Behind the Scenes of Bliss Cruise with Cruise Director Malcolm | Bonus Episode

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Speaker1: This podcast is intended for adult audiences. Over the age of 18, it contains adult language and situations. The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to us, and not of any employer, organization, committee, or other group or individuals. This podcast is not intended to be taken as professional advice. Welcome to the Swing Nation podcast, a podcast by swingers for swingers, where we look to educate others and push back on the negative stigmas and misconceptions associated with our lifestyle. Come with us and share our pineapple journey as we travel the globe. Interview the experts, learn and grow together. Join the nation. hi i'm lacyacey with the Sway Nation podcast, and we're here on board Bliss Cruise. And I am here with Malcolm. Hello. He is the cruise director on every Bliss Cruise I've ever been on. So I don't, have you been all of them? All of them since our first one in November 15th. Wow. So can you tell us a little bit about yourself and like how in the heck you got into this role um i used to let's see back in the day i worked at club meds if you're familiar with those and then i used to work as the cruise director for atlantis events which is like bliss but it's for it's a gay cruise charter company and i did that for 25 years um and And then, I think when I was there in like 18 years, whatever, Bliss was forming and their first cruise was actually i think on the silhouette here um celebrity silhouette and celebrity told them you you need your own cruise director as opposed to the regular ship cruise director because uh the ship cruise director you know was like good evening ladies and gentlemen they're a little vanilla but they're a little vanilla but also they're restricted by corporate rules and i can say fuck shit damn got the whole nine yards like how y'all doing who got laid today yeah so it was much easier like that so um but i would say at initially they were a little concerned with me because i was coming from a gay cruise they were like you know is um it's the lifestyle is similar but different yeah and it was like i'm not here with agenda i'm just here to make sure you guys have a great time and so it was nice so i think after a while it was sort of like just have a good time and enjoy yourself and so no i love it it's great because i mean i did i will say the first cruise i was on i didn't understand all the meet and greets and someone's like um they're here why do you think they're on this cruise versus vanilla cruise oh yeah it's how to how to meet and say hi to everybody and stuff like that yeah it kind of forces people to talk yeah exactly and then like you know the difference between uh swinger cruise gate cruise star trek charter baptist cruise versus a regular cruise is on a regular cruise you come to have your vacation amongst all these other people and on a charter just like on bliss you come to have your vacation with everybody else so that's what you want to be here for yeah so and um i'm originally from maryland outside washington dc and live in fort lauderdale florida i have five older brothers who are all really annoyed that i'm the one working on the swingers cruise that's hilarious so do you do anything else or is this your just it's your gig uh my other job so we do three cruises a year my other job i work for a company called backroads it's a number one active travel company okay we do hiking and biking trips all around the world support you doing this oh yeah no they're totally different companies so those are groups of like 20 people 23 people and we do i do hiking trips in the cotswolds in england and bavaria and palm springs and austria and germany all over the world do they find like i could imagine like being on one of those trips like do you know that he oh no that's the cruises well i could imagine it would be a topic well when i used to do the gay cruises too and do both jobs it was the running joke was like oh gay cruises i'm sure those are fun tell us about the swing yeah for sure so it even still it is usually i wait for the conversation it's usually like probably it's a six five night six day trip on the hiking and biking trips and usually by night four what else you do well um i'm gonna i work as a cruise director for a swinger cruise company they're like what i'm like everyone raise your hand yeah you will not write a letter to the office that malcolm had inappropriate conversations at dinner and they're like what do you think people are very interested i there were three couples who are from my background strips who have come on bliss cruises because they were like wait what yeah and they went home and said and i they've come like malcolm you remember us i'm like yeah that's awesome yeah yeah that's really cool i love that thank you so if someone someone was to ask you what exactly a bliss cruise is what would would be your definition? A bliss cruise is for people who are in the lifestyle, swingers. Like I was saying earlier about the lifestyle, I learned it's just not about the sex. It's also about acceptance. And I would say when you go to the pool deck and everyone's naked, every body type is there. and everyone says hi to everyone. I always like to use an example of, I did a pool game once where you had to, the men were blindfolded and the women were naked, and you had to feel the wife's breasts to get to which one was the wife. And there was a lady up there with a double mastectomy. And I was just like, good for her. Yeah. I have a cold, sir. I'm not going outside. Yeah. I mean, granted, she won the game. As she mean granted she won the game flat out you know flat out but it was just the acceptance and her feeling so comfortable and i see you know people wearing outfits at night that like in any other world you're like nope but here you can wear and do anything it's great the other day at the pool a guy had on a pink cage yeah on his um yeah and he was a little bit overweight but i was like you know what good for him yeah no i'm so happy that he feels so comfortable out here in his pink cage i don't know what the correct word for that is but you can use your imagination yeah but i was so proud i mean like it's not my thing but like good for him that he can be out here with all these people and feel confident that's it i mean every body type is out there and everyone says hi to each other. And I would say, if I can say this in the right way, that it's not all like these stunning models and beautiful people. It's your average show and regular people and regular fun. But everyone, they're all hanging and getting together. And so it's a friendly, very welcoming thing. Also, about a third of our guests are not swingers they want to come on a clothing optional adult cruise and some of them become swingers afterwards because it's kind of like you don't have to and it's a you don't have to do anything you don't want to do and a lot of first timers too like we do a lot of on day one and day two we do a lot of seminars and uh uh question answer meetings for first timers to tell them like hey guys just Just someone goes hey how are you it doesn't mean they won't have sex yeah and you don't have to freak out because they're all really friendly because hey they're not used to people in the elevator of a regular cruise going hey how you doing nice to meet you you're going down you know someone says hi doesn't mean they want to do your wife yeah and even if they do say they want to do your wife you can politely say no thank you and that's fine as well and that's also just reminding especially first-timers that like there's a whole it's a big thing about consent in the lifestyle world like you know just it's not like bang boom it's like no no it's different take you know whatever you want no one's gonna make you do anything you don't want to do so i really love it and for me everyone's i always say it's everyone's really welcoming and happy-go-lucky and having a good time with it yeah i guess another question i have is just from somebody on the inside i guess the staff every staff member i've ever talked to seems very happy oh yeah here is that your same experience yeah yeah because it's a fun job and you're working with people who are happy to be here yeah i mean like even the cruise line staff like the on the on this ship on celebrity the cruise science staff loves having us on board because people come on board happy on a regular cruise the line is like 40 people just automatically people coming in to complain about stuff so so generally everyone is very happy to give the staff the bliss staff that comes on board a um they also get to interact with the guests and they have to have fun and also i mean the name badge also sometimes a little power so it's even more of a hi how you're doing what do you need and stuff like that and no one really has major requests that are going to be taken care of so and it's nice to be able to take care of and for coming on a vacation where you don't have to worry about where are you going what are you doing what are you eating and everything's taken care of getting carefully yeah every experience i've ever had they've always seemed so welcoming yeah i tell the story of the last list we did the fetish dinner and we were one of the last ones to leave and i looked over and the the waiters were hitting each other with the floggers and i ended up talking to them and they before the the dinner they had they had got flogged by alice and so um they had the videos and they were so excited to just show me what they got to do yeah and if you've seen the uh in the gift shop we bring in a trunk show a whole bunch of like fetish gear and outfits and so forth and um the last day they have an hour where they um before they open that the um crew can come up and buy stuff where they they take a bunch of it downstairs and have a crew sale and all the vibrators and everything are sold out it's like they don't get that down there i mean down in their cabins all the time going well we had a waiter a waitress last time and she was away from her husband six months of the year and she was like this seems so wonderful you know she was definitely interested because she spent so much time yeah away from her husband so i hope she got it vibrated yeah yeah and also like you know like in the lifestyle too i always say it's all about communication and it is it is rules each couple has different rules and sticking to the rules and that's when you don't if you if everyone sticks to the rules and have open communication you don't have any problems yeah and you've also know how to separate love and sex the two different things in the stringer world having sex is like having a cocktail in the straight world i mean in the vanilla world basically yeah um but yeah so that's just the big thing and in one sense it's i want to say it's a bit of a more of a maturity level because you know how to separate the two and like you know a random blow job in the bathroom stall is a random blow job in the bathroom stall it doesn't mean anything to our relationship correct you know correct i totally agree with that yep okay can you give me we're gonna do do's and don'ts okay let's start with do's okay if somebody has never been on a bliss cruise and they're watching this and they're ready to book what what are a few key points that you can tell them you you need to do this you need to be prepared with all these things before you do say hi to everybody just because you're saying uh hi doesn't mean they want to you want to have sex with everybody everyone is really friendly and open because the lifestyle is just not about sex it's about openness and friendliness and accepting everyone so do say hi to everyone do go to all the meet and greets do um mike andly are on board uh two of our hosts they play a lot of fun party games do go to those because it's a great way to meet other people do go to us some of the seminars we have there are great ways to have like for example like uh dr ball does uh live interpersonal like ways different types of sexual positions and stuff and any issues and stuff that she's there like you have a therapist in the middle with like 10 couples how to do things and reaching different orgasms and so forth like that so those are things you're not going to get in a regular world that cost a lot more money if you're trying to find your own personal someone do that so a lot of things you would that are here available for you um do go out and try all the different restaurants do when you when you go to dinner at night they always ask you want to join another table say yes for sure can you do table you meet other couples of uh tables are like six eight and twelve and stuff like that oh say hi to everyone you never know who's going to be your best friend not just a sexual partner for like a couple nights but a new friend yeah um that's what i tell people a lot i think that they when they're thinking about the lesson they think about the sex yeah and the trick is like we went to the um speed dating here a few years ago and we met several couples none of which we really wanted to have sex with but we met familiar faces and it's been years and we walk into a meet and greet and there's no one there we know but we recognize that that friendly face and it's just nice to be like hey good to see you again so it's nice to have a welcoming face even though you may not want to sleep with them it's just having that person there so doing the dinners doing the ingredients and speed dating all those things are what kind of help you exactly and we did like um last night we i've done a couple times out as a bisexual couples um dinner yeah so it's bisexual female bisexual male yeah which in in the swing world it's still a bit of a like it's not very a lot of the bisexual guys are not as you know because they still feel the stigma of it so it's getting a little like more accepted so what we do on this dinner is like it's a set menu and after the first course all the women get up and switch seats and go to the table after the next course all the men get up switch seats go to the table and then after the third course everyone gets up Thank you. And after the first course, all the women get up and switch seats and go to another table. After the next course, all the men get up and switch seats and go to another table. And then after the third course, everyone gets up and all the women go to tables and all the men go to tables. And last night they were so happy because they actually got to talk to people. And like you said, they may not have sex with them, but they've met new friends who all have the same vision. It feels so nice when you walk in and you don't think you're going to know anybody and you recognize yeah it makes you do bring costumes for the part for the shows and stuff for the events they're great do uh do pool games just do it do everything and have be fun with it sometimes if you don't want to participate go watch it yeah you'd be talking to the person next to you about what's going on at the pool yeah no i totally agree talk to you, great. Okay, so don't. Don't do anything without someone's permission. That's a big thing. We always like to talk about consent. So never do anything without someone's permission. Don't be afraid. Don't, this is going back to a do, don't be afraid to say hi. Don't be afraid to try something new. Don't be afraid, if you've never been to a playroom, don't be afraid to go into it and just kind of wander around and see it for me it's like when i would go to a new town and i would go to a new bar and i kind of be nervous i would kind of go one night and just kind of see where everything was so when i went a second time i was like okay i got to heal yeah so things like that so you don't have to jump in so don't don't do too much too soon if it's a new thing for you. And you can take breaks. We met a guy last night who was very overwhelmed. And if it's too much at the pool, go sit on your balcony for an hour and kind of regroup and then try again. There's a lot of people, and especially if you've never done anything in the life, so it can be overwhelming. And I think that's okay. Yeah, because that's the whole thing of, like, you think coming in, like, oh, so if I'm on this trip, I've got on this trip i gotta do sex with below like no so don't do anything you don't want to do everyone has so many there's you know that whole so many different fetishes and desires and needs in this world some people just want to sit and watch some people just want to hang out on the side you know and stuff like that so um yeah so yeah don't don't feel you're the only person here because everyone is if you're having issues or feeling uh weird or it's not quite gelling right away there's someone else is the same thing so definitely get those meet and greets and all those activities and stuff like that you'll meet other people yeah and if one of you is more introverted for example i'm definitely more the introvert my husband is the one that kind of starts the conversation and then i can jump in so you play to each other's strings if you're a couple you know if he's more outgoing or vice versa you know it takes you have to read especially if you've married 20 years and you haven't dated anybody it takes a while to kind of relearn these you know so rely on each other and your strength drinks yes um and you'll get through it it'll be be okay and don't come on board if it's your first time unless you've had the conversation and that is you both are on the same page because you never want to be where like oh yeah we just thought we'd try this out would you talk about what you're going to do what's you know it's just kissing aloud it's just flirting around can we play are we only playing together how far along are we playing we're doing full swap self swap so don't come here and not have whatever what's our game plan so going back to communication rules between the couple and what's going on yeah and i suggest you don't change them in the middle no we got a lot of cruises we have three cruises so don't change in the middle you know stick with it go back have conversations talk about how you feel and you're not the only couple that has gone through this journey so a lot of people have had that journey of like going from like extremely vanilla to multi-flavored and you can tell people that you don't have to you don't have to be embarrassed you don't you can say this is the first time we're real nervous like we met a couple the other night we took them to the playroom for the first time we we had our clothes on nobody was having sex or i mean other people not us but we walked them through it and stopped i mean yeah exactly they'd been married for 25 years she had never seen anybody else even have sex so you just find you just talk to people and you'll find somebody that's willing to kind of help you along or find another couple that is also new and you can kind of figure it out together that's why baby that's that's why they don't don't assume you're the only one having these feelings don't assume you're the only people couple that's having this experience everyone else has been there yes so exactly they found you and you made it easier for them to enjoy it yeah okay michael thank you thank you we've been trying to do this for a while we keep missing other. So thank you. If someone is watching this and they're interested in a cruise, what do they do? Well, we go to uniblisscruise.com. It has all of our cruises. We do three cruises a year. We have a great website. There's all the information in there. And you can always call the office if you have any questions about anything. We have a lot of people who will happily talk to you through everything. Don't be afraid to to ask questions don't be afraid to ask stupid questions because that's makes you more comfortable being here yeah so a lot of information there we also on our on our website has great you can see what's happening and you get an idea of all the shows we do all the um the theme parties and the activities and stuff like that and also some of our seminars that we do so it's a great way to get it it's just not uh going to um you know a playroom it's a whole full lifestyle experience for you so definitely definitely come join us i mean you'll love it for sure thank you okay well thank you all right thank you guys thank you very much come back and come see us on the bliss cruise okay bye if you've enjoyed our podcast and want to support us we have a fivestar review wherever you're listening if you want to see more of our content you can find links to snapchat twitter instagram only fans and more in the show notes come join the conversation with us and other swinger content creators on our swinger society discord server if you have questions or, email them to us at theswingnation at gmail.com. 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