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It is and y'all have been so gracious to help! Really enjoying the forums and learning from the seasoned veterans. :)

Yay! The point of the whole exercise was to increase your opportunities. I'm so glad it's working!

I just wanted to update y'all that, since I have made the recommended revisions to my profile, we have been seeing a lot of the little birdies. Thank you for helping a newcomer out!

Melissa :)

Maybe I'm just particularly sensitive to hunting as a topic because I lived in the country for most of my life and there was a LOT of friction between the rural part of the county which made up MOST of the land area but got very little of the services and the towns which had MOST of the population. Lost of the people in the towns were opposed to hunting, but they often ventured into the countryside where hunting was quite popular. The towns were often sliced up into pieces with the surrounding country and that meant that the countryside had significant representation in the county government while the town often felt that it didn't. It was the classic rural vs urban divide that has been going on in America since... well, the Founders.

Hunting was a huge necessity for farmers to control the deer population, it was a necessity on rural roads to keep deer accidents down, it was something that had a hundreds of year history, and was a popular past time that grandfathers and fathers had done with sons... even the townies complained of deer eating their ornamental plantings but didn't realize it was because they had built their towns on the deer's habitat. The townie's didn't think of it that way! They thought of it as the deer being on their land! Not as if they were on the deer's land!

But it was often a HOT topic with letters being sent to the local newspaper editor and printed every season from people against hunting... and then letters back from farmers and hunters, educating them why hunting was a good thing. Things could get heated.

Anyway, maybe I'm just sensitive to it because of the differences between rural communities and cities.

GGMM-it's a date! ;)

1lkydog-again? Dang, I must have missed the first meet! :(

Maybe we could all meet halfway...again

Melissa, for coffee with you, I'd make the drive to Seattle. ;-)

I think hunting is fine. I’ve never hunted anything, but I eat meat that was killed by someone else. So I have no right to criticize people who cut out the middleman.

It’s a hobby that you can hook people with - especially in Texas. So I’d keep it.

I’m just

I think hunting is fine. I’ve never hunted anything, but I eat meat that was killed by someone else. So I have no right to criticize people who cut out the middleman.

It’s a hobby that you can hook people with - especially in Texas. So I’d keep it.

GGMM-thank you for the encouraging words. Rob and I actually met in Seattle and my daughter just started school at UW. Maybe we can meet over coffee if I make it way.

I love your profile photo. The two of you look adorable.

This is totally a lot of work. The process kind of condenses a learning curve into a few paragraphs and that's not easy. I think your profile is great now. It fairly represents you, makes the two of you sound like warm, fun people, and has a quiet, sexy simmer to it. Terrific job.

About hunting, I know I'm only one data point, but I grew up in a city and have a distinct aversion to guns, and it never bothers me that people hunt. In other words, I don't think it's a particularly controversial thing that some of us do the hard work of finding our food somewhere other than the grocery store.

Privateice-Ok, I took your advice and took out the camo pic! I did add a paragraph talking about our interest and I don't know if you'll approve or not because Rob is a hunter and I mentioned it.

This is a lot of work but I hope that it will be productive! Again, I thank y'all for your help.

Melissa

Okay, so it's a nice profile. You seem like nice people.

A missing piece:

Something to TALK about on your first meet&greet. Tell us what you are interested in besides sex. What do you like to do other than getting naked? Consider: you don't talk about sex in the first 5 minutes. You don't talk about nudism. You talk about that last movie you saw, the Sting concert you went to, the beach, shag dancing because you all enjoy it

Our resident guru Velma called these "hooks." It's a good word for them, because you catch prospective partners on them like fish. Hooks are topics that people read in your profile and think, "Gee, I have that in common with this couple, yeah, I guess we could talk about that on our first date. I'll write to them!" Write about what you do, what you like, who you are. Not just about sex.

Do delete that camo photo:
Do yourself a favor. You don't want anything polarizing on your profile: no religion, no politics, no guns, no camo. Unless you are prepared not only to turn off everyone who is averse to those things, but also everyone who sensitive to that fact that those things are polarizing and aware that you don't care about polarizing topics. Hunting is polarizing. Yes, it's ignorant that it's polarizing, but it's polarizing.

If you do hunt/own guns/display them in your house--and many rural people do (I'm rural, currently living in the city):
Once you meet someone, you can talk to them about how hunting is an important function in rural areas to thin ruminants which have no natural predators. That they would overpopulate, damage crops, or starve in winter. Many city people don't really understand the realities about ruminants in rural areas. When they have a real conversation, they can see reason.

But you can't turn on people, who are turned off and never write to you in the first place because they see a camo photo and make assumptions about who you are because of it, based on their own bias.

My best suggestion is to never duplicate a picture and never show more than 10.

I think picture number 12 with the malel half in the blue polo and the female have in the Gingham shirt looks amazing. That picture should be first and deafault. That picture would make us want to be with you.

I would kill picture 2 - where the female half is up close and smiling. I know what she’s trying to do with that face but it’s not working-you already have a pretty picture of her face on the swing.

Kill the butt/tequila shot. Again, I know what you are trying to do, but the hot tub picture bent over is more effective.

I would kill picture seven - that quasi Greek pose. If it was shot from above or below-maybe and again I know what you’re trying to do, but it’s not working in that picture.

I’m up in the air about the picture of you two in hunter camo. It’s a sweet picture But the first thing I think of when I see camo is guns. Full disclaimer - my husband owns a gun and I know how to shoot it. I have no problem with guns although I’m not a super big fan. I think in today’s political climate, you don’t want any picture that could associate you with a political position.

I would take that picture out Because you’re risking someone not contacting you because they will make assumptions about who you are based on your clothes.

I think I have made my final revision but am definitely open to any suggestions if there are still some changes that need to be made. Thank you all for your help!

Melissa

1lkydog-thank you again for the advice on my profile. I believe in remaining teachable until I take my last breath because there is always something to learn. Life is definitely more exciting that way!

And I love your humor! That and flattery will get you everything! :)

Nice work from your third shift typist. IMO there's improvements, clarity, more wow, and awesome smiles up front - bravo - I love quick learners. And as a nudist, my eyes see you dressed and now my mind wants to see some flesh; nice tease. I'll ask Mrs Luckydog if we can move 1100 miles closer.

If you're still interested in opinions - yes I still have mine. Your girl's smile sells real estate and the pic of her in her grey and orange stripped v-neck is sizzling.

I see "cooking" x 2, "hanging out" x 2, and "listen(ing) to music" x 2 across your your profile and I'd mix it up somehow...maybe using your own words, like <You will always find us laughing and having a good time whether we're staying home or going out for a night on the town. We tend to have fun no matter what we are doing. If you are our guest, then you will be spoiled and you will listen to music, enjoy home cooked meals, and laugh. >

Contrary to not liking double, I am a fan of your double reference to making folks feel at home "We never meet a stranger!" and "If you are our guest, then you will be spoiled!" and I'd spread it out so it's not in close proximity.

Returning to the "distance between us" and "meeting you halfway" thing. You did add clarity about driving towards one another, however the expectations in your two sentences give me a turn off: "If there is a great distance between us...Most Likely we will not play...but you never know what might happen" From my earlier instance, if Mrs Luckdog and I drove 590 miles to meet your happy smile faces and lovable bodies, we'd wanna know we would play! Maybe set your driving limits, like, <frequent meets and couples within 100 miles are a plus> or <no great distances between, we love great meals, frequent play and FWB's.>

My other point is life's a live sport about laughing at what's funny when it happens, kissing back when kissed, and moving forward when the energy's right. I fully understand cautionary tentativeness but expectations are the silent killers of relationships <We stay in the moment and remain flexible to the possibilities on a first meet> Leaving your mind open and fresh to the moment is a powerful tool. It's the tingles you get from walking on the edge, the pumping adrenaline excitement of whispering yes or no to any question, and the awareness of being completely in control on the here and now.

We live on a clothing optional resort all summer and there's always an open invitation to come see us there, unless we move 1100 miles closer to you :-) I hope this helps

1lkydog-Thank you for your suggestions! You've definitely given me a lot to think about. I'm always reading my profile and trying to make improvements where I see fit and I appreciate you taking the time to help me with it! :)

Hey nice couple with great smiles. If you’ve already made some changes, I should be seeing all the great suggestions I’ve read so far - so I’ll jump-in about my pet peeves.

I HATE ALL CAPS for anything except legitimate, understandable, commonly used abbreviations (FWB, MFM, FFM,) and “SINGLE MEN," "PLEASE DO NOT…" and "THANK YOU!” jumped off your profile as an immediate let down. I mean your pics are great and you’re using ALL CAPS - please show me your intellectual kindness instead.

I’m not a fan of hollow clichés either. "We are a committed couple with a dynamic sex life and love for life.” I’d leave it all off unless you’re trying to say <he swims the English Channel to do lunch with me, drops from the bedroom chandelier when I shout “let’er rip” and we plant wild flowers in the alpine valleys of Yosemite National Park every spring> - otherwise, let’s hear what makes your relationship so committed. Dish out some specifics of your great sex life; like we imagine from your attractive pics. I mean, I see smiles and bodies that say love love love and I’m not finding any descriptive words to accompany them.

Ambiguity makes me crazy too when it’s not cleverly thought out "We prefer meeting halfway on the first meet…” for me and Mrs Luckydog that's 590 miles to be 1/2 the way to Mineola and we two nudists would be pleased to me you. Or does that mean <show me yours' if I show you mine?> Correct me if I’m wrong, what you’re conveying is you’re accommodating, flexible, responsive to the circumstances, adaptive, able to change, and you’re capable of bending forward to kiss when someone’s leaning towards you. If that's right, say something concrete like <touch mine, I’ll touch yours, show me yours and I’ll take my clothes off> I made this up, so use something that’s genuinely true about you.

Your line in Additional Comments “Most likely…but there have been exceptions” says to me that medication levels were right when there have been exceptions. Again, I think you want to convey you’re flexible, responsive to the circumstances, and cautiously optimistic for play at some point. There are also treasures you'll discover with an open mind, no expectations, and the gift of moment - that 's why it's "the present.” Stay in the present and make your decisions when the time is right - not now.

Looking over your pics I wished we were 1151 miles closer - however I’m not a fan of looking at your beautiful tata’s first…sure from a nudist point of view they’re yummy, young and full of life…but I’m looking for the prize inside and those sweet smiles on your faces make me wanna meet you face to face. Your happy, broad, inviting smiles are your hook and they make me wanna see those tata’s next, not first.

VandS make great suggestions and they're always on point. My Mrs LuckyDog's a horse ridin, barrel roping champion cowgirl that likes her cowboys face-on, in collared shirts, with the tails out, fit a little loose here and tight there, like they just jumped off their horse and they're a come'in to ride her next...your guy pics are great now show one of him dressed up; like in a tuxedo...boom!!!

If you’re ever 1000 miles closer to Pennsylvania let us know - we’ll meet you half way. Hope this helps you find other sexy smiling nudists for your "good times in and out of the bedroom."

Thank you for the suggestions! Rest assured that those pants are put away in a storage bin. He doesn't like to get rid of clothes! He actually has a couple pair of slip on loafers that I will try to encourage him to wear more! :)

Go to Kohl’s or Men’s Warehouse.

Have your husband buy a pair of Lee Active Fit jeans in a darker denim. Then I want him to buy a slip-on canvas loafer. Then I want him t buy a few shirts from Men’s Warehouse. Make sure he gets measured and the shirts FIT.

When wears the shirt, make sure it is untucked with the sleeves rolled once.

He’ll look great in that.

Please through our those pleated Khakis.

GGMM-thank you for taking the time to review and reply regarding my profile. I incorporated some of the changes you suggested. I knew you weren't fond of the clean reference from other posts you have made so I was expecting that one. :)

VAS-thank you as well for taking the time to review and reply regarding my profile. You actually made me lol about the stump pic! My husband, bless his heart, doesn't have a lot of fashion sense. Actually, I don't really either! I'm more comfortable out of my clothes than in them!

About the only suggestions is to kill the wet t-shirt picture and kill the picture with him standing on the stump.

Normally I really like pictures of the couple together. You look happy and in love.

But to put it delicately - the male half’s outfit is somewhat dated. Pleated Khakis and a blue shirt kind of makes him look like a dad from 1994.

Maybe try a pair of athletic fit jeans and an untucked shirt with the sleeves rolled up? It would be a little more stylish.

I'm sorry, but I've misplaced my bag of sarcasm. Maybe Friday? In the meantime, I generally like your profile, although I think you could do a better job in Description and could lose your body parts photos entirely, along with trimming a few of her in favor of another one or two of the two of you together.

In Description, let your photos do the job of describing your physical aspects. They're a much better avenue and then you're not wedded to the awkward "him by her" presentation. Also, while it's great to talk about what you like to do, touting your sexual skills is a bit of a solecism. Collect certs and let them do that particular bit of advertising. It really is a much better way to approach the issue. Instead, use the space to talk more about yourselves as a couple. What you like to do, what interests you have, what you bring to the table, things that will interest other folks. I know it seems counter intuitive on a swinger site to not focus on sexual things, but I can get laid pretty much at will and so can everyone else. What interests me is if we'll have enough of a connection to make the sex worth shaving my legs and putting on eye makeup.

Oh, and in that vein, most swingers are bare or trimmed. As in, the last time I saw anything that looked like a full bush was in 2003. So, knowing your preferences are almost always likely to be met, is specifying them useful enough to make it look like you're mistaking looking for playmates for ordering from Amazon?

Other than that, "clean" is a word I don't like to see in profiles. The implication is that unless you specify otherwise, dirty people will show up. So, I always wonder when I see that whether there is an unconscious assumption that swingers are physically dirty as a group.

I hope other people chime in (maybe one of them has my sarcasm bag?), but whatever happens, I hope you expand your profile a little more.

Good luck!

Hi there! I would love your advice regarding my profile to see if there's anything that needs changing on it. Your help is greatly appreciated! And yes, I can handle the constructive criticism and even sarcasm. :)