Join host AC Maxwell as he delves into the intriguing world of unconventional relationships. In today's episode, AC interviews the enigmatic Duchess of Dick about her thrilling experiences with threesomes, orgies, and group sex. As they discuss these taboo topics, AC and the Duchess engage in lively banter that will keep you entertained throughout the show. Tune in for an eye-opening and engaging conversation that challenges societal norms and explores the complexities of modern relationships.
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Let's be honest. Buying cannabis shouldn't be complicated, sketchy, or low quality. That's why I want to tell you about Mood.com. That's M-O-O-D dot com. Mood ships federally legal cannabis straight to your door. No medical card, no hassle. And here's the kicker. The quality is better than anything you'll find at your local dispensary. Yeah, I said it. Whether you're into edibles, concentrates, flour, or just looking to explore, you'll find it all at Mood. And it's not just the variety that makes them stand out.
Every product is sourced from small, American-owned family farms that care deeply about what they grow. It's cannabis you can trust, delivered discreetly, and ready to elevate your mood. And because you're a listener, you get 20% off your first order. Just head to mood.com. That's M-O-O-D.com to get started. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another captivating episode of the Swinging Single Podcast with your ever curious host, A.C. Maxwell. And the Duchess of Dick has rejoined the Upside Down Pineapple Studios to fill in today. We're diving.
Today we're diving headfirst into the realm of desires and exploration within the dynamic and electrifying world of swinging. And we're going to talk about life too because you know what? We got to talk about life too. All right? Got it? Join us as we embark on a riveting journey into the alluring and often misunderstood realm of fetishes in the swinger lifestyle. Now, you're a fetish girl, right? I have been known to enjoy. There I am. Here I am. Yes. Occasionally. Yes. All right. So this is right up your ballpark. My favorite ballpark of all if I want to doubt it.
From tantalizing taboo to exhilarating exploration, we'll explore the diverse tapestry of kinks and fantasies that add spice and death into the swinging community. But that's not all. In today's episode, we'll also tackle the provocative question of why couples should consider embracing the liberating experience of orgies. Now, have you been through a few orgies in your time? Uh, I will.
Let's say two or more couples you another couple and another couple no i have not well then you ain't an orgy veteran i am not so you're saying ac the single male is the orgy veteran and you're not when you had a couple you got that nice poutine between your legs and you never got an orgy not an orgy wow i'm amazed and i'm very proud of myself so discover the profound connections and in height and intimacy that can be forged through shared experiences of pleasure and exploration in a group setting so buckle up and prepare for a mind expanding dive into the complexities of human desire the intricacies of the swinger lifestyle and the transformative power of embracing your deepest fantasies.
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By listening to the Swinging Single podcast, you acknowledge that you have read and understand this disclaimer please contact us at swinging single ogmail.com by listening to the swinging single podcast you acknowledge that you have read and understand this disclaimer and agree to its terms shave your cock and balls gentlemen oh yeah shave those cock and balls gentlemen you definitely gotta shave those cock and balls would you agree i've had it both ways so So what would the Duchess prefer? Probably a little manscaping is helpful. Really? It's helpful, yeah, for sure.
So you don't mind getting some pubic hair in those teeth? Well, I mean, that's doing a lot right there in your teeth, but I've had it both ways. It's not terrible. I don't know. As long as the dick is good, right? As long as the D or the dick, whatever you want to call it. As long as the dick is good and the energy is good and the connection is there. Yeah. It's all good. Of course it should be. All right, so we're going to talk about some taboos, some fetishes and orgies, which AC has been in many of them. And unfortunately, yeah. How many is many? Fuck. I can't even count.
Like, if you ask me how many women I find, how many women, what? What? I'm here for it. I love it. I'm laughing with you. If you, like, if someone come up to you, hey, what's your body count? I go, honestly, I don't fucking know. Now, I don't know. three, four different women in a night. But then most of the time it's just one woman. I would think that's most of the time. So, well, we'll talk about this. I'll make no assumptions then. No, don't make assumptions. Yeah, you know what you do when you make assumptions. I sure do. Oh, okay. So we're ready. So let's start talking about it.
So participants in the swinger lifestyle, whether couples or singles, indulge in a variety of sexual fetishes are ranging from mild to wild and kinky what do you think is your most wildest kink you have that would fucking shock people when you say shock people do you mean like just like like even workers or no hell no don't no don't ever i don't understand why people bring the shit at work do you tell people at work god no fuck i was about to say what's wrong with you girl? No, hell no. I don't understand why people bring this shit at work. Do you tell people at work? God, no.
Fuck, I was about to say, what's wrong with you, girl? No, I probably wouldn't be employed. I don't know. Why not? Why wouldn't you be employed? This is what I don't understand. Why are people, are you working in the public? No. I'm not a public figure. So why would you not be employed? I just don't trust my employer as far as I could throw them, probably. Have you ever seen one of your co-workers at one of these fancy, nice type places? No, thank God I have not. The closest that I've come is seeing them come across like a dating app. Oh, yeah. Swipe left real hard, y'all.
Don't mix that up fuck no you know i thought tinder says you can now i think with your contacts you can block them interesting yeah i think you can block people like you block certain people from uh texting you uh message you know i don't know i saw something i just fucking swipe i don't give a Whatever. If they see me, they see me. So what? Right. I mean, it's just a dating app. It doesn't mean anything. They'll know I'm a swinger. But you know what? What is Tinder there for? To get laid. So. Also true. Yeah. So anyways.
So one of the advantages of swinging is the chance to explore different fetishes that may not typically be explored in your other context. You know, like when you were married.
When was your first time you ever had non-vanilla sex while i was married while you were married so like you weren't single you weren't crazy in college eating pussy no i was not i was like let me guess you're the good girl i was a tame monogamous college girl trying to not flunk out of college shit you know how i find slutty girls i have no idea ask them how they were in college if they were sluts that they said oh yeah he fucking did all this they did all they're not slutty anymore but if you get a girl like you they'll take a couple dicks in the hand in the mouth and the puss they will And they'll eat pussy.
That's true. So I'm seeing a lot of that. When I find out, see, I should have been doing my own. I should have had like an Excel spreadsheet of all this shit. You need an X and a Y. X and a Y. I know. Access and the graph. It's like that one chart. The hotter she is, the crazier she is, except college and whatever. But I just think that if you, like, I was never a whore in college. I had, I fucked two girls in four years. Okay. And look what a fucking whore I am now. I mean, you're just making up for it. Let's be honest. Buying cannabis shouldn't be complicated, sketchy, or low quality.
That's why I want to tell you about mood.com. That's M-O-O-D dot com. Mood ships federally legal cannabis straight to your door. No medical card, no hassle, and here's the kicker. The quality is better than anything you'll find at your local dispensary. Yeah, I said it. Whether you're into edibles, concentrates, flower, or just looking to explore, you'll find it all at Mood. And it's not just the variety that makes them stand out. Every product is sourced from small, American-owned family farms that care deeply about what they grow.
It's cannabis you can trust, delivered discreetly, and ready to elevate your mood. And because you're a listener, you get 20% off your first order. Just head to mood.com. That's M-O-O-D.com to get started. That's exactly, that's why I think that's my theory, is that you're making up for lost time, because I go back and go, God, all those girls, I could have fucked at those parties, because I was this very serious student and athlete. And I think about that too. Like, man, I could have just been slutted up.
i should have wore shorter shorts and hoochie mama tops okay whatever i'm gonna stop you there you don't need to wear shorter shorts we're gonna fuck you anyways i can't it's funny like oh she dressed so sexy i go who cares go clothes gonna be off in five fucking seconds it's like lingerie i go don't worry about the lingerie baby just i'm gonna be ripping that off of you anyways i do love a little lingerie though i will i do like a garter hose the garter belt and the hose that's hot i do because you can keep that on and i don't want to pull your underwear panties to the side because you never know because you might get friction there and might cut your dick oh yeah that would ruin a night that would would ruin a night and probably a couple more after that you might get a scar because that happened to me once that's rough that's yeah she had those crotchless pantyhose but the hole wasn't fucking big enough oh no and it fucking rubbed my dick raw and it was just hurt i'm so sorry but you know why i still fucked her i went through the pain oh i didn't give a shit i was like fuck it it's like you know i might not get laid for another two three four weeks you never know so you gotta do it like i said it's it was it was there was a time it was rough for a single guy in the lifestyle but you didn't have your kinkiest shit till you got married that's that's correct yes what was the first kink you did i think the first kink it was decided well not so much decided but it was discussed that the thing that i really wanted to try was getting tied up and um if you'll listen to the last podcast i was on which is some time ago yeah um i think we we chatted a little bit about my dom and i can't remember if we did or not.
We did a little bit. We did a little bit. So your dom was not your husband. That's correct. Yep, but they knew each other. They're like, yep, I'm a dom. Okay, so you've got to take us back. Let's rewind. Yes. You're married. You've got a man. I've got a man. You have a dom. That's not your husband. That's correct. So how has this come up that you need a dom? Or is he like me where it says, because I'm not into that stuff. But if we were together, I'd be like, go find yourself a dom. Well, it's like, how does anybody know what they like? You're watching a lot of porn.
You find the stuff that you need. Porn is horrible. Porn is not an idyllic sort of thing. But it's like, yes, this gets me going. I want to see what it's like to be restrained or to be tied up or someone hold my wrist down, something like that. And that's kind of- But you didn't get penetrated by your down, did you? Oh, yeah. Totally. Oh, whoa. Totally. So, OK.
So your your husband says what does your husband say about this he was supportive okay he was willing to to try and let me see what it was like and at first it was very much like okay we're both gonna go have a session to get well let me back up here let me clarify here I would be the one restrained or tied up or stuff done to don't worry about it this ain't no professional show we don't care about shit like that just breaking shit you're not breaking anything I will not break anything I will not actually break anything but I would be the one who's actually getting tied up and then my ex would be involved in you know, the tying, the slapping, the fucking, the whatever yeah, your eyebrows went way up just like their dicks, it was great if you could if you're a woman, right we know that, definitely does getting a guy's dick hard in front of you turn you on I don't know.
if you could if you if you're a you're a woman right we know that definitely does getting your a guy's dick hard in front of you turn you on i mean if i happen to see it like like yeah so say like a little bit like yeah look what i fucking did because i know when i make a girl squirt i'm like yeah look at what i fucking did yeah no it's very much like oh okay message received that's wonderful i'm glad we're on the same wavelength so their dicks were hard you just got to see their dicks get hard this is the very first time no so the very first time it was there was a lot of conversation beforehand you know sort of negotiating okay which is very it's like a.
It is though, because you don't want to step outside of your bounds, your boundaries. You don't want to disrespect somebody. You want to make sure everybody's comfortable, especially when, when you're being really vulnerable, right? Not only are you going to be tied up, you know, I might have a gag in my mouth. I may not be able to say anything. Okay.
Well okay well if something is wrong how am i going to signal to my dom or my my then husband hey something is wrong i need you to loosen the restraints whatever it is you know so there was a lot of trust involved and so how we built on that at first was we met in a hotel room neutral playground i was clothed to whatever degree I was comfortable with. And, you know, some layers came off eventually. But that's because I was comfortable. Right. And so we just went from there. And that's how it got started. And it was great. It was a lot of fun. So that first kink was tying up. Yes. All right.
Good. So engaging in the swinger lifestyle allows individuals like duchess of dick to either observe a particular fetish did you go watch first i did not so you fuck you just i just went like i just went all in i had a huge amount of trust and maybe too much um not sure if that's hard to say but you survived it right i survived it was a good experience and you wanted it was positive and i want and i was curious and i wanted more yeah yeah so see it wasn't bad I don't know.
you survived it right I survived it was a good experience and you wanted it was positive and I want and I was curious and I wanted more yeah yeah so see it wasn't bad it's like I just thought sometimes a lot of people would just go check it out it's like when couples go to the swinger club for the first time we're just going there to watch and see what it's like yeah no it was very uh it was not like that at all I guess when you describe it like that it was it was kind of all in or not at all and and that's sort of how i i am in general but you know it was a good time and i got really lucky because i've not met a single not met but you know dom and a nut no not another like that since really oh so bad so okay.
Huh? It takes a certain person. We can always go somewhere where you might be able to find some of those in Florida. Florida, there's also, I mean, there's websites and stuff out there. I'm just talking about these are professional doms and shit. Oh, well, I don't know if I'm there. Why not? They just tie you up. They'll ask you what you want.
You do your little negotiation you know it's true yeah they'll tell you but they're very good and i and i was impressed as a non-fetish type of guy i was impressed how they ran their thing because it's inside of a nudist resort swinger resort oh they have their own dungeon they got a lot of shit i mean a lot no i don't actually i can't really say that because that's all i know so i don't know if they have a they but they got a lot they got the stuff you put your heads in they got crosses they got other stuff they they got saint andrews they got cages and stuff that's a whole other level that i'm that's not really for me you know but you know but you don't have to use all this.
But you don't have to, yeah, it's, it's very a la carte. Yep, so the fetishes they are curious about, like Duchess was, and actively partake in exploring it. So to begin, let's provide a brief overview of some of the, what constitutes a fetish. Now, not all these are gonna be, you might not disagree with that they're a fetish or not, but some of them are.
So, what, a fetish encompasses any sexual act or encounter that deviates from traditional one-on-one sex now can we disagree or agree on that i i disagree i don't think a fetish is something that it could be let's be honest buying cannabis shouldn't be complicated sketchy or low quality that's why i to tell you about Mood.com. That's M-O-O-D dot com. Mood ships federally legal cannabis straight to your door. No medical card, no hassle. And here's the kicker. The quality is better than anything you'll find at your local dispensary. Yeah, I said it.
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Outside of one-on-one, it can be something, I think it's more, a little more extreme to me, maybe because I've been saturated with the swinger lifestyle for the past 20 plus years. I just don't think, I think a threesome is not a fetish or I don't know, I guess it, maybe it is. By that definition, I think that, that it would fall under a fetish, but I don't consider it to be one personally. See, I don't know, I guess maybe it is. By that definition, I think that it would fall under a fetish, but I don't consider it to be one personally. See, I don't either, but some people would.
But some people would. But maybe some of the younger, more newbie type couples would might see it. So I don't know. That's true. I don't know. So let's see. One is, what about partner swapping? I don't consider that to be a fetish. Now, what's the difference between a fetish and a lifestyle? A lifestyle, to me, when people say it, it means you live it. That means it's 24-7. I would agree with that. That's why it says a lifestyle. Now, if you're just a swinger, you know, Monday through Friday, you don't fucking do a run.
Maybe Saturday, once a month, you go to a swinger club and you find people to fuck and have fun with those to me are swingers i'm more of a lifestylist because i would pretty much live it 24 or 7 i would consider but it depends on who my the future partner is and all that because you know she might not want that but she just goes on a weekend because i'll be like fuck it we're out on a tuesday and you see a guy you like i'm like hey buddy you want to go fuck my wife in the back seat shit like that that's wild yeah so but that's part of the lifestyle yeah but that exactly so partner swapping is part okay it says partner swapping is cornerstone of swinger lifestyle which is so true also they.
You ever hear anyone say, what, wife swap? I have, not in a while. Usually it's like hot wifing or, you know, the hot husband kind of thing now. Usually what I find, though, lifestyle fetishes and all that, they usually go with porn. What's ever cool, hot and porn? Yeah, because when I first started, and I tell everyone this, I got very lucky when I first started. It was 1998. Gang bangs were the rage. I mean, every porn star from fucking, even Jenna Jameson all the way up to fucking Houston 5, Houston. There was a porn star called Houston. She did 500 gang bangs.
She called it the Houston 500. Oh, my God. Jasmine St. Clair was in the gang bangs and shit like that. So all the women were looking for gang bangs. So every Friday saturday night all i think i had to do is go online and it was it was tough to find them because you had to find the right websites because internet's new yeah and i remember every friday saturday night i'll get invited to a gang bang then one then long as you can keep your dick hard and fuck when there's a bunch of other dudes in the room and all that, you're golden because other couples will say, hey, this guy's good.
This guy's good. And I would get calls from people like emails like, hey, you want to come to my fuck my wife and all that? We're doing a gangbang. So gangbangs were big fucking back then. So I was fucking, like I said, I was fucking like a champ. And you get like maybe two, three wives there that also want to do gangbang. Wow.
So you fuck at one night that's what i'm saying you might fuck four or five now yeah then it just died out a little the gang bangs died out it was more fucking couples and couples then it became the taboo was the interracial stuff started coming in and it was big and all that so you know whenever i see porn and i see the porn porn is going, that's what usually is big in a lifestyle because fucking idiots watch porn because they think they really think guys like all these guys have like huge monster cocks. Yeah.
When they go and they go, oh, he's got all these guys got big dicks and they go to these porn. They go to these swing clubs and there's just average sized dudes. And all these chicks are just itty-bitty waist and big tits and big ass. And they're not. And they're fucking huge. They're big. I love them. I love. I always say I'd rather have a thick girl than a skinny girl. Fucking skinny girl's fun. But a bigger girl's fun because you know what? She just fucks better. I think they're just real. Yeah. I think they're just real people. It's sad.
But yeah, I haven't heard wife swapping for a long time. Alright, so you know. That's one. Another one is the M I don't know.
people it's sad so but yeah i haven't heard wife swapping for a long time all right so you know that's one another one is the mfm which is the male female male threesome or you could put the male male three female threesome see when i when someone says male female male that means the dicks ain't touching there's no sword cross no no sword fights when someone says male male female that means bisexual guys swords are fighting double dp and all that see i don't think i even knew that much that see what you learned i know i had no idea you gotta watch the wording how about that because you know what bisexual males are pretty much coming in to their own now that's true they're having a moment in the sun they are and it's good because you know i always i always get pissed off when swingers said swinging lifestyle is all inclusive i go no it's very exclusive yeah single males are excluded bisexual males there were there are clubs that will kick ban couples if they knew their husband was bi that's pretty out out there.
Fuck. But that's a lot. It was back in the early 2000s, mid-2000s too. Yeah, it's not like now. I don't think they can fucking, they wouldn't even bother doing that. I don't think they care. But like I said, I get secrets when I go there. I don't see bisexual guys fucking in the hot tub and pool and shit like that. I never see it. It always goes back into the room.
think that's it's i wouldn't risk more taboo right because like i said i'm very bi-friendly i'm not bisexual but i'm bi-friendly where you know you said hey man ac let's go i want to let's tag team a guy and you want to get a guy and you want to do dp i don't mind having two dicks inside you it ain't gonna hurt me ain't gonna stop my erection i'm still gonna have fun well that's good news you're gonna have fun too you're gonna be stretched out like a motherfucker takes all sorts yeah so you know i think people think if i say bi-friendly that i'm actually bisexual i'm not i don't want to i don't want to suck a dick i don't want my i did one time have sex with well i had a threesome and the couple ended up giving me a blowjob.
And it was the best fucking blowjob I ever had. How about that? Male and female. It was nice because one had the shaft and one had the balls. One had the shaft and one had the balls. It was great. I mean, when I came down her throat, I fucking almost choked her. Oh, my God. Because I came so much.
This was in my 20s oh my god yeah and i remember it was in italy to make it better i was i was in italy visiting family and next day i go to a club and this hot-ass couple starts dancing with me we're all dancing i'm like fuck and i mean like this there to the day still to this day the best fucking couple i ever had sex with best woman i had sex with the best looking husband i mean they were it was like brad pitt and jolie angelina jolie back in the day they were like that hot when they remember remember when they were together yeah i sure do i fuck it was like fuck it. I was like, holy shit.
And I was just remember they he she started kissing up on me. Oh, OK, we're going to we're going to it's just going to happen because I never thought in a million years this beautiful, beautiful Italian woman was going to fuck me. I thought it was because I was a good dancer that she really wanted to dance. No, she fucking said, let's go. And I was like, OK, if that guy wanted to fuck me, I don't know if I could have stopped him. Because I was so memorized by, fuck, man, he takes his fucking clothes off. He's got fucking six-pack abs and shit. Looks like fucking Brad Pitt, too. I'm like, shit.
Wild. I'm like, I'm a fucking slob. I'm like, what the fuck is she seeing in me? Doesn't matter. I guess it did it because we fucked all night. I must have came five times, six times. I was shooting dust by the end. Damn. Yeah. Because, you know, nowadays, the first pop is always going to be the biggest pop in the night. Now, everything else after that, it goes smaller. It comes to where you just have an orgasm. You don't shoot anything out. That's so crazy. That's because I'm old now.
When I was younger, if I was younger, i would fucking cover your face in jizz that's that i came a lot illustrative mom whatever what do you want i could i would make you a glazed donut oh my god yeah so you know like i said it kind of sucks when it it doesn't suck to get old but it kind of sucks that shit you lose when you're in your 20s when you can shoot from across the room shoot ropes because you you would like girls want you to pull out and come on their pussy and you pull out come on there and you shoot them in the face instead because you know those first those yeah no i've had that happen yeah it's like now you can't fucking you can barely get it to the pussy now oh my gosh give yourself some credit i know i know just but threesome particularly the male female male uh arrangements where one female is intimate with two males simultaneously are highly favored within the swingers lifestyle now not saying that's everyone's cup of tea but we're just saying that is a big uh thing these encounters are facilitated by the surplus of single males in the community I have a problem with that because i don't think there's single male i don't single males when i say single males i'm not talking about swinger single males no i'm talking about guys who are in between a relationship are too stupid yeah just guys i need to get laid and this is the only way i could get laid because i can't fucking talk to women i've not met anyone who can't talk to a woman right uh namely because they are talking to me and i'm like yeah okay i'm turned on let's let's go fuck for a while it's good well it's harder for well go to a regular bar it's hard to talk a girl off her panties i have not ever been hit on at a bar really a regular bar not talk about that swinger club correct a regular bar, it's hard to talk a girl off her panties.
I have not ever been hit on at a bar. Really? A regular bar, not talking about a swinger club. Correct, a regular bar. All right, yeah. So that's everybody's challenge if you ever come across. Yeah, shit. The Duchess of Dick. We're going to have to get a t-shirt with your big-ass titties. Oh, my God. Duchess of Dick. That's what I need. It's advertising. Come on, do it for the show. In the name of the show. Yeah, in the name of the show. But what about at a swinger club, obviously, right? No, I've not really been approached. Have you been by yourself? No.
I've not been brave enough to go by myself. We should put you undercover. But you'd be surprised how many single women go to a swinger club and they don't get hit on? That's so crazy to me. Then what is the point of a swingers club at all? Even I think people are scared to talk to people because the way it might be perceived. Like if you go up and talk to someone, you're like, like for guys, I can tell you from my point of view, if I taught, if the girl don't like how I look, I'm a creepy dude. Okay. But a girl might think the same thing, though. I don't know. I don't know.
What would you think if you went by yourself and no one was hitting on you? I would feel rejected, honestly. Right, yeah.
But at least you're rejected and you go, oh, that girl girl's creepy woman um this creepy guy is hard to get away from yeah no creepy guy is not a good reputation right not great uh although creepy lady is probably not not excellent either no no don't give me that because guess what you could do you could be the creepiest woman on the planet they still would never give you that label you would have to do something really up in that club well i mean to be socially awkward in a place where people are being vulnerable is probably really that lowers the bar to how easy it would be to be labeled creepy yeah but see but for me man or woman me all you gotta do is go oh that guy's ugly looking i don't like that guy okay i'm a creep i don creepy i don't think you're a total creep fuck you hey you're one that took my jizz so you know what maybe oh so you know what yeah so what does it say about you oh i'm just slutting it up in my 30s it's great we'll talk about that later another one another taboo kink would be the male the female male female threesome yes this is probably the most i'm gonna say i'm gonna go out on a limb this probably is the most popular fetish in the lifestyle with one male being intimate with two females potentially engaging in bisexual activities too but like i always say if i when i hear female male female i think the two females stay away from each other and it's all about the dude if you say female female male i think everyone's scissoring everyone doing everything see i never really thought of okay prior to today right i would not have considered that to be true i think there's an implied understanding that if you type out female male female everybody's doing each other right but what happens if the girl is straight what happens if you're married your wife is straight she has she's strictly dickly she don't want no pussy what do you do then you want a threesome and she's okay with it she said yeah let's have a threesome then that's fine i would respect that i might see if she'd be willing to like i would see what the boundaries are if you know if she'll make out with me a little okay i think she would i think more women would make out with other women but that's about it that's probably think that's probably true.
I think every woman is bicurious until they figure out that, yes, it's for me, or no, it's not. It's the softness of your lips. They are very soft. Yeah. Softness of the lips. Especially for me, I got a beard, so it's kind of creepy. Beards are not entirely creepy. I'm just saying it's kind of weird.
You get that brushell.usher yeah it's like your sandpaper but then when you and if you're a woman like you're married 10 years and all of a sudden i got that beard for five of it for the last five years you kiss a woman it's nice and soft there's no fucking brusher and all that i know that's true so it's just different of course so i think yeah i think you're right i think more women would be into the kissing maybe titty fondling yeah i mean who doesn't want to see what titties feels like yeah because i had one i hang out with a girl she is not bisexual but she'll make out and do the titty thing she don't know what she goes i ain't eating pussy though she tells me i ain't pussy i go okay that's fine and congratulations to her she got a boyfriend vanilla boyfriend though i want to ask her how long do you think you're gonna last because she's really into the kink like oh really oh yeah she does the houses things and all that in houston i mean she'll be okay hey i'm in houston i go what the fuck you're in houston every fucking She lives all the way on the boondocks.
Oh, wow. she does the houses, things, and all that in Houston. I mean, she'll be like, hey, I'm in Houston. I go, what the fuck? You're in Houston every fucking day? She lives all the way out in the boondocks. Oh, wow. About an hour away. I'm like, how many fucking times do you come into Houston? Oh, like every weekend? I go, what the fuck? Wow. I go, oh, I'm going to a party. I'm going to this party. I'm like, Jesus Christ. But it's all, she says she don't fuck anybody there. So I don't, like I said, I believe her.
She's a good fuck, but I'm so sad she's going the monogamous way with this guy off the market but i wonder how long it's gonna last because look at you because you're a good case study oh i hate that word case study what word do you like i don't know i haven't thought about it until right now yeah i don't have no you're a good a good example. I will allow that, yes. Because I don't know. Because honestly, at this point in my life, I tell women, nope, I'm never going to be faithful to your ass. Yeah, but as long as you know that, I think that's a good starting point.
I tell them, I'm not going to be faithful. But like I said, I would love for you to go out and let's go find some guys for you to do.
And I watch and participate and that's lovely that i say that but i mean it's honest it's honest and that's all you can ask from people and hope for in the end well you've been on tinder you want honesty shit you ain't gonna get it on there seldom fuck it's hard that's why that's why people they email i'm getting more people ask me about it i'm like listen i'm not talking to you about swinging that's true i'm not talking to you about it if you want to talk about it let's meet up let's go have some coffee somewhere i'm not fucking having a conversation over a text because honestly it's hard to explain over a text it is hard to explain but i mean depending on the sort of i guess the tags or the labels you assign yourself on whatever dating...
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I want to ask that, too, because Tinder you can go on, whereas you put strictly swipe left and right on E&M people now. Oh, wow. Yeah. You want to see it? I still got it up. I can put it up. I mean, I don't mind. mind here so now you just go here oh so it goes finds people you just hit that little four dots uh-huh non-monogamous oh wow all together yeah and it shows people who i guess they put non-monogamous on there, too. So you just swipe. And you know what? It's the same fucking people. I don't know if they're swiping left on me or it just keeps recycling the same fucking women.
I guess you'll find out eventually. I guess so. But that's something new. That is new. Like I said, it's hard to get honesty. And when people want to talk about it, I'm like, listen, I don't want to talk about it. Let's go meet. I usually just give a brief version of my opinion. Right. Like, where I'm at personally, and then, like, that suffices their curiosity. Yeah. And if they want to know more later. So they jerk off. That's what they're probably doing. I mean, in one sentence worth or two. Dude. Three max. Do you know men? You don't know men, do you? No. Clearly.
I don't do you know men you don't know men do you no clearly i don't know women either i don't know so what do you tell them though what is your um what do i tell them so i i first just explained that ethically non-monogamous is overall generally big generally when two two people in a relationship right equally I don't know.
monogamous is overall generally big generally when two two people in a relationship right equally decide that yes we're gonna have sexual partners outside of each other right you have a primary relationship but you have sex partners outside of that now are you with your partner when you're doing this or are you like okay i met you know i met ac i'm gonna go have a date with them i'll see you later honey type of thing well then it kind of ventures from there it depends right and that's what you were doing right uh yeah okay yeah all right because see me to me i don't know i would want to be there with you all the time it did start that way for a little while uh.
And then we started trusting each other in the process and what we were going to do within our own relationship, et cetera, et cetera. And then we just sort of started relaxing some of the, I don't want to say relaxing boundaries. That's not. Yeah, you were. That's what it is. But I guess that is what it is. Yeah. It is what that is. You were evolving. Yeah, evolving. Like I tell every couple, you're going to evolve, so what you like today might not necessarily like what you like in 10 years.
Right, but we made a fatal flaw that the rules we had in place for each other and ourselves, we thought that they would be static, and that was a mistake. Right. And so once we tried, tried well once i tried adjusting some of those things it fell apart pretty quickly okay yeah which you can listen to all about in the other podcast i want so it's it sucks but you know you live and learn you'll hopefully hopefully you let you learned i learned and now i'm living yeah so and all that but i don't know if i can handle I don't know if I can handle.
I can see where if you're like, you know, you're a new couple and you're not, you don't have any kids yet. But I can see when kids can make it where, okay, we can't get out. We want to have some fun. And, honey, go. I trust a dude. Yeah. Go play with him. Oh, I got a Tinder notification. Let's see what it is. Is she perfectly non-monogamous? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Lisa. Lisa. I don't think she is, though. All right. But anyways. I put it on there on my ass, so if they're swiping right on me, they must be interested. Right. The question is if they actually read it, though.
Well, that's my second response after I say, hey, I'm doing great. Did you read my profile? That's my second one. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. So we're good then. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyways, another topic for another kink in the swinging lifestyle would be exhibitionism. Exhibitionism. Yeah. Having people or you just wanking out your titties or pulling up that skirt and bending over and getting the pound town in front of other people or wherever you want to do it. You know, the first time I – Oh, Jesus. Here we go. This has got to be a good one. I don't know.
I just thought it would be harder to stand in front of more than one person and be naked. Right. And it was really just kind of liberating, if I'm honest. It was great. Loved it. You – every person who does it says the same thing. It's liberating because you know what? Did you see other women doing it? No. No. So, wow. Shit. You were really a balls, balls to the wall gal. All or nothing, babe. Because, because like when I go to a nudist resort and I take, you know, a date or whatever, they're like, well, I don't want to get nude. Okay. It's clothing optional.
So you don't have to by 15 minutes their clothes are off because well because they see everybody they see the the stretch marks they see everybody's got different bodies and they go like shit my body's not as bad shit that i'm gonna take it off right yeah so it's good but you really enjoyed exhibitionism what people how many people watched you that first time uh so i'm thinking back to that first time when it was me the guy who would be my dom and my my then husband um and it was just three of us i think that was the first time i had ever been in a room with anyone beyond my my then husband right uh and of course that's exciting was like, yeah, this person, I feel safe here.
I'm with people who are going to make sure I'm okay. Like this, this is good. I'm just going to start taking some clothes off and see how it goes. And I can always put them back on. I did eventually, but not. But when was the first time you had a group of a lot of people watch you? Probably not until I went to one of the clubs. Okay. And you were butt naked fucking summers? Oh, just getting railed. It was great. No shit. Do you remember the club? It was Colette. Really? Sure was. Wow. On a Saturday night? I think on a Saturday night. Okay. Might have been Friday.
Colette's is horrible on Fridays. That's why I said let's just go there because we don't have to really, we can just make fun of people. And decide whose ideals was it to swing, the wife's or the husband's? Aww. That's fun. I swear, I always want, I wish one of these clubs would let me do a podcast a live podcast from there and we just had some fun with it have you talked to the owners?
no I don't know how to talk because I give an honest I don't think they like me because I give an honest review as a single guy I'm just saying hey you gotta do better because I've been all over the country and I've seen it places places. Like the Green Door in Vegas, oh, fuck no. Oh. I would not take a woman. If our thing was we only want to do couples or we just want a couple single guys, I would never take them because it was like zombies everywhere in that place. It's like every stereotype for a single guy came from the Green Door. It had to be because it was just crazy. It was nuts.
It's a great layout. The club is is a great layout but they just allow every guy to go in i always said if like i said if i own a club tens the max 10 guys are the 10 guys you're done no more 10 guys until quantity yeah because you know what it's a couple's lifestyle it's not for single all singles. And to keep the couples happy, you just limit to the single guys. And I tell couples, and if they complain about it, I go, listen, everyone is available in the lifestyle. It's not strictly for you, you know, and I only have 10. You don't have to worry about 10 of them.
If anyone get out of line, let us know, we'll kick them out. That's plain and simple. I just don't think a lot of couples know how to handle single guys. If a single guy came up to me and said, hey man, your wife is really good looking, can I fuck her? I'd be like, hell, okay. I'll be proud of that because you know what? There are some couples that don't get any action at a club. That's so weird to me. They're not that good looking. No. Yeah, that's the problem. It really, swinging can humble a couple real quick.
Is it weird that I've not considered how humbling the experience of swinging can be? No, because you probably don't think about it like I do. Maybe that's it. You don't live it like I do. I live it my whole life. That's true. I don't live it quite like you. But that's only because I don't have no one. When you have someone, it's totally different. Because, you know, shit gets in the way. Life, family. So the only thing I got is my son, and that's it. Right. He's in school. I see him a couple hours after school, do his homework and all that with him, put him to bed, and that's it.
I'm alone with my thoughts. In your hands. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm a decent-looking guy who can get laid. But like I said, I don't, like, if it was you and me, then, you know, be like, okay, I got you now, so fuck. I like going to movies, sporting events, shit like that. So, that would take more time away from the swinging. Sure. So, all that stuff changes. So, like I said, it'll change when I have a partner or partners or whatever. So, exhibition. I can't remember. I think the first time was when I first went to the club.
Three girls wanted to get gang banged separately, and it was out in the open. And so, so like i said i was very blessed that i can have a cock that stays hard like i could block out everything that's amazing i could block out everything just concentrate on that and that shit stays up so that's why i said as a single guy i tell guys do not drink a lot because if you get whiskey dick and you take a couple into a room and you can't get hired, they're going to talk about you with everybody else. As a couple, did you do that? Talk about other people? No. No, you never did? No, never.
You're nicer than me. Like you never recommended someone to someone? No. I don't know anybody has asked.
I don't know't know but people will ask me do you know any good single guys go oh yeah huh yeah i would ask oh like when i was working at the swinger resort i was like yeah you might that guy's good that guy i don't know you might want to you know just keep your distance from that dude because you know fucking people are weird man they will try to spike your drinks and shit at a swingers resort i'm like what the fuck that seems like a lot of doing see i don't recommend that i don't know if it's just a couple that got too damn hammered they can't remember or it is actual you know hgh and people's drink like, oh, man, I couldn't remember last night.
I don't know how I got here. I think I got drugged. I go, go to the damn clinic and go piss and see if you got drugged. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Well, would it stay in your system that long? Oh, yeah. It'll stay for a couple of days, probably. Well, look, remember The Hangover? Remember the doctor when he was talking about the doctor? They were at the doctor hospital. You don't remember that movie? I have a terrible memory for movie trivia. Sorry. I'm the wrong gal. I know. But in the movie, they said, oh, yeah, you tested positive for the drug. And it was HGH. So all that. They ran a whole panel.
If it's in your blood, it'll stay there for a while. I'll take your word on it. Yeah. Oh, well. Okay. Another type of kink or fetish you might have in the swingers lifestyle remember this is only swinger lifestyle this ain't bdsm i just want to report that voyeurism watching okay did you ever you didn't even bother watching anybody you just jumped balls to the wall right into it. Right. No, but my ex did.
He, um, we had a threesome, uh, with a guy and, um, he, he told me up front, my, my ex did that, you know, Hey, if you, you want to get it started with this other guy, you know, I'll, I'll be happy to just kind of relax on the, on the couch over there and, you know, just watch a little. Okay. How's it, it starts. So you're at the house, right? We'll see a hotel room. So you're at a hotel room. This is your guy your ex-husband knows? No, not knows. Just some dude. So you were looking for a threesome then? We were looking for a threesome. Oh, okay.
Because that's kind of weird how you just have some guy hanging out with you and you just fucking, hey, you know, buddy, you thinking my wife is going to... No. This was very planned. This was not like, it wasn't like we tricked somebody we actually knew from our personal lives. Nothing like that. No. Yeah.
So how do you feel about doing that with someone and you know in your personal life like a buddy of your husband's or whatnot i would not you wouldn't do it i would not recommend it i agree i've not done it i don't really plan to no i tell people no especially with women because you know why because that lady will start coming around more and she might think your husband changes everything yes it does and people don't buy it and they don't believe me and they do it and it changes the whole relationship unless you i say unless it's like some fucking far-off friend you see like once every six months yeah go do it because you ain't gonna worry about you ain't gonna see him for another six months but it's like your best friend or your second second best friend hell no don't ever do it because you're gonna lose that relationship sooner or later and all that yeah you are yeah and as a guy you know i don't trust you know guys would come around start saying hey every time i come over i get this fuck uh ac's wife i'm like no so i always stayed away from that shit uh you know my first time watching was, you know, Daytona Swimming Social Club.
First club I ever went to. A lot of people on a Friday night. People were fucking. Just checking it out. Yeah. Oh, this is something new and something interesting and all that. It's like, fuck, man. Yeah, this is good. Watching. I wish I was partying, but, you know, whatever.
So now some other fetishes what about bisexual exploration have you done that have you explored your inner bisexual i consider myself bi so yes you had a girlfriend right i did have a girlfriend how's dating the girl uh it was wrong place wrong time so i can't really say one one person one experience does not oh so you only dated one girl it was only one yeah not good huh like i said just wrong place wrong time well we're so bad about it come on we're on the dr phil show well when when your, it seems like a bad time to... Well, I think that's a bad time for any time.
It's a bad time for a lot of things. Yeah. The list is endless. But she was more emotionally involved than I was because I was focused on my marriage more than i was her uh so it was it was lopsided and we didn't talk for a while we're we're actually really good friends again now um we are not dating but you know she comes over and it licks the pussy once in a while she does not what no fucking people man she comes over and tells me about her boyfriend no now she's got a boyfriend. Oh, she's bi. She's poly. I don't know. I don't know. How am I supposed to know? That's why we're talking.
I'm trying to keep up. I got to have a fucking light board with all those strings to it. You do. Let's be honest. Buying cannabis shouldn't be complicated, sketchy, or low quality. That's why I want to tell you about mood.com. That's M-O-O-D.com. Mood ships federally legal cannabis straight to your door. Thank you. quality. That's why I want to tell you about mood.com. That's M-O-O-D dot com. Mood ships federally legal cannabis straight to your door. No medical card, no hassle. And here's the kicker. The quality is better than anything you'll find at your local dispensary. Yeah, I said it.
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More power to Polly people, but I don't know how you can find two people you can stand for five minutes, let alone, you know, you know, I could barely stand one person for five minutes. How the fuck am I going to find two people that I could stand for five minutes? You know, I asked her once and she said, and again, not me. This is somebody else's experience, all that jazz. But she explained that she just knew something about herself required more love and attention from multiple people.
But can't you get that from just swinging and like having a primary and say, because i would never want to do swinging can be emotionally detached you don't need feelings to have sex with other people are you sure about that because a lot of them talk about connections connections are not necessarily the same thing as feelings okay are we sure no i'm not sure but that's my opinion you asked me i'm just wondering i just want to make sure all right so bisexuality is the nice little fetish in the lifestyle you know for women now let's repeat if you're a man and you're bisexual uh i would i you know i don't have any i don't give a fuck i don't have any give a fucks.
It's like, oh, I don't want to see that shit. I don't really care if you see it or not. But I'm not going to sit there and hate someone because they're bisexual. I'm going to be their fucking friend. It's all how you treat me. Sure. But like I said, it's hard for me to tell a bisexual couple, yeah, you should come out and say it. Because, you know, like I said, there are a lot of fucking bad people in the lifestyle where they will, let's see, discriminate against you. They will talk a lot of shit behind your back.
Again, this must be my own naivete coming out, but I just find it so hard to believe that in a community that is supposed to be so accepting that it is still so exclusive well I'll give you politics true look at how Democrats talk about they're the peace loving people they respect everybody they love everybody but the minute you don't have the same opinion as this oh you're a fucking racist that's why I got out like i was i was i used to teach in college history or government the best fucking job i ever had no i did not fuck any of the students i don't think that crossed my mind i'm sure it will cross a lot of people but it was a great fucking job man i love talking about i love politics i was a i was a democrat but then i always heard this shit like all these fucking people suck you know i thought wait a minute wait a minute we're supposed to be accepting of everybody who who cares if they have a different opinion they're not horrible people you don't know those fucking people right oh no they're horrible they're all right okay whatever dude all right and i just got tired of that bullshit then i would go to the republican side i'm like all they do is want to build people up.
They were talking about building people up, going to the inner city, building that place up and doing stuff like that, you know, through education and all that. I'm like, never, ever, when I was at a Democrat, because I was seriously thinking about being a politician. I could never. Well, this was in my 20s.
And, you you know you're idealistic during this time you think you can change the fucking world it's like when teachers go in and teach it I'm going to change the world then five years later you find out you're going back to college for something because you realize you ain't changing shit because you ain't changing the system that's right once upon a time ago I thought I was going to take down the Koch brothers in my yeah those guys but you know so I just switched I said fuck it Thank you. I don't like having people who think like me. I love people not thinking like me.
But those people have to be... We've got to have a conversation to be able to have a conversation like this. Sure.
not like when we're going to try to kill each other right that doesn't do any good yeah it doesn't do any good but if you just have a conversation some of my best my best friend we don't see eye to eye a lot of stuff but you know we're best friends like you he tells me to go kick that guy's ass i'm gonna fuck that guy up same thing if if i kill someone he's gonna come help me bury the body you know so it's just one of those things where you know you think swinging like i always said i thought it was always inclusive very inclusive exclusive i'm sorry but it's really just exclusive i mean it's who inclusive they don't like bisexual guys for some reason it's changing though which is good it is changing which is good which i don't like i said i don't mind i don't get freaked out like couples will come hey we're gonna have a threesome my husband's bisexual but you don't have to be all right fine as long as i know i don't give a shit it's those it's beforehand when i when all this shit was going down where you know bisexual men were frown to pound guys will start trying to fucking suck your dick when you're fucking their wife and shit like that right you have one of those stories yeah it's like okay no uh i'm not bisexual i'm bi-friendly dude i'm not bisexual because i always tell you that's why i always say i go i'm just bi-friendly but yeah like i can believe it because you got remember remember, who's in the swinger lifestyle?
Single men. No. Human beings. We're not perfect. You got me. Yeah. We're human beings. We're flawed in many ways. But I just don't, I'm just glad bisexual men are finally getting their due. Because everyone's like, oh, the bisexual. Because couples, oh, I'm bisexual. See, see you're you're the top you're if you're with the if you go by yourself at the club you're the top epsilon you're the top of the total pool because you're a unicorn the bisexual female who's single right all right there's no got there's no dick to interfere with my fantasy of having two girls at once you're're the top.
Then the next level would be couples with the bisexual female would be there. Would be right below you. Then everyone else is below that. Now, I want to get a couple who, because I hear couples that are straight, both the male and female are straight.
They're strictly dickly for the female they say they had some hard times with couples to meet and fuck because they're not in the bisexuality wow yeah i'm like what the fuck who cares just swap you don't have to fucking eat everybody out so i don't know but it's kind of weird but like i said you you would you would think you're you're right you would think it'd be more inclusive you know every and more exclusive everyone's welcome but right now it's not and i don't know i don't i can't say if it's going to be but it's getting better for people because i don't like people being excluded from this shit like i said i haven't seen gay couples i've seen gay couples at these places, at the resorts now, which is good.
That's fun. Yeah. Only thing I hate about the gay, the lesbians, was your girlfriend a butch or was she a princess? What was it? A lipstick lesbian. Neither? Neither? Is neither an option? I don't know. Fuck, I don't know. I always heard butch and lipstick. Neither. Neither? She looked good? Yeah. How good was she? I mean... Shade pussy? She did. Well. Asshole? You lick her asshole? No, I did not. You don't lick asshole, do you? Only on the breath one. I will... No. Occasionally I do. Really? Mm-hmm. I think it's fun.
So how do you so so how do you decide how do you decide uh depends on the last time they showered so they have to come right out of the shower which you know what you can never go wrong on that one right there though what the shower yeah because you ain't gonna be tasting tasting no ass. You're going to be tasting, you're going to be, because I eat ass, and I'm a trooper. Oh, God bless. Oh, my God. That's awful. I, shit. Yes. You'd be like, oh. No. I'm not surprised I don't get pink eye more often. Oh, no, Don't say that. Well, you know, shit, man. Do you eat out?
If you ever eat out, you're probably eating shit sometimes. So we all ate shit before. I don't know. If a girl's got shit on her pussy, there's a bigger problem. I'm not talking about shit shit. It smells like shit. Oh, I haven't experienced that problem. Because you eat ass when it comes out of the shower, girl. Not always. Not literally. I want to see you do it when you've been dancing, sweating your ass off. Would you do it then? Like in the heat of the moment? Probably not. I would be too busy getting railed. Oh, Jesus Christ. I know. So selfish. Yes, sometimes. I don't think anyone...
I think one girl ate my ass out. That was it. One girl stuck her finger up my ass and made me fucking blow her back out with the fucking jizz shot oh my god holy shit she was a nurse so she fucking she knew where to go that's impressive damn yeah she knew that she knew the prostate because the prostate's right in your ass yeah yeah well good for her yeah so another kink fetish would be group sex. Group sex. Orgies. Orgies. So let's talk a little about group sex and orgies. Mm-hmm. You have never had an orgy. I have not ever had an orgy. You swapped partners, right? I have.
You had a foursome, right? I have. But nothing more than a foursome. Nothing more than a foursome. Fuck. that's amazing that's pretty good that's pretty good though because you know it is pretty i mean i'm pretty proud of myself yeah how does an orgy sound to you sounds like a lot of work yeah i. Taking off your clothes is a lot of work. Listen, all you got to do is lay there. It's probably a lot of fun. What would be fun? What do you see fun as? Oh, just like people being naked, enjoying themselves. Sweating. Sounds wonderful. Okay, let's see.
This is getting bad because now I'm starting to lose memories of the shit I'd done when I was younger. So I moved to Buffalo, New York. Work closed down. They said, oh, we got a job in Buffalo. I said, fuck, I'll take it. Buffalo, which ended up being a really good move because Buffalo was very cheap. Anything with your kid or something? Yeah, maybe. Uh-oh. Always ruins. Kids ruin everything. Oh, it's all good. All right. So they moved me out to Buffalo. My work did.
And I found a couple that host these parties for women exclusively that want the single guys the more the merrier you can say and those parties were always orgies they would turn into orgies really? because they would get a lot of couples and they would tell like I liked about them they didn't fucking lie to the couples some people would lie oh this is what it's all about they would tell this is for guys this is for couples that want more guys We'll see you next time.
they would tell like i liked about them they didn't fucking lie to the couples like some people like oh this is this is what it's all about they would tell this is for guys this is for couples that want more guys do not come if you were looking for other couples because they didn't like the couple couple swapping they wouldn't allow that shit to happen they would kick you out oh wow yeah they would say no this is for guys this is for couples that like guys and they would always have a good group of women couples coming in either once to just check it out your neck hurt yeah oh you gotta get us a massage why don't you go get a massage i'm too broke for that that's why i'm looking for a new job that's why you go to tinder and get a guy that gave you one i'm doing it wrong to take you to take you to go get one i always go you gotta you gotta when you you gotta text me hey what are you doing Let's get one.
I always go. You got to text me, hey, what are you doing? Because I always go every week to go get a massage because the fucking work has stressed me the fuck out. I know. I don't want to fucking kill myself sometimes because of this shit. I usually just use a foam roller and call it good. No. You got to have someone do it. But I hate going to Thai people because they want to stand in your fucking back. Oh, no. I have a slip disc. No. Yeah. I'm like, don't. I don't want you to stand on me. And it's hard to find a really good one, too, that's legit. That's another problem.
You don't go to, like, Massage Envy or one of those places? They don't massage your ass, though. Really? They don't really get your ass that well. Oh.
I don't go to like massage envy or one of those places they don't massage your ass though they don't really get your ass that well oh i don't if i ask they'll like use their elbow or something i don't want their elbow i want them to get then get in there get my glutes and shit yeah i know i want i don't have that problem i do because my hips uh yeah that's why i'm worried about fucking because my hips yeah because i don't because I you know you start spreading your hips out so I might have to get new hips yeah that's pretty serious yeah yeah well you know playing baseball squatting as a catcher for past 30 years shit that'll do it that's gonna hurt yeah but anyways we're back to uh orgies and shit orgies and shit so yeah like that that couple would tell them and those couples you knew when they're there she's looking for mini dicks so you're like good and like every party would turn out to be orgy the one negative thing about it would be that the fact that they would uh go bareback oh yeah and i was like oh boy i always had they offered condoms but most of the women would always go bareback and i was like at this time i'm in my 20s late mid 20s late 20s i'm like i don't know about this because oh it's not like the drugs we have today.
Like the, you got the HIV prevention drugs and the doxy, droxy and all that, which I all got. So, you know, I take that HIV medicine every day and all that. And I got droxy. If I go bareback on someone, I just take it and comedia and all that shit goes away. So, but this is not that time.
This mid 2000s so yeah it would turn out the big fucking orgy and all that and a lot of them weren't going bareback and shit so it kind of downplayed it but fuck it i just slapped on a condom i didn't get fuck it did you have a good time i had a great time okay i always had a great time and I don't know what happened. I stopped going there for some reason. I just never lost contact with them. So I don't know. I think it was because it was mostly a lot of times it would be the same women. And it just gets boring because you had to drive to Ohio which is an hour and a half, two hour drive.
So I was like, eh, it's going to be the same pussy. Nothing new. And all that. What? It's true. I hear that. I mean, you want to up you don't want you do yeah you don't want to i don't want to see the same fucking people day in and day out i don't know maybe you do maybe you do i don't know if i had a regular group of people who we we decided you know we're all gonna have an orgy every so often i don't know it might be kind of. It might be kind of fun. That would be, well, that would be a lot easier as a couple. It would be a lot easier as a couple, sure. But I'm not a couple.
I would think that there's an element of security as a single as well. For, I guess, for a single guy, for some single, see me, I don't need that security, though. Right. No, neither do I.
But I do think it would be a fun social thing to do anyway oh yeah but like i said it's easier for seeing a couple than a single guy it's always easier for a couple yeah because i got to get my foot in there and i got to stay stay make everyone happy if one of the couples don't like me adios amigo gone right so you know it's like i said it's very difficult and all that but you know it was a great time but that was probably my very first orgies that i was ever in and you know honestly i'm not into i haven't done a lot of fucking orgies you yawning is really i'm so sorry yeah putting a damper on it no it's not putting a damper on it Let's be honest.
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