Seduction, all I want is for you to stop lying about what you wrote and who to.
You keep on lying about it at the same time you keep bringing it up!
It's funny, sad, and pathetic at the same time. I do think it is a mean spirited thing to write.
It is so interesting that Seduction denies flinging the term "lifeless worm" toward me. Here is the whole paragraph of its use:
"And you are right, I am absolutely insensitive to people like you and men with ED, I don't swing to nurture and baby the spouses who can't get it up, I'm not here to bring my husband who can get it up to entertain women who's hubby can't. There are meds for that, and if you refuse to take them then find someone else to give physical therapy to your lifeless worm"
The post began with "Poor baby, still licking your wounds, huh DandJ," So it was obviously directed at me, with the you and your reinforcing that. But Seduction wants to pretend those words weren't for me. More dishonesty.
I understand that Seduction wishes that comment hurt me deeply, (gushing tears); instead it hightlights Seduction's hostility, meaness, and dishonesty in not taking responsibility for what Seduction posts.
That's pretty reasonable Jack.
The key point is being educated and honest.
I feel like I'm at a tennis match, lol. This is not in support of barebacking, nor is it against, but I do believe people have the right to make their own choices, hopefully educated choices, about the risks involved. The risks are greater for STIs than for HIV, which is what more people are worried about, mostly because there are more STIs out there than HIV.
Look you can make stats support just about anything, and the truth is bareback sex with unknown untested partners is risky, and in the 11 years now (my math is fucked up, I thought it was ten, loll) that we've been in the Lifestyle we have seen far more people at clubs and parties go bareback than not. While we don't make a habit out of it, we do it ocassionally too, and at a guess I'd say that most people in the lifestyle have at least done it a few times, in the heat of the moment. However, we do get tested a couple of times a year, because we don't want to be spreading anything to anyone. We haven't even caught a cold yet, well, from sex anyway, lol. We do use condoms (non latex) most of the time and we do stay pretty much on top of our health.
Here's where we stand on this. People who use condoms have that right and should not be bashed for it nor should they be "convinced into going bareback. Folks who go bareback should know the risks they take, be educated about those risks, let folks they will be playing with know, and let their partners make their own choices, and get tested regularly. Bottom line, no one can control anyone else's choices.
Just my two cents, for what it's worth.
Patogether, the math is that out of ten times with condoms on, statistically one will be bareback. Bareback is bareback. Ten condom uses = one bareback. Doesn't matter who barebacks or with whom.
Perfect's claim is that condom users are less risky than barebackers, so that one bareback with regular condom users is safer than a bareback with barebackers. That assumes that those condom users always fuck condom users. You don't know that. That assumes all condom users are upfront and honest about their condom use. You don't know that. And where are the studies or stats to back up this claim? Claims of want rather than reason.
It really is funny that Seduction once again pronounced me dangerous just after Deseos wrote again to say no one has condemed me. Dangerous is a little bit of a condemnation. "Lifeless worm." is another. Sue is yet another especially combined with "I will do all I can to make sure you pay for that." These aren't terms of endearment!
There is a real control issue here. Several of you make such a issue of whether I answer your questions and whether I disclose. You often don't answer my questions, why in hell should I answer yours??? I'm sorry if you're so thck and egotisical that you think you will control me.
This is the point: control. You condemn me and other barebackers and say you don't. There is a huge issue that I tell you how and when I disclose. It's not your business. Trying to force me to dance to your tune is about as palatable to me as someone forcing you to bareback would be to you.
I also makes searching a tad bit easier.
It is no different to listing your sexual preferences.
It makes it easier to weed out what you are looking for and not looking for.
I dont know why anyone would NOT put their sexual preference for condoms or not in their profiles. It would stop those that would not be interested in them due to their preference and not waste the time of them or the ones emailing. Maybe that is it ...maybe if they did put it in the profile they would not get much mail... I would think it would make it easier for those that like to bareback to find them.
We always let people know that we would rather fuck bareback,Some are fine with it some aint, No big deal,We are playing plenty enough to be in the life..
And before yall ask,,Yes we have fucked a couple who knew we bareback,But they were fine with fucking us with the use of protection, I t was very nice and all went well....
M.
Its pee
The funniest and most dishonest line in this thread has to go to Seduction: "none of us condemned him for his barebacking practices"
That is a howler!
Seduction, do you really not know the meaning of the word condemned?
Deseos, you've assumed, no you've declared that I don't disclose because I don't have it in my profile. You and others have repeatedly made statements about what I do and don't do without any way to know what I do and don't do. That is an attempt to put YOUR words and deeds into my mouth. You're dishonest, you're lying, you're making up what I do or don't do to fit your preconceived notions and hysteria.
You, Seduction, Perfect, and others actually post as if I would fuck someone bareback who didn't want to! Why do you lie about what you don't know?
DandJ if you read the whole post I made you will understand it was not a threat. Thank you for your comments it has been interesting.
"Are you a barebacker?" to anyone you're interested in. Ask in the very first email. Is such a question too rude for you? When you want information ask for it! "
We did talk about it, and we all said we use condoms. Now they want to try to change that, because they think we have known each other long enough. Just because we met them a year ago, does not mean we really know them well. If someone barebacks, and we don't know, that is what the condoms are for. I know a few vanilla people who got herpes because they did not use protection when they hooked up with carriers that had no symptoms.
"DandJ...Fact is, Sed. and many of us are wondering why you keep passing the buck. Not to mention, you still have not accepted responsibility for not disclosing your barebacking practices within your profile. Also, if you feel so strongly about this, why do you not disclose this in your profile for potential playmates to read? "
Because he's SMARTER than the rest. He can convince them after meeting how SAFE barebacking is.
Or he's delusional and worried that many will see it.
I never asked the text to be red sheesh...
Disclosure in a profile is easy. But it's not what riles the hysterical here. What bothers them is barebacking pure and simple. Seduction offered a rare glimpse of her heart when she incanted that my cock be a lifeless worm. Is that what she truly desires, that my cock be lifeless, that I be a worm?
It is very simple to take responsibility for your own health and ask, "Are you a barebacker?" to anyone you're interested in. Ask in the very first email. Is such a question too rude for you? When you want information ask for it!
Using condoms is a wise practice. Each one of you can make sure condoms are used every time you play. That's your responsibility to yourself. But that is not the point of hysteria here. Our hysterical witch hunters want to stamp out barebacking. What if they unknowingly fuck a barebacker even with condoms on??? Their belief in condoms doesn't outweigh their hatred and fear of barebacking. They curse our cocks with incantations of "lifeless worm."
If this had been a rational discussion, if hysteria had been resisted, if these and many other incantations had not been flung: lifeless worms! ignorant! dangerous! dishonest! desperate! inconsiderate! and sue!, perhaps the simple request to mention barebacking in a profile would have been considered in a spirit of reason. Trouble is, the demand that we put the red letter of barebacking in our profile inspires consideration in the spirit of the demand. That spirit is fuck you. Perhaps I and other barebackers may be able to overcome their attitude and actually consider such a request in the light of reason, but the fuck you of witch hunters makes that so difficult.
We have seen that couple and played only twice this year. We have talked online, and when we met, but we play occasionally when we have time. I am not sure who the other couple played with this past year, and also, I am on birth control, but condoms are also a back up to that. I think the woman may have had a hysterectomy, and she is safe from pregnancy. D and I enjoy swinging, when we get the chance, but we want to be saf-er. We know condoms are not foolproof. It seems there are two lines of thought on here: the ones that want to be saf-er, and the ones who figure bareback is fine. I don't condemn those who bareback, but I'd like to be in charge of my decision on how safe I want to be.
LMMFAO@ SOME,,,NOT ALL
Ill almost bet we fuck more then yall do lmao"
I do not know sweets, we are exactly the same with y'all. I fuck those to whom I am attracted. And I am not attracted to many.
Well I am sure most anyone that posts here fucks more than we do, but hey its quality not quantity :)
All I can respond to is ewwww lol
( kidding)
Thats your choice what you do, not mine, or anyone else.
I never argue I just like post bantering .
Yes, family is always first :)
She honestly you are a fine lady, I dont wana argue We actualy play very little and we play with people we been knowing many years.. Right now our kids are our life, Fuking others is no way first in line....But dont get us wrong when we do get the time,which we do sometimes,,,we call some friends< dont even mention rubbers,,,and we do fuck bareback WOOOHOOO,all
M... HOLLA!!!!
Lol
Fuck away man , fuck away
