast.com and join the conversation!\[email protected]
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This is Bethany Frankel from Just Be With Bethany Frankel. Listen, I have a bone to pick with these dog food brands calling themselves fresh, natural, healthy. Sounds great, but a lot of these quote-unquote fresh dog foods in your fridge are not even 100% human grade, which is why feed your babies just food for dogs. It's good enough for Biggie and Small's, my precious babies, so it's good enough for your babies. 100% human grade, real ingredients, beef, sweet potatoes, green beans, delicious. These are foods that you would want to eat, not that the babies would ever share.
Just Food for Dogs is the number one vet recommended fresh dog food backed by over a decade of research. No marketing fluff. My dogs lose their minds at dinner. They run to the bowl, tags wagging, paws tapping, full Broadway performance every single night. So I do care about the food I feed Biggie and Smalls. So go to JustFoodForDogs.com for 50% off your first box. No code, no gimmicks, just real fresh food. Welcome to the Swingy Single Podcast with your host, A.C. Maxwell, broadcasting from the legendary Upside Down Pineapple Studios in the heart of Texas.
For over two decades, I've embraced the swinging lifestyle as a single male, and on this show, I'm here to share my wildest tales and experiences with you. So gentlemen, shave those cock and balls, get some lube and tissues for cleanup for later. Ladies, if you're there with your man, take your panties off or pull them to the side and sit on your man's face. This is what we're about to see some, hear some, cozy, some awesome and uncensored eye-opening stories from the Swinging Single Podcast.
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Alright, yeah, another edition of the swinging single podcast today we are going to be talking about some deep desires and some confessions from some hubbies about what they want their wife to be doing then we're going to talk a little bit about those silly men that call themselves bulls and maybe where the hell did that word come from and all that stuff why is it a bulls and we're going to talk about a couple's first time having swinger sex or being an orgy so all that and more on the swinging single podcast make sure you go to swinging single podcast.com start check check out my website see all this good stuff that there everything AC is on there swinging single podcast.com also if you have any questions or concerns go to swinging single podcast at gmail.com and all that great stuff there's so much stuff out there right now going on in the world hopefully you know watching this and this for 30 for 30 to 40 minutes will get you out of your funk, all the bullshit that's going on, the sadness that's going on with the death of a, I don't know what you would call them, but, you know, of a political figure type stuff, and watching him pass away last, about on Wednesday, was it Wednesday?
Wednesday. I was going do a show Wednesday, but I didn't feel like it because of the fact that that happened, you know, it got me down because, you know, you shouldn't be, you know, murdered for your thoughts and opinions and all that stuff, and then I noticed that a lot of Democrats, liberals are on TikTok and on Facebook celebrating his death and all that stuff, and I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with the world today? Why would you celebrate another man's death? Because guess what? You know what? What if that was you? And it could be you because you'd never know.
There's like over 400 million guns in the United States alone. And there's only about 350 maybe million people.
So there's more guns than people in this country, you know and just because something you disagree with someone's opinion it doesn't mean you need to be killed or anything like that or die or anything like that and you know i over the years i noticed that swingers whenever you don't agree with swingers couples and all that stuff they get very angry about it they get very offensive they call you names and do shit like that and that's why you know what you don't see a lot of single guys doing podcasts that will call out the hypocrap the hypocrites and all that bullshit in the swing your life so you'll see me because you know what fuck it if you don't want to fuck with me because i have an opinion good i don't want to be your friend but if you you know you can respect people's opinions we'll probably get along real good we might not agree but you know what we'll still get along because that's how I roll I love just talking to people and all that stuff so you know it's just sad it was a sad time so I couldn't I didn't bother to do it so I waited till today Friday to do one because I wanted to really um have my head in it and you know rest in peace to that man that passed away and to those kids and those people in the school shooting in colorado too you know you know gun violence is not good violence but you know we just got to figure out as a group of people why more gun violence now than there is there was ever before you know and i can tell you one thing no one could help that more people fucking you know if more people embrace their whoredness and would just go out and fuck and let loose there'll be less people doing this shit you'll be more busy fucking and have to worry about shooting people so you know i'm looking at this wonderful wonderful lifestyle called swinging and like i said i noticed a lot of people like i said if you don't like my opinion that's okay but you can call me names all you want it just makes you an asshole and that's what it really is you're an asshole because you need to respect other people's opinions and shit you know not everyone's gonna have the same lifestyle like my my experience in life the swinging lifestyle the lifestyle alone is totally different than what yours would be as a couple or what yours will be as a single woman it's just the way it is so you know respect people you know especially reddit people i've read it swingers are the whore what some of the worst people they really call you names and you know they try to call you stupid and shit like that you call me stupid all you want your wife still wants to fuck me so you know who's really stupid Thank you.
some of the worst people they really call you names and you know they try to call you stupid and shit like that you call me stupid all you want your wife still wants to fuck me so you know who's really stupid anyways so let's get into it let's talk about your first time you remember your first time i remember my first time dating swimming social club and all this stuff so this will be a long just a warning i have absolutely no one to let all of this out to cause no one we know personally knows about our about or participates in any of this so here it goes so they didn't have anyone to talk to poor people last night my wife and i decided to go to a swinger party this was an orgy night at the party at the party at scouts scouts in pa we were planning on going to club eros eros cleveland ohio for their couples night last night for the first time but we decided against the club setting and found pas instead to start we have never been part of the lifestyle oh there are newbies congratulations newbies we have conquered pretty much everything sexually possible with each other over the past 12 years, but only with each other.
Nothing wrong with that. My wife loves to read, and while reading a little bit of everything, she loves her smut erotica books. She began talking to me a little while ago about sex clubs in one of her books. Extremely curious about it all. You know, everyone thinks a sex club is like one big orgy. That's not true. Especially, you know, in America. If you go to Europe, well, that might be a different story. I have always been curious about them. But never really brought it up before to her.
We began talking for the next few weeks leading up to yesterday and decided to go for it our plans was just go have some drinks watch each others watch others maybe talk to some people but ultimately we didn't believe we would do anything with anyone or even with each other just go and enjoy the atmosphere in the night out together so i'm gonna guess that they probably started fucking everybody at the club like i said when newbies get there you know they go out well we're not gonna do this we're not gonna do that they put the ruse out like this couple did and the blood leads to their genitals and one thing leads to another and they're having a little fun in the hot tub or in the bedroom or the orgy room but anyways when we got there we were streaming nervous i honestly don't know which one of us was more nervous but we were determined to do uh the very least do what we sat out to do and have fun we paid and walked in as soon as we walked in there were a few people sitting at the bar by the entrance a few sitting at a table on the other side of the room the next day when we seen immediately was a naked guy walk right by us i personally expected it but my wife was like what am the only man she's ever been with or been naked in front of her hmm i don't believe that uh she's lying to you buddy for majority i don't know maybe she's telling the truth but i don't know about that she's had to see it's a fucking internet there you know the digital you've seen a naked man for a majority of the first few hours we sat we had some drinks and just talked and people watched a little bit later in the evening when it got a little busier a couple came and said hi and sat by us on the couch upstairs we weren't really interested but they were the first people to acknowledge us so we stuck up struck up a conversation we explained to explain how we were super new to everything regarding the lifestyle and we were super helpful and gave us all kinds of advice okay the advice was you could fuck us we we're good people probably who knows hopefully they gave him good advice and then legit advice anyways after a while we walked around a bit more then came back to the spot then everything started happening like dominoes we sat with them and watched the guy get pegged via a female glory oh wow that's different but awesome i would love to see that it was exciting to watch as we were we have little experience pegging i mean little experience but she has pegged me before oh so the wife pegged you before good job all right i'm like this guy this guy's open-minded i like it my wife was starting to get drunk and we would make out here and there and touch each other a little bit but nothing else alcohol as the night continued a small group orgy was going downstairs six people were just going at it and everyone else was surrounded them watching we watched for a bit then decided to go back upstairs to the couch and make out a bit more one of the regular members came up to us being funny have you fucked her yet trying to trying to give us a little push to do something because everyone was waiting for us to do something.
We talked for a minute and a good few, had a few good laughs and proceeded to walk outside. This is Bethany Frankel from Just Be With Bethany Frankel. Listen, I have a bone to pick with these dog food brands calling themselves fresh, natural, healthy. Sounds great, but a lot of these quote unquote fresh dog foods in your fridge are not even 100% human-grade, which is why feed your babies just food for dogs. It's good enough for Biggie and Smalls, my precious babies, so it's good enough for your babies. 100% human-grade, real ingredients, beef, sweet potatoes, green beans, delicious.
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No code no code no gimmicks just real fresh food we're talking about it and how awesome it was to watch it all i began teasing my wife and shoved shoved my hand down her pants and undies she was soaked wet i started to finger her while she stood by the fire while others were standing close by talking she was nervous and freaked out a bit but excited at the same time it was so much fun we then went back inside and sat at another part of the upstairs room out of nowhere out of nowhere a naked girl who had both agreed earlier in the night was hot came out of one of the private rooms seconds later another naked hot girl walked out grabbed that girl and they started making out and grinding right in front of us i personally was literally buzzing and shaking from excitement i have been with multiple separate partners before my wife and i've watched lesbians kiss but seeing two extremely beautiful naked girls going at it in front of me just had me going crazy i looked at my wife and with the holy shit this is awesome face on she looked at me and was like do i have to say it first because that's fucking hot the night continued a bit and we kept finding ourselves making out every time we stopped somewhere else to take a breather we had agreed we wouldn't go further and that than that we lied eventually went back up to this upstairs couch and everyone was downstairs except one solo guy and the other end of the big couch facing us dick out masturbating we didn't pay no mind and kept making out good for you you shouldn't let people the people distract you from what the real goal is pussy and dick my wife was hesitant to go further because she was so nervous about people watching especially the loner guy we sat and talked it through and moments later i had my shirt off and all clothes all her clothes off she was dripping soaking wet and i was getting fingering her at this point loner guy moved closer and politely asked if he could continue to watch.
My wife and I shrugged and said, Sure, of course. Thank you for asking. There you go, gentlemen. Make sure you ask. I began eating her out immediately. She was moaning so much and seemed to be thoroughly enjoying herself as I was as well. My main pleasure comes from eating her out.
I love making her feel good and love tasting her wet pussy every chance i get i came up to ask her if she was okay and knows he had he had drew she had drew in an audience four to five guys were now surrounding us masturbating watching me pleasuring my wife it was so crazy but so exhilarating and amazing and absolutely loved it see just because a bunch of guys are watching doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it they enjoyed it they were loving it after a while a few orgasms out of her later we stopped agreeing to finish the job and when we went to our hotel afterwards she reclothed and walked and talked to a few more people that introduced themselves to us and left we of course had a lot of fun once we got back to the hotel and amazing sex twice before finally passing out at 4 a.m good for you good needless to say we haven't stopped talking about the night since it was so much fun extremely exciting and one of the most memorable experience of our lives we also confirmed that my wife is at least bi in terms of finding another woman attractive and fuckable for her despite her being with another girl or mentioning any girls attract this to me before she checked out all the girls more than she even gave a look to most of the men she even agreed that if a few girls were both thought were hot were the next time we go jesus cry you gotta write better we'd be open to a threesome with one of them oh of course a threesome with two girls and they've given a chance i'm so happy we got to experience the night and we cannot wait to go back again again sorry if it was so long of a post i don't really i couldn't tell anyone i knew or at least i had to come and tell the story to all of your first timers that haven't that haven't yet or anyone even remotely curious just do it.
Go. You won't regret it. Okay, don't listen to that. That's poor advice. Okay, this is the reason why. You just don't go. You have to ask yourself, is swinging worth your relationship? Now, this is a great story. I'm glad this happened. They had a great time. They're going to go back. But for every one of these stories, there's another story where it's the opposite, where couples, you know, don't get along. They fight. They argue about the shit that's going on. So you have to be very careful. Take your time.
There is no rush to, you know, go to a swingers club or swap or do any of that join the lifestyle you can take your time do your research google fucking the swingers lifestyle google you people need this and learn how to google find your own information and go out and examine it talk to your wife talk to your husband talk to your partner say hey is this for you because you know what it's easier said than done yeah man it'd be cool to watch my girl with another girl I don't know. Talk to your husband, talk to your partner, say, hey, is this for you?
Because, you know what, it's easier said than done. Yeah, man, it'd be cool to watch my girl with another girl and all that stuff, or my girl with another man.
But until it really happens, you get kind of scared, or you have these weird mixed feelings that, okay, your wife is making noises she never made before with me, so what the hell hell or vice versa your husband is you know doing things to the girl that you never had done to you yet but he hasn't done that to you so yeah be very careful about that so i just say just don't do it i say take your time examine everything check cross all t's dot the i's make sure everything's going to be good. Now, when you do go, enjoy it, communicate, communicate, and communicate some more and all that stuff.
Because, you know, and it also depends on the club. If I was brand new, I would not take my wife to any old club. I make sure you know maybe maybe a club that's in vegas maybe a good club there um somewhere maybe colette's in new orleans is a great club on a saturday night going to secrets hideaway in cassimi florida caliente would be a great place because there's more people there it's more of a you know a you know a crowd that's more excitable Oh, my God.
caliente would be a great place because there's more people there it's more of a you know a you know a crowd that's more excitable more fun to be with because some places are you know they're just totally they don't they're in to themselves as a click and all that stuff it's hard to meet new people so you know you gotta be very careful when you're gonna start swinging and i'm so happy that this couple had a great time and that they're going to go back. We can always use good swinging couples out there in the swinging community and in the lifestyle community in general.
Because, you know, there ain't a lot out there anymore. So, you know, you got to be very careful. But, you know, it is what it is. Okay.
Let's see see let's see what else now what are some of your confessions this gentleman talks about his deep desires and seeking advice so here it is i've been married for seven years oh the seven year itch our marriage is fine stable but honestly it feels boring now the spark is kind of gone life feels like routine i come from a very conservative family and so does my wife she's a bit pious more traditional in her thinking that's why eat that's is why even writing this feels crazy no man it's not crazy it's your fantasies it's what you want you know it's what you're desiring right now so go out and you know write about it do whatever but you know let's see what else he says lately i've been getting those these thoughts about exploring the swinging lifestyle stuff like mfm or even couple swapping just the idea of it gives me the this thrill like something exciting and new has been missing in my life.
At the same time, I feel like I'm crossing into a completely forbidden territory concerning my background and who my wife is. Now, your background shouldn't matter. A lot of conservative people are in this lifestyle. And your wife? Well, we'll see. I try to slowly test the waters with her.
We have been watching all types of porns doing 69 playing adult cards etc i have been suggested a couple massages she's reluctant but a part of me feels like i keep bringing it up gently maybe she'll open up no that's not necessarily true you have to be very careful now and all that stuff so you know Well very careful because he could be come off you might be saying it's gentle but she could be it might be saying it's pushy so what i want to know from people who's actually done this one how do you approach your partner in the first place especially if they are conservative all right this is what i tell them i just so flat out you know um mandy i really love you complete me and all that stuff but you know we're sexual beings me and you we've been together for a long time you know and i always thought about you know what would be like for us to add some spice in our sex relationship our sex uh life maybe open it up to other people or you know what you know honey maybe just go to one of those sex clubs and we can just watch other people and maybe people can watch us and you know do that or you know what how about going to a nude beach how about we try going to a nude beach you know one of those nude beaches and all that check that out and all that and all that stuff and yes so I would try to say something like that even if she's conservative or not what not what worked not bothering her about it didn't work it worked talking you know being open and honest with all the questions that the person Thank you.
not bothering her about it didn't work it worked um talking you know being open and honest with all the questions that the person would ask and just telling them about it going to details you know don't leave no stone unturned and all that what didn't work keep asking about it and pretending that i'm not what i am i am what i'm not stuff. Stuff like that. Things, you know, you just got to communicate. Communication will work. Two, what was your first experience like mentally and emotionally? Mentally, it was good. You know, I was received with respect and love from the community.
This is way before, you know, the single guys pretty much ruined it and all that for everybody but you know it was what it was but it was great but i you know and all that physically mentally emotionally all good did it mess with your head afterwards no because like i said i was always single so i really can't answer this i don't know this is bethany frankel from just be with bethany frankel listen i have a bone to pick with these dog food brands calling themselves fresh natural healthy sounds great but a lot of these quote unquote fresh dog foods in your fridge are not even 100 percent human grade which is why feed your babies just food for dogs it's good enough for biggie and smalls my precious babies so it's it's good enough for your babies.
100% human grade, real ingredients, beef, sweet potatoes, green beans, delicious. These are foods that you would want to eat, not that the babies would ever share. Just Food for Dogs is the number one vet-recommended fresh dog food backed by over a decade of research. No marketing fluff. My dogs lose their minds at dinner.
run to the bowl tags wagging paws tapping full broadway performance every single night so i do care about the food i feed biggie and smalls so go to justfoodfordogs.com for 50 off your first box no code no gimmicks just real fresh food how it would feel if you know my you know if I got married and my wife was getting fucked by a bunch of dudes and all that stuff. I don't know how that would make me feel when I'm with my partners, you know, you know, and I do, you know, I have some, you know, that little, you know, that love for my partners, but I don't have that love, love.
But when I, when I get fucked by our dudes and they're moaning and screaming their heads off, they're squirting all over the place. I feel great.
Any regrets, breakdownies no jealousies you know i think i'm a great person so you know uh breakdowns no breakdowns yeah any regrets yeah you know you know not not falling through i met some great women in my life and i didn't follow through i should have maybe pursued them a little more than just you know whatever and did it bring you closer as a couple i can't answer that because i can't really tell you but i have you know the ones i have done and i'm partners with we are close as friends you know we're very close you know i've maybe even best friends so you know it is what it is so you know all that stuff so hope that answers your questions buddy you know i know you're torn on one side i'm dying to experience it i know you're dying like every man is dying to have a two a threesome with two girls but you know sometimes it's just better to be a fantasy than turning into reality because like i said you don't know what you're getting yourself into it can break your relationship but it can also make your relationship so they could it's a double address it's a 50 50 you know it's like people always oh i wonder how many swingers have the high divorce rate i go no swingers don't have a high divorce rate swingers have the same divorce rate as vanilla couples because you got to remember swinging might be a small part of the problems whereas communication uh financial problems come up family problems come up you know and they just hurt fucking couples and you know couples get divorced even in the swingers lifestyle and all that stuff and i know a lot of swingers don't like to hear that because you know they're kind of like liberals and they can't and you know you can't have a different opinion than them or you're a piece of shit so but you know that's my opinion and that's what i've been seeing for the past 20 plus years that you know couples swingers couples get divorces just the same rate as other couples or vanilla couples and anything like that uh so you know let's see what is there what is there here's a good news here's something there is no convincing if you are interested in this uh to try to fix something in your relationship it will not work see now that's a good point that guy made a good point because he said his relationship feels dull boring so that ain't swinging ain't that.
Start doing some kinky shit with her. Start fucking every day and bring it in later on. So, you know, that's what you can do. But, you know, I don't know. But you just got to be very careful, dude. You know, like, maybe it's just meant for you to be, you know, be, you know, what is it?
Be on the sidelines, maybe you were never meant to be, play the game, anyways, now, something I could talk about, because bulls, bulls are single men in the lifestyle, some think bulls are single men, they have well endowed, or some people think bulls are just single men, they're single men, so here we go, my have been in the lifestyle for about four years we enjoy couples very much but also love bringing in the right single guy into our space for play recently we have been messaging with a single that is very experienced as a bull i explained to him that we are very comfortable in the lifestyle and know what we want but but really stay away from terminology.
We just don't feel we're comfortable labeling ourselves and others. So I guarantee these people are a Gen Xer. Because when I was growing up as a Gen Xer myself, we were always fighting labels. We didn't want labels. And now, you know, this generation now, they all want labels.
They're something this, they're this, they're that, they're everything, you you know so i guarantee they're gen xers maybe i'm wrong you never know because i am wrong guys i know i am we call people we play with either by name or the husband wife after a lot of messaging with the single male and finally getting our so getting some of our dates he referred to himself as my wife's bull and oh my god i went from all into i'm sorry i just can't and i agree We'll be right back.
of our dates he referred to himself as my wife's bull and oh my god i went from all into i'm sorry i just can't and i agree i don't like to be called a bull because you know why i'm not a fucking animal a bull's an animal and this is why single men don't get respect and why couples don't respect single men's even the ones that play with single men is because these fucking guys call themselves bull you know bbc bull bwc bull all this i'm a bull okay great you're a bull so you're a fucking animal i'm unfortunately for you i know and luckily for me i'm a man i'm a gentleman and i will be called by my name ac or sir or whatever but i'm not going to be called you're not i'm not your bull all right i find a bull to be very emasculating and you seem proud by a state if you prefer to yourself as a bull or a stud please don't message us and now i totally get it even if this is the term for the role does anyone else just get super put off by a guy who claims to be a bull uh for my partner yes me and my partner when i'm with my partner my partner wants to get you know have a lot of fun we try to stay away from excuse me some of the guys that use that terminology hey i'm a bull i'm this and i'm that okay listen dude we don't care what you think you are you know just because you say you're a bull doesn't make you a bull you know so uh we just stay away from guys that say they're a bull we don't want a bull in fact i don't really want this person to be my wife's anything just come in and be kind and be fun does anyone else get this or am i being difficult now i have had to cancel this guy because he's probably not a good fit but this is how he sees himself and his role so i don't fault him yeah the couple i play with i don't call myself the bull to that couple i just i know that's m and that's z you know i'm not interested in you know um you know being their bull i'm their friend i'm their buddy you know i just take care of the wife and all that stuff and all that so you know you know you just got to be do you care if you someone calls himself a bull does it really matter to you that's what you got to ask yourself when you're with your partner your wife your husband you got to ask yourself what do you want you got to communicate what do you want do you want a bull do you just want a guy you know and do you think it's cringy and stuff like that and you know some people do some people don't well let's see the term bull is a cringiest thing about the lifestyle no cap uh i don't think it is the cringiest thing i say a lot of other shitty things but no i don't think it is when you're a 35 year old waiter that can't get a girlfriend you're nobody's bull dom or daddy uh okay maybe maybe so who knows it's right up there with the queen of spades yeah bull queen of spades you know all stupid fucking terminologies and i thought spade was a racist term you know you call the black person a spade, that was bad, but I guess calling yourself a spade is a black person a spade is a black person a spade, but I guess calling yourself a spade is a black person a spade is a black person a spade, but I guess calling yourself a spade is a black person a spade, but racist term you know you call the black person a spade that was bad but i guess calling yourself a queen of spades that you only fuck black men is okay all right oh my god today i learned queen of spades and it didn't take me more than a few seconds to go grok it what it meant and how the fuck have i been in this sub for like three years visited some other nef subs etc and never saw this term before i had a brief thing with a black woman i met at a party previously and she actually was one of one was the one asking me have you been with a black woman before and when we meet and played a couple times was grilling me on whether she met the stereotype or whether or how it was different for me that played with a black woman i'm going to tell you something black i have been with black women there's no difference pussy's pussy sorry sorry black is a buzzer bubble you're not even you're not better or or you know better or worse than your counterparts your asian your uh your white and your hispanic counterparts i was honestly kind of flabbergasted not sure how to respond to that i really liked her at the party and enjoyed the hell out of her playing with her but her being black wasn't the reason for any of that and she was one she was the one assuming it would be for me and wanted some feedback on it it's not that i don't see color or any of that nonsense it was just that being black is part of she is, but it's not only what she is, and I really enjoyed her for everything she is, not separating out for a special consideration, if you will, okay, now it talks, talks about Queen of Spades and all that stuff, um, so anything, let's see what else, anything else, nope no i don't know but anyways you know the terminology stuff like I said there's a hundred I did a show about the 101 swinging terms I go Jesus Christ when I started this it was only like you know one term two terms actually so you know I don't know but anyways one more before we get going out of here our first time this will be long just warning i absolutely i let's see and no not that we already did that one oh okay and let's see what to do okay all right so to bring down the mood let's talk about stds stis whatever you want to call them so recently my husband and i had our first swing experience full swap with our friends we loved it until i got itchy now i have hsb after our first time fuck my husband and i are still reeling from this and trying to learn as much as we can about this virus but honestly it has made us feel like we never want to swing again we are both in our 20s so maybe that will change but now we just feel hurt and angry the people that gave it to us say that they don't know they had it despite getting regular tests and i believe them yeah because you know what a lot of testing doesn't do herpes you know why because herpes is like the most one of fuck i think like 80 of the population has herpes so you know i don't think they test it for unless you tell them to because i know on the talent testing services they don't test for herpes and all that the hard part is that they are so apologetic and constantly needing us to tell them it's fine you don't you didn't know i forgive you etc and alleviate their guilt ah what a mess this week has been one swinging experience and now a virus for life breaks my heart i'm thinking i'm taking the news right, but my husband is having a harder time, but I'm the only one with the symptoms.
Does everyone else have a story like this, but have come out on the other side? You need some hope and peace in mind. Okay. I've been lucky so far, you know, with the advancements of pills and all that stuff.
You can really take that stuff and keep it from catching any of these uh three letter viruses and all that stuff and you know unfortunately any type of play orally or intercourse is dangerous in any life vanilla life and in the swingers lifestyle maybe more so in the swinger lifestyle because you are maybe with multiple partners but you know you still have the same risk in the vanilla life too you know there's no difference between going to a swinging club and fucking a couple or going out to a bar and just picking up some random people at the bar and fucking them it's the same damn thing same in the course same oral sex whatever so you got to be very careful of what you're doing now was your condoms involved did you not wear condoms or anything like that so you know if you didn't wear condoms you only really have yourself to blame for that.
And also, do you know if you had it before? Because you could have had herpes before you fucked this couple. And you just, and it just brought it out. Having sex with them just brought it out. Something like, I don't know, I'm not in medical field, so I don't know if that could happen where it can be brought out by something. So you just don't know. So you don't know if, when you had it or when you caught it.
I don't know if that could happen where it can be brought out by something so you know you just don't know so you don't know if when you had it when you caught it unless they can tell you when you're calling it can they tell you like the date the year so that'd be pretty cool if they could though and if they can so you know it's just one of those things where you got to be super very careful you know if you're worried about it wear condoms for for oral sex too. Don't go bareback on people. Don't do anything like that. And you'll be okay. Now, what should you do now?
HSV is very common in the swingers' lifestyle. I know people don't want to submit it, but it's very common.
If you probably went to Secrets and tested all of them for herpes, shit, probably 80% of them have herpes herpes i don't know but it's very common in people outside it's like like you just just google the fucking numbers of herpes the herpes virus in people if you had chicken pox i found out if you had chicken pox you have a you have the herpes virus in you so i'm like what the fuck man all those kids in second grade all have herpes now shit so i was like god damn man you know so it's very common uh what you should do now it's just you know when you play with someone tell them that you have it and you're taking precautions and so that people can take precautions including whatever uh you need to do condoms whatever and all that stuff so you know it is what it is so let me see they said they had something they got i got they said they got tested guys don't worry i had a full sti panel including bb yeast trek cg hep all that stuff all right hsv large antibodies came back positive hsv large came back negative indicating that an acute infection that was not present earlier in life okay that's good so you couldn't tell if you had it so good for you you know that so you know just tell people you don't it doesn't have to stop you from swinging you know and you know what people take risk every day so let the people if you find a couple attractive and you tell them you have herpes or hV, whatever you want to call it, and they still want to play with you, then that's on them if they catch it.
You know, I wouldn't, but, you know, you know, but I'm just saying, you know, let those people be. Let me see what people say. I said, I think this is fairly common in the lifestyle community.
There is also a difference between the HSsv1 and hsa2 one of the reasons i don't think it is regularly tested for is because something like 70 percent of americans have hsv1 so if you haven't yet found out which it is all right condoms can certainly help to keep it from spreading but it can be can be spread from mouth to pussy for example you may have played with friends who have hsv with condoms with no issues i think you can simply let any party play partners know at a time in the future yeah this and you know what the funny thing is you do see some people that are honest about it online and all that said hey yeah we have and all that so you know you can decide if you wanted or if you want to play with us or not and you and like i said if you play with them you take a risk but you also if you fuck strangers you're also taking a risk even with condoms so you know you just gotta be that's why i say this lifestyle is not for everybody because it's not it's not for the faint of heart or anything like that uh let's see what else anybody else say anything yeah but i said it's probably you know very it's more common than what people think you know you shouldn't feel like it's the end of the world if you got it uh no let's see in almost all cases uh hsv2 outbreaks will continue to happen almost forever the lesson over time to where some only have outbreaks every other year or so first of all, you have an outbreak do not have sex even with the condom it's not worth the risk latest data i saw years ago is like 40 have it in the u.s oh okay 40 maybe they did okay life is fine just be honest and let prospective partners know maybe give the couple you got it from a little bit of a pass.
HIV-AIDS 2 can linger in your body for years before you get an outbreak. They truly may not know they had it. Oh, yeah. That's true, too, so you never know. But would you play with that partner? Would you be friends with that people again, or would you just totally dump them? I don't know. Let's see. Yeah, so, you know.
you just totally dump them i don't know let's see yeah so you know you just gotta be well it sucks for these people and i feel bad and all that stuff that happened to them because you know i want people to have a great time and have a you know have a great time have and enjoy the lifestyle and all that it offers because this lifestyle can be great the lifestyle can be awesome for people the right people and all that stuff and when you get one of this you get this the std sti whatever you want to call it you have you know negative thoughts and stuff like that so it's it's hard for you to imagine that you're going to have to live with this for the rest of your life and it gives a stain on the swinger community you know not all of us are bad not everybody's a bad person in the swinger community there are some great people in the swinger community and all that stuff so you know you just got to be vigilant know how to prevent things and if you have something just be honest and tell people because you'll be surprised how many people will still play with you and still be your friend even when you have herpes or anything like this like that i know i know people that had chlamydia syphilis and gonorrhea you know you know you just get it cleared up you take whatever you got you clear it up and all is all is good you just be smart next time uh smarter at least you know and if you're not well then that's your fault and i can't protect you i can't say anything positive about you you know things like that but it is a dangerous it could be this lifestyle can be very dangerous so you know watch out and be good and take care of everybody remember just because the person doesn't have the same opinion as you doesn't make that person a bad person that was that was what great about our country we could debate we could talk about things and could talk about things and not get upset about things.
We could be friends. Nowadays, I don't know, people. You don't want to be friends with someone with your different opinions. Like I always said, I can be friends with the Republicans and the Democrats, but Democrats can't be friends with me because my opinions are not aligned with theirs. I don't believe everyone should be able to do whatever they want to do. I believe people should, you know, have that freedom to do things that make them happy, but as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. You just can't go willy-nilly doing everything you want.
You can't be walking out nude on the street with your dick hanging out with your titties sagging and all that stuff. So, you know, I just don't. I just I just want to. I just wish all you people peace and love and just enjoy fucking. Don't worry about the other shit. The other shit's going to take care of themselves. But take care of yourself. Take care of your wife. Take care of your husband. Take care of your kids. Take care of that fucking family because that's the most important part.
At the end of the end of the day when you're gone only people they are going to mourn you is your family no one else is going to mourn you not those friends you met at secrets or caliente they're going to go on with their life so why and so will the rest of the world but your but those wife those kids, your parents, they all remember you. So, take that advice for whatever it is. Hope you enjoyed this episode. Because I have. And all that stuff. But, you know, it is what it is. So, with that, remember to shave your cock and balls, gentlemen. Go to swingandsinglepodcast.com.
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