Weaponization for vengeance

@tbr..yet another you tube genius came up with that theory..for the weak minded

@DTH

I know nothing about landfills other than that it is an eyesore, never ending and produces bad gases. There, I just explained the level of my depth of understanding.

The landfill that I was talking about with Wayne started when I was a kid. Wayne will get a chuckle out of this . . . Hey Wayne, I went to Coral Springs High School :) That high school was on the same road of the landfill, but about 4 miles dead west of the landfill. I watched it grow and grow and grow. It became a weird issue of because who owned it: Wayne Huizenga. People know him as the person that owned Blockbuster. That is true, but he got the money to do that because he owned Waste Management. Then ultimately, he created CarMax.

So we got to see this landfill grow and grow and grow and SERIOUSLY GROW. When the average height is 6' above sea level when you see something that is over 200' tall it stands out. The only places that you see 20 story buildings is downtown or by the ocean.

I have no idea what mining is. As you have been trained, could you explain it. From what little I understand, this finally hit capacity and there was no more room inside for those dump trucks that look like little ants when you see them on the hill go in. I remember there being concern of leaks. That would make some sense because if you go down 10' in the ground, you are in water. And considering that is the fresh water source for South Florida, that is not good.

EA - some additional Info on Landfills

Several years ago the Town of East Hampton on Long Island had a choice as to what to do with their once approved NYSDEC landfill that years later the NYDEC determined it must be closed. There were public meetings as to either cap or mine the landfill . The push by the NYDEC IMHO was to cap the landfill; a choice I was against as I knew the end result would be far more costly and the land would not be usable.

When I lived in CA, I had taken numerous classes on Hazardous Waste Management and one of those classes dealt with capping or mining of landfills. The consensus was largely agreed that mining, though more costly up front, was the preferred method of choice. Their rational, which I agreed with, was that it was ultimately cheaper over the long period of time and the end product was reusable , reclaimed land!

As an East Hampton resident, I attended those early meetings as to cap or mine the landfill. I spoke out against a capping and the need to mine the landfill.(capping is in a sense babysitting a encapsulated landfill and monitoring the gases etc) Governments though, will always choose the cheap way out, as they did in East Hampton.

Fast forward and many years later, the landfill is still there, encapsulated and a blight (a hill that is arguably on of the highest points in the area) . The issue they now face is a plum from underneath the closed encapsulated landfill that is moving towards Long Island’s sole source aquifer.

I say this because governments need to take an honest assessment and look at negative impacts of their decisions before making costly environmental decisions.

Both methods sounded great, but had the Town looked at its negative impact (long term costs to monitor and maintain a capped landfill versus mining) the end cost would have been significantly cheaper to mine the damn thing to begin with.

It sickens me to see these closed landfills that are capped and nothing more than ticking time bombs. Mining, the cost, the dealing with the unknowns, and mitigating their hazards is a timely and costly adventure. The end result is an environmentally responsible approach to restoring the land to usable space!

That is from your post boo boo…

"According to what you say, right now as I type this, there should be some organic matter that is 300 million years old that just became coal/natural gas."

The stupidity. It burns...

"I just related that most of your posts “I” see are racially proportionate to your racisim"

Your lying eyes need stronger glasses. How can you see racism or admit it exists? You can't even spell it.

We remember your first post ever directed at me. Inflammatory and racist as fuck. You showed who you were in that first post.

My last 100 posts can easily be searched. You, are a liar

“Not to mention that the technology to harvest wind and solar uses metals and plastics and other materials that are finite.”

We sue the same metals and plastics and other materials to harvest coal and oil. That is a wash. And again when the oil and coal is burned. Never to be used again. Done. Forever gone.

Sure more may become available but are we to wait for it? How much is there in the potential pipeline in 500 years?

“My position is that no form of energy is any more renewable than any other form. You realize that gas and coal are still being formed today. They form slowly and maybe we use them faster than they form, but they are still being formed, so they are just as renewable as solar and wind. ”

You’re doubling down on ignorance.

Once that gallon of gas or pond of coal is burned. It is gone forever. Gone. Never to be used again. Never to be seen again. Never to produce an ounce of energy again.

The sun and wind keep giving. We harvest energy from the sun and wind. Guess what? The same amount is still there. We don’t have to replace that.

I stand by my statement. You and educated guesses are not used together.

@wayne

"But is it not a continuous process? According to what you say, right now as I type this, there should be some organic matter that is 300 million years old that just became coal/natural gas. and that process should be happening continuously."

We consume more than is created. It is not sustainable. It is also the most expensive.

In regards to reducing the population. How very Moonraker of you. So you are pro abortion?

There are economic reasons why going below replacement is a bad idea.

I think you are missing a BIG PICTURE.

Congratulations, you and I live in the country with the 3rd largest population. You basically have to 4x our population to get to number 2, and then again for number 1. If you take the top 3 populations of countries we are ~3/8 of the worlds population. If you want to treat the EU as a 'country' then the EU is larger than the US and we slide to #4. Now take the top 4 and you have close to half the worlds population. Now let's look at the US. As it sits, we are 5% of the worlds population, but account for 20% of the consumption of a LOT of things. Who has the problem? Is it the rest of the world or us?

where are these new peat bogs? 300 million years ago the planet was different...more things at play than some austrailian guy you are trying to quote.

Question: Why did so much of the world’s coal form during the geologic period we now call the Carboniferous?

Answer: Large tree-like plants evolved before fungi evolved the ability to break down the fibrous lignin that helped give the plants structure. With nothing to make them decay, their remains were free to pile up and yield thick coal deposits.

the plastics in most of our drink/food is probably slowly killing us. Been getting away from plastic bottles lately, I drink probably 6-7 a day, mostly bottled water. The new house is gonna get a filter system and I'll be using glass or maybe a stainless lined insulated tumbler thing.

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Because coal takes millions of years to develop and there is a limited amount of it, it is a nonrenewable resource."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:tahoma,verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:14px">But is it not a continuous process? According to what you say, right now as I type this, there should be some organic matter that is 300 million years old that just became coal/natural gas. and that process should be happening continuously. </span></p>

How long does it take for oil and natural gas to form?
Deep in the Earth, oil and natural gas are formed from organic matter from dead plants and animals. These hydrocarbons take millions of years to form under very specific pressure and temperature conditions.

Because coal takes millions of years to develop and there is a limited amount of it, it is a nonrenewable resource. The conditions that would eventually create coal began to develop about 300 million years ago, during the Carboniferous period..so yes todays peat bogs that become future coal will take 300 million years..not so renewable

<p>eroticamazon,</p>

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Ever drive down to South Florida? Ever drive on the Turnpike and just near Sample Road on the East side notice the highest point in all of South Florida?"</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Yes, the SLS main office used to be on Sample Road. Once again, I agree with you. I just don't agree on the solution. The only way to solve this problem is to reduce the population of humans. How do we do that humanly? Educate people to have less children. Change governments so they don't give incentives to having children.</span></p>

<p><a href="https://www.swinglifestyle.com/profile/lookup.cfm?usercode=58309729">Onehelluvaguy</a>,</p>

<p>What did I say that is wrong? "Renewable energy" is a catch phrase. My position is that no form of energy is any more renewable than any other form. You realize that gas and coal are still being formed today. They form slowly and maybe we use them faster than they form, but they are still being formed, so they are just as renewable as solar and wind. If we converted completely to wind and solar, whose to say we wont create new problems from using too much of that form of energy? Not to mention that the technology to harvest wind and solar uses metals and plastics and other materials that are finite.</p>

@Wayne

Sorry forgot to add this . . .

Ever drive down to South Florida? Ever drive on the Turnpike and just near Sample Road on the East side notice the highest point in all of South Florida? That is the landfill. As it has been a while, I just looked it up. FUCK ME, they call it Monarch HILL. A FRIGGIN HILL in south florida! ROFL. I also learned that it is FULL and non operational.

So yes . . .

Diapers need to go. Plastic bottles need to go. We need the right to repair so that shit is not disposable. It goes on and on.

@8..

Can’t admit when you are wrong ever.. ever.. you just go to dick comments etc. I never said anything about any particular thread. I just related that most of your posts “I” see are racially proportionate to your racisim..

@Wayne

The issue why we can't is our own greed. The reason why a gallon of milk has been a plastic jug is because of the weight. IIRC a gallon of milk is around 9 pounds. To go to glass would add a lot more weight. I remember when seeing a 32 ounce bottle of Pepsi was like, OHHHH the BIG bottle. Now, fuck, I have seen 3 liter bottles of soda. And we wonder why America has gotten fatter!

It is about packaging. It is about vending.

It is a shame.

FYI...One patch in particular, known as the “Great Pacific Garbage Patch” covers 20 million square kilometers of water. That's bigger than the combined area of the United States' five largest states! By 2050 there will be more plastic in the oceans than there are fish (by weight

“I'd take an educated guess…”

After your response to renewable energy yesterday. I would say you and an educated guess are about impossible.

Wayne..Totally agree..there should be a moratorium on new plastic products unless evidence is provided the ocans are being harvested for plastic..dumps could follow. Very good results using recycled plastics in the road repair mix...If we have the will to not politicize this it can work..little or no impact on consumer inflation

5looking,

That post is nowhere in this topic. Keep reaching.

<p>eroticamazon,</p>

<p>"<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I'd get rid of single use plastic bottles. Want to go back in time when America was CLEANER :) go back to when there was no plastic bottles. The only plastic for drinks in the grocery store was gallon jugs. Soda came in 32 ounce glass bottles! You paid a deposit on the bottle. It forced reuse."</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I actually agree with you on that. I remember my parents having a big bin in the garage that they put glass bottles in. Every so often my dad would take them back for the deposit. Also, sodas taste better in glass than in plastic (in my opinion).</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">In the mid 90's I was in the grocery store and a little kid took a glass bottle off the shelf. His father quickly grabbed it out of his hand and said something like, "That bottle is glass. It can hurt you!"</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">Then the father told him: "One day there will be no more glass bottles. Everything will be in plastic bottles and the world will be a safer, wonderful place to live!"</span></p>

<p><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:open sans,sans-serif; font-size:14px">I'd take an educated guess that the same people saying stuff like that back then are the ones wanting to ban plastic today.</span></p>

@8..

Here you go Boo… one of many..

“That's the new trend to mask racism... Another way to dehumanize non-White ppl. There's hundreds of women in college and the WNBA whom are tall/big. But look who he singles out?”